#ruby-lang on 2013-05-25 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-05-14 18:40 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p195: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p429) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com

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00:48 <dingus_khan> Anyone got any particular thoughts on Beginning Ruby?

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02:14 <dingus_khan> the ruby-docs doesn't explain this, but when I just call File.open("textfile.txt").each { |line| line_count +=1 }, how does it each element in the block is a different line?

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02:14 <dingus_khan> how does it *know

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03:10 <bnagy> that's what IO#each does

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03:10 <bnagy> by default anyway

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03:36 <dingus_khan> bnagy, I dropped out of the chatroom--you wouldn't be responding to me, would you?

03:37 <bnagy> yeah I was

03:37 <dingus_khan> OK, so the only parts I saw were "That's what IO#each does" and "by default anyway", was there any part I missed?

03:38 <bnagy> nope

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03:43 <dingus_khan> OK, sweet, thanks for the response, Imma go look up IO#each now, lol. I wish there was a place like ruby-docs, except that explains stuff like I'm five... :$

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04:05 <MouseTheLuckyDog> I need a data structure. One that can hold "equivalence classes". I have a bunch of objects, they divide into subgroups. I need to efficiently put them into the data structure, and I need to look up the subgroup that contains a particular opbject.

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04:18 <bnagy> collection of Hashes?

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04:22 <bnagy> how about make all the groups [] and have a {obj => group} for every obj?

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04:24 <bnagy> inserting into a group is an array insert and a hash insert, looking up the group for an obj is O1

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04:50 <MouseTheLuckyDog> bnagy, I thought about the hash thing, but how do you avoid the arrays in the hash copying when you insert a new element.

04:51 <bnagy> the group is just one array, the hash just contains a pointer to it

04:52 <bnagy> or many pointers to it, whatever

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04:52 <MouseTheLuckyDog> bnagy, how do I make sure that the hash contains references to the array rather then copies?

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04:53 <bnagy> you don't have to

04:54 <bnagy> it's cumbersome to make object copies in ruby, you know when you're doing it

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08:38 <zenspider> rawr

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08:42 <zenspider> 1862 runs, 9033 assertions, 6 failures, 14 errors, 142 skips

08:43 <zenspider> rapidly improving

08:43 <zenspider> yay

08:49 <zenspider> 1862 runs, 9075 assertions, 6 failures, 0 errors, 142 skips

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08:58 <zenspider> oops

08:59 <zenspider> corundum: seen whitequark?

08:59 <corundum> who knows?

08:59 <corundum> whitequark was last seen 15 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying apeiros: will explain this better :)

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09:16 <whitequark> what

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09:20 <zenspider> well hello to you too

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09:22 <rue> What passes for polite these days

09:22 <whitequark> zenspider: oh, hi

09:22 <whitequark> I take it you're working on ruby_parser now?

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09:26 <zenspider> whitequark: n/m

09:27 * whitequark shrugs

09:28 <zenspider> yeah. me too

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09:32 <zenspider> rue: argh! Kp was 6.33 2 hours ago and I missed it. that's strong enough that it is visible here if I just get far enough out of the city

09:33 <zenspider> stupid sun

09:33 <zenspider> stupid city

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09:44 <rue> zenspider: Might have seen something, yeah. There was a flare visible down here a month ago or so. Did you catch any on your trip?

09:46 <zenspider> the lapp land trip never happened. too complex & expensive

09:46 <zenspider> was contemplating doing alaska to cut down on both, but it has been 100% overcast whenever we have any activity

09:46 <zenspider> same with NW canada

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11:14 <yorickpeterse> whitequark: ++++++ about the comments support in parser

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11:17 <yorickpeterse> this actually permits me to put some better parameter/return value support in ruby-lint as I can extract YARD tags now

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11:22 <whitequark> yorickpeterse: yupp

11:22 <whitequark> also, parser should be mostly complete now

11:22 <whitequark> maybe I'll add a ruby_parser compat mode

11:23 <whitequark> but that's about it.

