asheesh changed the topic of #sandstorm to: Welcome to #sandstorm: home of all things sandstorm.io. Say hi! | Channel glossary: "i,i" means "I have no point, I just want to say". b == thumbs up. | Public logs at https://botbot.me/freenode/sandstorm/ & http://logbot.g0v.tw/channel/sandstorm/today
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<Nolski> I have an idea for an awesome new grain that I'm sure everyone on sandstorm would love
<asheesh> nolski++
<asheesh> You should package that sucka
<Nolski> so many sandstorm things to do, so little time :)
<asheesh> (-:
<Nolski> I think packaging that thing made it to the top of my sandstorm things to do list though
<asheesh> Yeah fair enough (-: but mostly you should do whatever seems like actual fun to you!
<asheesh> Yay!
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<msoucy> dag10 is also a very friendly upstream - the only caveat is that he doesn't really plan to work on it much anymore, BUT he'll still look at/merge pull requests if they happen
<msoucy> (I went to school with him, and asked him that question at one point)
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<jadewang> this looks neat: http://b2evolution.net/
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<mrdomino> asheesh: is https://docs.sandstorm.io/en/latest/administering/email/ up to date for setting up incoming smtp (for roundcube in my case)?
<mrdomino> nolski: yes please
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<asheesh> mrdomino: Yes, I believe it is.
<asheesh> I don't personally use that configuration yet, though, on rose.sandcats.io, so I haven't personally tested it.
<mrdomino> ok, what's up with the ssl certificates?
<asheesh> It's not very useful.
<asheesh> I believe jparyani wrote that config (?) and that it helps people set up inbound SMTPS which is not really a thing.
<asheesh> So ignore the port 465 stuff IMHO.
<mrdomino> right on
<asheesh> What I would do instead honestly is do a TCP proxy so port 25 goes to localhost:30025 and call it a day.
<asheesh> It'd be cool if Sandstorm supported inbound SMTP STARTTLS, I do suppose.
<asheesh> But you can get away with not having that, if you want.
<asheesh> What I would much prefer is if, like HTTPS_PORT in sandstorm.conf, there were an SMTP_PORT config option.
<mrdomino> yeah that'd be kinda cool
<mrdomino> what's the roadblock to it?
<asheesh> I haven't dug into that and will wander off for a while, so ping jparyani probably for future help. Have to attempt to solve some Mystery Hunt mysteries.
<mrdomino> right on
<asheesh> Time and prioritization; shouldn't be super hard; requires a little C++ code and a little JS code, but not much I think.
<mrdomino> yeah ok. prioritization's a bitch :)
<asheesh> The way a lot of things should work IMHO is that we should find people to declare they want things, and then implement them if so.
<asheesh> If you and Andrew Wansley both want it, then maybe that bumps it up (-:
<mrdomino> i want it a bit. i also semi want to try it as a way into the sandstorm code but i am running a bigger free time deficit than normal
<mrdomino> i'd be mildly into smtp starttls but i sorta like rawdogging it as a reminder that i should really be using gpg
<asheesh> OK going AFK for more puzzles for a while! Email if you need me; might be some delay.
<jparyani> mrdomino: setting SMTP_LISTEN_PORT in sandstorm.conf should work right now. Sorry it's undocumented :)
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