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<Fractional> Is it recommended to comment the code inside the methods and not only what the methods does?
<benzrf> if you think it clarifies
<benzrf> sure
<bnagy> definitely, just don't spoonfeed
<bnagy> like x,y = y,x # swap x and y is a bad comment
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<Fractional> I've been searching for some time but found no "ruby commenting style" 'guides' :P
<Fractional> or guidelines
<godd2> If you're writing code relatively cleanly, the code "should" speak for itself
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<benzrf> Fractional: fuckin TIMTOWTDI
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<godd2> Fractional try checking out Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
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<Fractional> godd2: Is it worth a read?
<workmad3> Fractional: yes
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<bnagy> for something as simple as quicksort, reading your implementation should tell me as much as reading the wikipedia description of the alg
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<bnagy> assuming a reader who is fluent in that lang
<godd2> Fractional: yes, the code samples are in Java, but the concepts are understandable even if you don't know Java.
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<Fractional> benzrf: Am I supposed to search for a book, website, post or person? :P I don't find anything specific.
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<benzrf> Fractional: idk o-o
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<Fractional> This is the commenting I have for my Bubblesort function: http://pastebin.com/rTbUPZLh
<Fractional> Does it look fine to you?
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<bnagy> that's not comments, that's doc
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<Fractional> Yes, does it look well documentated for you? (The method)
<bnagy> but yeah, although I want to know if it's returning a new array or modifying the array I pass
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<Fractional> bnagy: Thanks, will add that! :)
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<workmad3> bnagy: hmm... with a sorting algo, I'd expect a wiki page to give a bit more detail about the analysis of the algo than an implementation would
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<workmad3> bnagy: i.e. it wouldn't be obvious from most implementations if a sorting algo had worst-case performance of O(n^2) or was O(n log n) all the way, etc
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<Fractional> Thank you all for your help by the way, I greatly appreciate it! :)
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<workmad3> bnagy: which I guess is an indication of something that *would* be useful in a comment :)
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<workmad3> Fractional: btw, it *really* doesn't boost confidence when the comment examples of output are incorrect ;)
<workmad3> Fractional: and I'd be really quite surprised if a sorting algorithm gave '[1, 1, 4, 7, 6, 1]' as sorted output :D
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<Fractional> workmad3: Emberassing moment -sighs- xD
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<Fractional> Sorry, it is edited now :P
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<workmad3> heh
<Fractional> Commenting guidelines, where art thou?
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<workmad3> Fractional: my basic commenting guideline - can I get away with not writing this comment and instead have code or a test say what the comment would?
<workmad3> Fractional: if I can (and it's usually the case), no comment necessary
<centrx> Self-documenting code is the best
<workmad3> Fractional: otherwise, write the absolute bare minimum
<centrx> Most of my comments are either "TODO" items, or explanations of provisional work-arounds
<workmad3> Fractional: things to especially stay away from - comments that describe the implementation
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<Fractional> workmad3: What do you mean by that Workmad? Like comments explaining how you came to the idea of doing it so?
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<Fractional> centrx, workmad3: https://gist.github.com/Freddan962/57ef48c023a5194569f0 - Do you think there is anything I need to lift forward? Perhaps on the quicksort?
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<centrx> Fractional, lift forward?
<Fractional> centrx: Anything to comment on
<workmad3> Fractional: not quite what I meant, but yes a history of how you came to an idea is definitely not a good comment IMO
<workmad3> Fractional: if you want to do that, put it in your commit history
<Fractional> workmad3: Seems uneccesary :P
<centrx> A comment like that could be helpful for you personally, or be good for your grade
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<centrx> For a non-academic project with multiple developers though, workmad3 has it right
<workmad3> Fractional: what I was meaning is comments like 'this line recurses into the left and right arrays from the pivot'
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<benzrf> should i use arr or ary?
