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<Xigz>
Is someone there?
<frankdrey-pc>
where?
<Xigz>
:(
<Xigz>
:)
<Xigz>
i have a problem
<Xigz>
with i9100
<Xigz>
transfer usb takes longer than normal
<Xigz>
frankdrey are you help me?
<frankdrey-pc>
maybe.
<frankdrey-pc>
doesn't sound like it's a *fixable* problem
<frankdrey-pc>
as in
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<frankdrey-pc>
it's probably just the usb port >.<
<frankdrey-pc>
or sd card is slow
<Xigz>
is memory internal
<frankdrey-pc>
have you changed anything since it was fast?
<frankdrey-pc>
ah
<Xigz>
before you got cyanogen was fast
<Xigz>
i've got
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<frankdrey-pc>
hrm, well i can't help you. could be a bug in the usb driver or something ^_^
<Xigz>
I think it is problem of rom
<frankdrey-pc>
yep
<frankdrey-pc>
the android usb driver
<Xigz>
anyone can help me than frank
<frankdrey-pc>
is what i meant
<Xigz>
i installed the usb drivers
<Xigz>
thats impossible
<frankdrey-pc>
nono, never mind, let's just say it's a bug in rom for simplicity sake
<Xigz>
then is that?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Jiangyi>
Xigz: MTP or UMS?
<Xigz>
UMS+}
<Xigz>
UMS*
<Jiangyi>
UMS is slow, it's a known problem.
<Jiangyi>
Use MTP.
<Xigz>
but if I use MPT detects pc
<Xigz>
not detects my pc
<frankdrey-pc>
then you need MTP drivers on your PC
<Xigz>
i installed dri
<Xigz>
ve
<Xigz>
drivers of samsung
<frankdrey-pc>
i don't think that's mtp
<frankdrey-pc>
mtp comes with windows media player 11 iirc
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<Jiangyi>
Finally found what the Chinese have been using. :-P
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<Tsz>
i have a question for my tab2 7.0.
<Tsz>
why tab2 7.0 will issue the heat on the left of the screen
<frankdrey-pc>
are you overclocking?
<Tsz>
i think is no
<Tsz>
the cpu frequency is aroud 300MHZ TO 1008MHZ
<Tsz>
that is overclock?!
<frankdrey-pc>
nope
<frankdrey-pc>
then idk :/
<Tsz>
what is idk
<frankdrey-pc>
i dont know
<Tsz>
=__=
<frankdrey-pc>
sorry :(
<Tsz>
i hope that someone can help me-.
<frankdrey-pc>
is it a big problem?
<frankdrey-pc>
is your hand burning?
<Tsz>
no but i am afraid that it is affect the Efficacy of my tab
<frankdrey-pc>
well, i'm pretty sure there's nothing you can do about it
<frankdrey-pc>
and it shouldn't affect effiecincy
<Tsz>
@ @
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<DarkRyoushii>
hey there - quick question
<DarkRyoushii>
I'm going to install CM10 on my friend's S2.. I thought everything would be easy but I've just been reading up (since I've moved to an S3 myself) and my gosh it's complicated
<DarkRyoushii>
am I okay to just ODIN flash CWM from the CM10 thread and then install CM10.. resulting in it running CM10 + root since root is inbuilt?
<frankdrey-pc>
that's what i did on my gtab2 but it might be different for you
<DarkRyoushii>
I just want to make sure I'm understanding it correctly, I don't need root access on a stock rom for CWM to function (wipe data, flash zip, wipe data, wipe cache) correct?
<bbqbot>
derp
<frankdrey-pc>
if you can flash CWM and get into it, you're golden for flashing ROMs
<frankdrey-pc>
in my understanding
<frankdrey-pc>
gimme a minute
<frankdrey-pc>
what model specifically?
<DarkRyoushii>
i9100
<DarkRyoushii>
international
<DarkRyoushii>
that is also my understanding, but I just don't want to screw around with downloading stock roms after boot looping their phone from a stupid mistake that's all
<frankdrey-g1>
At least update @supported? So that we have a clue on what to try?:P
<frankdrey-g1>
Can I bring in a epic bot?
<frankdrey-g1>
*can resistivecorpse
<frankdrey-g1>
:P?
<resistivecorpse>
no
<frankdrey-g1>
Where is chad to answer my bot questions
<frankdrey-g1>
D'aww
<resistivecorpse>
just because my bot is awesome doesnt mean it has to go everywhere :p
<frankdrey-g1>
Lol fine.
<resistivecorpse>
:)
<frankdrey-g1>
If we ping c*dy fast and obnoxiously enough will he build us a sidekick 4g rom?
<frankdrey-g1>
I'm putting the * because he might have it ping him :P
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<chvictor>
hello i have a question regarding the cm10 nightly build for the samsung galaxy tab2 7.0 8gb version gt p3113 i think its also called
<chvictor>
i understand you the dev team is working on various phone and etc but are their any plans to fix the tab issue with ext sd card and moving app to ext sd card, also the lack of putting the tablet into mass storage mode
<chvictor>
these problem are both on stock and in both cm9 and cm10
<frankdrey-g1>
is this an "issue" or is it just a non-feature?
<frankdrey-g1>
Because apps2ext are usually extra
<frankdrey-g1>
Basically, you want them to add features to cm
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<Tsz>
i have a question for my tab2 7.0.
<frankdrey-g1>
Oh, cool, another one
<frankdrey-g1>
:P
<Tsz>
=-=
<frankdrey-g1>
Go ahead
<frankdrey-g1>
:p
<Tsz>
why tab2 7.0 will issue the heat on the left of the screen?
<frankdrey-g1>
Ohyeah you...
