09:10 <atk> DocScrutinizer05: https://www.accountholdsettlement.com/

09:11 <atk> America only though.

10:11 <DocScrutinizer05> up to USD 440.- for Neo900 UG, if we were eligible

10:12 <enyc> hrrm

10:12 <enyc> 2 of which proved to be usef,l un different circumstances =)

11:28 <atk> DocScrutinizer05: hmm, that's a rather small value

11:29 <atk> Do these governments just side with the big corporations? Surely paypal could pay out thousands per person affected and still have 99% of their money.

11:29 <atk> It doesn't seem like these are punishing amounts, just wrist slaps.

11:30 <atk> The potential damages for Neo900UG in this case would probably be somewhere in the thousands in lost purchases do to unsure circumstances and just general fuckery

11:30 <DocScrutinizer05> lawyers were thousand(s) already

11:31 <enyc> I'd be more interested in sorting any potential-wider-pbacking-investors and visibility of feasibility-of-competing-project

11:32 <jonwil> So is Neo900 still stuck because of PayPal crap and BS or are those scumbags no longer holding onto Neo900 funds?

11:32 <Wizzup> no, it is not

11:32 <jonwil> Oh and the crap they pull is why I dont have an account with them and refuse to have anything to do with them :)

11:33 <atk> It's not stuck because of that, but it has caused major disruptions to the project and considerable damages.

11:34 <atk> The initial delay has now effectively doubled because of the fact that the paypal nonsense meant that the project now needs a new layouter

11:35 <jonwil> Someone should invent a PayPal competitor that has all the good things about PayPal (pay people all over the world, easy to use, fast transfer times, low fees etc) but none of the crap (freezing accounts, withholding money, pulling money from linked bank accounts etc)

11:35 <atk> There's a project like that

11:35 <atk> but as usual with names of things, I can't remember the name of the project

11:36 <DocScrutinizer05> transferwise?

11:36 <jonwil> I suspect however that anti-terror laws and "know-your-customer" laws in many countries mean there are certain instances where PayPal is legally obligated to hold money until they have full proof of the identity of the party concerned.

11:37 <DocScrutinizer05> (PP impact) worst impact was on my health