* DocScrutinizer05
now wonders if that's a reason less or a reason more why we need Neo900
<DocScrutinizer05>
I'd honestly hope it's one reason less. Due to all that stuff now got worthless with disclosing it, and the company maybe going out of business
<Oksana>
Well, the governments will just invent their own in-house surveillance software. To replace the one which is out of business.
<DocScrutinizer05>
but probably it's just save to say it's one more (ex)-reason we know of
<DocScrutinizer05>
Oksana: they usually don't have the inhouse competence
<Oksana>
Hmm... They will work from the released source codes ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
except maybe for mossad, china, and NSA
<DocScrutinizer05>
even the Russians seem to hire independent hackers
<DocScrutinizer05>
IOW outsourcing
* DocScrutinizer05
ponders to 'port' rkhunter to maemo
* Oksana
notes: Since August 2014 the law requires operators of free Wi-Fi hotspots (e.g. in restaurants, libraries, cafes etc.) to collect personal details of all users and identify them using passports.
<DocScrutinizer05>
Russia is known to do such and worse
<DocScrutinizer05>
worst case the authors of unpleasant publications simply get arrested
<DocScrutinizer05>
and they're blocking websites since quite some time too, I've been told
<DocScrutinizer05>
operation mode "China"
<Oksana>
Well, in Japan most WiFi hotspots also require registration, with personal details (not sure if it includes passport number, or just name or something): http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2279.html
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<R0b0t1>
I don't have a better place to ask, so - anyone know if you can get info about a phone's modem as anyone but the carrier or tower?
<R0b0t1>
even a good guess is fine because lolgoogle
<R0b0t1>
I'm betting no
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<DocScrutinizer05>
please elaborate
<DocScrutinizer05>
which kind of info?
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<DocScrutinizer05>
in which way?
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<Wizzup>
I think he meant location
<Wizzup>
*guessing*
<DocScrutinizer05>
R0b0t1: ^^^
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<DocScrutinizer05>
location is easy. As easy as with any other transmitter. You just need 3 receivers in an enclosing triange, with a precise time base - e.g. GPS
<DocScrutinizer05>
~wiki u-tdoa
<infobot>
At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-TDOA (URL), Wikipedia explains: "'U-TDOA', or 'Uplink-Time Difference of Arrival', is a wireless location technology that relies on sensitive receivers typically located at the cell towers to determine the location of a mobile phone. U-TDOA determines location based on the time it takes a signal to travel from a mobile phone to each of the sensitive receivers called Location Measurement Units (LMUs). By usi