chadouming changed the topic of #teamhacksung-support to: TEAMHACKSUNG SUPPORT CHANNEL :: @supported :: @downloads <device> :: @changelog <device> | SmartStay Ex available now ! http://goo.gl/P4vbW | NO ETAs | DON'T PING CODY | If you have a problem, fill this first : http://goo.gl/T8W5V | If you dont like your device, sell it. -codeworkx | Everyone get https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.bbqdroid.bbqtools
<PandaUK>
just sucks because if i want to use my hdmi cable i have to revert to stockrom
<Entropy512>
Right now, Samsung is releasing SOME sort of new source in a few weeks
<Entropy512>
but whether it is actually useful is unknown
<PandaUK>
why are samsung so damn slow damn
<chadouming>
cause they can
<chadouming>
xD
<chadouming>
and being faster involve more money
<Entropy512>
and because their internal communications is a total clusterfuck
<chadouming>
haha
<chadouming>
samsung is a clusterfuck
<chadouming>
even the code
<Jiangyi>
I still wonder if that presentation guy who was running CM on his S3 was using an Intl. one or the NA one. :-P
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<chadouming>
you saw the samsung presentation at babbq ?
<Jiangyi>
Entropy512: Didn't you ask some of the questions during that Q&A? xD
<chadouming>
well, samsung showed some code at a time and it was totally fucked up
<Entropy512>
Jiangyi: yeah
<Entropy512>
Jiangyi: he was on d2att
<Jiangyi>
Ah. That'd make more sense.
<Entropy512>
and as to the code demo that failed for Hod, that's just powerpoint sucking
<Entropy512>
it nailed the Sony guy too I think
<Jiangyi>
Now if he was on i9300 and CM, maybe he'd see the problem and try a little bit harder about the source code issue...... xD
<Entropy512>
heheh
<Entropy512>
well, the people from Mobile at the BBQ do care
<Entropy512>
Hod is cool, Michael was cool, and Hyeran rocks
<Entropy512>
but there are too many douchebags throughout the rest of the company
<chadouming>
nah nah, it was samsung fault
<chadouming>
i guess it was smasung project
<chadouming>
or
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<Jiangyi>
Ah Samsung, why do you have to have so much corporate BS? :-P
<chadouming>
xD
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<Diftraku>
Wait... i9100 has tv-out?
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<Entropy512>
Diftraku: yeah, via MHL
<Entropy512>
always has
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<Entropy512>
but not in any CM firmware because all of the support is closed-source
<Entropy512>
hell, in many cases we have piles of hacks just to get the blobs not to crash
<Entropy512>
see this fun dependency of N7000 jellybean leak hwcomposer:
<Diftraku>
silly device manufacturers
<Entropy512>
_ZN7android13SecHdmiClient9blit2Hdmi
<Entropy512>
hwc wants something to provide that wacked-ass function
<Entropy512>
and if it's not provided
<Entropy512>
it won't load
<Diftraku>
it fucks up
<Entropy512>
last time someone tried to get hdmi working on galaxys2 devices
<Entropy512>
surfaceflinger crashed and burned on boot
<Diftraku>
haha
<Entropy512>
whether MHL dongle was connected or not
<Diftraku>
might be related on initializing the connecgion or shit
<Transfixer>
if between mint and ubuntu, go with mint
<Espenfjo>
+1
<Espenfjo>
Ubuntu is like Apple for linux
<cdesai>
Espenfjo: LOL
<cdesai>
elementaryos
<cdesai>
datagutt!
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<GuineaPiet>
man I shoulda checked this tab earlier
<GuineaPiet>
lol
<GuineaPiet>
Im already halfway through the download of Ubuntu
<GuineaPiet>
What desktop doth thee useth? Cinnamon looks the sexiest of the options
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<GuineaPiet>
I'll figure it out
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<iKillCypher>
hi guys why is it I cant see music effect in CM10
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<rushy>
hi
<rushy>
i didnot datawipe before reboot
<rushy>
what 2 do?