<centrx> Fractional, There are ways you could Rubyfy the code more, but it looks good
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<centrx> benzrf, How about "array"
<benzrf> bah
<Fractional> benzrf: Thanks :D
<centrx> benzrf, Or name it by what it contains, not by the data type
<workmad3> Fractional: I'd personally also prefer something like 'ary.insertion_sort' rather than 'insertionsort(ary)'
<Fractional> workmad3: Sounds fair enough, I'll get working! :)
<workmad3> Fractional: but I'd also tend to stay away from implementation-dependent names (hence the existing 'ary.sort' method)
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<benzrf> centrx: it's a loop thingy though
<workmad3> Fractional: if you wanted a bit of a project, you could extend the existing .sort method so you could specify the sorting algo to use , e.g. ary.sort(:bubble), ary.sort(:insert), ary.sort(:default)
<centrx> benzrf, If that is really what it is, call it loop_thingy
<hypnosb> Hi I want to identify rows in an array but with multiple positions, so like: pos = [5,[4,1],2 but when I loop through I get 5 4 1 2 ... I'd expect to have to loop through twice? what am I looking for?
<hypnosb> so like the first index is row 0 at row 5, row 1 with positions 4 and 1
<centrx> hypnosb, Is that what are you are seeing as console output? It might just be how it looks when an array is printed
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<hypnosb> yes
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<hypnosb> puts i
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<benzrf> hypnosb: you want p i
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<benzrf> hypnosb: puts turns things 'displayable'
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<hypnosb> ohh yeah
<benzrf> hypnosb: p keeps them the same as you see in irb
<hypnosb> you tha man
<hypnosb> thanks
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<workmad3> def p(thing); puts thing.inspect; thing; end <-- sample implementation of 'p' :)
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<hypnosb> plz show off moar
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<workmad3> hypnosb: you could also use 'print'
<workmad3> hypnosb: which is kinda equivalent of 'puts thing.inspect' ;)
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<benzrf> workmad3: false
<benzrf> workmad3: print is like puts but stripping out newlines
<hypnosb> hey is there an online ruby ide other than try ruby that is more robust?
<workmad3> >> print [1,3]
<eval-in> workmad3 => [1, 3]nil (https://eval.in/93099)
<workmad3> >> puts [1,3]
<eval-in> workmad3 => 1 ... (https://eval.in/93100)
<workmad3> benzrf: different
<hypnosb> one i can write a script than just irb
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<workmad3> benzrf: print of an array is closer to puts ary.inspect ;)
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<benzrf> workmad3: wait wtf
<benzrf> in mine it works like puts
<benzrf> [1] pry(main)> print [1, 2, 3]
<benzrf> 123=> nil
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<benzrf> i g2g
<benzrf> nice talk o-o
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<workmad3> hehe
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<hypnosb> I'm looping through an array... is there anyway I can get an iterator variable also?
<hypnosb> forget ... so many langs :-|
<hypnosb> :)
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<godd2> hypnosb when you say an iterator variable, do you mean like access to the current index? because if so, try Array#each_with_index
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<hypnosb> godd2, looks good... thanks
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<beginner_coder> What is .match. Can someone explain to me that method please.
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<centrx> beginner_coder, String#match ?
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<beginner_coder> Yes sir.
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<beginner_coder> Yes centrx.
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<centrx> beginner_coder, Are you familiar with regular expressions?
<beginner_coder> No sir. I am not familar.
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<beginner_coder> familiar*
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<centrx> beginner_coder, Regular Expressions is a language for matching strings in a well-defined, concise, and flexible way
<godd2> If you want to match a pattern to a string. So like, "Ruby is awesome!".match(/Ruby/) will match with the first 4 characters
<centrx> beginner_coder, So if you want to match a telephone number, you could do: \d{3}-\d{4}
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<centrx> beginner_coder, Which will match any three numbers ("d"igits) follows by a dash (represented by the dash), and then four digits
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<beginner_coder> Do you mind making an example on eval.in please?
<centrx> >> "Ruby is awesome!".match(/Ruby/)
<eval-in> centrx => #<MatchData "Ruby"> (https://eval.in/93113)
<godd2> beginner_coder check out the book Mastering Regular Expressions. It's the go to source for learning regular expressions
<beginner_coder> Ok, thank you guys. Thank you godd2 and centrx and eval-in.
