<pcfreak30>
Go to the web page and scroll to the blocks example. i am seeing 2 variables get put into a block but cant figure out how they are getting passed
<Nilium>
Which one are you calling the blocks example? 'Cause the first example there uses a block.
<rickhull>
i expect this test to pass rather than error
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<erikh>
oh, don't call .call
<rickhull>
oh, hm
<erikh>
I think .must_raise will do that for you
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<erikh>
I don't use minitest/spec though
<rickhull>
ah, ok. yah that sounds right
<erikh>
but that's how rspec works
<erikh>
and I typically use regular minitest
<erikh>
minitest FOR MEN
<rickhull>
spec is ph-balanced for a woman though
<erikh>
we're horrible people
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<rickhull>
nah, you're awesome
<rickhull>
tests pass!
<erikh>
yay
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<erikh>
hey, any remote chance you're up for a beer tonight?
<erikh>
'cause I'm bored and still in town.
<rickhull>
the chance is remote
<erikh>
heh fair enough
<rickhull>
was not on my agenda, i'll be getting out of here in an hour or so
<rickhull>
ping u when i do?
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<erikh>
yeah sure, I'm just chilling out
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<drbrain>
zzak: I did not know vline()
<zzak>
man curs_border
<zzak>
i dont think these are supported in curses from stdlib :(
<zzak>
some ffi curses does tho
<zzak>
would be cool to have them :+1:
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<drbrain>
should be easy to add
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<sdegutis>
think im better off just doing a bunch of rb_define_class/rb_define_method thats dynamically figured out at setup-time, instead of relying on method_missing
<gnufied>
I am still trying to think, how much different is there between Class.new() and class Foo
<erikh>
unfortunately probably a lot
<erikh>
man, so drunk
<erikh>
thank you android for correcting my spelling
<gnufied>
shouldn't drink. also someone called 911 for farting, so take care
<drbrain>
there are fewer checks for things from C
<drbrain>
rb_define_class allows lowercase names
<erikh>
i will try not to pass gaa
<drbrain>
but there is no way to create a lowercase constant from ruby
<drbrain>
or retrieve one
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<zzak>
Class::new uses rb_class_initialize, while "class Foo" uses rb_define_class
<zzak>
must sleep, おやすみなさい！
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<guns>
In ruby 1.9 I was able to monkey patch Integer's inspect method to display return values in different radixes; I can't make this work in 2.0: module_eval, instance_eval, and straight up eval fail
<guns>
Is this possible in 2.0?
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<drbrain>
guns: looks like you'll need to override Fixnum#inspect and Bignum#inspect
<guns>
drbrain: Okay, I will try. brb
<drbrain>
there were changes to how inspect works in 2.0
<drbrain>
in 1.9 inspect called to_s, this no longer happens
<guns>
drbrain: Okay, that works. I swore I tried it before, but it's clear I haven't
<guns>
thank you
<drbrain>
:D
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<hakunin>
what's a decent pattern for a compatibility layer if you are in ruby 1.9.3 (no prepend module)?
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<hakunin>
i ran into this a few times, but never quite found an elegant way to do this
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<hakunin>
you write a class that does the new thing, but you want some temporary logic to handle the old way, which is easily removable
<hakunin>
temporarily handle both
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<hakunin>
admittedly, maybe irc is not the best place for this type of thing
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<hakunin>
if you have class A and you include a module B, then A has to call out to be via super, but in this case you want it the other way around, where A has no idea about B…
<hakunin>
s/to be/to B/
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<hakunin>
but where B could dispatch various things to A as needed
<gnufied>
why would a module be aware of class in which it is included?
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<hakunin>
gnufied: it's a hypothetical way to put it, saw the beginning?
<gnufied>
I did and I am not quite sure what you are asking.
<hakunin>
gnufied: you never had that in code?
<hakunin>
gnufied: where you had to introduce a new format of some, say, database structure
<hakunin>
gnufied: and you wanted to support the old one at the same time
<gnufied>
hakunin: I want to hear something concrete.
<gnufied>
hakunin: you don
<gnufied>
replace database strucutre via module overrides anyways
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<hakunin>
(not replace, add to it, then remove old stuff later)
<hakunin>
so yes, replace, but not at once
<gnufied>
there are multiple ways.