<bealtine^>
reboot and wipe if necessary
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<yomi>
Hello...
<yomi>
I just tried to flash CWM to my GT-P3113...no errors came up in Odin...but when I rebooted to check to see if CWM had replaced the stock android recovery...the stock recovery was still there.
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<Thiagovfar>
Any particular reason why device encryption is not supported on i9100, CM10?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<codeworkx>
yomi: your stock rom is replacing the recovery again
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<EgotisticalElf>
yomi: some devices auto-reflash recovery on startup, so it is imperitive that you hold the keys to reboot to recovery when ODIN flashes + reboots
<EgotisticalElf>
vol up on GS3, vol up/down on GS2, etc
<yomi>
right.
<yomi>
I'm pretty sure there's something up with the Stock ROM. it's like there's something being pushed to the tablet, but the Sync is off.
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<yomi>
dhd_dpc...
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<codeworkx>
yomi: at system/bin there should be a script called install_recovery or flash_recovery. delete that and then try again
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<yomi>
I looked, there's nothing like that in there...I got it working, but then I realized that I would have had to copied CM10 and the jb_gapps to the device.
<yomi>
or would it be a problem cause a problem if I did it like that?
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<Thiagovfar>
Since there's no answer to my initial question, here's another: How do I enable device encryption for i9100, CM10?
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<synace>
was gonna get GalaxyNoteII, but w/ codeworkx backing out of samsung development, I'm looking for an alternative. needs removable battery. am I waiting for new sony xperia?
<synace>
c6502/5/etc.
<Espenfjo>
Wait for next nexus
<synace>
Espenfjo: no removable battery
<Espenfjo>
You do not need a removable battery
<synace>
thank you for the very well thought out opinion ;) but I actually make use of my battery swapping quite often. i cycle through 3 1750mah's a day at the moment.
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<synace>
the droid maxx would be possibly good enough, but i don't want a verizon phone either
<synace>
otherwise, nexus would be good
<lolwat>
so hi
<lolwat>
my name is lolwat
<lolwat>
i just was thinking about exynos
<lolwat>
there popped up a exynos5 benchmark somewhere .... and it was increble
<synace>
Espenfjo: i could use an external charge pack, but that would just kill the internal battery even sooner ;/
<lolwat>
if samsung would release documentaiton
<lolwat>
if samsung released documentaion
<lolwat>
*
<lolwat>
it would be one of the best chips for rooters
<lolwat>
and samsung would even get more marketshare
<lolwat>
ste never played a big role in high end smartphones
<lolwat>
i wonder why?
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<synace>
any1 else aware of any good upcoming alternatives to GalaxyNoteII w/ removable battery?
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<synace>
anyone else notice this tweek is gone now? twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/260777867061911552
<synace>
"We will be opening up our sources to the developer community!"
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<Maverik>
hallo
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<Maverik>
can somebody help me with some issues?
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<yomi>
how long does it usually take CynaogenMod to boot when you first install it?
<chadouming>
a minute
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<chadouming>
then show a android is updating screen
<yomi>
welll....it's been like 5....it's just spinning it's blue wheels...
<yomi>
OH SHIT
<chadouming>
booted ?
<chadouming>
or you didnt wipe data
<yomi>
yeah, second one.
<yomi>
should I power it down? and then go into recovery?
<yomi>
and then wipe data?
<chadouming>
yes
<yomi>
okay wiped the data...rebooted...
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<Ravenheart>
great success! eh yomi
<yomi>
yeah!
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<yomi>
back button is a little weird though...
<tmaex>
hey out there! I have a problem with cyanogenmod9 while installing google play
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<duryard>
lo
<duryard>
is this the right place to ask how to return to a stock rom ?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<bealtine^>
odin
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<bealtine^>
get stock rom and flash with odin...done
<chadouming>
dont forget a step tho
<bealtine^>
flash counter?
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<chadouming>
nah
<chadouming>
you had all the step
<chadouming>
but people usually forget or omit to do some
<yomi>
like
<yomi>
me
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<tmaex>
hello again, can i ask a question, about installing Google Play?