<frankdrey-g1>
XD
<Tsz>
yes==
<Tsz>
..no other in here?!
<bbqbot>
derp
<Tsz>
When I am turning on the screen
<frankdrey-g1>
"Issue the heat" means its getting hot?
<Tsz>
yes
<Tsz>
only one the left of the screen
<frankdrey-g1>
>.> well we don't control your temperature
<frankdrey-g1>
That's probably where the motherboard is
<Tsz>
i think it is in the left
<frankdrey-g1>
Well, some heat is normal
<frankdrey-g1>
My tablet gets warm when I use it
<Tsz>
but on left ...it is strange
<frankdrey-g1>
Not really...
<frankdrey-g1>
My g1's motherboard is on the bottom third
<frankdrey-g1>
Not accross the whole phone
<Tsz>
you mean only the bottom third is hot?!
<frankdrey-g1>
Yep, on my G1
<Tsz>
o
<frankdrey-g1>
My tablet gets warm in one area too
<frankdrey-g1>
If yours is warmer than normal, you might have some background app that takes lots of cpu
<Tsz>
some people said that the hot will affect the Efficiency
<Tsz>
o
<Tsz>
the normal temperature is around?!
<frankdrey-g1>
I don't think it should
<frankdrey-g1>
I don't know, but I don't think its much of a problem
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<frankdrey-g1>
Samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 gt-p5113
<frankdrey-g1>
Oh
<frankdrey-g1>
>.<
<frankdrey-g1>
I'm smart...
<frankdrey-g1>
Come on...
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<frankdrey-g1>
Samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 gt-p5113
<frankdrey-g1>
Bam
<frankdrey-g1>
Got it?:P
<MacDrunk>
yup
<MacDrunk>
about to get a SGS III
<MacDrunk>
lol
<frankdrey-g1>
Nice
<frankdrey-g1>
Id like one too :D
<MacDrunk>
lol
<MacDrunk>
and perhaps a note 2
<MacDrunk>
mi girl has the note 1 and i got the SGS II
<MacDrunk>
the SGS III is all i need
* frankdrey-g1
is jealous
<frankdrey-g1>
Wanna hear my array of devices?
<bbqbot>
derp
<frankdrey-g1>
1. Sony Ericsson TM717
<frankdrey-g1>
2. G1
<frankdrey-g1>
3. Toshiba TG01
<frankdrey-g1>
4. Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
<frankdrey-g1>
5. PSP
<frankdrey-g1>
Only decent one is #
<frankdrey-g1>
4
<frankdrey-g1>
:p
<MacDrunk>
frank
<MacDrunk>
you say you were on cm only on the tab
<MacDrunk>
not the phone or both
<MacDrunk>
have you had radio signal problems
<MacDrunk>
i got some probles whit the stock cm mode
<MacDrunk>
modem
<MacDrunk>
were can i get the stock cm 9.1.0 modem
<frankdrey-g1>
My tablet is wifi only
<frankdrey-g1>
:/
<frankdrey-g1>
So don't know anything other than what google tells me :P
<frankdrey-g1>
Bai, I go do stuffs
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<MacDrunk>
hello
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<gurgle>
hey i've tried everything i can find to get wifi working on my SGSIII with CM9 & CM10 and i'm still coming up with nothing. any suggestions?
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<gurgle>
i've tried using different kernels, removing /data/.cid/info, flashing back to stock then installing CM multiple times, flashing to a different touchwiz ROM and then back to CM...
<addi>
iKillCypher: if TouchWiz is okay, then you need to get enrolled in a mental institution. Kthxbey
<xplodwild>
Let me add it
<iKillCypher>
lol touchwiz ux ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Espenfjo>
ux! haha
<xplodwild>
blub blub
<addi>
I don't know, whatever you think it is, if it's okay in your mind, then your mind is not well
<iKillCypher>
it is not okay
<iKillCypher>
I support CM :)
<addi>
That cartoon of a UI is a damn shame to Android
<iKillCypher>
anyway has anyone used C# to write apps for android?
<addi>
Good lad :p
<xplodwild>
iKillCypher: nope, I came accross a snippet once though, so I guess there's doc on google
<iKillCypher>
anyway for that memory leak in CM10
<iKillCypher>
you guys able to trace it?
<xplodwild>
iKillCypher: graphic buffers not released
<addi>
iKillCypher: I once thought TouchWiz was okay too, then i played with S3 and saw the latest iteration. Almost smashed the demonstration phone right there in the shop :P
<xplodwild>
gralloc fault
<iKillCypher>
well no offense here :( I would really help in the development
<iKillCypher>
but I dont use Java
<iKillCypher>
I use C# no offense
<xplodwild>
gurgle: still here?
<Espenfjo>
this is C/C++ anyways ;)
<gurgle>
xplodwild: yeah man, any ideas on whats up with the wifi?
<iKillCypher>
samsung should release their driver to be open source
<iKillCypher>
I heard HTC was much more kinder upon use request
<Espenfjo>
gurgle: correct
<iKillCypher>
user*
<gurgle>
thanks
<Espenfjo>
gurgle: you may have to do "adb root", and "adb remount" first
<gurgle>
cheers, thanks
<Espenfjo>
And if it doesnt work, xplodwild may have to use strncasecmp instead of strncmp ;)
<xplodwild>
Espenfjo: cody did the app originally :p
<gurgle>
xplodwild: ok so pushed it. reboot? or boot into recover & reflash?
<iKillCypher>
I really wish google dont release another android version cause then JB will become like ICS and ICS will become like GingerBread cause till today GB CM7 does not work well on SGS2
<xplodwild>
gurgle: reboot yup
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<gurgle>
xplodwild: still no wifi on reboot =(
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<iKillCypher>
project butter :D lol
<iKillCypher>
iphone is dead !!!
