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<xybre> Seems like you'd have to be *trying* to violate Slop's permissive license.
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<heath> Question and code there
<heath> apeiros, moving discussion here
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<apeiros> heath: I find it awesome how you say that in *both* channels</sarcasm>
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<heath> ?
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<apeiros> you think it's not necessary to say so in the channel you're moving away?
<heath> not really
heath was kicked from #ruby-lang by apeiros [if you cross-post, you're required to tell so in all involved channels, thank you.]
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<heath> Anyway, I need to sleep, I'll continue the discussion when I wake up tomorrow
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<oddmunds> morning
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<andrewvos> Heh like the way he brushed off a kicking
<andrewvos> watevs
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<yorickpeterse> so.....I think I'll be learning Go this week
<yorickpeterse> Getting tired of C++'s shit so we'll see if Go fits the bill
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<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: Go is fucking awesome
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<ljarvis> indeed
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: but how is that possible with your constant bitching about go?
<ljarvis> it might be challenging!
<yorickpeterse> meh, I mainly bitch because it's the new cool thing on the block
<yorickpeterse> "ZOMMMGGG GO FOR EVERYTHING!!!11" that basically
<ljarvis> it really is as good as *most* of the hype
<ljarvis> I realize some of it is ridiculous
<ljarvis> but yeah, enjoy
<yorickpeterse> well yeah, that's why I think it's time to try it out
<maloik> eens zoeken
<yorickpeterse> C++ literally depresses me
<maloik> oops, wrong window
<ljarvis> me too
<ljarvis> maloik: agreed
<yorickpeterse> maloik: ok, veel succes
<maloik> iknowrite
<ljarvis> ritteeee
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<ljarvis> zzak: ping me when you're online brotha
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<yorickpeterse> that reminds me, I have some slop licenses to un-violate
<yorickpeterse> and another license
<yorickpeterse> durr
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<ljarvis> wat
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<maloik> you torrented slop didnt you!
<yorickpeterse> there, done
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: I included some slop code for testing without the license
<maloik> hmm, email I was looking forward to most just says "hey, sorry for t".... gotta hate accidental sends
<maloik> now I have to wait until he figured it out and sends the full mail
<yorickpeterse> haha wow, so this packaging setup is working great but the size for project X was 47MB
<yorickpeterse> By removing all spec/ and test/ directories I cut about 10 MB
<ljarvis> wow
<yorickpeterse> Earlier on I already cut about 22 MB by being less dumb with copying Gems over
<yorickpeterse> (69 MB -> 47 MB -> 38 MB)
<yorickpeterse> Hm, I think I can get rid of more by also removing fixture/ directories
<yorickpeterse> (that are outside of spec/test)
<yorickpeterse> darn fixtures
<yorickpeterse> jesus christ, 30MB fixtures
<yorickpeterse> the fuck is in there
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<yorickpeterse> awww yisss, got it down to 8MB
<yorickpeterse> now that's a size I can live with
<yorickpeterse> oh shit, I can get it ever smaller
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<ljarvis> #ruby-lang-yorick
<yorickpeterse> deal with it
<yorickpeterse> nobody else is talking anyway
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<yorickpeterse> fuck you
<ljarvis> :D
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<yorickpeterse> End size: 4.9MB tarballed
<yorickpeterse> 30MB unpacked
<yorickpeterse> that used to be 70 MB tarballed, 431 MB unpacked
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<yorickpeterse> COULD NOT FIND A JAVASCRIPT RUNTIME, SEE HERPDERP.COM FOR A LIST OF AVAILABLE RUNTIMES
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<yorickpeterse> It still makes me sad that I have to install Node (or similar) just to compile some fucking assets
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<cout> ugh
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<cout> just got bitten by { true: 50, false: 50 }
<cout> couldn't figure out why both keys were true :)
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<gnufied> lol
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<maloik> yay, conf schedule is all done \o/
<yorickpeterse> conf schedule?
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<maloik> for arrrrcamp
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<zzak> :o
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<yorickpeterse> ah
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<kleech> Should `rvm jruby-d20 do ruby -v` not show I am using Ruby 2.0 mode? It shows 1.9.3 still...
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<zzak> ljarvis: sup LJ
<zzak> maloik: is it online?
<maloik> zzak: most likely tomorrow
<maloik> your time became 11:20 ;)
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<zzak> maloik: did you just push the schedule back an hour?
