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<ibrahima>
you can always remove the asserts from the updater-script by unzipping the file and looking in META-INF/com/something for the file updater-script
<ibrahima>
sorry dont remeber the exact path
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<addi>
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<Sniper404>
ok, just installed 4.1 on my gt-9100g but seems to be stuck on boot, any ideas?
<archanN>
codeworkx: would love to know more about the project, i am interested.. :) thanks!
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<gordon320>
hi :)
<gordon320>
anyone can help me?
<addi>
don't ask if anyone can help you. ask what it is you need help with then wait for someone to answer
<addi>
this isn't a call center and hence there is no one actually sitting around to help you :p
<cdesai>
addi: lol
<addi>
xD
<Espenfjo>
Sayes the two indian guys
<cdesai>
Espenfjo: :D
<Espenfjo>
heh, sayes.. That was a new one..
<cdesai>
@google sayes
<bbqbot>
SA YES | San Antonio Youth Education Scholarships - http://sayes.org/
<Espenfjo>
Exactly what I had in mind
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<Espenfjo>
A San Antonio Youth Education Scholarship for the Indian call center people
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<Espenfjo>
aww
<Espenfjo>
blah
<Espenfjo>
XDA sometimes wanna make me cry
<Espenfjo>
The insane level of ignorance and stupidity
<cadroguett>
anyone knows how to pic a mp3 as a ringtone in cm10?
<cdesai>
use apollo
<cadroguett>
is it apollo the default player in jellybean? or just in cm10?
<addi>
Espenfjo, that scholarship still won't get you Indian guys with good english answering your calls :p
<cdesai>
cm, 9 and 10
<addi>
cdesai, hum call karte hai domestic mein toh achcha bhala bolte hai sab. sirf international mein hi kyon ghatiya angrezi waale baithte hai? goro ke khilaaf saazish? :p
<cdesai>
addi: idhar ghatiya hindi wale baithte hain
<addi>
of course, Gujarat hai :p
<archanN>
addi: haha, sahi bola mere bhai. ;) aise hi hota hai
<addi>
yaha saale Marathi mein bolne lagte hai even though main Hindi select karta hoon :p
<addi>
and the best part? i say "Hindi please" they say okay and start in Hindi. then they say hold for 2 minutes, come back and forget I said "Hindi please" and start in Marathi again U_U
<Espenfjo>
bah
<Espenfjo>
Google translate doenst understand you
<cdesai>
Espenfjo: obviously, we typed hindi in english
<cdesai>
hinglish
<addi>
Espenfjo, what I'm basically saying is that "they only seem to have guys with bad English there for answering calls from other countries. like a plot against them" :p
<addi>
the ones answering domestic calls speak it well mostly
<cdesai>
but the guys answering domestic calls don't speak well in our languages
<cdesai>
languages cos we have tons here
<addi>
but they do speak the language of the state they are in pretty well :p
<cdesai>
ye
<cdesai>
Pulser: have fun reading this when you're here :D
<addi>
my friend got a job in a call center in Bangalore, and he missed his pickup the first day because the cab driver didn't understand Hindi xD
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<cadroguett>
hi.. maybe anyone know i was trying to putr the post it.apk which is the samsung post it widget u know by copying in the app folder.. but its doesnt work
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<Espenfjo>
heh
<Espenfjo>
no..
<Espenfjo>
It probably depends on TouchWiz
<Espenfjo>
Everything they create depends on TouchWiz
<Espenfjo>
TouchWiz is not just the launcher, but it is cancer that goes even deep down in the framework on Android
<Espenfjo>
So these cancerous growths (post it) depends on the rest of the cancer to survive
<Espenfjo>
thank god
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<cadroguett>
so i need a replacement... any recomendations?
<bealtine>
a replacement for what?
<Espenfjo>
I am sure the play store has a post it app or two
<addi>
Espenfjo, and I hate people who say "just change the launcher and TouchWiz is gone" xD
<Espenfjo>
addi: shoot them
<addi>
"I don't like TouchWiz". "bro, just use another launcher". "no you noob, screw you" :P
<cadroguett>
the thing is that ive just chenged to cm-10-20120902-UNOFFICIAL-i9100 and works ok so ill start to use it as daily driver.. but i need to replace a few app that came with the samsung rom
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<Sniper404>
i have an i9100g with 4.1.1 and am wondering if they is any way to change fonts?