<xplodwild>
iKillCypher: if only
<xplodwild>
gurgle: can you type "adb shell cat /data/.cid" and see if it says "murata" ?
<iKillCypher>
anyway Im still using S2 :) lol I dont plan to change till S3 maybe by then I will see if samsung is still alive
<Espenfjo>
xplodwild: I think it may get the mac as upper case, hence your string comparison wont match
<gurgle>
xplodwild: do i need to adb root & adb remount again?
<Espenfjo>
xplodwild: Andrew did atleast make the string comparison incase-sensitive with our notes
<xplodwild>
gurgle: no
<iKillCypher>
anyway is that ugly audio fix in JellyBean where the one we received notification the audio goes does down ?
<gurgle>
xplodwild: in that case : Eva:~ nicmcr$ adb shell cat /data/.cid
<gurgle>
/data/.cid: No such file or directory
<xplodwild>
.cid.info sorry
<gurgle>
xplodwild: so adb shell cat /data/.cid.info ?
<xplodwild>
Yep
<gurgle>
same response
<iKillCypher>
xplodwild, getting Galaxy Note 2?
<iKillCypher>
I really wonder what do you guys do with all this phone other then development
<iKillCypher>
anyway I will join you guys on development ;) see ya around
* iKillCypher
AFK
<xplodwild>
iKillCypher: if people pay me one yes, else nope
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<xplodwild>
gurgle: just a sec my connection is bitching
<gurgle>
xplodwild: no worries, i appreciate the help
<xplodwild>
gurgle: try this: "adb root" then "adb shell", then "echo murata>/data/.cid.info" then reboot and see if it works
<gurgle>
xplodwild: will do
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<gurgle>
xplodwild: I FUCKING LOVE YOU
<xplodwild>
gurgle: ok now wait, let me see why it didn't write it :p
<Espenfjo>
hehe
<Espenfjo>
xplodwild: strncasecmp ;)
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<gurgle>
xplodwild: dude can i paypal you a beer or something?
<iKillCypher>
hey uh does the jellybean still have that volume bug which existed in CM9 for a long time the notification received etc ? xplodwild or code ?
<Espenfjo>
It should have been fixed
<gurgle>
xplodwild: and the push is again to /system/bin/ ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<iKillCypher>
thought it was a dirty fix
<xplodwild>
gurgle: yep
<Espenfjo>
iKillCypher: it was, but it worked
<iKillCypher>
well the last I checked it wasnt working well
<iKillCypher>
cause audio still drop
<iKillCypher>
atleast in the latest nightly version
<codeworkx>
iKillCypher: it's no android which is having the bug.
<gurgle>
xplodwild: no wifi after reboot
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<Espenfjo>
gurgle: 'adb logcat | grep macloader', wait 5-10 seconds before you ctrl+c it
<iKillCypher>
well they would why wont they? it is samsung bug yes but reporting to google would help much trust me on that :) besides they support cyangonmod and maybe apply pressure
<denver_>
@Espenfjo y is it wrong device sir? i downloaded the correct rom gt-p3100
<bbqbot>
denver_: Command does not exist!
<codeworkx>
iKillCypher: samsung can modify android like they want
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<codeworkx>
iKillCypher: except breaking compatibility with apps/play
<iKillCypher>
indeed that is why I asked you to contact android developers on this issue
<denver_>
E:Error in /sdcard/cm-10-20120904-NIGHTLY-p3100 (status 7) Installation aborted.
<xplodwild>
denver_: there are plenty on the Play Store
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<codeworkx>
Solid Explorer 4tw
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<chieftex>
guys i have a seemingly simple conundrum. I have taken my uk android phone to france, and bought a french sim with data to use the internet. However, I can't access the net at all. Where should I look?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<bealtine>
is mobile data switched on?
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<chieftex>
yes
<bealtine>
then its probably your provider
<chieftex>
i assume that is the case, but what would be a good way to proceed (short of contacting the provider)?
<bealtine>
what do you mean "proceed"?
<bealtine>
french providers are generally crap
<bealtine>
sorry to our french watchers:)
<Pulser>
APN?
<bealtine>
thats usually on the sim
<Pulser>
bealtine: nah it's not on the sim afaik
<Pulser>
android needs them in its inbuild apns-conf
<Pulser>
.xml
<bealtine>
its usually sent to you by thhe provider as a text
<chieftex>
i actually think the apn is on the sim
<chieftex>
because when i go to apns, i have a lot of choice
<chieftex>
oh wait
<chieftex>
i just read what you said
<chieftex>
hmmm
<chieftex>
so it could be built in
<Pulser>
bealtine: android phones don't usually understand those SMSs
<bealtine>
ahh ok
<bealtine>
never had a problem tho
<chieftex>
the provider did send an sms, but it didnt have data nor a link to settings
<Pulser>
unless that changed lately
<Pulser>
chieftex: nah those are from apns-conf.xml
<Pulser>
the APN is categorically not on any sim I've ever come across, otherwise Android wouldn't use a database of its own :)
<chieftex>
yes i understand
<chieftex>
this means its possible i dont have the correct apn data
<bealtine>
mine was on my sim:)
<chieftex>
how do you know?
<bealtine>
maybe i'm misunderstanding
<bealtine>
welllook up the provider on the net and the setting should be there
<chieftex>
thank you guys, im looking at all this now
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<Gabriel_>
hello
<addi>
hello
<Gabriel_>
who can help me to install cnm 10?
<addi>
the instructions and guides online can
<addi>
and Google Search can as well :p
<Gabriel_>
i must to have rooted device to install them?
