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<bsm117532>
I need to find a job where attending crypto conferences is part of my duties.
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<kanzure>
always be citing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14908011 (apparently some people have been failing to cite arxiv papers-- the bitcoin research community has a similar problem, although the situation has been improving.)
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<kanzure>
for pseudonym value what about proof-of-work based on the resulting public key.
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<cluelessperson>
So I lack the programming skill for now, to do much for the bitcoin protocol itself, not even able to make a wallet yet.
<cluelessperson>
How can I apply my devops skills towards helping you guys out?
<waxwing>
cluelessperson: you could try #bitcoin-dev , Q is better for there I think.
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<JackH>
if a softfork locks in, and the chain gets a re-org to prior to the softfork lock in, and mines it longer without the lock in, how would nodes behave to the longest chain in this case? would they invalidate the blocks or keep following the longest chain?
<sipa>
consensus rules are per chain
<sipa>
if the new chain is valid according to the rule, it is valid
<sipa>
if the new chain is invalid according to the rule, it is invalid
<sipa>
this has nothing to do with whatever other chain the node may earlier have been on
<JackH>
makes sense
<gmaxwell>
what sipa said is correct but incomplete.
<JackH>
what is missing?
<gmaxwell>
in bitcoin, after softforks are long burried we go back and remove the activation logic.
<gmaxwell>
So the rules apply to all the history, if possible, or all the history with a few explicit exceptions, if not possible to apply to all, or past a static height, if there are not just a few exceptions.
<gmaxwell>
This simplifies the code.
<JackH>
so you hardcode in the rules in future clients?
<gmaxwell>
yes, like they were there all along; to avoid growing a bunch of scabs with conditional activation logic.
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<stevenroose>
I know this should be on #bitcoin, but it's too crowded: Has anybody seen a block not signalling segwit being orphaned since BIP91 activated? I mean to verify that BIP91 is actually being enforced.