<rafa>
kyak: so quake, doom, old dos/win scare you.. which else? vim? :)
<bartbes>
emacs scares everyone
<bartbes>
(or should anyway)
<rafa>
rm scares people, I know.. that is why nobody uses root user, because rm is around ;)
<kyak>
rafa: i love vim, actually :)
<bartbes>
what is there not to love about vim?
<kyak>
i'm not scared of root, i'm scared of "enter" key :)
<bartbes>
so every sentence you type here you freak out?
<kyak>
especially when it's pressed by accident
<rafa>
haha
<bartbes>
ugh I hate that
<bartbes>
when you're pressing backspace
<bartbes>
and you hit enter by accident
<kyak>
yep, exactly :)
<bartbes>
and that could work out wrong
<bartbes>
sudo rm /a, oh
<bartbes>
<backspace><enter> NOOOOO
<rafa>
what about ed editor? :=
<bartbes>
(I forgot -rf)
<rafa>
:)
<kyak>
i once typed rm -rf /* to show how cool i'm. And then i pressed Enter for some reason :) luckily, it was not root and i pressed ctrl+c really fast
<rafa>
that would be good to remove innecesary files
<zear>
it might be either ctrl, or one of that silly arrow buttons
<urandom__>
ctrl
<bartbes>
well I'm pretty sure that doesn't work
<bartbes>
fn
<urandom__>
i was never able to set the time in dgClock
<bartbes>
well, fn is the answer
<bartbes>
wut
<bartbes>
it uses something else
<bartbes>
what I didn't enter
<bartbes>
hmm
<urandom__>
yeah that happens for me too
<bartbes>
ehm well
<bartbes>
it's only a few hours off now :P
<urandom__>
well if you want GUI stuff just use the Jlime distro it might sound hard but it is much better than the gmenu2x crap and has X and matchbox
<zear>
bartbes, just set the time via "date"
<zear>
it reads it from there
<bartbes>
great
<bartbes>
well no
<bartbes>
because that time is correct
<bartbes>
maybe I need to restart it..
<bartbes>
meh
<bartbes>
works now
<bartbes>
just set it there
<bartbes>
and restart it
<urandom__>
i just use date to look up the time ^^
<zear>
but qi & dingoonity guys are working together on a new version of gmenu2x
<zear>
explorer and other things are already fixed in it
<zear>
if you're skilled enough you should be able to compile it from the svn
<bartbes>
:P
<bartbes>
I'll start experimenting tomorrow
<bartbes>
.. I think..
<bartbes>
:P
<bartbes>
I only got it ~6 hours ago
<urandom__>
"if you're skilled enough" wow that doesnt sound good :P but good you guys are working on a new version
<bartbes>
how does it decide when to turn off the screen?
<zear>
urandom__, you just need to know how to cross-compile, that's all :D
<zear>
there should be a Makefile and everything prepared already
<zear>
so all you have to do should be setting up the cross-compiler and typing "make" ;)
<ao2>
hi, a slightly OT question, I am trying to make a SDW-823 MicroSD wlan card work on linux, but on a platform different than Ben Nanonote. I read someone got it working on the nanonote, whom can I ask advice to?
<zedstar>
ao2 is it openwrt based? if so the wiki has some instructions
<bartbes>
so ehm, where do I see the image version?
<ao2>
zedstar, I have found that, thanks. But I was hoping to talk to who wrote it, what's Wolfgang Spraul nickname?
<bartbes>
btw, is qi-hardware.com down?
<bartbes>
weird
<bartbes>
...
<bartbes>
oh, it returns
<bartbes>
not.. really..
<bartbes>
wut
<zedstar>
ao2 wolfspraul but doesnt look like he is on....anyway im curious to try that wifi card...i saw the blog where someone tested it
<bartbes>
urandom__: do you know how to see current image version?
<zedstar>
ao2 what device u got?