<bealtine>
yes
<Gabriel_>
oo :(
<Gabriel_>
k
<Gabriel_>
i'm lazy :))
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<iKillCypher>
"The first side of the Jelly Bean update is the way it interacts with hardware. One of the main complaints with Androids is that it often gets laggy even on the most sophisticated devices. Google has finally radically addressed this so manufacturers and developers can make their devices lag-free. The solution is called Project Butter and it comes with triple buffering so that the CPU and GPU work without waiting for each oth
<iKillCypher>
er. This means scrolling, zooming and virtually all actions become much faster."
<iKillCypher>
It took them 4 MAJOR versons to fix this! Shame on you Google
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<cyberusr>
Hi guys
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<addi>
iKillCypher, exactly. Google doesn't really care much
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<iKillCypher>
addi, Im happy :) cause we win iOS in alot of ways already
<addi>
i'm happy too, just not totally happy yet. I want Android 5 :p
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<iKillCypher>
lol what so special abt it?
<bbqbot>
derp
<iKillCypher>
the project is not even out? what was does this bot keep on saying derp?
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<addi>
iKillCypher, what might be special in 5.0 is that it will be even smoother. 4.1 is nice, but still room for improvement
<iKillCypher>
yeah alot of improvement but I hope they wont release 5.0 soon enough :( till 4.1.1 is doen
<iKillCypher>
I dont understand why companys like samsung should just release the AOSP :( they add shit and screw up everything
<addi>
well, they add some useful shit too
<addi>
but yeah, shouldn't add an entire UI etc
<addi>
but it's expected. open source and free so they prefer having a unique UI and look for their devices
<addi>
that's where iOS/WP7 win, consistent experience. though otherwise those OS not for us :p
<iKillCypher>
:P
<iKillCypher>
well I still think android should have been in C#
<addi>
of course. the java and dalvik kill it :p
<iKillCypher>
crap what if Oracle wins the sue
<bealtine>
then you'd have to port the runtime to android
<iKillCypher>
android is finish
<bealtine>
and the noly bad port so far is monodroid
<addi>
I'm waiting for MeeGo, if that comes out and does well, I can say bye bye to Android
<addi>
no other OS that can replace Android though
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<addi>
Tizen might, but that is Samsung's, so no thank you :p
<addi>
btw guys, Note 10.1 and Tab 2 7.0 JB firmware leaked. begins a round of 100000 leaked firmware for each device before the official ^^
<iKillCypher>
no SGS2 :(
<addi>
SGS2 not important, recent devices are :p
<addi>
quite fast for the Note 10.1 though
<addi>
is it possible Samsung is really working faster on updates? IS IT?!
<iKillCypher>
LMAO
<iKillCypher>
SGS2 is important mate
<iKillCypher>
there are alot of peeps using SGS2 not many can afford a SGS3 and 10.1 or Note 2
<addi>
nope, Note 10.1 and Tab 2 7.0 came out much more recently, so they are more important
<addi>
Samsung doesn't care much once they've sold a device nicely ;)
<iKillCypher>
my sgs2 looks brand new ;) samsung replaced it and they did the same for the battery
<iKillCypher>
lol screw that :( I want my SGS2 update even I dont care much cause Im going to use CM10 :P Lulz
<addi>
SGS2 however good is now more than a year old, so don't expect it to get too fast an update :p
<iKillCypher>
but I wish it somehow it helps in the development
<evil-doer>
im really surprised at the recent note 1 firmware. they updated it to the newest touchwiz, and added stuff from the note2. theyve never updated touchwiz on a device before as far as i know
<iKillCypher>
dont you guys strip it apart of anything
<addi>
evil-doer, yeah
<addi>
it seems Samsung has begun to care!
<addi>
IS IT POSSIBLE?!
<iKillCypher>
they did ? evil-doer link please?
<evil-doer>
LRQ
<iKillCypher>
note and sgs2 is not bad :(
<addi>
iKillCypher, yup, SGS3 launcher is in, new apps like Gallery etc
<iKillCypher>
SGS sucks now
<addi>
even added S-Cloud
<iKillCypher>
any source :P on that mate?
<evil-doer>
i have the note, its an awesome phone
* iKillCypher
uses SGS2
<iKillCypher>
it is a awesome phone too
<iKillCypher>
brand new casing :D like I just purchase it
<addi>
SGS2 = the smoothest device ever on Gingerbread, with Samsung's firmware :D
<evil-doer>
yeah sgs2 is same internals, just smaller screen and no pen
<addi>
even on CM9 I hear SGS2 is one of the fastest
<iKillCypher>
indeed imagine project butter
<iKillCypher>
woooo
<iKillCypher>
:D
<iKillCypher>
that is why I remain on SGS2 will use it until support for it dies
<iKillCypher>
maybe I will get a new phone in 2015
<addi>
yeah, I wouldn't be upgrading from SGS2 either, haha
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<evil-doer>
i aint getting the note2
<evil-doer>
ill wait for the note3 :)
<iKillCypher>
^_^
<iKillCypher>
evil-doer, lol same idea as me
<iKillCypher>
anyway I cant wait for CM10 to be fully smooth and working nicely on SGS2
<addi>
i'm gonna get whatever Nexus device is available when my GNex stops working :p
<iKillCypher>
as of now Im using CM9 :D
<evil-doer>
even tho its tempting, it looks pretty awesome
<iKillCypher>
evil how is the note ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<iKillCypher>
using CM9?
<evil-doer>
ive never tried any cm on it yet
<iKillCypher>
stock?