<Sniper404>
like color and style.
<Espenfjo>
You can theme it atleast
<Sniper404>
ok how do i do that?
<Espenfjo>
Download a theme from the play store, and then Settings -> Themes
<addi>
use ROM Toolbox to change font
<Sniper404>
cool i have romtoolbox pro
<Sniper404>
many thanks rebootin phone now :)
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<Treveo>
Sorry for asking again, is Dutch spell check now in CM10 for Galaxy S2?
<Espenfjo>
dunno
<cdesai>
check that yourself Treveo ?
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<Yappy>
hi guys
<Yappy>
any SGS3 CM9 devs around?
<Yappy>
oh well, maybe it applies to all CM9s, i dunno
<Yappy>
found something that, i guess, "crashes" Settings
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<codeworkx>
cm9 devs are gone away. only cm10 devs left
<pw>
:)
<Yappy>
haha
<Yappy>
oh well, i have to go real soon, so i'll just leave a brief summary here
<Yappy>
basically, if you go to settings -> More... -> Mobile networks -> Access point names -> Menu button -> Reset to default
<Yappy>
it takes forever to restore, then crashes
<Yappy>
but i think it restores it anyway
<Yappy>
i am off :D
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<EvilBelgian>
Does anyone know of any roms for the Galaxy ace
<addi>
there are quite in a few in its XDA forums ;)
<addi>
though I just let my sis use her Ace on stock, too much trouble to install another ROM on it :P
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<EvilBelgian>
It's a friend he just got an android phone
<EvilBelgian>
I wanna get him off touchwiz before it taints the experience too much for him
<EvilBelgian>
it's not an ace though it's an ace plus which is even harder to find roms for
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<EvilBelgian>
but I found something
<addi>
oh noes, Plus variants of devices = hard time finding ROMs, haha
<Jiangyi>
Not sure if my phone's wifi's acting up, or my router. o.o
<bealtine>
or interferance?
<Thracky>
probably your router
<Jiangyi>
Kinda weird that it's disconnecting and reconnecting the next second.
<bealtine>
not really
<bealtine>
check for other strong signals in your area specially on the same channel
<Jiangyi>
There's only 2 guys with wifi on this street, and they're like 200m away lol
<Jiangyi>
2 other guys*
* Jiangyi
was bored and took phone with wifi analyzer for a walk xD
<bealtine>
right:)
<Jiangyi>
Anyways, it seemed to have stopped now.
<Jiangyi>
:-P
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<jerusalem>
hi all , i want to ask you why there is no more update for sgs2 cm10 since 21 8 2012 ?!
<jerusalem>
hi all , i want to ask you why there is no more update for sgs2 cm10 since 21 8 2012 ?!
<bbqbot>
derp
<jerusalem>
?
<bealtine>
its not ready
<jerusalem>
is there any release coming ?
<bealtine>
when its ready
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<enasuico18>
hi
<jerusalem>
when :P ?
<bealtine>
when its ready
<enasuico18>
anyone available to answer some questions? :)
<enasuico18>
does either cm9 or cm10 support ntfs?
<bbqbot>
derp
<bealtine>
eh?
<bealtine>
how do you mean "support" ?
<enasuico18>
like reading it
<enasuico18>
on the tab 2
<bealtine>
i use ES File explorer
<enasuico18>
let me rephrase the question: does cm9 or cm10 have the ability to enable reading NTFS on micro sd?
<bealtine>
works for what I want
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<bealtine>
try it and see...
<enasuico18>
ok
<enasuico18>
i will try it now
<enasuico18>
thanks
<bealtine>
if it doesnt just mount the sdcard on your pc and share it out
<enasuico18>
nope
<enasuico18>
cant locate the micro sd
<bealtine>
10 will get you a reader
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<enasuico18>
huh?
<bealtine>
10 shekels
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<enasuico18>
ah... kies
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<Thracky>
this conversation confuses me.