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<bealtine^>
ask, if someone knows they'll answer
<tmaex>
okay, my problem is, that im not able to install it. Tried -> just installing GooglePlay.apk (it crashes without an alert) | -> flashing a gapp (there is no GP installed at all)
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<bealtine^>
did you flash gapps?
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<tmaex>
yes, but there was no Google Play Icon at all?
<logcat>
remove the gp you installed then flash gapps again
<logcat>
and make sure you flash the right gapps
<logcat>
goo.im/gapps
<tmaex>
okay
<tmaex>
i'll try again
<tmaex>
shold i wipe some cache?
<logcat>
not really
<tmaex>
just no Google Play Icon
<tmaex>
I downloaded the .zip -> SD-Card-Root -> Recovery Mode -> Installed zip -> Reboot ?
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<tmaex>
@logcat
<bbqbot>
tmaex: Command does not exist!
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<Xello>
@catlog
<bbqbot>
Xello: Command does not exist!
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<Jiangyi>
Guess I'll flash back to an older nightly to see what the heck is going on.
<Jiangyi>
OK, I guess I need a wipe. :-|
<Jiangyi>
Thanks for the kernel cody^^
<codeworkx>
:-D
<codeworkx>
i wiped too
<j0nnymoe>
1 more day until i9305 :D
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<codeworkx>
j0nnymoe: don't do that
<j0nnymoe>
lol
<codeworkx>
Jiangyi: still no icon xD
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<j0nnymoe>
its the only phone i want out of the selection of 4g phones i can go for
<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: :-|
<codeworkx>
j0nnymoe: if you can live with crapwiz or no cm / buggy cm
<Jiangyi>
Well, I'm more thinking about how my power control widget is gone.
<Jiangyi>
I swear, everytime CWM updates, something in my system goes missing.
<codeworkx>
hahaha
<j0nnymoe>
codeworkx, you dont think sammy will release the sources then?
<codeworkx>
j0nnymoe: not the sources we would need
<codeworkx>
j0nnymoe: only that broken dev board crap
<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: Have you got the widget on yours?
<j0nnymoe>
ah
<j0nnymoe>
tbh
<codeworkx>
Jiangyi: yes
<j0nnymoe>
from looking at my gf's sgs2 and touchwiz
<j0nnymoe>
I installed apex launcher
<Jiangyi>
OK, something wrong on my end then definitely.
<j0nnymoe>
and it seems to be ok
<codeworkx>
j0nnymoe: it's not ok
<codeworkx>
j0nnymoe: it's bloated and lagging
<j0nnymoe>
i would go for the HTC one XL
<j0nnymoe>
but cant remove the battery and no microsd
<Jiangyi>
Doesn't XL use Tegra3?
<codeworkx>
j0nnymoe: Nexus 4!
<Jiangyi>
j0nnymoe: Like I suggested last time, Xperia T? :-P
<bbqbot>
derp
<nikeaway>
whats the best android phone nowadays? S3 ?
<codeworkx>
Nexus 4
<nikeaway>
thanks
<nikeaway>
=)
<Jiangyi>
NA S3 is OK I guess. :-P
<codeworkx>
s3 is crap
<j0nnymoe>
Jiangyi, cant get that on 4g/lte
<Jiangyi>
Well, a product that's not out yet can't really be the best just yet lol
<Jiangyi>
They're starting to have LTE in the UK too?
<j0nnymoe>
yeh
<j0nnymoe>
launches this week
<j0nnymoe>
expensive
<Jiangyi>
Ah.
<j0nnymoe>
but its not in my area yet
<j0nnymoe>
but want a 4g phone ready for when I can get it
<bealtine^>
2014
<j0nnymoe>
thats when its fully implemented
<j0nnymoe>
my area should get it next year
<Jiangyi>
Well, 4G = 3G here in Canada lol
<bealtine^>
you wish
<Jiangyi>
(stupid, I know)
<j0nnymoe>
bealtine^, that in reply to me?