<evil-doer>
yep
<iKillCypher>
ewww
<evil-doer>
the newest stock is pretty amazing
<iKillCypher>
actually cm9 is really nice and it is stable and for everyday use
<iKillCypher>
it is not man :( it sucks balls
<iKillCypher>
I still like AOSP simple and way it was design to be
<iKillCypher>
and Im really happy for CM10 and teamhacksung for bring aosp to samsung based phone
<evil-doer>
what do you mean its not? you hadnt even heard of it until i mentioned it a few minutes ago
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<evil-doer>
a new one came out like 2 days ago
<iKillCypher>
yeah touchwiz
<evil-doer>
rock solid, fast, great on battery
<iKillCypher>
ux*
<frankdrey-pc>
<DarkRyoushii> will keep that in mind, is it just heimdall flash --kernel zImage --noreboot
<frankdrey-pc>
<DarkRyoushii> ??
<frankdrey-pc>
<- Whoops :P Totally missed that yesterday
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<frankdrey-pc>
what came out 2 days ago? :D
<evil-doer>
new note stock firmware
<iKillCypher>
nothing nic
<frankdrey-pc>
oh
<iKillCypher>
sgs2 wont be far
<iKillCypher>
unless they skip for JB release
<frankdrey-pc>
tell me when something comes out for gtab2
<evil-doer>
if i had a sgs2 id probably be on cm. theres just a lot of pen stuff you throw away when going to cm
<evil-doer>
i run cm on my sgs1 which my gf is using
<frankdrey-pc>
i'll go back to stock if it runs smooth enough ^_^
<iKillCypher>
CM9 on SGS is overkill
<iKillCypher>
same with CM10
<iKillCypher>
it is deceprated
<iKillCypher>
and unsupported by samsung
<frankdrey-pc>
<iKillCypher> and unsupported by samsung <- Well, duh O_o
<evil-doer>
havent tried cm10 on it yet. waiting for it to mature a bit more
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<iKillCypher>
me too
<evil-doer>
cm9 is awesome tho
<iKillCypher>
waiting for CM10 to be mature before pumping onto SGS2
<iKillCypher>
Im on CM9 now awesome
<frankdrey-pc>
Tsz, my tablet got warm in one area yesterday :P
<frankdrey-pc>
top leftish
<Tsz>
@ @
<frankdrey-pc>
so nothing strange or bad
<frankdrey-pc>
:P
<Tsz>
nearby the sd card and sim crad?!
<frankdrey-pc>
don't have a sim card
<Tsz>
o
<frankdrey-pc>
but in the area of buttons + sd card
<iKillCypher>
the apollo why does not it have the set ringtone function?
<iKillCypher>
or the delete function?
<addi>
I don't know :p
<iKillCypher>
anyway to contact the developers of those?
<Tsz>
when the left have the heat, it will cause some problem?! such as lag?
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<Jiangyi>
iKillCypher: It does have a set ringtone function....
<iKillCypher>
oh
<iKillCypher>
hold on
<frankdrey-pc>
<Tsz> when the left have the heat, it will cause some problem?! such as lag? <- Look, it shouldn't. And if it does, nothing you can do about it except for underclock to 500 mhz xD
<iKillCypher>
it does not
<frankdrey-pc>
i dont like Apollo :T
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<iKillCypher>
oh nvm found it sorry sorry
<frankdrey-pc>
that's right, apologize >:D
<frankdrey-pc>
(lol)
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<Thracky>
Jiangyi: heh sorry I didn't come back on last night
<Jiangyi>
Thracky: It's OK. :-P
<Thracky>
and I got WAY too stoned to play before that first round
<Jiangyi>
o_O
<Thracky>
it was awful
<Jiangyi>
You do weed?
<Thracky>
yes sir
<Thracky>
once in a while anyways
<Jiangyi>
=|
<Thracky>
safer than just about any other "poison" people choose :P
<Jiangyi>
Ehhhhhhh
<Jiangyi>
=|
<Thracky>
I swore I'd never do it when I was your age too, and it's probably not something good to smoke in high school :P
<Thracky>
but like alcohol, if enjoyed responsibly, can be fun.
<chadouming>
pff, it's never something good to smoke
<Jiangyi>
I have to go with chad here.
<Thracky>
eat it then
<Thracky>
vaporize it
<Jiangyi>
Just how I was raised. :-P
<chadouming>
same here
<Thracky>
it's ok, you'll experience the world someday :P
<chadouming>
and i saw many friend fall in drugs
<chadouming>
and dont want to go that way
<Thracky>
this whole weed is a gateway drug is bs
<Thracky>
I have no interest in even trying anything else
<Thracky>
never have never will
<chadouming>
if you want to do it, too bad, i wont tell you all the time stop it bla bla bla, but dont try to show me the good side and we wont have problem
<Thracky>
and during school, I smoke maybe twice a month tops
<Thracky>
only to help my brain turn off, otherwise I don't sleep.
<Jiangyi>
chad: +1
<Thracky>
It's ok, you guys buy the propaganda and I'm not going to try and change your minds :P
<Thracky>
whatever they teach in school and whatever the government tells you MUST be true.
<Thracky>
and parents are always right.
<Jiangyi>
lol
<chadouming>
haha
<chadouming>
nah, parents always right
<chadouming>
specially in math xD
<Jiangyi>
Dude, I come from China. I know that those things aren't true. :-P
<Jiangyi>
Except the parents part.
<chadouming>
haha
<Thracky>
do you even know why weed is illegal?
<nebkat>
Thracky: idiot
<Thracky>
how prohibition started?
<Thracky>
nebkat: wat
<chadouming>
cause they want to make more money out of ut
<chadouming>
it*
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<Jiangyi>
I was in a gaming clan which had quite a bit of members who smoked weed. :-|
<Thracky>
make it 19 or 21 years old to buy it
<Jiangyi>
They were cool guys though.