<bealtine>
heh why?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Thracky>
because I didn't read it entirely :P
<Thracky>
just bits and pieces
<addi>
noob :P
<bealtine>
i'm saying an sdcard reader is really cheap for the pc
<bealtine>
< 10 bits of paper
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<addi>
kalpik,
<addi>
kalpik,
<addi>
kalpik,
<chadouming>
addi
<chadouming>
addi
<chadouming>
addi
<chadouming>
addi
<chadouming>
addi
<addi>
chadouming, <3
<chadouming>
@dood addi
<addi>
chadouming, <3
<bbqbot>
addi: what up dood
<addi>
chadouming,
<addi>
whats up dood
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<addi>
so, one of my friend's family found out about her bf a few months back, and now she's not allowed to get a job outside her city, even if it means sitting at home (which she is currently doing). stupid Indian parents and weak-willed children -.-
<chadouming>
hmm, your story misses some information
<chadouming>
so you mnea she had a bf wen she should not ?
<addi>
yes
<chadouming>
ah
<chadouming>
ok, nevermiond first comment then
<addi>
:D
<chadouming>
well, she will be forced to marry a rich buyer from it's father anyway
<addi>
nope, she has warned against all that shit by saying she'll run away or do something worse :p
<addi>
though not sure how long that warning is gonna last :|
<chadouming>
well, forget what i said, she will be killed
<addi>
her bf just started working, so can't exactly run away with him just yet. maybe later.. -.-
<addi>
nah, her family ain't that bad. not an Arab family where you must kill daughter for eloping :p
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<Yappy>
if i wanted to suggest a feature, where would be the best place?
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<enasuico18>
eer, how can you make the tab 2 read a ntfs micro sd?
<Kaik541>
you don't
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<Yappy>
i have an amazing idea for CM9
<enasuico18>
really?
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<Yappy>
well, it's not big
<Yappy>
but it's handy
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<enasuico18>
even by putting a custom kernel?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<Yappy>
just wondering where to toss this suggestion in
<Kaik541>
enasuico18: android isn't set up to handle NTFS disks and NTFS belongs to microsoft... ntfs support *could* be compiled for android, but android wouldn't really know how to deal with it in any meaningful way
<Kaik541>
besides you have fat32 support, and soon ext4 support, why would you need ntfs?
<enasuico18>
then how can i make my tab read ext4?
<enasuico18>
i need to watch movies on my tab
<enasuico18>
and FAT32 is messing with the transfer
<enasuico18>
already tried using ntfs mount and such
<bealtine>
"Clearly, one is a toy, for kids to amuse themselves with and show off to their friends. The blue one however, looks like a good educational tool"
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<Loof>
For some reason when I flashed CM10 I ended up with a 512MB system/data partition
<Loof>
I tried setting the partition to 4G using devil kernel (had it handy... the std. CM10 recovery didn't have partition options) and reflashing... but no change
<Loof>
Not quite sure how to fix this
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<frankdrey-tab>
Eh
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<frankdrey-tab>
Might as well stick around while it downloads
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<Loof>
Hmmm, according to a few forum posts the system and data partitions are swapped (no more datadata is something I was looking forward to... I always turned it off in any case)
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<djbaker>
@nebkat I think i'm missing a step somewhere in installing Cyanogen
<bbqbot>
djbaker: Command does not exist!
<Loof>
Well, I'll be back in a bit... if anyone can let me know how to fix the small /data parition that would be great... the phone auto-installed my prior apps and is -already- out of space
<nebkat>
djbaker: TANK U FOR CONTACTING TECKNICAL SUPPORT SIR
<nebkat>
I WILL CONTACT MY SALES REPRESENTATIVE TO ASSIST YOU FURTHER
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<djbaker>
okay
<nebkat>
datagutt: ASSISTANCE REQUIRED
<bealtine>
hi i'm the sales representutiv fur you area
<datagutt>
HAVE YOU BOUGHT OUR SUPPORT PACKAGE?
<bealtine>
problem what have you
<nebkat>
bealtine: TOO UN-INDIAN!
