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<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer51: btw, something like this may be useful when dealing with branches: PS1='\h:\w`_branch=$(git branch 2>/dev/null | sed "s/^* //p;d"); [ $PIPESTATUS = 0 -a "${_branch#master}" ] && echo "[$_branch]"`\$ '
<DocScrutinizer05> thanks :-)
<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer51: its an extension of the basic host:/cur/rent/path$ prompt style. if you're in a git repo AND the current branch is not "master", then it shows its name
<wpwrak> e.g., ws:/home/n9/ee/hw[perlify]#
<DocScrutinizer05> so 'master' is the magic branch to git checkout, after checkout of a different branch like perlify?
<wpwrak> and if you're in "detached head mode", i.e., if you've checked out a commit from somewhere in the history, then it becomes ws:/home/n9/ee/hw[(HEAD detached at a698331)]#
<DocScrutinizer05> fine. however my main concern now is how to _leave_ "detached head mode"
<wpwrak> which should serve as a clear enough warning :) (you can merrily work on a detached head, but you then risk having messy merges)
<wpwrak> yes, git checkout master brings you back to safety
<DocScrutinizer05> ta :-)
<DocScrutinizer05> btw is it expected that gitwen doesn't show your perlify branch?
<DocScrutinizer05> gitweb*
<wpwrak> it does: in the "heads" section at the bottom of https://neo900.org/git/?p=ee;a=summary
<wpwrak> so if you know that there are branches and know exactly where to look for them, you can actually find them :)
<wpwrak> needless to say, the competition is a bit more obvious there, too. e.g., https://gitlab.com/anelok/anelok/tree/master/common
<wpwrak> there it's right at the top, before the path. and you can switch without detour.
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<DocScrutinizer05> now for that perlify branch and the sortsheets alternative
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<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: ok, finally I made it to decode sortsheets.pl perl (I really hardly can read perl). Obviously a nicer or rather a more straight approach than using sed for this. One thing I fail to understand: how does it handle output and backup of output?
<DocScrutinizer05> (perl approach) I hoped for a similar solution in awk, but it turns out awk is even more twisted than perl
<DocScrutinizer05> re "ugly URLs": https://neo900.org/git/?p=ee;a=blob_plain;f=hw/sortsheets;hb=HEAD
<DocScrutinizer05> and https://neo900.org/git/?p=ee;a=blob_plain;f=hw/sortsheets.pl;hb=perlify
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<wpwrak> (output and backup) easy: it leaves it to its environment to do this :) see the changes to Makefile in https://neo900.org/git/?p=ee;a=commitdiff;h=refs/heads/perlify
<DocScrutinizer05> I see
<DocScrutinizer05> what about diagnostics when the file is e.g -w ?
<wpwrak> (urls) compare for example gitweb https://neo900.org/git/?p=ee;a=blob;f=hw/Makefile;h=b3328f83bd8b83589276bbd07280c3c85586ddd5;hb=HEAD
<wpwrak> manually edited to https://neo900.org/git/?p=ee;a=blob;f=hw/Makefile
<DocScrutinizer05> yeah, my point
<wpwrak> (gitlab.com/<group>/<project>/<mode>/<branch>/<path> nice and simple)
<DocScrutinizer05> you're free to install gitlab on our server, if you can make it behave. And with "behave" I mean it won't amplify sourcecide by factor 10 for HTML, by encapsilating every single LOC into a HTML object
<DocScrutinizer05> plus other JS nastiness it comes with
<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: i'd like to take that proposal to hellekin, since - i think - he already knows quite well how to install and tend to gitlab
<DocScrutinizer05> actually he lnows you can't get gitlab to behave
<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: well, you can try the one on devuan.org. does that work for you ?
<DocScrutinizer05> he tried and failed. with something simple like favicon
<DocScrutinizer05> no
<wpwrak> the favicon seems to be "under discussion". politics ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05> complete total fail
<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: with a reasonably modern browser ?
<DocScrutinizer05> the nastiness in gitlab is not related to the browser. It creates crap no matter which client you use
<wpwrak> well, it works with chromium. there may be "crap", but it's not the sort that would be noticeable
<DocScrutinizer05> so far Neo900.org tried to support *all* browsers. Whuch makes a lot of sense, given we build a N900 successor so we wouldn't want our prospective customers to fail browsing it with N900
<wpwrak> well, the browser is a bit of an issue indeed. it's nice if neo900.org is usable with it, but there's a lot of internet out there that isn't
<DocScrutinizer05> except for prestashop crap dos1 did an excellent job on keeping everything compatible to all browsers
<DocScrutinizer05> we won't go for a git webfrontend that says "your browser isn't supported, please use chromium>43.43 or fireforx>12345"
* DocScrutinizer05 thought those times were gone for good, after the netscape vs microsoft browserwars ended
<wpwrak> isn't the usual phrase "please use IE x.y or better" ? :)
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<DocScrutinizer05> to elaborate on nasty gitlab data amplification:
<DocScrutinizer05> <span id="LC222" class="line"> <span class="k">if</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="n">a</span><span class="o">-&gt;</span><span class="n">current</span><span class="o">-&gt;</span><span class="n">memchunk</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="n">memblock</span><span class="p">)</span></span>
<DocScrutinizer05> is what it makes from a simple >>if (a->current->memchunk.memblock)<< (https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/pulseaudio/blob/master/src/pulsecore/asyncmsgq.c#L222)
<DocScrutinizer05> honestly wtf?
<wpwrak> bandwith is cheap :)
<DocScrutinizer05> no it isn't
<DocScrutinizer05> neither bandwidth nor RAM nor rendering CPU time is any cheap
<DocScrutinizer05> well, teach gitlab to use this as default, plus allow customization (see e.g(!) favicon) and we might pinder migrating from gitweb to gitlab
<DocScrutinizer05> and even then... a simple "cd .." (browser up-arrow) to https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/pulseaudio/raw/master/src/pulsecore/ results in 404
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<DocScrutinizer05> and without Java(Script) enabled, the pages are almost unbearable. compare e.g. all icons at start of line in repo index. without, there are none, leaving you guessing if it's a dir or a file
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<wpwrak> we shouldn't depend on anything that needs electricity anyway
<DocScrutinizer05> ok
<wpwrak> of silicon, for that matter. would be a total dead end if in a universe with only 1st generation stars. hydrogen is really the only safe choice.
<DocScrutinizer05> as soon as bandwidth and resource requirements are lower when running VNC to a remote machine than when running the same thing genuinely in your local browser, something is fundamentally wrong with such website
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