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al2o3-cr >
i wasn't thinking last night, i can just do ' ' * size ffs.
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Mrbuck >
hi are there big changes betwwen ruby 1.9 and current version ?
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Mrbuck >
like python2 and 3
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ruby website is down by the way
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not openng
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al2o3-cr: thank you
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al2o3-cr >
Mrbuck: np ;)
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he think languages are dead because there are no tutorials
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though I agree less jobs with ruby that reason is so bad
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can some one become my client and give me ruby work? I accept very low payment
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havenwood >
Mrbuck: Plenty of folk will pay you to write Ruby, but typically not low pay. Are you a Rubyist?
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havenwood: used 1.9 and then not into programming job for almost 5years
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Mrbuck >
I can learn programming fast
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havenwood: that is very big company and may need deep knowledge
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Mrbuck: Nothing wrong with a little Ruby contracting! I've enjoyed doing that too.
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Mrbuck >
I can do some projects by google help
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Mrbuck: If you can find a niche where you do good work, folk will likely want to hire you.
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Mrbuck >
havenwood: my plan is to find some passive income and learn more
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havenwood: also bots rejeting my resume
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Mrbuck: Yeah, I followed a path along those lines. I got my first Ruby gig from a startup that formed out of a hackathon. Then I did contracting for a couple years for several startups.
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Mrbuck: Yeah, this whole AI psuedo science that has gotten popular with HR depts is disturbing. DHH was talking about that recently, iir.
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havenwood: I have 2 options learn pythonor ruby...I noticed every one into python so I dont like to touch it due to heavy competition
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though I should say every one into programming
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Mrbuck: Both Python and Ruby are great. Most jobs I see around these parts want you to show competence in at least one language, but which language isn't so important.
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as both are same
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havenwood: true but I am specific about bots
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I cant add some experinec on X language
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without working on it
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I just completely ignore listed languages. People list things they can't do a fizz buzz in all the time. Or they don't list languages they're a committer on. It's too wildly arbitrary to give any signal whatsoever.
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Mrbuck: Have any Ruby code you're working on to share or get comments on?
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havenwood: I am making some rails app
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Mrbuck: Nice
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havenwood: I will post the code in a week and then i will start looking
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rbenv doesn't have preview3 yet :\
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hey folks, does ruby still have the GIL ?
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sameerynho: CRuby does but other major implementations do not.
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sameerynho: The plan is to add Guilds in Ruby 3, which will allow CRuby to spike multiple cores from a single process.
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when ruby3 will be released?
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havenwood: interesting
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Mrbuck: The plan is Christmas 2020.
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I asked just few hours back about any major changes like python 2 vs 3
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Mrbuck: Matz is determined not to introduce a Python 2/3 style scenario.
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havenwood:thanks mate
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Mrbuck: Ruby 2.7 is a path towards Ruby 3.
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sameerynho: Any time!
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sameerynho: JRuby is the most stable GIL-free implementation, by far.
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havenwood: thank you I will read it now
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sameerynho: ^ it covers a bit about guilds, but very high level
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havenwood: it's been a while since i used ruby, i'm wokring on a C++ extension for python at the moment and let me tell you Python is a mess under the hood
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havenwood: so i was like what about ruby :D
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sameerynho: I really like TruffleRuby a lot under the hood. It's a lot of fun to contribute to since it's largely written in Ruby.
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havenwood: TruffleRuby is the one on GraalVM right ?
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sameerynho: Yup
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havenwood: i love GraalVM and their approach
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sameerynho: Twitter is enabling Graal with their Scala code. You can enable Graal with JRuby too, which looks pretty promising.
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sameerynho: Thanks for sharing, I hadn't see quarkus. :)
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It's surprisingly easy to do.
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havenwood: niceeeeee
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