<Thracky>
and stop putting kids in jail for fucking pot.
<Thracky>
and turning them into hardened criminals.
<Thracky>
because that's what jail does.
<nebkat>
yeah, so everyone would smoke it and get their brainz derped
<nebkat>
jail isnt the answer yeah
<Thracky>
people are going to smoke it, legally or not.
<nebkat>
but smoking weed shouldnt be legal
<nebkat>
Thracky: much less if its illegal
<Thracky>
then neither should alcohol or cigarettes
<Jiangyi>
Whoa wtf
<Jiangyi>
This Chinese webdisk thing that I have just gave me an additional 100GB. O_O
<nebkat>
Thracky: cigarettes should be banned
<Thracky>
if you want your argument about criminal organizations to stand, making it illegal is not the option.
<nebkat>
fucking hate them
<nebkat>
every time I got to take a piss in the bathrooms I feel sick from the smoke
<Thracky>
I agree, but people will still smoke them regardless.
<Thracky>
same as weed
<Thracky>
same as any drug
<nebkat>
yeah but
<Thracky>
as soon as you make it illegal
<nebkat>
im sure most people would really consider getting into smoking cigarrettes if they knew it was illegal
<Thracky>
criminal enterprises take over.
<nebkat>
when its legal its just like "cool lets try smoking"
<Thracky>
when do most people start smoking
<nebkat>
obviously
<Jiangyi>
Well, we all have different views on this.
<Thracky>
at what age do people start smoking cigarettes?
<Thracky>
generally
<Jiangyi>
Making cigarettes illegal probably wouldn't work. =\
<Thracky>
does anyone in their 20's START smoking?
<nebkat>
Thracky: average in ireland is 16
<nebkat>
or something
<Thracky>
exactly.
<nebkat>
Thracky: sure
<Thracky>
it's not even LEGAL at 16.
<nebkat>
yeah
<nebkat>
but its legal to get 'em
<Thracky>
so legality is a moot point.
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<Thracky>
kids can get weed easier than alcohol or cigarettes around here.
<chadouming>
legaly is the worst point to bring in xD<
<chadouming>
legality*
<Thracky>
exactly, because laws are made by people, who are influenced by other people :P
<Thracky>
who all have their own motives.
<Thracky>
some laws are just, some are not.
<Thracky>
it's just the way it goes.
<Jiangyi>
True.
<nebkat>
Thracky: you think the heavier drugs should also be legal
<Thracky>
not "legal" no
<Jiangyi>
Hell, I still think we should be able to own guns for self-defense here.
<nebkat>
question mark*
<Thracky>
but I don't think you should be thrown in jail for being an addict.
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: nah
<nebkat>
Thracky: you shouldn
<Jiangyi>
nebkat: Why not?
<Thracky>
if you decriminalize it, and put all that money you're wasting on jail into treatment research and centers...
<Thracky>
then you can actually help the addicts.
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: there are way more gun attacks in US than countries with them not legal
<nebkat>
because any maniac can get a gun
<Jiangyi>
nebkat: Look at the towns in US where everyone is legally required to own a gun.
<Thracky>
I don't think anyone should model anything after the US.
<Jiangyi>
Crime rates are damn low there.
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: so what you are saying is
<chadouming>
Thracky +1
<Espenfjo>
lol
<chadouming>
and why would you need a gun here in canada ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<nebkat>
to "solve" crime, you should allow anyone to have a gun
<frankdrey-pc>
hey, let's have some fun with this here drug that has caused many people to become addicted and ruin their lives and health :D
<frankdrey-pc>
(sarcasm)
<nebkat>
and im pretty sure the innocent people wouldnt all be carrying guns everywhere they go
<frankdrey-pc>
*the stupidity of weed*
<Thracky>
lol you actually think people people chemically dependent on weed?
<Thracky>
-people
<Thracky>
+become
<Jiangyi>
nebkat: If you were a robber, would you attack a guy who's unarmed or a guy who is armed? :-P
<Thracky>
there's no scientific basis for that whatsoever.
<Espenfjo>
Thracky: However, the science says that people doing weed are way more likely to start with other substances
<nebkat>
Thracky: there is that it does shit to your brain :P
<nebkat>
Espenfjo: yes
<Thracky>
citations please.
<Thracky>
I don't take your word for it :P
<Thracky>
sorry
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: dude, not everyone would carry a gone
<nebkat>
robber would carry a gone
<Thracky>
academic papers, not random google results.
<Jiangyi>
Yeah, but I'd rather have the option of being able to. :-P
<nebkat>
notice the gone :P
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: it wouldnt solve anything?
<nebkat>
you'd just have more people dead
<Thracky>
if you look at teens who start smoking weed from a young age, usually they are using it as a coping mechanism to deal with some issue in their life.
<Thracky>
and instead of dealing with it, they continue to mask it with other things.
<Thracky>
but really, they could have become addicted to anything that was offered to them.
<Thracky>
the gatway drug theory is absolutely ridiculous because it never looks at other factors in the subject's life.
<Thracky>
*gateway
<nebkat>
Thracky: no, they smoke it cus its fun :P
<Jiangyi>
nebkat: Just having a gun deters criminals. :-P
<Thracky>
guns don't solve shit.
<Thracky>
gun crimes in canada are relatively non existent compared to the US.
<Thracky>
anyways, I once thought as you all did, then I actually tried it, and understood that it's not harmful in moderation, like anything.
<chadouming>
true
<chadouming>
but it doesnt really exist anywhere compared to us
<Jiangyi>
That's a fair point, but people who own guns should at least be allowed to use their gun for self-defense in their own house, shouldn't they?