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<shevy> hehe
<shevy> beginner_coder, eval-in is a bot
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<shevy> it's nice of you to thank him but he won't care
<beginner_coder> Really???
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<godd2> And when the bots take over, who do you think will be on the top of their list for the New World Order? shevy? nope; beginner_coder
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<beginner_coder> Oh you guys know about the New World Order. Tell e about it.
<beginner_coder> godd2 I'm surprised, how much you know?
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<beginner_coder> Are you going to get the mark of the beast when it comes out godd2
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<godd2> Wait, the tattoo I have isn't the mark of the beast?? I have some money to go get back...
<shevy> beginner_coder only godd2 knows, I am clueless
<beginner_coder> You know about the NWO correct godd2? How much do you know?
<bnagy> godd2: too late - you don't have the mark now, so no buying or selling for you
<shevy> godd2: pink tattoos aren't a good sign
<shevy> beginner_coder always new groups rising to power and stealing money from the public ;)
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<beginner_coder> What I mean by the mark of the beast is microchips. Is it law now cause I swear I am not taking that, I rather die then take it.
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<shevy> ack
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<shevy> only terrorists refuse to get their chip implant
<shevy> or you shall use credit cards
<shevy> same effect
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<havenwood> beginner_coder: I think you're in the wrong channel, you're looking for #ruby-illuminati.
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<beginner_coder> relly
<beginner_coder> does that exist?
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<havenwood> shhhhh
<shevy> yes
<shevy> we are here
<shevy> but we have been driven away from the gangsters at #ruby-lang
<shevy> beginner_coder if you go there, beat them down please
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<beginner_coder> does the illuminati exist?
<beginner_coder> I tried to join that chat lobby but it doesn't take me there.
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<bnagy> oh awesome, Trollpants McTrolligan is back
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<dorei> beginner_coder: of course We exist
<shevy> hehe
<shevy> beginner_coder giving entities names changes perception
<shevy> beginner_coder that's why my favourite variable is _
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<beginner_coder> Hold on wtf, you said we.
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<havenwood> i'd rather talk about the Ruby weight loss show
<beginner_coder> Are you an occultist or a freemason dorei?
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<godd2> shevy the Scala _ or the Ruby _
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<dorei> beginner_coder: i'm an atheist, atheists aint allowed at freemason lodges
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<beginner_coder> So why did you say of course we exist
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<havenwood> dorei: whew, we're safe!
<agent_white> shevy: I call my dog's toys their 'babies'. I think they all are neglectful parents.
<havenwood> dorei: do they have a don't ask don't tell policy though?
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<dorei> havenwood: i think the only requirement to accept someone at a lodge is to believe in some sort of a higher being, call it whatever u wish, jehova, allah, thor, zeus, etc.
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<havenwood> ah
<havenwood> Thor!
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<godd2> I know there's a Thor gem, are there Allah, Zues and Jehova gems too?
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<havenwood> I'll see you in Valhalla! Bring me my ale valkyry!
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<havenwood> godd2: There's a God gem, was discussing whether to use God or BluePill at lunch the other day and got some weird looks.
<havenwood> "I just can't decide whether I like God or BluePill better."
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<shevy> godd2 _ is sex as a throwaway variable in any language
<shevy> *sexy
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<shevy> it like frees the brain to have to think
<Hanmac> "_" is one of few variable names that are threat specially
<shevy> _ = 'ffmpeg -i bla.avi -o lala.mp4'; puts e; system _
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<Hanmac> shevy: you can use "*" as whitespace character for variables too ;P
<godd2> and don't forget its use in irb as "the last returned thing"
<Hanmac> but only in parameter lists
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<shevy> Hanmac how do you mean?
<shevy> godd2 irb isn't the ruby parser though
<shevy> basically you run invalid code there ;)
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<Ohga> hi. Would someone be able to give some advice over pm on a code design problem?
<shevy> pm are so annoying
<shevy> can't you just ask the question here?
<Hanmac> >> [[1,2,"1"],[2,4,"2"],[3,6,"3"]].map {|*,n|n}
<eval-in> Hanmac => ["1", "2", "3"] (https://eval.in/93125)
<Hanmac> shevy: did oyu see what i mean?