<maloik> nope not really
<erikh> ljarvis: #yorick-lang
<erikh> also good morning everybody
<zzak> hi
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<maloik> we've composed the schedule with 30min breaks though as opposed to 20min like previous editions
<maloik> wanna see what people think about that
<kleech> Anyone know if there is a JRuby version which can be installed which defaults to 2.0 syntax (without having to --2.0 or set an ENV)?
<erikh> what's hard about setting the env?
<erikh> but I don't know the answer to your question. you might want to try #jruby.
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<kleech> erikh: Ooops, I thought I was in JRuby!
<erikh> np :0
<yorickpeterse> "Making gemset rbx-head pristine... " fucking hours later
<yorickpeterse> ugh, RVM makes my head hurt
<erikh> fwiw, one thing I did with our fixtures when I was working on perl stuff is marshal them
<erikh> cut down footprint by quite a lot
<erikh> but I guess they were different than the rails fixtures
<zzak> maloik: from my experience the hallway track is usually the most engaging
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<yorickpeterse> erikh: well in this case there's no point keeping them around in the end package so I just remove them before building
<maloik> zzak: I agree, which is why we'll encourage speakers to take it to the 'lounge area' for some discussions rather than going through lengthy Q&A
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<erikh> yorickpeterse: ah, distclean or something I presume
<erikh> maloik: dat green room
<yorickpeterse> more or less
<maloik> green room ?
<erikh> a term in movies and television, the staging area for guests.
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<maloik> right I know, I just didn't get it :P
<maloik> oh wait
<maloik> I'm confusing it with green key I suppose
<erikh> ah, well, it's almost 7am here.
<maloik> or whatever that's called
<erikh> I'm not funny yet
<maloik> 7am doesn't exist in my world
<ljarvis> 7am is a lie in
<gnufied> I go for a run at 7AM
<erikh> I run in the evening
<erikh> still a fattie though
<erikh> but losing weight
<erikh> I know, TMI
<gnufied> Nice.
<ljarvis> running sucks
<yorickpeterse> Ok I'm done with RVM, proposed to get rid of it at $WORK
<erikh> rvm nerd rage
<maloik> actually I do go for runs at around 7am as well
<erikh> so, mavericks + vmware fusion 6
<erikh> is complete win
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<gnufied> rvm alternative?
<gnufied> sounds heavy weight
<gnufied> :-)
<erikh> ha
<yorickpeterse> e.g. RVM now constantly keeps saving wrappers
<yorickpeterse> why???? no idea
<gnufied> I switched to chruby from rbenv and had to switch back to rbenv btw
<yorickpeterse> rbenv rehash fuckno
<erikh> chruby meets my needs, but I don't do rails things.
<gnufied> I found chruby quiet painful to work with outside "shell" environments
<yorickpeterse> honestly I don't see why you'd need more than chruby + ruby-install
<erikh> oh
<erikh> well, don't do that then
<yorickpeterse> gnufied: true, it's a bit of a bish currently in cronjobs for example
<yorickpeterse> since it enforces a login shell, though that might've been fixed
<erikh> you guys
<erikh> smh
* yorickpeterse checks
<yorickpeterse> oh neat, that has been resolved
<erikh> you don't need a ruby switcher to run ruby in crons and on servers
<gnufied> No really. I was in world of hurt trying to get proper ruby version in Emacs
<erikh> you just need to know how to set GEM_HOME, GEM_PATH, and PATH
<gnufied> with chruby
<yorickpeterse> erikh: which is what chruby does
<erikh> right -- but if you know what ruby you want, always, it's super simple
<erikh> like absurdly so
<yorickpeterse> true, but the issue was that it would spit out an error "HERP DERP NOT A LOGIN SHELL", though it would still work
<gnufied> erikh: but it uses RPROMPT or some stuff to detect auto ruby switching
<erikh> so stop using chruby in your cron bits
<yorickpeterse> "Regenerating wrappers for ...." WHY DOES THIS TAKE SO LONG?
<erikh> that's what i'm saying
<yorickpeterse> FFS I'm supposed to do things, not wait for RVM to get its shit together
<gnufied> it is a problem for tool like Emacs too.