<ao2>
zedstar, right now I just inserted it and I've got some mmc errors, not sure if they were because there is no driver or because some other factor: http://pastebin.com/gH0xx42c
<ao2>
the targed device is a Motorola A780 running the openezx.org kernel, it is pxa27x
<ao2>
s/targed/target/
<zedstar>
a02 sorry cant help but i remember reading on the ben it doesnt recognise when inserted and have to boot or something with it in
<ao2>
zedstar, yes, I am booting with the card already inserted
<zear>
oh hey, looks like i just built their wikireader binary on x86
<tuxbrain>
as carlos camargo (it designer) says :SAKC is a development board for hardware and software hackers. SAKC has a MIPS processor running at 360MHz, also has an Spartan 3 FPGA. This combination enable many applications like robotics, automation, signal acquisition, and publicity applications. The SW is based on Qi-hardware development, right now there are some distributions available: Openwrt, Debian, Jlime.
<urandom__>
the SACK is pretty intresting having an FPGA and all but not sure what i would do with it
<nebajoth>
add penis ports
<nebajoth>
go to tooowwwnnn
<bartbes>
so ehm
<bartbes>
I can't get it to detect the package
<tuxbrain>
Is using the same heart as Ben but with the power of an FPGA, urandom__ you can see of what the carlos pupils are planing to do with it here, they will fill the info during this academic period http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/2010-II/es are in spanish but you can pray to saint Goo to translate
<bartbes>
ah
<bartbes>
something's missing
<urandom__>
cant i have an Ben with an FPGA and 64mb ram and usb host? that would be so awesome
<bartbes>
usb host in itself is nice
<bartbes>
*by
<bartbes>
btw, urandom__, toolchain is only about 75 mb
<bartbes>
which is still a lot of space for something I can't get to work :P
<urandom__>
well my whole openwrt dir is 8gb, i looked now
<wpwrak>
urandom__: i don't think the sakc fits inside. if you look at the picture, it's longer. if should also have components under the lcm, so there woul be no open space for the battery
<urandom__>
wpwrak yeah didnt expect it to fit, but an nanonote with FPGA and all would have been awesome
<wpwrak>
it would at lest be something you don't find everywhere ;-)
<wpwrak>
not sure how useful it would be in the ben case, though. i think you need a bit of space for interfaces and such, to do something really useful with the fpga.
<wpwrak>
well. or maybe make a physics accelerator on the fpga and port crysis ;-)
<tuxbrain>
let's drop down some expectations here,
<tuxbrain>
a) Due price of 64Mb we are taking to use same as ben 32Mb, all in all due it use barelly same apps as ben the actual 64Mb of the prototipe are not really used.
<tuxbrain>
b) usb host, it don't have it by default, but due the advancements on developing the USB on Milkymist on this matter is posible to implemtent the usb host with the FPGA and an aditional chip Navie.
<urandom__>
Navie?
<tuxbrain>
yes same chip is using on arduino boards to interface with USB
<lekernel>
tuxbrain, there's no additional chip for USB
<lekernel>
it's integrated in the fpga
<tuxbrain>
better then :)
<lekernel>
and yes the milkymist soc includes an AVR
<lekernel>
not used as main CPU
<bartbes>
btw, what lua libs are included by default?
<lekernel>
the only USB-specific chip on M1 is an analogue transceiver, not much
<lekernel>
all it does is convert 3.3V logic levels to USB-compliant logic levels
<tuxbrain>
lekernel: methril will work on implemnt that usb apart on SACK board :) he is very interested
<lekernel>
this won't be easy
<tuxbrain>
he is a clever guy :)
<urandom__>
bartbes just the normal stuff, there are packages for lua-filesystem and sockets
<tuxbrain>
And due I'm interested to I will be what here in spanish call a "mosca cojonera" (balls touching fly)
<tuxbrain>
how lisp programer see other lenguages programes is really fun
<urandom__>
Just because we Lisp programmers are better than everyone else is no excuse for us to be arrogant.    so true
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain: aren't the usb host pins of the cpu exported ?
<tuxbrain>
wpwrak: No I think not.
