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<zenspider> ugh. google groups is such a pita
<zenspider> WHYYYYY can't google figure out how to merge accounts? is it really THAT hard?
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<MouseTheLuckyDog> I see something strange when I try: a=/e/; puts a
<MouseTheLuckyDog> (?-mix:e)
<MouseTheLuckyDog> What exactly does that mean?
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<threedaymonk> MouseTheLuckyDog: it tells you the options in the regexp
<threedaymonk> try /e/i, /e/m etc. and you'll see
<threedaymonk> this means that you can interpolate one regular expression into another without changing the semantics
<MouseTheLuckyDog> threedaymonk, thanks.
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<erikh> you can also switch it up as you need; that's the literal syntax for it
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<roadt> hey, does std lib has some better zip method, that when access result, it will defer all emulation to its arguments (which is enumerable)?
<roadt> s/emulation/enumeration/
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<rickhull> erikh: pm me plox, having IRC issues
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<UziMonkey> named regexp groups are awesome... why didn't I find this feature earlier?
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<rickhull> i'm on a mission to evangelize extended mode regex e.g. /regex/x
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<UziMonkey> yes, I do that as well
<rickhull> whitespace is ignored, requiring explicit \s (\t, \n), so you can inject comments willy-nilly
<UziMonkey> you can even write complete almost-parsers. http://pastebin.com/XeaQchWC
<rickhull> great, parsing with regex
<UziMonkey> that's overboard, but I was just playing :P
<rickhull> ;)
<rickhull> btw, massive constructed regex, is it really a win?
<rickhull> as opposed to setting up a more conventional structure of individual regex, with individual tests?
<rickhull> the problem being, when a massive regex fails to match, you have no idea why
<UziMonkey> yeah, that's true
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<whitequark> 21>> begin 1end
<whitequark> 20>> begin 1end
<whitequark> eval-in_: hey
<whitequark> :/
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<whitequark> charliesome: hi
<whitequark> your bot broke
<charliesome> fark
<whitequark> dbussink: the memory corrution bug in rbx which parser triggers is still there in latest nightlies: https://travis-ci.org/whitequark/parser/jobs/10830557
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<whitequark> charliesome: maybe make a watchdog for it
<charliesome> maybe
<whitequark> I have a script in cron which restarts irclogger if there's no input for 5 minutes
<charliesome> it's weird though
<charliesome> the process was still running
<dbussink> whitequark: does it happen sporadically? biggest problem is that i've only ever seen it happen on travis :(
<dbussink> never locally with anything
<charliesome> maybe the connection just died
<whitequark> dbussink: yeah, exactly: random failures
<dbussink> whitequark: we also sporadically have it in the rbx CI process
<whitequark> I've seen this on travis VMs
<charliesome> i guess i could just have another thread in the bot process
<dbussink> but i ran a linux vm running specs all night and no failures :9
<dbussink> :(
<whitequark> dbussink: what I did was to download the vbox images of travis and build stuff there
<whitequark> of course it reproduced
<whitequark> (it wasn't rbx, completely another thingy)
<dbussink> whitequark: where did you get those images?
<whitequark> dbussink: travis website
<whitequark> one sec
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<whitequark> hmm, I think what I did used to have less hassle
<dbussink> i know they don't use vbox anymore
<dbussink> so yeah, it was a big hassle
<dbussink> i tried with a vagrant ubuntu image with the same distro they run
<dbussink> whitequark: problem is they moved away from vbox
<whitequark> oh I see
<dbussink> so the whole process is now different
<whitequark> maybe ask them?
<dbussink> whitequark: i also let parser run for like 8 hours in a build loop in that linux vm locally
<dbussink> i did
<dbussink> it was probably so cumbersome i didn't bother :p
<whitequark> I see
<whitequark> that's sad :/
<dbussink> yeah
<dbussink> also ran parser under valgrind in rbx
<dbussink> no problem either there
<whitequark> the whole process, complete with `rake generate' and its racc forks?
<whitequark> judging by the output, it's racc which is failing
<dbussink> yeah
<whitequark> I see
<whitequark> that's really confusing
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<dbussink> i can try it again, but i have little hope for finding something without having something different that could be a cause
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<whitequark> yeah, that's probably not worth it
<whitequark> thanks anyway!
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<dbussink> whitequark: if i ever find something that could be the cause, i'll let you know :)
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<dbussink> i've seen this malloc() error in ci builds sporadically as well
<dbussink> but also no repro for that one :(
<dbussink> whitequark: also run stuff with vagrant from time to time to see if that finds anything as a safety net, but that doesn't catch anything either
<dbussink> and it's too slow to always let it run
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<whitequark> is whatever mode rbx runs in when it runs racc multithreaded?
<dbussink> well, all this stuff is single threaded afaik
<whitequark> well I mean, you may have some success compiling rbx with tsan/asan/msan/dfsan
<whitequark> and see if they catch anything
<dbussink> i've done that yeah
<dbussink> asan was fine
<charliesome> whitequark: got time for a bison question?
