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Will ruby ever catch up to e.g. python?
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dostoyevsky: Python 2 or Python 3?
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dostoyevsky: Isn't Ruby already beyond caught up unless you group the two? ;P
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havenwood: more to things like pytorch/tensorflow/tf, sklearn, gensim, sympy
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dostoyevsky: I wouldn't spend much time worrying about popularity between the top ten languages. That said, if you need something specific, use the language it's best implemented in.
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dostoyevsky: Right tool for the job, and so on.
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havenwood: I think python already made all the unicode changes in 1.9 that python did for migration to 3
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s/python/ruby/
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dostoyevsky: That doesn't keep half the users of the language from using exclusively Python 2, unfortunately,
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dostoyevsky: We'll see if formal EoL helps, but I fear it'll more just for the Python community. We'll see!
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dostoyevsky: In any case, Matz is determined for that not to happen with Ruby 3. :)
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havenwood: yeah, I think just EOLing a language like python now is doing is a big mistake... and maybe people start looking for other scripting languages again... I just miss ruby
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dostoyevsky: What'd ya stop Ruby for?
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dostoyevsky: Ruby never went away. It just got popular enough not to be cool. You can still use it.
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havenwood: I didn't really stop with ruby, still use it.. but mostly in places where you would use shell scripts...
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dostoyevsky: I use shell scripts where I'd use shell scripts. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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dostoyevsky: What do you wish you were using Ruby for?
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I often will start with ruby, and then dump stuff into json... which I load from python to run some statistical algorithms, or use one of those other fancy python libraries...
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dostoyevsky: Python is popular with data science. There are a variety of Ruby options on that front but Python has more broadly used libs in that particular area.
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dostoyevsky: You can use TS, SciRuby, etc, but they don't get as much love since far fewer folk use Ruby for that particular task.
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yeah, I can't even imagine how much work it would be to have something like numpy in ruby...
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TruffleRuby also interops very nicely without speed penalty.
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dostoyevsky: You can just use Numpy from Ruby, which is easier.
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dostoyevsky: It's nice that these days you can more and more cleanly use libraries across languages. :)
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dostoyevsky: That way you can use the language you'd like, regardless of what the library you need was written in.
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dostoyevsky: Yeah, there are lots of ways to get at Numpy from Ruby these days.
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Has anyone used ruby with apache spark?
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