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<zzak>
:o
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<Barrin6>
hello all
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<Barrin6>
just started learning about "case"
<Barrin6>
it's amazing
<Barrin6>
to clean up if/else
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<Andrevan>
use those sparingly imho
<Andrevan>
you might do better refactoring into other objects if you have one crazy class with a huge case statemtn
<Barrin6>
I don't get what you said, but I'll try and remember since it might make sense later
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<Andrevan>
haha ok
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<Andrevan>
basically case statements aren't as cool as they look :)
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<Barrin6>
oh no
<Barrin6>
they arne't?!
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<Barrin6>
they are better than those if/elsif statements
<erikh>
they're not better, just different
<erikh>
few things are "better" in programming
<Barrin6>
just different hmm
<erikh>
there's no a larger language or a control structure with more horsepower
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<Barrin6>
yo macs
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<Barrin6>
you just pmed me and i tried to replied but you changed your nick
<Barrin6>
pm me again if you need instructions
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<Barrin6>
hmm seems like everyone hates on code academy here
<Barrin6>
you guys ever go through "Learn Ruby the hard way"
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<erikh>
no, but zed is good folks
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<Barrin6>
yea I kinda like his tutorial
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<Barrin6>
I'm blazing through it right now because I have already been taking code academy
<Barrin6>
and his writing style is hilarious
<macsplean>
hello everyone. what is the point of using ARGV.first? why not just regular ARGV?
<Barrin6>
hey mac, did you pm me earlier?
<Barrin6>
sorry I couldn't reply back in time
<erikh>
you have to register
<macsplean>
yeah i was trying to figure out how to talk in this channel
<erikh>
it's the first section of the topic
<Barrin6>
and I don't understand your question
<macsplean>
took a while, but i figured it out
<macsplean>
basically like why would someone write first.ARGV and not ARGV
<macsplean>
whoops i mean ARGV.first
<Barrin6>
sorry, the question is out of mys cope
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<Barrin6>
scope*
<erikh>
ARGV is an array
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<erikh>
to take the first argument, you can ARGV[0] or ARGV.first
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<macsplean>
o ok i see
<macsplean>
thanks
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<Barrin6>
I am going to finish code academy then work on "Learning Ruby the hard way"
<Barrin6>
hopefully then I'll start jumping into programming basics
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<crankharder>
having some trouble with puppet and bundler. puppet is telling me my bundle command executes successfully but there's no vendor/bundle directory created. also, both the test files in this line are created. any ideas on how else I can troubleshoot this?
<crankharder>
puppet output and command: ** [out :: jsharpe@192.168.1.138] notice: /Exec[echo first > /tmp/first.txt && bundle install --deployment --without development test && echo second > /tmp/second.txt && true]/returns: executed successfully
<Andrevan>
seems like a puppet question crankharder
<erikh>
yeah that's puppet
<erikh>
#puppet
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<crankharder>
seems weird that all these cmds are executed though... all puppet really checks is the exit code
<crankharder>
i'll ask there though
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<crankharder>
regarding that earlier question, I got some more cap output... and it seems that bundler is ignoring the --path option when it's being executed from within cap/puppet. I can't imagine puppet resetting that though
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<MouseTheLuckyDog>
In hpricot. I've retrieve a page element call it "foo". I would like a attribute of the parent element. How do I obtain it?
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<darix>
gnufied: why not use the same library that mongrel, thin and puma are using?
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<gnufied>
they are not using a library
<gnufied>
they all have different patched together bits of code that they have vendored in ext/ directory
<gnufied>
I suppose by library you mean "something that I can simply require or link against and use"
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<gnufied>
probably I will have to do the same. But dislike the idea.
<gnufied>
its like rails shipping with its own json and xml parser
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<gnufied>
and other frameworks with their own
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<yorickpeterse>
morning
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<yorickpeterse>
monday morning merge conflicts
<yorickpeterse>
GOING IN!
<yorickpeterse>
ddfreyne: yeah you're gonna have to wait with that encrypted Email until I get back home
<yorickpeterse>
I don't have any private keys here at $WORK
<yorickpeterse>
also this message better not contain the literal text "butts"
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<corecode>
hi
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<corecode>
is there a trick to make extension-less ruby scripts execute correctly under windows?