<godd2> >> a, *b, c = [1,2,3,4,5,6,7]; b
<eval-in> godd2 => [2, 3, 4, 5, 6] (https://eval.in/93126)
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<godd2> is that the same 'catch a bunch' asterisk?
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<Fractional> Soon recieving my oculus rift, woho! :D
<Hanmac> godd2: what do you think?
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<Hanmac> >> a, *, c = [1,2,3,4,5,6,7]; [a,c]
<eval-in> Hanmac => [1, 7] (https://eval.in/93127)
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<godd2> right, because a, _, c would leave a as 1 and c as 3
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<Hanmac> Fractional: i want glasses like in "Dennou Coil" where i cant decide anymore what is "real" and what is Augmented ;P
<shevy> Hanmac, what do you think is this poem about: http://pastie.org/pastes/8655655/text
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<Hanmac> shevy: its to late for me to thnk ;P
<dorei> dennou coil :)
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<Hanmac> godd2: or combined
<Hanmac> >> a, _, b,_,c,*, d = [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9]; [a,b,c,d]
<eval-in> Hanmac => [1, 3, 5, 9] (https://eval.in/93128)
<shevy> Hanmac hehe ok read it after sleep
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<Hanmac> dorei: yeah did you see the anime? i want glasses where no one would know what is fiction and what not ;P
<Fractional> Sword Art Online
<dorei> Hanmac: lsd spraying glasses? :p
<godd2> one, two, *skip_a_few, ninty_nine, one_hundred = [*1..100]
<Hanmac> hm maybe not so much .. in SAO you see what is and what not
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<Hanmac> dorei: hm something like that ;P
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<masterkorp> guys
<masterkorp> How do i set a specific version of a gem to be used
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<benzrf> hows it goin ruby people
<masterkorp> also how do i list the existing versions of gem locally
<benzrf> masterkorp: normally i just type 'gem' then mash tab
<havenwood> masterkorp: gem list gem_name
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<havenwood> masterkorp: Usually in a Gemfile.
<masterkorp> and to activate it ?
<havenwood> masterkorp: Activate?
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<masterkorp> yeah i have capistrano 3 and 2
<masterkorp> how do i set capistrano 2 to be used ?
<havenwood> in your Gemfile typically
<benzrf> masterkorp: edit ur gemfile?
<masterkorp> no gemfile !
<benzrf> masterkorp: welp
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<benzrf> dang versions are a bitch
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<havenwood> masterkorp: use the full path to the gem binary, create a Gemfile, remove the Cap you don't want, use gs, chgems, or something similar
<havenwood> there are many ways to do it
<godd2> gem "test", ">= 1.3.6" # assuming the gem name is actually "test"
<godd2> require "test" # assuming there is a file "test.rb" in the gem
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<masterkorp> and with the gem command?
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<godd2> or if you have rvm installed, you can create a custom gem package and install a specific version to that package
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<masterkorp> lol overcomplicating
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<masterkorp> i have the 2 versions installed how do I switch back ??
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<havenwood> masterkorp: uninstall the one you don't want
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<benzrf> what does gem do if you dont specify a version?
<masterkorp> i want do it
<shevy> masterkorp remove one version and stop making your life harder
<havenwood> masterkorp: gem help uninstall
<masterkorp> shevy: i need them
<masterkorp> for diferent projects
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<havenwood> masterkorp: then use chgems, rvm gemsets, gs, any of the tools meant to do such a thing, or use a Gemfile with bundler
<havenwood> masterkorp: these are your options.
<shevy> I still think the best is to decide on one version :)
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<godd2> masterkorp are you on windows/linux/mac?
<masterkorp> archlinux
<havenwood> or ohmygems
<benzrf> ohmygems
<benzrf> wut
<shevy> benzrf, in ruby it is tradition to pick stupid names for your gem
<masterkorp> fuck rvm
<shevy> benzrf you will have to decide on a name for your gem as well
<masterkorp> i use rbenv
<masterkorp> still i know that gems support multiple versions by default
<masterkorp> i know its possible to do it
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<masterkorp> i am missing the google fu right now
<benzrf> yo check out this thing i made
<pragmatism> benzrf: I've bseen gems named clitt, womanizer, lolita, tranny, analdiffist, etc.