<bealtine^>
yep
<j0nnymoe>
ah
<j0nnymoe>
well thats what orange have told me
<j0nnymoe>
4g should be activated here -sometime- next year
<bealtine^>
EE available in a few cities,country folk can fuck off
<j0nnymoe>
lol
<bealtine^>
other make bids in 2013 and ofcom will fuck that p too
<bealtine^>
so 2014
<j0nnymoe>
tbh, wouldnt surprise me
<codeworkx>
wonder how all the samsung users will feel when they're still waiting for 4.1.1 and we're already running CM11 4.2.0 :-D
<Thracky>
you think they'll bump the codename up?
<EgotisticalElf>
codeworkx, the oblivious ones won't notice, the rest will be running CM11 with us
<codeworkx>
Jiangyi: hail i9100g
<Jiangyi>
+1 :-D
<codeworkx>
EgotisticalElf: yeah, the non exynos ones ;-)
<Jiangyi>
Think I'll miss all the CM10 features during the first few months of CM11 though :-P
<codeworkx>
Jiangyi: sure
<j0nnymoe>
bealtine^, only reason i was going for the i9305 over the i9300 is just I can get both on a free upgrade
<bealtine^>
so no cm for you and no lte either
<j0nnymoe>
lol
<j0nnymoe>
I guess I can just hope
<bealtine^>
great move;~p
<Jiangyi>
Disregard LTE, acquire CM.
<j0nnymoe>
though anything will be an upgrade from my DesireHD
<bealtine^>
lte is mostly marketing bs anyway
<Thracky>
it's still faster.
<bealtine^>
eh no
<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: Bet $5 that the CRT-off anim will still be there in CM11. :p
<Thracky>
pages load quicker on LTE for me. there's no way to dispute that in my area :P
<bealtine^>
with normal use it will be similar to 3G
<Thracky>
it's what happens.
<bealtine^>
as long as nobody else uses it
* j0nnymoe
has another look at what phones are on the current market
<Jiangyi>
Thracky: Well, NA always kinda had sucky 3G/4G compared to other places. :-|
<j0nnymoe>
damn cpw still sell the htc sensation
<Thracky>
bealtine^: I'm in a super busy area packed with high density residential, and LTE is substantially faster for me.
<Thracky>
and it's not like it just launched.
<bealtine^>
ja but how many have 4g phones?
<Thracky>
tons
<Thracky>
especially now with iphone 5
<Thracky>
apple store is a block away from here too :P
<bealtine^>
well believe what you want the specifications say it wont be faster
<bealtine^>
and i believe etsi specs more than some random guy on irc
<Thracky>
I believe real world use over some technical specs :P
<Jiangyi>
Isn't 4G = 42Mbps and LTE = 125Mbps?
<Thracky>
perception is king.
<Jiangyi>
Talking about maximum capabilities.
<bealtine^>
only in ultra perfect conditions
<logcat>
75mbps LTE
<bealtine^>
one user beside the sector
<Jiangyi>
Right, 75.
<logcat>
and you will never reach 75 mbps xD
<nikeaway>
any of you know a good task manager ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<logcat>
nikeaway: you don't use task manager
<Jiangyi>
125Mbps is D3 cable modems xD
<Jiangyi>
(Got it mixed for a sec)
<Thracky>
most LTE providers in NA average like 15 Mbps real world
<nikeaway>
why ?
<Thracky>
I get about that, and I get maybe 3 Mbps on HSPA+
<logcat>
cause android is able to manage that correctly
<bealtine^>
depends on the spectrum available and lots of other factors
<logcat>
hmm, i get 10mbps of my hspa+
<logcat>
:D
<logcat>
and i live in a fucking hole
<bealtine^>
but tomorrow will you get that?
