apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p247: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p448) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<andrewvos> +1
<andrewvos> why the hell not
<andrewvos> not sure it is such a huge breakage
<andrewvos> though I cann picture some people having test setup or something like that in tests
<andrewvos> and disabling random
<andrewvos> but they deserve to be punished
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<andrewvos> more importantly though, if I forget to write an assertion I would LOVE the reminder
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<JoelMcCracken> hmm; what is the difference between #ruby-lang and #ruby?
<andrewvos> even better, maybe run the assertion and no other code, inside the test and fail it if the assertion succeeds
<andrewvos> zenspider:
<andrewvos> - ,
<JoelMcCracken> anyway, i'm looking to write a really simple repl-like server
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<andrewvos> JoelMcCracken: better_errors or pry might be what you want
<JoelMcCracken> are there any good places that I should start looking, besides threads and sockets
<JoelMcCracken> good idea
<JoelMcCracken> i'm not trying to debug, but that might be what i want indeed
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<andrewvos> JoelMcCracken: pry + pry-remote is what you need
<andrewvos> JoelMcCracken: not sure of the spelling of the latter
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<JoelMcCracken> sweet!
<JoelMcCracken> yeah looks perfect <3
<andrewvos> JoelMcCracken: Is your fathers name Phil by any chance?
<JoelMcCracken> nope
<JoelMcCracken> always good to check tho =)
<andrewvos> Sorry that was a terrible joke
<andrewvos> I'll get my coat
<JoelMcCracken> oh wait
<JoelMcCracken> lollll i get it now
<andrewvos> Yeah it's bad sorry
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<zenspider> andrewvos: <andrewvos> even better, maybe run the assertion and no other code, inside the test and fail it if the assertion succeeds
<zenspider> I don't understand that one
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<andrewvos> zenspider: If the assertions are successful without any other code being executed then surely they're reporting false positives?
<andrewvos> zenspider: Probably a bit crazy
<zenspider> I think we're talking about different things?
<zenspider> I want `def test_something; end` to fail w/ a "no assertion" error
<andrewvos> zenspider: Yeah that last sentence had nothing to do with your previous question. Just a thought.
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<andrewvos> zenspider: Yeah I agree with that
<andrewvos> Tests that aren't testing anything should fail
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<hagabaka> is there an easy way to let inspect skip a certain instance variable for a class and *all its subclasses*?
<andrewvos> What I meant with the other thing was `def test_something; @a = "hello"; assert @a, "hello"; end` should fail if `@a = "hello"` doesn't get executed and the tests still passes.
<andrewvos> Though probably not very practical
<hagabaka> oh
<andrewvos> hagabaka: Guess you could just override to_s
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<rhizome> hi all. just a brain-fart: i'm getting unknown method for Time.parse in irb. expected?
<apeiros> yes
<apeiros> require 'time'
<apeiros> also, use pry instead of irb :-p
<rhizome> sure sure, was just spitballin'. thanks :)
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<maloik> I never really use pry to its full capabilities :-(
<maloik> s/to its...//
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/8804
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<deggis> hi. ruby-prof specific question (feeling lucky): any ideas on what could cause stack html thread to show empty while call graph (2.8M) html shows much going on in that same thread? using 0.13 gem
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<kith> somehow i feel this is so ugly... :( return @dbh.execute sql, ip, ip, ip, ip, ip, ip, ip, ip
<yorickpeterse> return @dbh.execute(sql, [ip] * 8)
<yorickpeterse> >> [10] * 5
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => [10, 10, 10, 10, 10] (https://eval.in/43960)
<kith> hmm
<kith> interesting :D
<deggis> answer to myself: it seems that using RubyProf.start/RubyProf.stop there is no root method, with no caller info, leaving the thread block empty as ruby-prof's stackprinter can't start from anywhere printing
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<kith> yorickpeterse: thx, will try that
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<apeiros> yorickpeterse: misses a splat
<apeiros> @ kith ^
<kith> splat?
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<apeiros> @dbh.execute(sql, *([ip] * 8))
<apeiros> this is passing 9 args. what yorickpeterse pasted passes 2 args (sql and an array of 8 ips)
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<kith> apeiros: thx
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<RantriX> hello
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<yorickpeterse> apeiros: well yeah depends on the API whether that would work or not
<apeiros> yorickpeterse: sticking to his example
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<yorickpeterse> I fail to see how this is related to Eden hotel Amsterdam
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<yorickpeterse> "First there was youth, then the employment phase, now I am entering the third part of my life--retirement. I am an adventurer, an artist, a contemplator, a lover of God, and family."
<yorickpeterse> Oh jesus
<yorickpeterse> (haha!)
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<yorickpeterse> Some APIs are just weird I guess
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<zzak> hi
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<ljarvis> hi
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<yorickpeterse> "Do I need to do X or Y?" "Yes"
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<banisterfiend> Either do it or do not do it, you will regret both
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<matti> Hi zzak
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<futile> <offtopic> do any of you use a Mac and want to beta test a minimalist music player? if so, PM me. </offtopic>
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<yorickpeterse> whatever nerd thought it was a good idea to put PID files in a log directory needs to step on a lego
* yorickpeterse looks at daemons-rails
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<Dernise> Can someone explain me why I don't get the message ? https://gist.github.com/dernise/a5d4d202969a726cb1e1 I sent Hello World, the length and the packetid, and all I get is the length and the packet id.. Is that normal?