<erikh> well sure, that's different though
<erikh> you actually need to switch ruby there
<erikh> in cron I doubt you have to
<gnufied> yep. and honestly rbenv worked well enough, I don't mind the shims
<gnufied> ;-)
<ljarvis> someone is eating derp sizzurp
<erikh> ljarvis: dat #yorick-lang
<ljarvis> wait to you eat or drink syrup
<yorickpeterse> I think you eat it
<ljarvis> i guess it depends how thick it is
<ljarvis> my canadian half is coming out
<erikh> you eat it, unless you're ... special
<ljarvis> canadian ^
<erikh> no
<erikh> just special
<erikh> like the short bus
<ljarvis> YES GOT DAMMIT
<erikh> hahaa
<ljarvis> I cant spell today
<erikh> so mad
<erikh> so english
<ljarvis> could be worse
<erikh> yeah you could be german
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: give me your best british impression
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: "cunt"
<erikh> haha
<erikh> so true
<ljarvis> yep
<ljarvis> andrewvos could probably beat that
<yorickpeterse> he's drinking coconut stuff somewhere in Cancun
<erikh> so, VMware 6 actually doesn't actually eat up the battery
<ljarvis> the only thing more british than "cunt" is "prick".. "fuck off ya prick"
<erikh> if the machines are idle
<zzak> maloik: +1
<erikh> getting 7 hours battery life with it
<yorickpeterse> oh so now RVM is suddenly fast
<yorickpeterse> grrrr
<ljarvis> heh, I dont even get that from this mbp without running something that phat
<erikh> disk cache probably
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<yorickpeterse> HAHA and it still generates the fucking wrappers
<erikh> ljarvis: do you have gfxCardStatus?
<erikh> flipping the nvidia on will do it
<erikh> also, mavericks
<ljarvis> what is this i dont even
<erikh> much better battery life
<erikh> like, retardedly so
<ljarvis> interesting
<ljarvis> this has annoyed me for like a year and I've no idea what's draining it
<erikh> my discrete is on with vmware running and i'm still getting 7 hours
<yorickpeterse> I get around 6 hours on Lunix
<erikh> yeah, check out gfxCardStatus
<yorickpeterse> on a MBP
<erikh> yorickpeterse: it largely depends on which video card is enabled
<yorickpeterse> Yeah I have the Nvidia one turned off because of that
<yorickpeterse> That alone easily saves you an hour or two
<erikh> yep, so, with mavericks, I have it on
<erikh> and I'm getting ~7h
<yorickpeterse> noice
<ljarvis> I think it's worrying i get like 3 hours use out of this machine before it's dead
<erikh> ljarvis: damnit get that tool already
<gnufied> I have gfxCardStatus but no Nvidia option (only Intel and AMD) should I install Nvidia to get 7 hours of batter life?
<gnufied> bettery*
<ljarvis> erikh: im on it
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<ljarvis> bettery
<ljarvis> tehe
<erikh> gnufied: no, it you have an amd card instead
<erikh> the nvidia only comes with certain models
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<erikh> and, the integrated card (intel) is usually much better on battery life
<erikh> well chip technically but horseshoes
<ljarvis> somehow i dont think this will give me 3+ hours though
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<erikh> ljarvis: it'll tell you what's kicking on your discrete graphics
<erikh> turn those things off when you need battery
<ljarvis> sweet
<erikh> you can also force it to use intel
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<erikh> which sometimes works but is a bit unstable
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<maloik> zzak: actually just put it online, we're going to try tweeting at another time than usual
<maloik> noticed ticket sales often come in during the evening so this may work better for us, we'll see :-)
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<yorickpeterse> 8 projects in Jenkins and updated for our new deployment setup, 15 more to go
<yorickpeterse> I suppose not having test suites is making this go faster, lel
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<yorickpeterse> hhahahaha
<yorickpeterse> fucking ddfreyne
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<banisterfiend> lol just got a job offer for a position programming PHP, java, and perl
<banisterfiend> couldn't think of anything more horrifying
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<eam> php and java are pretty grim, but modern perl is pretty nice these days
<eam> I have to use ruby 1.8.7 and I'd take perl over that in a heartbeat :)
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<ljarvis> perl is awesome
<ljarvis> also java wouldn't be *that* bad
<ljarvis> php would be my least favourite
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<eam> agreed
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<apeiros> agreed on php being the last one of these I'd want to code in
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<darix> for the jvm you can just write mirah or skala or jruby and noboy would notice ;)
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<ljarvis> i enjoyed scala when i wrote it, but it's just too big
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<darix> ljarvis: to big in what regard?
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<ljarvis> darix: 30 ways to do 1 thing, but only 1 good way.. every time I did something I thought was right, I'd ask someone and they'd tell me a similar way but that saves 10x memory, it just got tedious very quickly
<darix> hehe sounds like it
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<headius> drbrain: ping
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<drbrain> headius: pong
<drbrain> headius: I've got a few minutes
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<tubbo> ok so i guess i don't know how sleep works
<drbrain> headius: bus time, you can /msg me and I'll pick it up when I reconnect, save some time
<cout> hi drbrain
<tubbo> https://gist.github.com/tubbo/b9071a109e3b10fbb4eb is what i'm doing, i thought sleep() was supposed to wait in seconds?
