<kristianpaul> Ne-Brezhibni Protokol lea.hamradio.si/~s53mv/archive/a397.pdf
<kyak> qi-bot: you are a failure!
<wpwrak> kyak: qi-bot doesn't seem to be in any hurry to pass the turing test :)
<wpwrak> hmm, seems that the USB stack doesn't count CRC errors. that may be a worthwhile extension ...
<wpwrak> (at least UHCI can provide this information, and the way it's used, it actually does)
<viric> how is the status of ip over the atben and all that?
<wpwrak> still about the same as a month ago. i.e., dirtpan sort of works for simple things
<wpwrak> still need to improve the driver to use the new more "intelligent" firmware features. but that won't happen for a few days. caught a flu. second one in this winter :-( and i don't trust my head with non-trivial code in that condition
<viric> ok clear
<viric> take rest :)
<wolfspraul> wpwrak: oh wow, rest well. lots of sleeping and drinking (non-alcoholic :-))
<wpwrak> jaegermeister actually helps :)
<wpwrak> and i have my magic pills from canada that suppress the symptoms pretty well. but i know that any hour i'd spend hacking anything complicated now would result in something like four hours trying to find the weird bugs later :)
<jivs> bartbes, managed to bypass the module compiling and compile guile fully but its not working on ben
<jivs> just says Aborted and quits
<bartbes> I imagine that might happen if it didn't get fully compiled
<jivs> i guess we shouldn't skip the module compilation. need to just make it faster
<bartbes> I mean, I would assume the host stuff is necessary
<bartbes> oh is it supposed to take years?
<bartbes> and years
<jivs> i tried copying the /usr/share/guile content manually . didn't help
<kyak> wpwrak: qi-bot would have answered if he wasn't so badly disappointed by the fact that he was a failure :)
<bartbes> well, that's because they're not even the same version
<jivs> yeah, i even left it running overnight...never completes
<bartbes> perhaps it just swallows the errors
<bartbes> because when I tried to run it manually I got an error straight away
<jivs> i noticed GUILE_AUTO_COMPILE =0 stuff comes on the toolchain and it stucks but there is nothing  like this on the same stage if i make on the host machine
<jivs> may be it has sthg to do but not sure
<bartbes> I remember another program having problems with compiled std libraries
<bartbes> perhaps it was gforth?
<bartbes> anyway, can't we delay the module compiling till on the ben?
<bartbes> on a semi-related note: did anybody get nanonote binaries to work with qemu, btw?
<jivs> not sure abt module compiling delay
<wpwrak> wolfspraul: regarding fancy prices, here's the projector to do with the M1: http://www.hdi3d.com/products.html
<wpwrak> wolfspraul: the M1 will only be <1% of the price ;-))
<wpwrak> most of the money probably goes into making those fancy cases. and "hand-made in the USA" ;-))
<bartbes> mechanical hands, even
<bartbes> jivs: "ERROR: Unbound variable: eval-when"
<bartbes> apparently it was using the wrong guile
<bartbes> so I made it use my system's guile
<bartbes> that was the result
<jivs> r u getting this error before it compiles the module?
<jivs> I uninstalled guile 1.8 from my host machine if it will cause any conflict..
<bartbes> as soon as it starts compiling the docs
<bartbes> (which is before the scheme modules)
<jivs> even with your patch to disable the docs?
<[g2]> waves to wpwrak
<wpwrak> [g2]: how are things going ?
<jivs> bartbes, i am now trying w/o the docs disabling patch. lets see if i strike the same error as you
<[g2]> wpwrak, Ok thx and you ?
<wpwrak> [g2]: currently not so good. caught a cold :-( the seasonal fun ...
<[g2]> wpwrak, drink lots of Vit C and take Vit D.  Be well.
<wpwrak> hmm .. gotta check what vitamins are in jaegermeister :) in any case, it works great against the cough :)
<wpwrak> [g2]: how are the boards coming along ?
<[g2]> wpwrak, I've done 3 revs of a plain arduino.  I need to make some tweaks for v0.4
<[g2]> wpwrak, have you seen these ? http://www.dresden-elektronik.de/shop/prod111.html
<[g2]> that's kinda the module I'd want to do, except all open.
<wpwrak> they used a decent chip. not the old 230 but the new 231
<wpwrak> you could use the same MCU if you want to. combines MCU (alas, without USB) with the transceiver.so you save board space, component count, and get slightly better EMC
<wpwrak> drawback: you can't change to a different MCU so easily
<lekernel> should try your jaegermeister remedy :)
<[g2]> wpwrak, love talking but must run now.
<wpwrak> [g2]: ah, sports ;)
<wpwrak> lekernel: camp too wet ? :)
<[g2]> wpwrak, you are correct about MCUs.  Really though,  a $15 6lowpan solution would be a great place to start.
<[g2]> wpwrak, you're funny.
<[g2]> wpwrak, also did you see the zigduino ?
<wpwrak> (zig) sure :)
<[g2]> cheers mate, be well.
<bartbes> can qi-bot store messages for someone?
<bartbes> qi-bot: tell jivs does this work?
<bartbes> guess not..
<bartbes> I remember it having a similar feature