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12:47 <injekt> yay for ruby 2.0 mri defining EncodingError but rbx/jruby not

12:47 <injekt> mri in general in fact

12:47 <injekt> 18>> EncodingError

12:47 <eval-in> injekt => uninitialized constant EncodingError (NameError) ... (http://eval.in/31488)

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12:48 <injekt> 19>> EncodingError

12:48 <eval-in> injekt => EncodingError (http://eval.in/31489)

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12:54 <whitequark> ugh.

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12:57 <dbussink> injekt: i don't get it

12:57 <injekt> dbussink: hm?

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12:58 <dbussink> what's the issue with EncodingError?

12:58 <injekt> JRuby/RBX doesn't define it as far as I can tell

12:58 <dbussink> running it in 1.9 / 2.0 mode?

12:58 <injekt> yes

12:58 <dbussink> since works perfectly fine for me in both

12:58 <injekt> hm odd

12:59 <injekt> https://travis-ci.org/sparklemotion/mechanize/builds/7489290

12:59 <injekt> oh wait

12:59 <dbussink> that's running 1.8 modes

12:59 <injekt> dammit

12:59 <dbussink> and rbx 1.9 mode seems to work fine

12:59 <injekt> I thought I removed those

12:59 <injekt> i need some sleep

13:00 <injekt> dbussink: thanks

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13:02 <dbussink> injekt: any reason rbx 1.9 mode is an allowed failure?

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15:18 <MouseTheLuckyDog> I want to create a hash where the values are arrays. How can I guarantee that the hash value is a reference to the array, or a copy of the array?

15:19 <bnagy> 12:49 < bnagy> you don't have to

15:19 <bnagy> 12:50 < bnagy> it's cumbersome to make object copies in ruby, you know when you're doing it

15:19 <bnagy> anyway, night

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16:53 <andrewvos> MouseTheLuckyDog: no

16:53 <andrewvos> Maybe rethink your design

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17:02 <erikh> hello

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17:34 <andrewvos> hi

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18:14 <erikh> eam: btw, I looked today while doing some other smartos stuff, it indeed can pxe boot

18:14 <erikh> not sure why I thought it couldn't

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19:30 <yorickpeterse> MouseTheLuckyDog: a copy *or* a reference? wat

19:30 <yxhuvud> why choose? copy the reference!

19:31 <ruurd> reference the copy!

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20:15 <MouseTheLuckyDog> yorickpeterse, So I have a hash with the same 100 element array in 100 places. I then add an element to one of the places. How can I be sure that putting the element into that one place will ad it to all the others?

20:15 <MouseTheLuckyDog> s/ad/add/

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20:45 <injekt> dbussink: no idea, I hadn't checked that. Maybe priority, not sure

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21:02 <workmad3> MouseTheLuckyDog: if all 100 places are references to the same object, then yes

21:03 <MouseTheLuckyDog> Sigh.

21:03 <MouseTheLuckyDog> workmad3: That was my original question.

21:03 <MouseTheLuckyDog> yorickpeterse, So I have a hash with the same 100 element array in 100 places. I then add an element to one of the places. How can I be sure that putting the element into that one place will ad it to all the others?

21:04 <MouseTheLuckyDog> I want to create a hash where the values are arrays. How can I guarantee that the hash value is a reference to the array, or a copy of the array?

21:04 <MouseTheLuckyDog> Sorry aboutt he first question --my mistake.

21:04 <hagabaka> when you use assignment in ruby, it's always a reference

21:04 <workmad3> ^^

21:04 <hagabaka> a copy is made only when you use .dup or similar

21:04 <workmad3> .dup or .clone are the normal ones

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21:05 <MouseTheLuckyDog> Ok. Got it.

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23:51 <naquad> "6173".scan(/../).map {|x| x.hex.chr}.join('') => 'as' - any better solution?

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