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<anthropy> is BTRFS known to cause quirks with Sandstorm? is it better to use LVM+XFS/EXT4/etc or doesn't it matter
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<dwrensha> I don't know of any quirks, but I've never tried it.
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<TimMc> anthropy: Debian stable (8) certainly works fine for me.
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<patrickod> is there a survey => ethercalc pipeline that's easily used?
<afuentes> can you export csv?
<patrickod> I believe so. I have not however played with this and importing into existing ethercalc docs
<patrickod> also it'd be unworkable for the survey export to overwrite other additional state that's stored per-row in the ethercalc.
<patrickod> I may need to play a good deal further to see what the current workflow looks like
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<kodb> hi guys. can anyone help a noob with setup issues?
<TimMc> kodb: This is a good place to ask!
<kodb> great. I just installed in a clean ubuntu 14.04 server instance. I am able to access the url at xxxx:6080. When I try to bring up wekan all i get is the spinner going and going. Any ideas where I should start?
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<TimMc> What URL are you using to access it? Are you using a sandcats URL, or just localhost?
<TimMc> Sandstorm's web security model relies heavily on separating apps (and grains) out by subdomain, so you need wildcard DNS involved. Sandstorm offers a domain and even SSL certs for free, but if you don't want to use that you'll have to set up your own DNS and stuff.
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<TimMc> (I'm not a project member, just a user, so if you hang around someone with more knowledge on this may have better info.)
<afuentes> im getting these warming, but none of these files exist: http://paste.debian.net/906058/
<TimMc> So for example, I have an etherpad grain that I access at https://timmc.sandcats.io:6443/grain/E8Qk92PNvPdpovW2iNEW7c but under the covers it's being loaded from https://134a792176ad9e06ee5e05028dbd0154.timmc.sandcats.io:6443/p/main -- so you need some way to serve wildcard DNS.
<TimMc> afuentes: I get those too, FWIW. It doesn't appear to cause any trouble... :-/
<afuentes> TimMc, I see, im tracking down another issue and im just trying to clean up things that might be a problem :)
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<afuentes> I dont understand whats happened to my tt-rss... it keeps reloading all the time. sandstorm.log and the grain log doesnt show anything
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<afuentes> where else can I see whats happening?
<afuentes> I manage to captured this before the reload http://storage3.static.itmages.com/i/17/0102/h_1483386636_5695770_bb64ab1f0a.png
<afuentes> its so fast that sometimes it doesnt even show up
<afuentes> i cant even see the error in tt-rss log
<dwrensha> afuentes: do you happen to be using firefox?
<afuentes> dwrensha, yes
<dwrensha> yeah, I've seen the same behavior
<dwrensha> I tried with a bunch of browsers, and only Firefox in MacOS would cause it to happen
<afuentes> Okay, I tried chromium and it works
<afuentes> firefox in debian here
<afuentes> firefox 50.1.0-1
<dwrensha> kentonv and asheesh have talked other who have seen similar behavior
<dwrensha> I think their conclusion was that it's a cookie problem
<dwrensha> and if you manually clear the right cookie then the problem goes away
<dwrensha> ... but I have not tried doing so
<afuentes> I remember having some problem with cookie monster and sandstorm, so I created a new firefox profile without the addon
<dwrensha> and it would presumably require you to clear that cookie every time you opened the grain
<afuentes> I will clear all cookies and reload
<afuentes> well, its been working great for a long time... today it stopped for some reason
<dwrensha> did you just update firefox?
<dwrensha> do you see the same problem if you create a new tinytinyrss grain?
<afuentes> dwrensha, well, i removed all the cookies just to be sure
<afuentes> and it works in firefox again :)
<afuentes> i tryed to close the grain (click on the X next to the name) and reopen it, and it works again :)
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<dwrensha> what
<dwrensha> that's perplexing
<dwrensha> but I'm glad it works for you
<afuentes> dwrensha, if you want me to do some other debugging, just tell me, but this seems to be working fine now :)
<dwrensha> thanks. I can reproduce the problem here, so no need
<afuentes> :D
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<afuentes> this is great... Ive been trying to debug this on my own for at least 5hours now... I asked here when I had given up
<afuentes> removing all cookies... who would had thought :P
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<kodb> sorry guys I got called away: TimMc : I am using a Class c 192.xxx.xxx.xxx url within our office lan. DNS is being served by our old "PDC" which is a 2008R2 box. The sandstorm conf file defines the wildcard subdomains but I am not sure how to serve this.
<kodb> Anyone else that can chime in as well; this noob will take any help I can get!
<TimMc> kodb: Ah, so this is going to be an intranet-only thing?
<TimMc> I don't know much about setting up DNS, but you'd need a way to have *.your.sandstorm.domain resolve to the IP of that box.
<TimMc> That link I posted earlier has some details.
<kodb> so my office lan is setup behind a Cisco ASA appliance and I may ultimately open it up beyond but because it is healthcare we need to control/be hippa compliant so restricting to intranet is current plan
<kodb> I tried to add an A record to the dns and this doesn't work. I will check out the link you just sent. Stand by
<TimMc> Hmmm, xip.io is not responding...
<TimMc> there it goes
<TimMc> (Interesting, they allow public IPs now too.)
<kodb> ok so I added another A record and did some pinging and digging and all of a sudden the wildcards are working. I now have wekkan up!
<kodb> so next question for all: do I need a secure login token everytime or is there a way to use passwords?
<dwrensha> kodb: I guess you are using email login? your browser should cache the login state, so you should only rarely need to go through the email flow.
<dwrensha> also, SAML and LDAP offer password-based login, and are available in Sandstorm for Work
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<TimMc> Is there a way to allow people to sign up and become Users without admin action?
<TimMc> I'd prefer to be notified of new account creations andlet it be self-serve, rather than having to tell friends "OK, you can go sign up, but then you need to let me know, and then I can promote your account, and then you can play around".
<kodb> how long does it cache or is that something I need to set in the browser?
<dwrensha> kodb: I think it automatically gets cleared every few months. I don't think it's configurable in the browser.
<dwrensha> well, you could configure "don't remember any cookies or local storage" to have it not cache at all
<kodb> ok I will need to look at; does sandstorm use cookies?
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<dwrensha> yes, Sandstorm uses cookies
<dwrensha> I don't remember whether the login token itself is cookie or lives in localStorage
<kodb> ok let me look around chrome and see if I can configure
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<kodb> dwrenshaw: for Wekkan is there a manual or doc so I can see how to configure the lists on a board. I am interested in creating a gridlike view so I can see about 8 lists on one screen. also, is there a way to switch or drag cards between boards?
<dwrensha> there's no way to drag between boards
<kodb> ok.
<kodb> what about wekan docs? I don't see anything on github
<dwrensha> maybe try asking about it in https://gitter.im/wekan/wekan ?
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<kodb> hey thank you! will do so
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