<gnufied>
call super, use alias
<hakunin>
super is the other way around
<hakunin>
ok let's say you have a reader that returns a digest of a string. now you want a different digest, but if some condition is true - you want an old digest
<gnufied>
so, in my deriver class:
<gnufied>
class Foo; def digest; if str == "no"; super else <overridden digest>; end; end
<gnufied>
super will call old digest
<gnufied>
derived*
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<hakunin>
so you are saying that i should leave the old code and put an "update" layer on top of it
<hakunin>
i was thinking the opposite of that
<hakunin>
i want to get rid of old code
<hakunin>
but add a compatibility layer with it on top of new code
<hakunin>
maybe i shouldn't want that, i'm not claiming this is a good approach
<gnufied>
actually, you are being very vague
<gnufied>
some code example will help. a gist perhaps
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<hakunin>
gnufied: would love to hear your thoughts
<gnufied>
I am being thick here perhaps, but still do not see whats wrong with using super or how it is other way around? if you want to remove old code (and by remove you mean delete), then you will have to simply copy old code to new class, if you want to provide compatbility between both versions
<gnufied>
the way, I see it FooCompat looks good
<hakunin>
gnufied: no i think you're addressing it, it's not really that big of a deal
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<gnufied>
cool.
<hakunin>
gnufied: just a matter of elegance. i don't want to resort to alias method type of shenanigans
<gnufied>
sure, super is better agreed.
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<hakunin>
gnufied: and this way it's not just "remove an include, and you're done" - you still have to do some copying, swapping, etc
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<hakunin>
gnufied: but with prepend in ruby 2 this will be entirely elegant
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<gnufied>
thank man. but I will probably just complain on twitter for now
<gnufied>
:-)
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<yorickpeterse>
tis but a quiet day
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<Nilium>
The fun doesn't start 'til tomorrow.
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<apeiros>
indeed. tomorrow is a good day. national holiday in switzerland, as our country parties its birthday :D
<injekt>
\o/
<ddfreyne>
I don't even know what Belgium's national holiday is :(
<ddfreyne>
I think 21 because we got a new king
<yorickpeterse>
ddfreyne: doesn't matter, the only important thing for you now is oktoberfest
<Nilium>
I have no national holidays tomorrow, but I do have a festival with microbrew tasting, which is another way of saying $10 for a lot of beer
<injekt>
oktoberfest is on when I visit arrrrrrrrrrcamp \o/
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<yorickpeterse>
I like this part in my code where 504 and 257 (and a bunch of others) magically add up to 722
<injekt>
...
<yorickpeterse>
smells like a grouping bug
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<jds>
Hi there
<jds>
Does it sound plausible that if you have a long running ruby program that makes a Net::HTTP request to foo.com, and foo.com later update their DNS to point somewhere else, ruby still uses the old IP?
<jds>
I'm struggling to explain some behaviour I'm seeing, kind of grasping at straws...
<jds>
The TTL was set to 10 minutes, this is weeks later
<manveru>
entry in /etc/hosts ?
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<manveru>
afaik ruby just uses glibc for dns
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<jds>
Hmm, I'll take a look
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<maloik>
injekt: I can paste a bunch of links for hotels if you want
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<injekt>
maloik: that'd be great, could you message me them? trying to find somewhere fairly close to the conf
<maloik>
There's a fairly wide range of places to stay, some b&b's etc too
<maloik>
some closer than others, but in the end Ghent is small enough to get around easily and public transportation is quite good as well
<injekt>
yeah I checked out a few on gmaps but was a little overwhelmed (I'm also taking the gf, so I can't stay somewhere TOO cheap, which I usually wouldn't mind)
<injekt>
that's good to hear
<maloik>
if you don't find anything you like in there let me know and I'll try to get some more
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<injekt>
cheers :)
<maloik>
np :-) we really should publish a proper list of information on the site soon
<maloik>
but talks first :-)
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<ddfreyne>
Maybe i should go to Arrrrcamp next time. Visit my hometown :)
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<maloik>
we still have tickets ;-)
<ddfreyne>
I only attended the 2009 and 2010 editions when it was free
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<andrewvos>
don't pretend you don't love it
<yorickpeterse>
Well I would if my font would allow unicode rabbits/turtles
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<andrewvos>
yorickpeterse: Use OSX
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<yorickpeterse>
I'd rather eat a dick
<andrewvos>
Eat a dick
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<yorickpeterse>
not hungry
<andrewvos>
Be not hungry
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<onr>
hi
<onr>
well, wrong window.