<Thracky>
it gives people the option of "claiming" self defense
<Jiangyi>
There's this guy who got charged by the police for firing warning shots at home intruders! :-P
<chadouming>
true
<Thracky>
I mean really, is killing a dude really necessary?
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<chadouming>
LOL
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<Thracky>
let him loot your shit, call the cops after, deal with it that way.
<chadouming>
skyblue is listening to tennis
<Thracky>
insurance covers your stuff.
<Thracky>
but it's better than having killed someone on your conscience for the rest of your life.
<Jiangyi>
What about a rapist then? o_O
<Thracky>
I can't say I know of many rape cases involving B&E
<chadouming>
lol, who the fuck is enough stupid to rape someone with a gun ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Thracky>
again, you can't make law and policy based on a few outlying circumstances.
<Thracky>
this is how we wind up with police states
<Thracky>
govern through fear by making a big deal out of something so rare.
<Thracky>
like serial killers.
<Thracky>
there's about 50 active serial killers in the USA, which if put on a big headline would make you freak out.
<Thracky>
bu if you compare that to the 300+ million peoplein the USA, that's not much.
<Thracky>
an absolutely miniscule number of people
<chadouming>
true, but it's the kind of things thaqt make people want to vote for bush xD
<Thracky>
yeah because they have zero understanding of how media works and who influences it.
<chadouming>
yup
<Thracky>
and most people don't care to learn or question anything.
<Thracky>
(which is why people think weed is so bad :P)
<chadouming>
yup, stupid, but happy
<nebkat>
dude, weed isnt a good thing
<Jiangyi>
At the end of the day, it's all different PoV stuff :P
<chieftex>
^
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<chieftex>
end of conversation
<chieftex>
shall we move on :)
<chadouming>
that's also why they vote for people like bush, or harper here. Cause these persons tell the people : Don't worry about anything. You don't have to think, we will do that for you. Now get back to your happy life
<nebkat>
chieftex: only I, say that :P
<Thracky>
point of view based on propaganda just means you're wrong. sorry, but it's true :P
<nebkat>
what propaganda?
* chieftex
fails
<nebkat>
smoking weed is bad
<nebkat>
it does shit to your brain
<Thracky>
like what?
<chadouming>
lol, that's cultural discussion here chieftex, it's great for people mind
<nebkat>
and has high chance of getting you involved in other drugs
<Thracky>
you're just spewing the same shit they've fed to you
<nebkat>
Thracky: long-term memory loss
<Jiangyi>
Thracky: You may just be the exception. :-P
<nebkat>
or short-term
<nebkat>
forgot which one
<Thracky>
OMG U MUST DO WEED
<Thracky>
YOUR MEMORY IS BAD
<nebkat>
higher chance of getting various diseases
<Thracky>
so basically, you're just making shit up.
<nebkat>
Thracky: no
<Thracky>
If you actually gave me some citations here maybe I'd listen. but you spout the same ignorant stuff you've been taught to spout.
<nebkat>
higher chance of getting schizofrenia
<nebkat>
ph*
<UndrWater>
this argument is just like the global warming one...both sides have reams of "science" they throw at each other
<Thracky>
I would like to see some academic papers.
<nebkat>
Thracky: oh idk, search yourself
<Thracky>
let's see about.com's sources.
<evil-doer>
some chemicals in weed actually fight cancer
<UndrWater>
Thracky: at the bottom of that article there are some references
<nebkat>
UndrWater: im trying to make my point that smoking weed is bad for you
<Thracky>
ok so two studies from archives of internal medicine.
<Thracky>
one from U of Washington
<UndrWater>
nebkat: so is using the internet...again, why do you care?
<Thracky>
two from national drug policy outfits (propaganda)
<Thracky>
Let's go look at who funded those other studies if we can...
<chadouming>
pretty hard to make research on that since it's illegal
<Thracky>
chadouming: exactly.
<UndrWater>
:D
<nebkat>
Thracky: why would they be so against it if it wasnt bad for you at all?
<nebkat>
they'd legalise and earn taxes
<Thracky>
nebkat: go watch some documentaries.
<chadouming>
anything that might prove the governement is disaprove since it's illegal
<Thracky>
there's like 10 of them about that very subject.
<Thracky>
the union
<Thracky>
grass
<UndrWater>
according to apple, android is bad for you...
<nebkat>
ugh whatever
<nebkat>
pointless wasting time on this
<evil-doer>
prisons make money. they want more prisoners
<Thracky>
nebkat: see you refuse to learn. you're not interested in a discussion because society has taught you everything you need to know about it.
<nebkat>
evil-doer: taxes make more
<evil-doer>
they are private now
<evil-doer>
many
<UndrWater>
nebkat: i agree with that statement...but it's a good point to follow through
<Thracky>
you're also perfectly trained not to question what you've been taught.
<Thracky>
so they're doing their jobs correctly.
<Thracky>
brilliant stuff
<nebkat>
Thracky: and what makes you be more correct?
<Thracky>
I may or may not be more correct, but I've at least LOOKED at both sides
<nebkat>
just my argument that it gets you involved with other drugs is good enough
<nebkat>
I still dont see what _your_ side is
<Thracky>
your argument has scientific evidence on both sides.
<UndrWater>
nebkat: there is no hard evidence even of that
<evil-doer>
ya and milk leads you to alcohol because every alcoholic drank milk first
<nebkat>
UndrWater: yeah, but its pretty obvious
<Thracky>
there's been studies that say the gateway drug theory is only valid in areas where pot is illegal.