<benzrf> 1 sec
<shevy> masterkorp gem 'name', 'version'
<havenwood> masterkorp: nope, you're incorrect
<benzrf> pragmatism: wut
<pragmatism> Some people are just fucking stupid
<pragmatism> yeah
<pragmatism> srsly
<pragmatism> It's almost like they forget professionals / women write code.
<pragmatism> /rant
<benzrf> wait shit
<benzrf> thats not mine
<benzrf> wtf pry lied ;-;
<havenwood> he doesn't want to require, but to use the binary i'm figuring, we're talking cap
<shevy> pragmatism I wanna find out what name women give their gems
<masterkorp> found
<shevy> a binary?
<shevy> then that is even easier!
<masterkorp> cap _2.x.x_ deploy
<masterkorp> see no use for that
<pragmatism> shevy: I don't think one should be able to tell the difference
<shevy> pragmatism true. there are stupid names and good names
<pragmatism> The names should serve the people using the gems, not the authors
<havenwood> shevy: very easy, full path, done.
<shevy> agreed
<shevy> havenwood yeah!
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<shevy> I have almost 20.000 aliases :-)
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<shevy> all stored in yaml files
<godd2> pragmatism lol why would it be relevant than women write code for naming a gem clitt to be unprofessional?
<godd2> surely it would be unprofessional regardless
<shevy> now you see how difficult it is to move to 2.1 with all my invalid yaml files!
<havenwood> shevy: rofl
<shevy> well
<pragmatism> godd2: You're missing the point, it's ridiculous regardless.
<shevy> clitt does not really convey a lot of useful information to the project at hand
<pragmatism> godd2: "womanizer" for example, is both sexist and shitty
<shevy> it is sexist?
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<shevy> what's bad with it?
<godd2> yea but that would be true (if it is) whether or not women write code
<havenwood> progrock: lolita doesn't offend me unless in a gross context, just a name
<pragmatism> I'm making the argument that gem names should be playful, professional, and non-offesive
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<godd2> so why bring it up?
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<pragmatism> and maybe even descriptive :O
<pragmatism> godd2: Because I'm reading through a list of bad gem names?
<havenwood> progrock: misstell, sry
<shevy> hehe
<shevy> poor progrock
<havenwood> srsly
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<shevy> come to think about it
<shevy> pragmatism, you have a stupid nick!
<pragmatism> Oh no!
<godd2> fair enough, but that can go too far. I vote we never use git because the default for the main branch is "master" which has offensive slavery overtones.
<pragmatism> shevy: what should I do
<havenwood> pragmatism: if it is overtly gross it will get yanked, up to the author to be sensible otherwise
<shevy> pragmatism pick a better one like benzrf
<pragmatism> godd2: ITT, people missing the point
<pragmatism> shevy: good call. I was actually gonna go with SJKDLHFKJSDBFLKJSDBFKJH9823421
<shevy> it should be short
<pragmatism> havenwood: Dunno if that's true
<shevy> like praccy
<havenwood> pragmatism: people also find gem names like `bacon`, `god`, etc offensive
<shevy> or praggy
<shevy> god is annoying me!
<shevy> it's monitoring
<dorei> naming stuff is always the most difficult part in IT world
<shevy> it should be renamed to csi
<godd2> or the kicked_in_the_balls gem
<shevy> I mean cia lol
<havenwood> pragmatism: like i said...
<havenwood> pragmatism: i don't find bacon or ball gags offensive, some people do
<shevy> pragmatism I think in the latter cases, these are not real projects
<pragmatism> havenwood: It definitely doesn't sound good when I talk about the library in front of a client.
<godd2> Is there a fanny gem? please let there be a fanny gem.
<havenwood> pragmatism: i'm talking gems, not github repos
<havenwood> pragmatism: that isn't a gem
<shevy> godd2 nope no fanny gem
<havenwood> pragmatism: oh, i lie...
<pragmatism> havenwood: How did you come to that conclusion?