<tubbo> but it just runs every like 2 seconds no matter what i put as the duration..
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<cout> tubbo: maybe your query takes 1 second to run
<tubbo> oh wait now it works
<tubbo> wtf lol
<cout> maybe you didn't save your file
<tubbo> haha maybe :)
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<headius> drbrain: PR for you when you get a chance, that is all
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<symm-> hi
<mistym> Hi symm-
<symm-> does this channel ban for inactive lurking? I have the feeling I'd been devoiced for a while, having done nothing bad whatsoever :)
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<symm-> hi mistym
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<maloik> symm-: not something I pay a lot of attention to, but I've hardly seen anyone getting flags in here so I doubt it was done on purpose or for a reason ?
<chris2> i think you get voice if you are registered?
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<maloik> with the network? or with a bot in here
<chris2> there is certainly no punishment for lurking :)
<maloik> I'm currently authed apparently
<chris2> hm, no
<chris2> there is no such mode here
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<symm-> ok :) thanks
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<KINGSABRI> hi guys
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<KINGSABRI> How I can match first occurance by regex ?
<KINGSABRI> Host: domain.com:8080
<KINGSABRI> I need to match only the first " : "
<KINGSABRI> like I've text
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<nofxx> KINGSABRI: =~ /:/ ?
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<yorickpeterse> STAND BACK PEOPLE, I'm doing a Git rebase
<KINGSABRI> nofxx: thanks,, but this matching space case, what if we have
<KINGSABRI> Host: domain.com:8080
<KINGSABRI> Anything: foo : bar
<KINGSABRI> thats why I'm asking for first occurrence
<drbrain> KINGSABRI: so your string is "Host: domain.com:8080"?
<drbrain> and you want to match the : following Host, but not the one in domain.com:8080?
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<KINGSABRI> drbrain: yes and it could be more this like
<KINGSABRI> Host: domain.com:8080
<KINGSABRI> see there is a space between : and bar too
<KINGSABRI> Anything: foo: bar
<KINGSABRI> I need it matching 1st one only
<drbrain> the =~ /:/ will match the first :
<KINGSABRI> /:/ will match every single :
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<nofxx> yorickpeterse: magit emacs makes it really easy... + git-up
<drbrain> >> /:/ =~ "Anything: foo: bar"
<eval-in> drbrain => 8 (https://eval.in/47534)
<drbrain> KINGSABRI: no, it matches the first : at position 8 ↑
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<drbrain> >> [/:/ =~ "Anything: foo: bar", $`, $']
<eval-in> drbrain => [8, "Anything", " foo: bar"] (https://eval.in/47535)
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<nofxx> KINGSABRI: you want first occurrence of ':' followed by integers ?
<yorickpeterse> nofxx: emacs....what is this
<yorickpeterse> I already have an OS
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<nofxx> yorickpeterse: yea.. multiboot is the last problem of the world
<KINGSABRI> would you test it here please ?
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<KINGSABRI> test you regex
<nofxx> my grub screen reads: [arch / arch fallback / seu tiao (nickname of an old out-of-bussiness arcade we had here) ]
<drbrain> KINGSABRI: I don't care about tubular, I tested it in ruby
<drbrain> rubular
<drbrain> tubular is more likely to lie to you than `ruby -e` or `irb`
<nofxx> it boots a not genuine windows, with the only game I care to play... GTR2 heh
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<drbrain> (autocorrect)
<KINGSABRI> drbrain: see it I used it with split
<drbrain> you don't use split to find the first :
<KINGSABRI> drbrain: so what should I use?
<drbrain> KINGSABRI: "I want to find the first :" and "I want to split a string into a field and value on :, and the value can itself contain :" are different problems
<drbrain> for the second problem, the one you have, you can use split
<drbrain> >> "Anything: foo: bar".split ':', 2
<eval-in> drbrain => ["Anything", " foo: bar"] (https://eval.in/47538)
<KINGSABRI> drbrain: yuppp ,, that works perfeclly
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<drbrain> KINGSABRI: please be specific about your problems, it will save us confusion
<drbrain> :D
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<KINGSABRI> drbrain: yes , sorry :)
<KINGSABRI> drbrain: thank man :)
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<drbrain> np
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