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<adam12> baweaver: DateTime is so pecular. I just had a discussion with a Jr about it. It has strange nuances.
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<leftylink> hi, what I miss
<leftylink> ok
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<wbnns> Hello. I have an array that contains 3 objects: https://dpaste.de/RZyj#
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<wbnns> How do I write a method that deletes an object based on the "type" that is in the array?
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<Frankenstein> @candies.delete_if { |candy| candy.type == "Snickers" }
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<wbnns> @Frankenstein Ah... thank you so much! Was stumbling so hard on this. :)
<Frankenstein> np
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<wbnns> @Frankenstein Why is it that "delete_if" resolves the issue but @candies.delete("Snickers") doesn't?
<wbnns> (was trying variants of the latter)
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<Frankenstein> because "Snickers" != #<Candy:0x00007fd31f97e970 @type="Snickers", @sugar=100>
<wbnns> @Frankenstein And "delete_if" singles out the object in the array based on type, whereas "delete" does not?
<Frankenstein> it passes each item to the block, then you just test the blocks type
<Frankenstein> erm, the items type*
<Frankenstein> { |candy| candy.type == "Snickers" }
<wbnns> Ok, understood. Thanks again.
<Frankenstein> it doesn't care about the objects at all, just what the block returns (true, delete the object, otherwise keep it)
<Frankenstein> sure thing
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<wbnns> Ok, yeah.
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<leitz> Anyone know of a really good ERB tutorial?
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<Haris> hello all
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<Haris> I installed bundler. I have two versions of bundler. one is local version. How do I remove one and keep the other?
<Haris> the older version is local version
<Haris> for ruby 2.6.3
<Haris> bundler (2.0.2, 1.17.3)
<Haris> Installed at (2.0.2): /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.6.3
<Haris> (1.17.3, default): /usr/local/rvm/rubies/ruby-2.6.3/lib/ruby/gems/2.6.0
<ellcs> gem uninstall bundler -v <version-number>
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<Haris> # gem uninstall bundler -v 1.17.3
<Haris> Gem 'bundler' is not installed
<Haris> its almost funny
<Haris> gem info bundler shows both. gem uninstall or gem cleanup says they'r not there
<Haris> installed ruby through rvm
<Haris> ruby 2.6.3
<jhass> might be that you cannot
<jhass> why do you want to remove it? I thought the newever version would take precedence anyway
<jhass> (cannot because of the way RVM installed it for you or so)
<Haris> both are now set as default
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<Haris> redmine needs newer version
<Haris> it may be looking at old version with ruby 2.6.3
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<Haris> Installed at (2.0.2, default): /usr/local/rvm/rubies/ruby-2.6.3/lib/ruby/gems/2.6.0
<Haris> (1.17.3, default): /usr/local/rvm/rubies/ruby-2.6.3/lib/ruby/gems/2.6.0
<Haris> You must use Bundler 2 or greater with this lockfile. (Bundler::LockfileError)
<jhass> weird, bundle -v returns the old one then?
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<jhass> maybe try bundle _2.0.2_ exec/install
<cek> > 2.3 / 0.1
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<cek> >> 2.3 / 0.1
<ruby[bot]> cek: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
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<cek> who's gonna tell me what's up with simple FP operations. No, I get the precision difficulties, but couldn't simple ops be optimized into Integer fields or something like that?
<jhass> and behave different than any other language?
<jhass> also probably a lot slower because it requires a couple of conversions rather than just going to the FPU directly
<cek> `echo '2.3/0.1' | bc` is able to work it out
<cek> not sure what's the scale used
<cek> or are you suggesting my cpu's fpu is wrong? It can't have that big prec error on floats
<jhass> bc is probably not using it
<jhass> to be correct
<cek> we need to make ruby great again
<jhass> &>> 2.3r/0.1r
<rubydoc> # => (23/1) (https://carc.in/#/r/7vq8)
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<jhass> https://floating-point-gui.de/ looks like a fair resource
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<jhass> just missing Rational for ruby
<cek> ok, it's great again. Didn't know of rational existence. I'm wondering what's special about dividend being >1 < 7
<cek> &>> 7.3/0.1
<rubydoc> # => 73.0 (https://carc.in/#/r/7vq9)
<cek> &>> 0.3/0.1
<rubydoc> # => 2.9999999999999996 (https://carc.in/#/r/7vqa)
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<jhass> nothing, it's just combinations
<jhass> 0.23 probably can't be exactly represented in IEEE floating points
<jhass> totally worth to read up on them, how they work, what trade-offs they make
<cek> or just use integers. thanks.
<jhass> &>> "%.100f" % 0.23
<rubydoc> # => "0.2300000000000000099920072216264088638126850128173828125000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000" (https://carc.in/#/r/7vqb)
<jhass> you see 0.23 is not actually 0.23
<cek> wow
<jhass> it's a value very close to it
<jhass> so while 23.0 is a representable, given 0.23 is not 0.23 but someething close it it, it ends up being 22.99...