<logcat>
yes
<Jiangyi>
China gets like 35Mbps off of their 4G TD-SCDMA network. :-|
<logcat>
that's what i get usually
<logcat>
max i reached was 14mbps
<nikeaway>
logcat: ok, thanks
<logcat>
usually get around 10
<Jiangyi>
Hence why most of the country is using that proprietary thing instead of WCDMA like the rest of the world.
<bealtine^>
wcdma sucks
<bealtine^>
thats why
<nikeaway>
logcat: its normal android with cm10 using 90% of RAM almost everytime ?
<nikeaway>
galaxy s2
<logcat>
yes
<nikeaway>
ok
<nikeaway>
nice
<Jiangyi>
bealtine^: When I say WCDMA, I mean like HSPA and stuff.
<nikeaway>
btw: tought that jelly bean would improve a lot about smoothness, but just improved a little :(
<logcat>
nikeaway: it show as used ram but it's more cached ram
<logcat>
apps are cached even when not used because free ram is wasted ram
<logcat>
so it start app way faster cause they are already in ram
<nikeaway>
good to know that
<logcat>
and if it need space, then can clean the cached apps
<logcat>
most people are like "OMG OMG OMG, android use so much ram
<logcat>
it's useless
<logcat>
i'm missing FREE RAM
<logcat>
<other idiot things>
<Jiangyi>
quoting cody: "Free RAM is wasted RAM and therefore wasted money"
<logcat>
"
<EgotisticalElf>
free ram? where? i want some!
<nikeaway>
im gonna read more about android
<bealtine^>
he means sheep
<nikeaway>
and start to develop some apps
<nikeaway>
=)
<logcat>
and that's how linux manage ram btw :P
<nikeaway>
do you know if android dev team still working on smoothness on android (compared to iOS) or they have done everything that is possible in jelly bean ?
<nikeaway>
Vsync, triple buffer, etc
<Jiangyi>
Let's face it, Google's never done lol
<nikeaway>
haha yeah, true
<Jug6ernaut>
with
<Jug6ernaut>
?
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* Jug6ernaut
attempts to interjects inself conversation hehe
<logcat>
@bomb Jug6ernaut
<bbqbot>
logcat: You are not allowed to run that command!
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<chadouming>
@bomb Jug6ernaut
<bbqbot>
Jug6ernaut, you have been challenged!
<bbqbot>
Answer (red, blue, green, orange, brown) before time runs out!
<bbqbot>
10
<bbqbot>
9
<bbqbot>
8
<bbqbot>
7
<Jug6ernaut>
blue
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<bbqbot>
Correct wire!
<bbqbot>
Bomb disarmed!
<chadouming>
i'm watching you
* Jug6ernaut
is good @ that
<chadouming>
but you can enter the conversation thenm
<chadouming>
well, android is never done
<Jug6ernaut>
any program rarely is
<Jug6ernaut>
unless its windows me
<Jug6ernaut>
in which case history tries to erase it
<nikeaway>
the difference stills strinking =(
<nikeaway>
striking
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<Jug6ernaut>
nikeaway between?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Jug6ernaut>
derp urself
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<Jiangyi>
God I remember Windows ME.
<Jiangyi>
It was pretty damn bad lol
<Jug6ernaut>
lol
<Jug6ernaut>
it was
<Jug6ernaut>
"my" first pc had win me on it
<Jug6ernaut>
good old days
<Jug6ernaut>
using BearShare to start 3 downloads of the SAME song right b4 i went to sleep, and hope that one of them finished in the morning lol
<Jiangyi>
The first PC my family got had Win95. :-P
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<Jug6ernaut>
we never had a "family" pc
<Jug6ernaut>
i had one..sisters got laptops..parents had them at work and didnt want one at home lol
<Jiangyi>
Well, I'm quite young, so.... :p
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<Jiangyi>
My dad got our first computer when I was 10 months old. xD
<hawk_>
>_>
<Jug6ernaut>
<_<
<hawk_>
inb4 I get eaten alive but
<hawk_>
just installed cm10
<hawk_>
what do I do for apps
<hawk_>
<-<
<Jug6ernaut>
>_<
<Jiangyi>
Umm.......