<havenwood> pragmatism: well, that is borderline
<havenwood> pragmatism: i was wrong
<pragmatism> word
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<benzrf> godd2: fanny means butt in the us just fyi
<nycjv321> what is proper way of profiling Ruby memory usage?
<pragmatism> I just think there's an argument to be made that the OS community shouldn't use names for libraries that can't be used in 95% of conversations
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<shevy> nycjv321 benchmark!
<shevy> what community
<pragmatism> esp. when referring to the libraries in passing to a client or another professional
<pragmatism> opens ource
<shevy> what do I have to do with other people naming their projects
<godd2> benzrf lol I know I'm Murican
<pragmatism> Nothing, unless you contribute.
<benzrf> godd2: ok
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<benzrf> given the way you treated the word i assumed you were uk
<bnagy> nycjv321: run your code on jruby and use the jvm profilers :P
<benzrf> :p
<nycjv321> shevy: benchmark!?
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<nycjv321> bnagy: :(
<havenwood> pragmatism: i think serious names shouldn't be allowed! more Rainbows! and Unicorns!
<pragmatism> havenwood: I think most people agree with you
<godd2> havenwood and capybaras?
<nycjv321> and cucumbers?
<shevy> well the word "community" is what irked me
<benzrf> is there a gem called 'cucumber'
<havenwood> godd2: largest rodent should have a gem name for sure, indeed
<benzrf> if not i will make it
<havenwood> benzrf: you jest?
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<benzrf> never
<benzrf> it will be a data gem
<benzrf> containing constants regarding cucumbers
<nycjv321> benzrf: there is a ruby tool called cucmber with a corresponding gem :)
<benzrf> ah
<shevy> cucumber!
<havenwood> is support yanking cucumber and giving benzrf the name :P
<benzrf> :[
<havenwood> i'd*
<benzrf> B)
<pragmatism> Cucumber is a BDD suite that uses Gherkin
<shevy> pragmatism, do you find cucumber offensive?
<benzrf> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8552548 <- a shitty thing i made
<pragmatism> nah
<pragmatism> Veggies are awesome
<shevy> ok so FOOD is good
<pragmatism> yeah
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<shevy> how about a gem project called "banana"
<pragmatism> Just not expletives or slurs
<benzrf> zuchinni
<shevy> or perhaps "mybanana"
<havenwood> pragmatism: i totally agree the community should be inclusive, but i think we should keep our fun
<shevy> damn benzrf stop it, you make me hungry
<shevy> pizza
<nycjv321> or how about willy_harry?
<shevy> nycjv321 you are so gross
<pragmatism> I don't see how that could be construed offensively.
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<shevy> DAMN IT
* pragmatism is off to beer and dinner <3<3<3
<shevy> he has stolen the name :(
<havenwood> pragmatism: if you see one that is well over the line let #rubygems know!!
<shevy> I shall never use banana in my ruby projects
<pragmatism> havenwood: I'm not that nuts, just won't use it
<pragmatism> and will occasionally complain about it in #ruby :()
<godd2> now we jsut need some blow
<pragmatism> *:)
<pragmatism> use gem/cocaine
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<shevy> I am fine with hooker, but banana is crossing a line here
<havenwood> godd2: cocaine is a nice option parser
<shevy> omg
<nycjv321> godd2: that is awesome!
<shevy> can we combine hooker with cocaine?
<havenwood> well, trollop, cocaine or slop
<havenwood> i think are the top three option parsers
<shevy> can't be worse than optparse
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<shevy> whoever came up with
<shevy> end.parse!(ARGV)
<shevy> should be shot on the spot
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<shevy> I can never remember the way to use optparse without looking at the docu
<soahccc> shevy: You are shitting me! Our internal library is also called banana and I also have jelled at the gem which is already there :D
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<godd2> Im just surprised there isn't a RubyGem naming contest
<shevy> soahccc ah but this I understand
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<godd2> soahccc name yours bananana as successor
<shevy> soahccc I have a local project called "configuration" and I can not use it for rubygem based projects because someone else took that name :(
<shevy> but enough is enough
<soahccc> shevy: You know it fits so good since our company is called bmonkeys
<shevy> banana has been hijacked
<shevy> I am going to complain to drbrain
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<benzrf> shit i do not think this dumb chromebook has a pgup key
<shevy> soahccc bmonkeys?