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<yorickpeterse>
oh neat, there's some code here that 1) doesn't have any tests 2) is used in production 3) doesn't work
<yorickpeterse>
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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<maloik>
poke zzak
<maloik>
around? :)
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<maloik>
corecode: what I can remember from my windows days is that you can wrap it in another script that doesn't require an extension, a dos/cmd script or whatever they are called
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<yorickpeterse>
the proper solution is to not use windows :3
<ljarvis>
this is a good candidate for having attribute readers that do special stuff
<ykk`>
well it does
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<ljarvis>
ie def art_schools; @art_schools.uniq(&:name); end
<ykk`>
not in that file
<ljarvis>
ykk`: line 40 does nothing helpful to you
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<ljarvis>
nothing
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<ykk`>
??
<erikh>
good code review is good
<ykk`>
sorry some of the other people knew where am at in the project so i didn't post the github with support files
<ykk`>
thank you for the help and scolding Ljarvis
<erikh>
no scolding
<erikh>
just solid criticism
<erikh>
!
<ykk`>
solid_criticism == scolding
<erikh>
ok fair enough :)
<ykk`>
haha
<ljarvis>
ykk`: line 40 does not mutate @art_schools in place like you probably want it to, so line 41 (where you loop through them) means there make be non-unique values present
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<ljarvis>
may be*
<ljarvis>
also, your read_in_csv_data should be split into 3 methods, which will make it much easier to debug
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<erikh>
ykk`: you mistook my goal in discussing with you, but I am actually out of time for today. Maybe tomorrow if you need help we can get off on a better foot.
<erikh>
I don't really try to concern myself with the gender of people on irc much.
<erikh>
office wakes up in about 20 minutes.
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<threedaymonk>
erikh: the trouble is that calling people "bro" isn't not concering oneself with gender, it's assuming that everyone is male by default. Best to avoid such gender-specific language.
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<erikh>
I don't give a fuck
<erikh>
don't lecture me on your stupid reddit bullshit.
<threedaymonk>
well, you should.
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<banisterfiend>
blergh
<workmad3>
banisterfiend: evenin' bro
<banisterfiend>
yo
<banisterfiend>
hehe
<erikh>
heh
<banisterfiend>
i'm highly offended by that, what if my sister was using my computer at the time?
<erikh>
banisterfiend: omg my mom called me bro once
<erikh>
I should call the police
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<erikh>
get a 60 year old lady arrested
<erikh>
SOCIAL JUSTICE
<banisterfiend>
my female friends call each other 'dude' and don't get their panties in a twist over it :)
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<workmad3>
"I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, we're all dudes!"
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<yxhuvud>
at least dude could easily be redefined to be totally gender neutral, as opposed to bro.
<banisterfiend>
yxhuvud bro is totally gender neutral in new zealand
<banisterfiend>
everyone calls each other bro
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<banisterfiend>
yxhuvud same with 'man' :)
<banisterfiend>
'hey man', fine to use on girls
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<lupine>
english is bad at gendered words
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<NemesisD>
running that i always get Don't know how to build task '/home/michael/warpmetrics_exports/hi.csv.gz'
<NemesisD>
so its like it can't synthesize the task for the compressed version
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<yorickpeterse>
NemesisD: it needs filenames
<yorickpeterse>
not just extensions
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<NemesisD>
yorickpeterse: i thought the whole point of "rule" was to not deal with specific filenames
<yorickpeterse>
oh wait, it can do extensions too
<yorickpeterse>
hm
<yorickpeterse>
Somehow I thought it required filenames
<yorickpeterse>
ignore me, I'm a dumbass
<yorickpeterse>
I need my tea
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<NemesisD>
rake baffles me
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<yorickpeterse>
ddfreyne: I hate you
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<ddfreyne>
yorickpeterse: Wait, what?
<NemesisD>
anyone? the documentation seems to indicate that rake can do this
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<canton7>
NemesisD, rule(".csv.gz" => [".csv"]) ?
<canton7>
just in case that makes a difference..
<yorickpeterse>
ddfreyne: check your Email in a few minutes
<canton7>
also rule('.csv.gz' => [ proc { |tn| ... }]), return the right stuff from the proc, but make sure it's being called at the right time with the right argument?