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<jhass> to make things worse in that example 0.1 is not even 0.1 either
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<jhass> a simple way out of this in case you have a specific precision that you need to adhere, say for example two digits in the case of money, a good strategy is to convert to integers by (float * 1e2).floor as early as possible after input and convert back with "%.2f" % (value / 1e2) as late as possible before output, where 2 is the precision in the examples
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<jhass> usually you have a unit name you can use to make this more obvious. Dollars vs cents, Gram vs Nanogram etc
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<Intelo> Hi
<Intelo> Is there any bad effect doing RAILS_ENV=production bundle exec rails console on productin?
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<havenwood> Intelo: Nope, nothing bad there, depending on what you type in the console of course.
<Intelo> what can be typed that goes bad?
<havenwood> Intelo: From the console you can nuke all your data, etc.
<havenwood> Intelo: You might consider running in sandbox mode to rollback database modifications when you leave console.
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<havenwood> Intelo: -s. --sandbox
<havenwood> bin/rails c -e production -s
<havenwood> bbin rails console --environment=production --sandbox
<havenwood> I mean
<havenwood> bin/rails console --environment=production --sandbox
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<havenwood> Intelo: That ^ doing the same thing, using Rails' binstub and option flags.
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<Intelo> hm
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<Intelo> where can I learn all the rails stuff/
<havenwood> Intelo: I'd go through the Rails documentation first, since it's nicely done.
<Intelo> hm
<havenwood> Then either grab a book that digs deeper or start working or pairing on a Rails app.
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<havenwood> (I guess you're already working on one, so on the path!)
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<Intelo> thanks
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<ctOS> Hi. I’m looking at a Heisenbug. Any idea why a file could trigger an Errno::ENOENT from File.mtime when executed right after File.exists that returns true? The file in question is a file that doesn’t chage, move, and isn’t modified in any way. It just sits there. Bug goes away when testing with strace, of course.
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<havenwood> ctOS: why the #to_s for one and not the other?
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<ctOS> havenwood: I have no idea. that’s in Rake and not my code. I’ve tried removing the .to_s but it makes no difference.
<adam12> ctOS: What OS and filesystem? Is it a network filesystem?
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<ctOS> adam12: linux, ext4, all local
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<ctOS> my Rakefile contains Rake::FileList["src/*.md"], right. Running `strace rake` and it always works. Running just `rake` ad it fails almost every time with Errno::ENOENT inside rake on line 23 as linked above.
<adam12> ctOS: Ruby version? It's definitely an odd bug.
<ctOS> It fails less often with `rake --trace`, which to me suggests a timing issue.
<ctOS> adam12: ruby 2.6.3p62 (2019-04-16 revision 67580) [x86_64-linux] (as distributed by Fedora)
<adam12> ctOS: Definitely sounds like a timing issue but not sure why it would be an issue when the file isn't being created.
<adam12> ctOS: Any mount flags on the partition you're running this on? Can you rereate it on a pure-memory backed disk (tmpfs or something?)
<ctOS> adam12: here’s another weird thing. The problem goes away if I change from a relative to a full path.
<ctOS> Which suggests … uhm … madness, I guess?
<ctOS> mount flags are "defaults" (not sure what those are, though)
<havenwood> ctOS: Both #exist? and #mtime are using the same, age old code: rb_stat(fname, &st) < 0)
<ctOS> adam12: copied the project to a tmpfs partition and same thing happens.
<adam12> ctOS: My only other idea would be to build that version of ruby from source and see if it's the same. Maybe it's a patch from the vendor that we don't know about?
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<adam12> ctOS: Well I'm miffed.
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<ctOS> I modified line 24 from File.exists?(name) to File.exists?(name)&&File.mtime(name). It still fails on line 23. All that happens there is File.mtime(name).
<ctOS> Thanks for all your help guys. Looks like what I need is an exorcist
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<ctOS> *line 22
<havenwood> ctOS: Normally I wouldn't suggest exceptions for flow control, but... https://gist.github.com/havenwood/d01c0873928057b25fc2a1cb1af532f4
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<ctOS> havenwood: I looped `rake` 500 times with that code and everything worked just fine. No weird errors about missing files. I suspect Rake won’t accept it as a patch, though.
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<adam12> ctOS: How many files match that src/*.md glob? Lots?
<havenwood> From `man 2 stat`: ENOENT A component of pathname does not exist or is a dangling symbolic link.
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<ctOS> This all happens in the middle of Rake::FileList['src/*.md']. It checks like 50 files in the src/ directory and then fails on a random file.
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<havenwood> ctOS: Any symbolic links involved?
<ctOS> havenwood: none whatsoever. no weirdness with moving files, renaming things, deleting and recreating, or anything like that.
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<ctOS> The src/ dir just contains some static text files.
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<ctOS> I’ve looped over `rake` 500 times now. It fails 80% of the time. I’ve got no idea why it works 20% of the time. It works 100% of the time if I run `strace rake`. `strace` shouldn’t have any effect other than possibly delaying the I/O a bit.
<ctOS> it fails 45% of the time when running with `rake --trace`. Not sure what trace does here other than delaying things fractionally as it prints more to stdout.