<datagutt>
ITS IS ONLY 99$ A MONTH
<nebkat>
+4$ SHIPPING
<bealtine>
44 dollah
<Loof>
I'm curious, just what did he say that prompted you to be rude?
<datagutt>
DJBAKER PLEASE WAIT WAIHL WE SEND YOU TO SALES GUY I IZ ONLY MARKETING
<datagutt>
PLEASE HOLD THE LINE
<Loof>
This _IS_ the -support channel... not the dev. channel
<datagutt>
YOU ARE NUMBER 10 IN LINE
<datagutt>
AND IIIIIII, I WILL ALWAYS LOOOOOOOOVEEEE YOU
<bealtine>
this call is charged at 25c per minute
<nebkat>
bealtine: $25*
<djbaker>
I have cynogen and siyah i'm trying to install I rooted my phone and i'm in system recovery now when i try to apply updates from sdcard it says E:Failed to verify whole-file signature
<djbaker>
i figured you guys may be able to help since it seems like i'm somehow missing a step
<xplodwild>
well if you're around Paris on October 13th, come see me :D
<bealtine>
Paris is not in the plan
<xplodwild>
the talk will be recorded and uploaded anyway
<xplodwild>
and I heard there might even be a livestream
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<bealtine>
will tune in:)
<xplodwild>
will tweet about it when it'll be the time anyway
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<Loof>
Ok, anyone have a fix for increasing the size of the 512MB /data partition /w CM10 on Captivate?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Jiangyi>
xplodwild: OMG I can actually understand the French there xD
<xplodwild>
Loof: don't fiddle with the partitions
<xplodwild>
Jiangyi: :D
<Jiangyi>
Speaking of French, school starts tomorrow. D-:
<xplodwild>
I start on the 17th :(
<Jiangyi>
French will murder me.
<Jiangyi>
=|
<xplodwild>
I will murder you.
<Jiangyi>
....
<Jiangyi>
D-:
<bealtine>
xplodwild: just folloed you:)
<frankdrey-tab>
school starts on the 24 for me ;)
<Jiangyi>
xplodwild is more scary than French.
<xplodwild>
@8ball am I more scary than French?
<bbqbot>
Better not tell you now.
<xplodwild>
@8ball am I more scary than French?
<bbqbot>
Cannot predict now.
<Jiangyi>
Well, then again, xplod is French, so French is more scary than French......
<xplodwild>
damn you stupid bot
<xplodwild>
@8ball am I more scary than French?
<bbqbot>
My reply is no.
<xplodwild>
bbqbot is always right
<xplodwild>
@8ball am I lovely?
<bbqbot>
My sources say no.
<xplodwild>
@8ball am I very lovely?
<bbqbot>
Cannot predict now.
<xplodwild>
@8ball am I very lovely?
<bbqbot>
My sources say no.
<Thracky>
i start tomorrow too
<xplodwild>
I think it's broken.
<Thracky>
but only 1 class from 12-3 :P
<xplodwild>
I have the stupidest day of my life tomorrow
<Thracky>
and it'll probably go an hour at most
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<xplodwild>
I'm going to spend 2x 2 hours in the train, to go to my apartment, just to plug my damn router
<xplodwild>
back and forth in one afternoon
<Thracky>
lol
<Thracky>
that sucks.
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<xplodwild>
but that's the cost to make sure I have an internet connection when I get back to school :D
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<xplodwild>
because it's broken currently, no signal on the line
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<Loof>
xplodwild: Ok, not really wanting to 'fiddle' with anything... 512MB for /data isn't sufficient for me and it wasn't how things were set up before... so how do I change it persistently?
<Loof>
I wouldn't want to have to change every nightly I upgrade to
<xplodwild>
Hmm I haven't followed exactly that discussion about captivate partitions, but I think there are two partition schemes available for this device
<xplodwild>
you can't resize as you wish anyway,
<xplodwild>
now read XDA carefully, it's probably written somewhere
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<Loof>
xplodwild: I'd looked at the issue list and looked on google... people complaining about /data and /system being swapped... but no clear reason for things being 'bad'
<Loof>
Why wouldn't we want /cache and maybe /swap on the movinand and /data (and clearly /system) on teh SD
<Loof>
datadata was much smaller than 512M... it was a crappy solution, but at least managable with datafix
<Loof>
The problem is that I've got a few apps that have a LARGE install footprint
<Loof>
300M crap like that
<Loof>
So I can't even install them and then move to S
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<Loof>
SD
<Loof>
Also, if 'move to SD' is a viable solution... why not have /data on the SD side regardless?