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<NemesisD>
canton7: i don't see why i'd have to do the proc syntax. here's my dead simple case: http://pastie.org/8367643
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<NemesisD>
can't get any simpler than that. i don't know what i'm doing wrong
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<NemesisD>
wow
<NemesisD>
it is because rake doesn't understand files with multiple extensions
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<canton7>
NemesisD, I'm more interested in seeing when the proc's being called, and with what
<ddfreyne>
yorickpeterse: You used your own pubkey instead of mine
<NemesisD>
if i make it rule ".gz" => [".csv"] it works, but obviously names my files incorrectly
<canton7>
NemesisD, aha! So yeah, rule with a regex and a proc
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<NemesisD>
ugh
<NemesisD>
well i think i'm actually lucky in that if you just to gzip file.csv it will generate file.csv.gz
<NemesisD>
so i might be able to get by without anyting crazy
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<yorickpeterse>
ddfreyne: exactly
<yorickpeterse>
decrypt that motherfucker
<yorickpeterse>
but fine, I'll use yours to at least give you a chance
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<yorickpeterse>
The problem with PGP:
<yorickpeterse>
"[...] You will need someone to help you with this. Learning how to get people's keys from a keyserver is an important skill to develop [...]"
<yorickpeterse>
GEE I LOVE RECURSIVE PROBLEMS
* yorickpeterse
actually has to fucking Google how to *not* encrypt shit using his own keys only
<ddfreyne>
Usability-wise it's a bit of a mess
<ddfreyne>
yorickpeterse: wait, what? That is weird.
<yorickpeterse>
though colours being inverse makes it hard to digest
<whitequark>
yeah, the 600 or so #r-l participants are definitely very interested
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<yorickpeterse>
#r-l?
<whitequark>
#ruby-lang.
<yorickpeterse>
there's only 358 people here
<yorickpeterse>
also I'm pretty sure those can speak for themselves
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<whitequark>
I just did.
<yorickpeterse>
big whoop
<apeiros>
#real-life
<apeiros>
naaaaa, that doesn't exist on irc
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<yorickpeterse>
apeiros: pretty sure most of it are just bots logging channels
<enebo>
I hear these things a lot on #gpgrage
<yorickpeterse>
wait there's actually a channel for that?
<enebo>
:)
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<enebo>
They need to add a unicode troll head guy I think
<yorickpeterse>
enebo: LIAR, there's no such channel
<enebo>
muhahaha…perhaps there should be though
<yorickpeterse>
You know, judofyr did that tail-f blog thing, I should probably start a rants section on my website
<yorickpeterse>
Oh my god, that's genious (inb4 the rest of the internet)
<yorickpeterse>
maybe I'll actually make it to HackerNews for once and get venture capital
<enebo>
yorickpeterse: nothing brings in VC money like internet ranting :)
<yorickpeterse>
exactly, just throw some buzzwords in and you're golden
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<redgetan>
canton7: tnx for the kurt stepehens link :)
<momomomomo>
Nothing brings in HN points like "I quit doing #{x}, you should too!"
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<yorickpeterse>
wohoo, another Rails girls event to help with
<yorickpeterse>
granted it's in February
<yorickpeterse>
momomomomo: stuff like "Why I rewrote X in {Lisp,Go}" also works pretty well
<yorickpeterse>
at least it will give pg a massive hardon
<momomomomo>
yorickpeterse: I've been on the edge of wanting to learn Go, but it just seems like I can solve most of my work with ruby, and nothing is incredibly data/thread/work intensive except for some background tasks
<yorickpeterse>
it's a hype, it will fade out in a year or two
<yorickpeterse>
then everybody jumps on the Lua train or something
<yorickpeterse>
or maybe Foundry if whitequark can actually release some code for once :>
<momomomomo>
yorickpeterse: I've been on the lua train for a little while, but I don't use it often except for messing around with https://love2d.org
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<yorickpeterse>
Lua is actually pretty neat, though it's domain is a bit too specific for me
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<momomomomo>
yorickpeterse: aye.
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<yorickpeterse>
what I don't like is how they don't have some official public repository though
<yorickpeterse>
that and how there's only like 20 packages available on Luarocks, which is a domain problem I guess
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<momomomomo>
lol yorickpeterse what is ruby gems? Surely not 'official'
<yorickpeterse>
No, I mean as in the repository of the source code
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<yorickpeterse>
oh and apparently Luarocks has 313 packages
<havenwood>
i'm kinda surprised how many Rubyists are also Gophers when i'd expect Clojurist or Scalite would be more grokable