<bealtine^>
play store
<Jug6ernaut>
store of play
* Jiangyi
doesn't know how to answer that cuz he doesn't understand the question.....
<hawk_>
well
<hawk_>
it doesnt have google play
<hawk_>
as far as I can see
<bealtine^>
i'm just guessing...
<hawk_>
>_>
<bealtine^>
gapps then
<Jug6ernaut>
Jiangyi sarcatically :)
<Jiangyi>
lol fair enough xD
<hawk_>
just google'd
<Jug6ernaut>
its what i do anyways xD
<bealtine^>
goo.im
<hawk_>
and seeing something about that
<hawk_>
guide I used on xda didnt say thing about it
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<Jug6ernaut>
one is a program launcher, one is an OS
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<nikebot>
its not a insignificant comparison
<nikebot>
a lot of ppl dont like android becouse of its 'laggy' UI
<chadouming>
you really know why android is slow compared to IOS ?
<nikebot>
(a lot of non-hardcore users)
<nikebot>
nope
<Jug6ernaut>
chadouming i just said why
<nikebot>
(I dont really mind about this, but its nice to look at an iphone)
<Jug6ernaut>
one is a program launcher, one is an OS
<chadouming>
well, it's kinda that, but it's more deeper than that
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<nikebot>
iOS is not an OS ?
<Jug6ernaut>
chadouming ofc it is
<nikebot>
wtf ?
<Jug6ernaut>
but that is what it boils down two
<chadouming>
in ios, the priority is the user thread, while in android it's not the priority
<chadouming>
so for example, in ios, load a page on webbrowser, while it's loading, touch the screen
<chadouming>
it will be smooth
<chadouming>
but it will stop loading
<Jug6ernaut>
chadouming in ios doesnt the UI thread have priority? whre andoird...well..everythign runs on the UI
<chadouming>
while in android, it might be laggy, might be smooth but will keep loading
<Jug6ernaut>
thread*
<chadouming>
ui = user
<chadouming>
user interface xD
<Jug6ernaut>
also note that in ios shit doesnt/cant run in the background
<Jug6ernaut>
except for system functionality
<Jug6ernaut>
but thats becoming less an argument as core count increases
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<Jiangyi>
We need faster cores, not more cores. :-P
<Jug6ernaut>
no
<Jug6ernaut>
we need more efficient cores
<chadouming>
we need smaller core :D
<chadouming>
12nm ftw :D
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<Jug6ernaut>
y not go to 8
<Jug6ernaut>
:P
<Jug6ernaut>
what are mobile cores at these days?
<Jug6ernaut>
22?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Jug6ernaut>
s4pro 28
<chadouming>
22 for S4 iirc
<chadouming>
oh yeah, 28
<chadouming>
and omap 5 will be 28 too
<Jug6ernaut>
maybe google lied to me then lol
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<Jug6ernaut>
exnyos 4 is 32
<Jug6ernaut>
omap 5...
* Jug6ernaut
wants
* Jug6ernaut
wants new nexus actually
<Jug6ernaut>
sorry samsung
<chadouming>
new LG nexus ?
<chadouming>
no need to be sorry for samsung
<chadouming>
they put themself in the shit
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<Jug6ernaut>
chadouming yea, it looks to good, i was 100% sure i was getting the note 2
<Jug6ernaut>
but damn does that lg nexus look good lol
<chadouming>
lol
<chadouming>
yeah, it's imply a monster
<chadouming>
+nexius
<chadouming>
nexus*
<chadouming>
waht do you want more ?
<chadouming>
xD
<Jug6ernaut>
hahaha
<chadouming>
hmm, just learned that adreno is made by amd
<chadouming>
<3
<Jug6ernaut>
micro controllers...
<Jug6ernaut>
asm....
<Jug6ernaut>
never again...
<jedivulcan>
I saw the Galaxy Note II review on Engadget. Damn it's a nice looking phone tablet. I wish they'd done the grey color for the US Galaxy S III.