<Thracky>
how is it "obvious"
<UndrWater>
nebkat: "pretty obvious" is not an argument
<Thracky>
that's the worst logic I've ever heard.
<nebkat>
getting involved with illegal drugs (in this case weed) gives you higher chance of finding other drugs
<Thracky>
lol
<evil-doer>
so that means it should be legal
<Thracky>
that is called a slippery slope.
<Thracky>
logical fallacy
<UndrWater>
nebkat: it seems like a slam dunk, but read both sides of the research and you'll find it's not so black and white
<Thracky>
^^
<Thracky>
this is my point, blindly accepting what the government/society tells you to believe is silly. Do some research on both sides and maybe you'll learn something, even if it doesn't change your "side"
<UndrWater>
nebkat: just because ideas seem to "make sense", it does not necessarily make them true
<Thracky>
as I said, there are two great documentaries regarding the history of weed prohibition.
<Thracky>
the union, and grass
<nebkat>
but what makes it good?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Thracky>
nebkat: is everything you eat good for you?
<chadouming>
lol, i'm listening woman us open and i'm pretty sure if anyone pass near my window, he will think i'm listenning to porn x
<chadouming>
d
<chadouming>
D
<Jiangyi>
lol
<UndrWater>
nebkat: in this argument, we can't think in terms of "good" and "bad", because those are value judgements
<Thracky>
you never eat fast food, drink alcohol, red meat, refined sugars and flours?
<Thracky>
high fructose corn syrup?
<Thracky>
those are all proven to be quite bad for you.
<evil-doer>
whats wrong with red meat :P
<Thracky>
evil-doer: well it depends on where you get it from :P
<chadouming>
nah, i take my wheat to the windmill my self :D
<Thracky>
it's not as bad if it's grass fed
<evil-doer>
ive heard its only bad if you over cook it
<evil-doer>
can create carcinogens
<UndrWater>
it's only good if you don't cook it :)
<Thracky>
red meat itself isn't that terrible for you, but it's all dependent on how they are fed/raised
<Thracky>
either way, banning something because it's not "good" for you, even if it's not particularly bad, would be silly.
<chadouming>
well, might not be that good too since it has higher risk to have bacteries
<chadouming>
lol, soda is way more damagable for you than anything else
<UndrWater>
nebkat: anyway, it's always good to be a skeptic....don't believe what you read automatically, take time to look at at least a few other arguments
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<evil-doer>
android is bad for you. jelly beans, ice cream sandwiches, etc
<chadouming>
lol
<Jiangyi>
lol
<nebkat>
hh whatever
<UndrWater>
steve's ghost agrees
<nebkat>
hmk*
<Thracky>
sitting at a computer for long periods of time is very unhealthy
<Thracky>
but it's legal.
<bealtine>
downloading music from the internet kills small babies...fact
<Thracky>
people have died from it.
<Jiangyi>
I'm probably killing my eyes right this very moment.
<Thracky>
we should outlaw computers.
<nebkat>
and im sure nobody has died from weed
<Thracky>
directly, no
<Thracky>
you can't overdose on it
<Thracky>
do people do stupid things on it? sure.
<Thracky>
people do stupid things without drugs.
<evil-doer>
cars are far more dangerous, should those be banned?
<Jiangyi>
I think I'll go do my math homework. :-P
<bealtine>
beer is dangerous too...ban that
<Thracky>
you would do math homework on a saturday.
<Jiangyi>
Another Asian stereotype?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Thracky>
I need to do some Java and SQL, just to refresh myself since I didn't do any during the summer.
<Thracky>
Jiangyi: never :P
* Jiangyi
rolls eyes
<Jiangyi>
Whatever, it's dead easy.
<Thracky>
it should be, first week back at school.
<chadouming>
i do SQL daily
<chadouming>
and java, well, i dont like it xxD
<UndrWater>
SQL is bad for your health
<bealtine>
select * from chadouming
<Thracky>
I just learned it in the winter semester last year, and I didn't touch SQL all summer
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<Thracky>
so I'm a bit fuzzy, mostly just on table creation tbh
<bealtine>
sql is easy a pie
<Thracky>
select statements are easy
<UndrWater>
everyone is doing it!!
<UndrWater>
c'mon!
<UndrWater>
if you don't do sql, you're not cool
<Thracky>
Java I'm pretty solid with still but I just need to do a few exercises to get my groove back :P
<bealtine>
its when you dont understand its a set based language not a declarative one
<chadouming>
DECLARE @Whatever TABLE(name varchar(max), age int, sexe CHAR)
<bealtine>
then th problems occur
<chadouming>
this is how you create a table :D
<chadouming>
temporary tho
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<nebkat>
select * from idiottes
<Thracky>
no records found.
<chadouming>
xD
<UndrWater>
:D
<chadouming>
well, don't do that on XDA DB
<chadouming>
XDA users DB xD *
<bealtine>
drop table xda
<chadouming>
wont do muych
<bealtine>
they'll just fill it up again:)
<chadouming>
select TOP 1 (idiotte) from XDA_Users -> return netchip :D
<bealtine>
its like the special olympics of people there
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<UndrWater>
watched that first part of Grass...when the women were undressing and running into the water, and i was thinking..."what's wrong with that?"
<Thracky>
lol
<Thracky>
UndrWater: see the problem is getting people to actually watch things like that :P
<UndrWater>
Thracky: well...you can tell them there's nekkid women in that video
<UndrWater>
first full nudity i've seen on youtube
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<cloud>
hiho, i've got a problem with cm and other aokp roms.... if i use one, i dont get my wifi working. it's trying to establish a connection, then stops and tries again few secs later... the wifi signal is worse than on a samsung rom. it doesnt work, even if i have a very high signal... with sgs3. ty
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