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<ytti> ctOS, this is not uncommon
<ytti> ctOS, you have some race condition
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<ytti> ctOS, even the strace fixes is very common
<ytti> frustrading, but common
<ctOS> ytti: it’s probably a race-condition but I don’t even know who the contestants are
<ytti> ctOS, might even be kernel issue
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<ctOS> ytti: that seems more and more likely. I moved everything to an USB HDD (to introduce more latency) and it works just fine. An nvme m2 ssd may not have been a good investment after all.
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<ytti> i once had freebsd kernel issue causing ruby to break with some socket stuff
<ytti> but at least it broke deterministically
<ytti> so was far easier to troubleshoot
<ytti> those 'oh strace fixed it' issues are infuriating
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<ctOS> Ok, "progress": The underlying problem seems to be that the working directory sometimes changes mid-function, and the files have relative paths
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<ctOS> by mid-function, I mean that it’s changes from one puts to the other here: https://dpaste.de/nZwg
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<ctOS> Oh. The cwd is changed hundreds of times per minute looking for "gems.rb" and "Gemfile".
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<ctOS> FIXED!
<ctOS> `touch Gemfile` in my project (creating an empty file) and the problem goes away completely.
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<ctOS> So, … uhm. In which project does this bug belong? What uses chdir ../ to look for Gemfiles?
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<Synthead> I want to use rubocop in a ruby script. Can I just require rubocop and run rubocop from class instances? seems a little silly to shell out, being that it's a ruby script
<ytti> ctOS, i'd still be curious what the problem is
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<ytti> Synthead, looks like it's not exactly supported
<ytti> Synthead, but require the bits, and call Runner.net(opts, config).run(target)
<ytti> new even
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<ytti> Synthead, because it's internal API, it might change, but you can do it, of course
<ytti> i am bit surprised it is designed like this, all of my CLI tools are library callable
<ytti> because why not, comes for free
<ctOS> ytti: I modified rake https://github.com/ruby/rake/blob/2a16d036ccafa51c407a648e081b686ded03e784/lib/rake/file_task.rb#L22-L23 like this https://dpaste.de/nZwg to print the working directory. I then managed to monitor what went on with strace (took thousands of attempts). While rake is busy checking the mtime of my files, the strace log shows chdir(../) and attempts to find "gems.rb" and "Gemfile" all the way down to root.
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<ctOS> ytti: but I don’t know what is changing the directories or why it only screws up rake on a fast nvme ssd drive.
<ytti> ctOS, i'd raise this in mailing list
<ctOS> ytti: I’ve since observed both the puts in my modified file_task.rb print different wrong working directories. so it must happen really fast.
<ctOS> ytti: which mailing list is that?
<ytti> ctOS, maybe ruby-talk as it's not really clear if this is ruby problem or kernel problem
<ytti> ctOS, you're on MRI, right?
<ctOS> ytti: I don’t even know what that acronym stands for, so probably not.
<ytti> ctOS, the main ruby implementation, (matz ruby impleementaiton)
<ytti> ctOS, as opposed to say jruby
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<ytti> because ruby-talk would only be applicable for MRI
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<ytti> talking from my ass. my money is still on kernel bug
<ytti> but at any rate, it looks like an issue that someone smarter should look at
<ctOS> this looks like it might be it
<ctOS> walk through directory tree and then go back to the current working directory
<ytti> to me it looks like you are looking roughly where the symptoms present
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<ytti> but it might be that there is nothing wrong there
<ytti> if i'd see threaded code there, yeah maybe
<ytti> so you're saying PWD is changed ver ymany times
<ytti> so this until is being called lot
<ytti> still looks like a kernel problem to me, that the syscall sometimes does't return what it should
<ytti> haa exists? exist?
<ctOS> note the chdir walking
<ytti> oh Rake is threaded
<ctOS> this is run repeatedly while rake is trying to check on my RakeFile dependencies.
<ctOS> whatever is looking for those Gemfiles is not thread-safe
<ctOS> creating an empty Gemfile in my working directory stops the behavior.
<ctOS> which, I guess, is why few people ever notice this. everyone [else] has a gemfile
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<ctOS> found it!
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<ytti> doesn't explain to me why it seomtimes works, sometimes not
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<adam12> ctOS: Nice catch.
<ctOS> adam12: I’m trying to understand why they’re using chdir at all. why change the directory just to look for some files?
<adam12> ctOS: Legacy perhaps? They might be supporting a world where Pathname couldn't do the same.
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<bhaak> #ate
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<psilly0> hello
<psilly0> i don’t want a gemfile and i want to have bundler install gems through a single ruby file
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<psilly0> i tried that
<psilly0> but i keep getting an error that the it cannot load the gem that i am trying to install
<baweaver> More specifically?
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<phaul> hi baweaver
<baweaver> alo
<baweaver> psilly0: Also, lead with that next time
<psilly0> ok sorry
<baweaver> Specific errors will get better answers
<baweaver> Not a problem, just something to keep in mind
<baweaver> The first question gets an answer you may already know about, but reveals that you had a load error which is your actual issue.
<baweaver> What gem isn't loading?
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