<Dernise> It is blocking line 16
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<Dernise> Found myself the problem, header = child_socket.read(8).unpack('LL') read everything so there's nothing left in the stream. Now I have to find how can I fix this
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<drbrain> Dernise: why :DGRAM instead of :STREAM?
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<drbrain> Dernise: switching it to :STREAM seems to fix it
<drbrain> I think, for datagrams, read reads the whole datagram so you get stuck waiting on a second datagram (that was never sent)
<drbrain> anyhow, bus time
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<Dernise> drbrain: you fixed my problem. It's crazy to think that I search the answer on google since almost 3 hours now and it was just? 3 letters. thanks!
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<Dernise> 4 letters*
<Dernise> Wooow. I dunno how to count. Should go to bed..
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<yorickpeterse> Is there a way in Rake to create a file task but re-run it when the contents have changed (but the file already exists)?
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<yorickpeterse> as in, when you define a file task it will not run at all if the target file exists, even if the source file has changed in the meantime
<ljarvis> yes just add the code to do that
<ljarvis> (my fav answer)
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<ljarvis> but no i dont think so
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<yorickpeterse> "yeah here's a 500 line one-liner"
<yorickpeterse> hmpf
<ljarvis> :D
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<yorickpeterse> that reminds me of this awesome make oneliner I once found, here
<yorickpeterse> fak, didn't bookmark it
<ljarvis> the best one liners are the ones littered with line delimiter
<ljarvis> s
<yorickpeterse> ah found it
<yorickpeterse> who needs rake -T when you can do that
<ljarvis> :D
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<yorickpeterse> http://downloads.yorickpeterse.com/images/screenshot_200813_23%3a05%3a38.png Go home github, your language detector is drunk!
<yorickpeterse> (it's Ruby, C and Ragel in a C host)
<yorickpeterse> I like the colours though
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<jkyle> I'm trying to make a rake task that takes arguments and has dependencies. tried: task :foo, :arg1 => :bar do |t, args| ..., this throws an error => undefined method `map' for :arg1:Symbol
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<canton7> jkyle, task :foo, :arg1, :needs => [:bar] do ... iirc
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<drbrain> canton7: yes, or task :foo, [:arg1, :arg2] => :bar do … end
<drbrain> (two styles)
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<jkyle> I got it working with, task :foo, [:arg1] => :bar
<jkyle> thanks!
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<drbrain> I'm adding documentation for this to `ri task` (because why isn't it there?)
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<erikh> \o/
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<RickHull1> sanity check: stacks are FIFO, and queues are LIFO, right?
<RickHull1> how come Queue#deq and #enq are aliases for push / pop?
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<RickHull1> sorry, stacks are LIFO, queues are FIFO
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<RickHull1> ah, pop is aliased as shift, ok
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<RickHull1> if it were up to me, i would not use push/pop nomenclature with Queues
<RickHull1> i.e. having pop and shift mean the same thing. WAT
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<RickHull1> it makes sense if push/pop mean "do the standard thing for this data structure", but in my experience, that nomenclature is almost exclusively reserved for stacks
<RickHull1> and the fact that Array#push and #pop do the stack behavior seems to confirm this
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<erikh> when you think of a stack
<erikh> think of a stack of dishes
<RickHull1> argh, i know how stacks work.
<erikh> when you think of a queue, remember it's a synonym for "line"
<erikh> oh, sorry
<RickHull1> i'm saying, push/pop implies stack
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<erikh> yes
<erikh> didn't mean ... eyah
<RickHull1> i'm grumbling that Queue#pop means #shift
<erikh> sorry dude, didn't mean to insult you.
<RickHull1> and that Queue#pop shouldn't exist
* RickHull1 shakes fist
<erikh> haha
<erikh> well, you could unshift/pop I guess
<erikh> "queues of a different colour"
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<RickHull1> i would reserve push/pop for stack/LIFO
<erikh> or "queues, the memory inefficient edition"
<RickHull1> and enq/deq for queue/FIFO
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<RickHull1> and shift/unshift are perlisms that could be dropped
<RickHull1> (are they? maybe C-isms?)
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<whitequark> perl
<erikh> they were in perl, but i'm pretty sure they come from before then
* erikh checks
<whitequark> i think they came from bash
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<whitequark> *shell
<whitequark> you could shift argument list to process more than 9 args with $1-$9
<erikh> nope, unshift is a perl bit
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<RickHull1> the only justification for Queue#pop that I can imagine is that push/pop mean "do the right thing for this structure"; but that justification is broken on Array
<erikh> shift comes from shell though
<whitequark> unshift maybe, but shift is from shell! :D
<drbrain> RickHull1: I thought it was a bit odd too, but I promptly ignored it
<erikh> and about 8 billion other languages
<RickHull1> drbrain: yeah, i'm over it now ;)
<drbrain> or wait, I promptly used it everywhere
<RickHull1> lol
<erikh> anyhow, we're running out of space, only 17T left
<erikh> bbl
<drbrain> I forget
<drbrain> I think I try to use enq/deq these days
<RickHull1> that's my intention. i went to look it up, to make sure it exists, and it says deq is an alias for pop, and I had a WTF moment
<RickHull1> and i had to rant, once i figured it out ;)
<drbrain> RickHull1: hrm, C++ has a queue::pop
<RickHull1> is it FIFO or LIFO? i would expect to pull from the end of the queue, not the start
<RickHull1> er, forget the first question. badly worded. the structure is FIFO all day.
<drbrain> it had better be
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