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<tubbo>
emoji in the terminal is why os x is the bestest
<tubbo>
it's like how did this not get invented before right?
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<Pupeno>
Any ideas why when I say A::B::C Ruby would complaint about B::C not existing? I have two classes, one is A::B and the other is B. A::B::C exists (it's a string, a constant), B::C does not. But why is Ruby using the wrong class to find the constant?
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<injekt>
Pupeno: Ruby will check ::B::C if A::B::C doesn't exist, maybe something is ordered badly?
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<Cope>
I want to search through a bunch of named files, and if I find some stuff between "----" and "----" (inclusive), delete it - suggested approaches?
<yorickpeterse>
Putting aside that `Foo.alias` doesn't actually work, since alias is not a method, the syntax is weird
<yorickpeterse>
it shouldn't just throw away the first bit
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<yorickpeterse>
hm, that triggers a syntax error actually
<yorickpeterse>
but my diagnostic handler swallows it
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<yorickpeterse>
disregard that, I suck cock, etc
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<getseclectic>
dunno if this is the best place to ask, but i'm having problems installing ruby-oci8, it looks like it is looking for oci.h in "rdbms/public", "rdbms/demo", "network/public", "plsql/public" but none of those directories exist in the oracle instant client zips
<getseclectic>
looked through a bunch of tutorials and it seems like they just expect everything to be in the right place
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<apeiros>
getseclectic: ruby-oci8 is best installed by following the guide on ruby-oci8's website by the letter.
<getseclectic>
yeah i tried to
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<getseclectic>
but the oracle instant client zips don't have an rdbms or network or plsql subdirectory so i'm not sure why it's looking for c headers there
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<getseclectic>
similarly, it looks for sqlplus in a bin subdirectory that doesn't exist in the instant client zips
<getseclectic>
ah i see the full oracle install has those subdirectories
<getseclectic>
but there is no full oracle install for mac
<apeiros>
getseclectic: hm? I installed oci8 with instantclient too
<getseclectic>
hm
<apeiros>
current one even works on 10.8
<getseclectic>
the first problem i ran into was that sqlplus is right in $ORACLE_HOME, not a bin subdirectory
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<getseclectic>
so i made a copy of it and got past that
<apeiros>
(we were stuck with 10.6 due to scumbag oracle for years)
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<getseclectic>
but then it was looking for the c headers in $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/public or whatever
<getseclectic>
and none of those four paths it looked in exist in the instant client package
<apeiros>
weird. iirc I didn't have to do anything but exactly what the oci8 guide said
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<getseclectic>
i wonder if the oracle packages changed or something
<apeiros>
hm
<apeiros>
I last installed it about 2 months ago I think
<getseclectic>
i see the c header where it is expecting on my ubuntu desktop because i have a full oracle xe install, but not on our intern's mac with just the instant client
<getseclectic>
ah i doubt they changed much since then
<getseclectic>
maybe he screwed up some other part of the install
<getseclectic>
yeah i think he messed up one of the library paths now that i am looking through oraconf.rb some more
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<getseclectic>
it is trying to configure itself for the full install instead of the instant client
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<getseclectic>
will mess around with it some more i guess, thanks
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<jds_>
Heya
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<jds_>
I have an event loop that's waiting for input from a socket or a pipe. Is it legitimate to do something like IO.select([read_pipe, socket]), or am I doing it wrong?
<zzak>
select is your friend
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<drbrain>
jds_: that's exactly what I would do
<jds_>
Hm, ok. I couldn't find any examples in the ruby docs about passing a socket to select(), they all just talking about IO objects
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<dorei>
hello
<dorei>
how can I convert a Class method into a Proc ?
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