<Loof>
I'm struggling to understand why this was a viable solution.
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<chadouming>
Dont you think that if it was easy as : let's have data on sd instead it wouldnt be the case ?
<chadouming>
There is reason things happen
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<chadouming>
Go read a bit
<Loof>
chadouming: I'm doing exactly that right now... Where was /data for CM9?
<Loof>
datadata was clearly in the NAND area
<chadouming>
Idk, i dont have captivate and when i was on my sgs 1 i was on cm6 then cm7
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<Loof>
According to everything I can find it talks about a NAND that's PonP /w the processor, which is the 16GB
<Loof>
that 16G NAND is partitioned into system & 'usb' space
<Loof>
and 512MB ram
<Loof>
I'm not entirely clear what his 512MB of 'movinand' is yet
<Loof>
I've read a couple dozen links on google trying to find out
<frankdrey-tab>
the RAM is on the NAND? O_o
<frankdrey-tab>
that's impossible...
<frankdrey-tab>
and if it really is, that is stupid
<frankdrey-tab>
the point of RAM is to load stuff into a place where it can be accessed faster
<Loof>
frankdrey-tab: No, 512MB DDR Ram
<frankdrey-tab>
what's the point if the NAND is the same.
<frankdrey-tab>
okay :P
<Loof>
16g NAND
<frankdrey-tab>
i was about to say...
<Loof>
and there's a '512MB' magic special memory /data partition
<Loof>
that's what the CM10 'issue' is on this platform
<Loof>
I'm not sure what the heck they're talking about
<frankdrey-tab>
ah
<Loof>
Basically the discussion is that /data -must- be on the 512MB special memory to prevent lag
<frankdrey-tab>
ohey, it's the problem with it not booting because it can't mount the partition?
<bbqbot>
derp
<frankdrey-tab>
or, nvm
<frankdrey-tab>
because some guy in #android-root had a problem like that
<Loof>
So we're limited to 512MB of memory to install apps into
<Loof>
Thus if we've got a couple of these beastly games or even firefox, etc which have large install footprints
<Loof>
you can't install the app in order to migrate to SD
<Loof>
or you have to migrate MOST of your apps into SD
<Loof>
If SD is the 'way to go' and it's all one big NAND anyways... I'm not sure what the issue is with paritioning things differently
<frankdrey-tab>
so basically most of the NAND is partitioned as an SD card?
<Loof>
you used to be able to partition a system part. + ext parition /w 512MB - 4G for system
<chadouming>
Sadly, like i said earlier, it's not how it work
<frankdrey-tab>
because on the gtab2, it seems to be smart about it
<Thracky>
jesus, those new CM t-shirts cost 20 bucks to ship to Canada.
<frankdrey-tab>
i have an sdcard partition
<Thracky>
that seems a bit steep.
<frankdrey-tab>
and a data partition for apps
<Loof>
chadouming: Yes, you said that... please point me at a whitepaper or wiki to explain this... I've googled and can't find any reference to movinand on our platform
<frankdrey-tab>
and neither is fixed
<frankdrey-tab>
at least as far as i know
<Loof>
only onenand (which is the entire bank, and slower but it's what we have)
<chadouming>
Movinand is simply onboard ram
<chadouming>
You know like sideport memory for amd onboard gpu
<frankdrey-tab>
wait...so it's on the nand?
<frankdrey-tab>
not ddr?
<frankdrey-tab>
movinand?
<Loof>
frankdrey-tab: Yes, we've got one bank of 16G nand attached to the processor
<chadouming>
Are you reading or not
<Loof>
512MB of DDR ram to actually run things in
<chadouming>
Frankdrey
<chadouming>
And that 512mb is onboard i.