<zedstar>
urandom__ gnu guile (a dialect of lisp) runs on the ben already
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain: (lisp) i'm a bit surprised that they actually see them at all :)
<tuxbrain>
well the have a some angle of vision between ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
<urandom__>
zedstar yeah i know, oh and also we have emacs on ben
<zedstar>
and guile 2.0 out real soon....major improvements
<ao2>
hi, where can I find the kernel repository for the Ben Nanonote? I am interested in the MicroSD wlan card driver in particular, the wiki page mentions openwrt-xburst but there is no link
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain: oh, indeed. it uses a different cpu, without usb host :-(
<urandom__>
i like how c/c++ users are pictured as robots
<tuxbrain>
urandom__:Â Â not so bad man, visual basic is far more worst that java,
<nebajoth>
lets use cobol
<nebajoth>
program evvverrryything in fortran
<urandom__>
never used visual basic, good old BASIC was cool
<tuxbrain>
let's stop using abstraction layers, let's read the fucking processor datasheet and put directly byte codes
<nebajoth>
yes
<nebajoth>
10001110001101010111
<tuxbrain>
nebajoth: 8E357
<tuxbrain>
shorter an is the same :P
<urandom__>
but writing 10001110001101010111 is more.. hardcore
<nebajoth>
hexadecimal is an abstraction layer
<nebajoth>
you hypocriiittee
<nebajoth>
JK :D
<tuxbrain>
hahahahaah
<tuxbrain>
you have discovered me , damn , but in that case 0 and 1 is also a layer is 0V and XV (X is whatever voltage the electronic is sensitive for) put your tonge in the rj45 that I will send you a private message heheeheh
<nebajoth>
OR TRY THAT NEW INTERNET OVER POWER MAINS
<nebajoth>
:D
<nebajoth>
soz, I switched into 4chan mode
<tuxbrain>
my palate is not such sensitive to discriminate the porting signal on 220V at 50Hz,
<nebajoth>
haha
<nebajoth>
I smell cowardice!
<nebajoth>
ach
<nebajoth>
it is too warm in this room
<nebajoth>
I must depart
<nebajoth>
o/
<tuxbrain>
here in spain have a sentence with literal  translation is "boiled cat runs away from cold water" and I have been already in contact with 220V for a while, not funny , so yes you smell it :P
<tuxbrain>
well I hope he read it on the logs :P
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain: "for a while" means during some time. did you guys in barcelona hatch some new kind of addiction ? ;-)
<tuxbrain>
well, for a while i mean during about one minutes in a half, that I can't deattach my self from the current , better use "once" isn't it?
<tuxbrain>
that was the by far longest minute on all my life
<tuxbrain>
without notice I touch the two poles of a plug deattaching it (I was young about 16) suddenly I was stucked , I will to shot but no noise from mouth, I will to open my hands but no response, arms muscles where titilating at 50Hz per second, luckily one of this titilations finally disconnetcts the plug, secuels.... well I have ended creating a company to sell and promote copyleft hardware :P
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain: (longest minute) wow ! so you really did mean "for a while". sounds impressive. not that i'm in any hurry to try anything similar :)
<tuxbrain>
yeah you will end up with no money, and a lot of geeks arround you, not recomended :P
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain: to get your flash, you should have chosen drugs instead of electricity. still no money, but girls instead of geeks.
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain: of course, give that exposure to electricity has made you a dealer of electronics, one has to wonder what exposure to drugs have done ... :)
<tuxbrain>
hehehe this conversation is getting adults only :P , just a point  drugs and electricity are non excluding :P , I was young remember? :) , about the girls ... well some day I will write my memories and I will tell how I meet my wife and actual mother or my lovely daughter, and add another chapter on how I lose my shyness by "shy overdose" on ficeb (yes search for that word on google).
<qi-commits>
Maarten ter Huurne: Give adjustInput() an empty default implementation and remove empty overrides. http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/44bed79
<qi-commits>
Maarten ter Huurne: Added MenuSettingStringBase, an abstract base class for MenuSettingString, MenuSettingFile and MenuSettingDir. http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/d1d55a7
<qi-commits>
Maarten ter Huurne: Removed duplicate code between MenuSettingFile and its MenuSettingImage subclass. http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/9d05af2
<qi-commits>
Maarten ter Huurne: Declared methods abstract where possible; moved destructor implementation out of header. http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/ac30153
<qi-commits>
Maarten ter Huurne: Remove code duplication between the two constructors of MenuSettingBool. http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/eff06b0
<qi-commits>
Maarten ter Huurne: Give LinkApp a direct reference to the InputManager object