<whitequark> charliesome: shoot
<dbussink> tsan problematic because of a huge number of false positives
<charliesome> whitequark: so i'm adding frozen strings to ruby, with syntax like "foo"f
<dbussink> stuff is seen as races that are perfectly fine
<charliesome> whitequark: currently string is defined as: tSTRING_BEG string_contents tSTRING_END
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<whitequark> charliesome: you'd need a lexer patch on the closing quote... something about strterm
<dbussink> as in, the race is not a problem in that specific context in rbx
<charliesome> whitequark: i have
<whitequark> then you'd have to emit a set of suffixes as a separate token
<whitequark> look at tREGEXP_OPT
<whitequark> make tSTRING_OPT perhaps
<charliesome> i made it tSTRING_OPTEND
<charliesome> its yylval num is a bitset of the options
<charliesome> anyway
<charliesome> whitequark: where string_contents is: string_content string_contents | string_content
<charliesome> so basically
<charliesome> i want to do
<charliesome> tSTRING_BEG string_content tSTRING_OPTEND
<charliesome> except: parse.tmp.y: conflicts: 3 shift/reduce
<whitequark> hrmpf
<charliesome> i don't see why that should conflict
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<whitequark> look at the conflicts file it emits
<whitequark> I'm not psychic
<charliesome> oh?
<charliesome> conflict file?
<whitequark> well, it explains conflicts, in its own shitty way
<whitequark> --report=something
<whitequark> it'll describe the automaton in that something. grep it for "conflict"
<whitequark> it takes a while to understand when you find what it doesn't like, but there is some ambiguous input
<whitequark> perhaps gist it and I'll look at it too
<whitequark> also I'm implementing number suffixes in parser right now
<whitequark> it's horrible
<charliesome> lol
<charliesome> have fun implementing string suffixes
<whitequark> as I understand it
<whitequark> if it encounters an impossible sequence of suffixes, it just decides that suffixes stop there
<whitequark> so for something like "10irescue"
<whitequark> it would be "10i rescoe"
<charliesome> haha excellent
<whitequark> what the fuck
<charliesome> regex options will consume every [a-z] char
<whitequark> yes
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<charliesome> so will my string options
<charliesome> also perhaps open a bug?
<charliesome> get that fixed before 2.1
<dbussink> ruby parsing, because it's not crazy enough yet
<charliesome> matz said that string suffixes should not work with adjacent string concatenation
<charliesome> so "hello"f "world" should be a syntax error
<whitequark> dbussink: don't say.
<whitequark> charliesome: yes seen that.
<charliesome> which is fun for me
<whitequark> 21>> "10irescue"
<charliesome> my job would be a lot easier if i could just bung the option bitset on tSTRING_END and be done with it
<whitequark> argh
<charliesome> no trunk yet
<charliesome> i should get trunk going with a cronjob
<whitequark> charliesome: can you check that suffix thing for me and open a bug if it's indeed so? pretty please
<whitequark> I'm sort of burned out on ruby and you seem to have the committer dance going
<charliesome> irb(main):001:0> 2irescue nil
<charliesome> SyntaxError: (irb):1: syntax error, unexpected tIDENTIFIER, expecting end-of-input
<whitequark> oh, so it separates it as "2 irescue"
<charliesome> yep
<charliesome> :\
<charliesome> should i open a bug?
<whitequark> I think you should, and let's suggest that all such behavior should be fixed
<whitequark> such as, "1end" should be a syntax error
<whitequark> just as it would be for "/1/end"
<whitequark> it's very confusing otherwise
<charliesome> true
<whitequark> and I just implemented that in parser. oh well. I'll postpone the rest until 2.1 freeze, lest I'd do a lot of unnecessary work
<charliesome> true
<charliesome> hmmm can't figure out how to get the conflict file
<charliesome> have you done it for ruby before?
<whitequark> do you have the bison invocation handy?
<whitequark> make should print it, etc
<whitequark> so just copy it and add --report=bison.rep and invoke
<charliesome> ah figured it out
<whitequark> now gist it :]
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<charliesome> wait no
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<charliesome> cool maybe i got it
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<dbussink> whitequark: might have found something that could explain the problem :)
<whitequark> dbussink: oh?
<dbussink> whitequark: was lucky enough to have caught a crash in our CI run in a vagrant vm on linux
<dbussink> after letting it run for a while :)
<whitequark> oh, awesome
<dbussink> after that i've been able to construct a reasoning why it might be caused :P
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<yorickpeterse> herro
<yorickpeterse> I think I was supposed to write code today
<yorickpeterse> at least that's what my calendar says
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<bougyman> hah
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<ReinH> drbrain: duuuuude
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<erikh> duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude
<erikh> where's my combinator
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<ReinH> erikh: hah, which combinator do you want?
<erikh> it was a movie reference
<ReinH> I know
<ReinH> I just like combinators
<yorickpeterse> you mean Y combinators?
<ReinH> yorickpeterse: there are plenty of combinators
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<yorickpeterse> yay, writing changelogs
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<asahi> wondering if someone can help me with a little xpath. I'm trying to find the anchor with text "foo" inside a .bar block
<asahi> right now I have pages.search('.bar').search('//a[text()='foo']') but I'm getting a syntax error
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<asahi> nevermind, figured out that i wasn't escaping those apostraphes
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