<Loof>
chadouming: Captivate uses OneNAND not Movi... but it doesn't matter
<chadouming>
N a place called movienand
<chadouming>
Yeah, same shit newer tech
<chadouming>
I'm on my phone so dont asm tk
<frankdrey-tab>
and you're saying movinand is more ram...
<Loof>
Ok, i9000 spec sheet actualyl looks different
<frankdrey-tab>
[16:33] (Loof) I'm not entirely clear what his 512MB of 'movinand' is yet <- this is where my confusion began :P
<frankdrey-tab>
i thought you meant it was a partition on the nand used as ram
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<Loof>
Ok, according to XDA about vibrant... another i9k platform, so theoretically the same...
<chadouming>
oh, and tbra
<chadouming>
Thracky*
<Loof>
we've got 16G of 'flash' (non-NAND), 512MB on board NAND (flash) and 512MB DDR
<chadouming>
Regarding that comment of you
<chadouming>
Fu
<Loof>
the DDR is split.. and thus some is taken up by graphics, etc... so we never have 512MB available to us
<Loof>
and the on board NAND is where we're running apps... to avoid lag
<chadouming>
That's normal
<Loof>
this USED to be the /datadata parition
<chadouming>
Like swap
<Loof>
which has tools (datafix) for managing it
<Loof>
chadouming: Nothing like swap
<chadouming>
That
<chadouming>
Make no sense
<Loof>
What we -should- be doing is caching onto the 512MB, maybe adoption a symlink approach to using it
<chadouming>
what you are saying
<Loof>
Not forcing all apps to fit there
<chadouming>
You have ram but run app on disk space is stupid
<Loof>
No, not talking about ram vs not
<Loof>
this is not about ram at all
<frankdrey-tab>
no he meant /data/app is there
<chadouming>
Moving to home right now, give me 20mins
<Loof>
512MB ram... nothing to do with the discussion
<Loof>
that's where apps run regardless
<Loof>
it's used by graphics, so that's not even all available to the OS
<Loof>
but that's the way it's built
<Loof>
nothing to do about it
<frankdrey-tab>
512mb nand is /data/app ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Loof>
then in FLASH we've got 2 things
<Loof>
512MB + 16G
<Loof>
right now /data is the 512MB block
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<Loof>
16G is paritioned into /system (and /cache, etc) and what goes into /mnt/sdcard
<frankdrey-tab>
that's not very smart :P
<Loof>
CM9 had a hack... /data was on the 16G... /datadata was on the 512MB along with something else
<frankdrey-tab>
samsung's decision?:P
<Loof>
thus anything in /datadata was 'fast'
<Loof>
anything in /data was 'slow'
<frankdrey-tab>
symlink should be sufficient
<Loof>
I actually opted to have no datadata... because the slight amount of lag was less annoying than having to manually manage installs
<frankdrey-tab>
stick dalvik-cache and other cache on 512 mb
<Loof>
then datafix came around and I used that for a couple of releases
<Loof>
frankdrey-tab: Or even just have a totally different scheme... not use the 512MB directly... have a /fastdata and symlink important libs/apks into it
<Loof>
Thus you get to pick which is important to you... gmail is something you use all the time... use something like datafix to 'move' it into the fastdata
<Loof>
it's trivial to implement
<frankdrey-tab>
sure
<Loof>
already supported by android easily
<frankdrey-tab>
do it :P
<Loof>
and avoids all of this mess
<Loof>
frankdrey-tab: I've got a full time job and twin boys... I barely have time to flash a new rom, much less code
<frankdrey-tab>
it doesn't take any coding
<frankdrey-tab>
some simple commands from terminal
<Loof>
frankdrey-tab: It'll take switching around the install script... and adding some scripts to init.d to manage the symlinks
<frankdrey-tab>
sure, that's not /too/ difficult
<Loof>
frankdrey-tab: Maybe modifying or implementing something like datafix in order to allow non-tech users to manage it
<Loof>
not too difficult at all
<frankdrey-tab>
i'd do it if i had your phone :P
<frankdrey-tab>
screw the non-tech users xD
<frankdrey-tab>
but yeah, if you don't have time, i guess...you don't have time :P
<Loof>
Heck, having this conversation is already causing friction as my wife has called me upstairs twice :)