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<benzrf> how the heck do i scroll up
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<benzrf> ;-;
<shevy> soahccc full with fleas?
<shevy> benzrf you don't! you live in the present, not in the past!
<benzrf> pfft
<soahccc> shevy: look at the picture: https://github.com/2called-chaos
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<godd2> benzrf try Shift+spacebar
<nycjv321> benzrf: page up ?
<godd2> or Fn+UpArrow
<benzrf> godd2: in irssi
<benzrf> :u
<nycjv321> page up
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<nycjv321> irssi +1!
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<nycjv321> chestbumps*
<benzrf> godd2: chromebooks do not fn
<shevy> soahccc hehe
<shevy> benzrf use xchat!
<nycjv321> xchat? eh
<benzrf> xchat is for lusers
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<benzrf> you cant even run it without x
<nycjv321> benzrf: exactly
<benzrf> failulure
<shevy> only noobs can't run X
<shevy> EVEN WINDOWS USERS CAN
<godd2> benzrf slide up on the leftmost portion of your touch pad
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<bnagy> there's can't and there's won't
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<godd2> benzrf what version of chromebook do you have? or is there only one?
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<godd2> try Alt+UpArrow
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<benzrf> godd2: the samsung one
<benzrf> alt+up = nothin
<soahccc> yeah xchat
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<godd2> "Keyboard fans also should learn that Page Down and Page Up keys can be simulated with the Alt-down-arrow and Alt-up-arrow combinations"
<godd2> ctrl+alt+up?
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<benzrf> ?!
<benzrf> dafuq?
<godd2> what, is it something retarded?
<benzrf> ah
<benzrf> i can use m-n and m-p
<benzrf> also retarded rly
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<godd2> what does m-n mean?
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<benzrf> meta-n
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<shevy> emacs is a disease
<shevy> to the brain
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<ner0x> Is there an easy way to pull hash keys/values into another hash? IE: all_opts = { ... bunch of opts ... }; one_opts = all_opts.get(:height, :width); two_opts = all_opts.get(:size, :weight); etc?
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<soahccc> ner0x: with active support you have slice and except
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<ner0x> soahccc: Thank you. I'll look those up.
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<ner0x> soahccc: That did the trick. Thank you sir.
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<soahccc> you're welcome
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<godd2> ner0x another way is the second answer in this stackoverflow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12047447/get-key-value-pair-of-hash-for-the-given-key-in-ruby
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<subwaytest> woops
<krz> ban
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<krz> for soliciting spam ;)
<subwaytest> For missing a forward slash? Bit harsh krz.
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<krz> for being an automated bot
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<subwaytest> How am I an automated bot?
<krz> because you have smart answers
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<subwaytest> such rubyist
<krz> whops i pissed off a php dev
<subwaytest> krz pls
<krz> great way to start the day
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<centrx> PHP bad
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<subwaytest> PHP ist de kabouter
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<Jdubs> anyone experienced with bootstrap popovers? no one is responding in #css
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<nycjv321> What is Thread.list suppost to return? I am creating 10000, 5000, 200 threads and its always saying only 3 are running?
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<nycjv321> Thread.list.count*
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<YOURBESTFRIEND> I guess that's the number of real threads, not green threads
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<bnagy> if you create a ruby Thread you should see it in Thread.list
<bnagy> as long as it's still running
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<havenwood> YOURBESTFRIEND: Ruby threads map one to one to system threads.
<YOURBESTFRIEND> orly?
<havenwood> These days, indeed.
<nycjv321> YOURBESTFRIEND: so that number on MRI would be one then?
<havenwood> 1.8 is end-of-life.
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<bnagy> no Thread.list is an in-ruby thing, it always reported the number of Threads
<bnagy> you're probably just not doing what you think you're doing
<nycjv321> bnagy: thats what I thought... Its always returning 3.
<nycjv321> could I gist it?
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<bnagy> sure, but I can give you my 99% guess
<bnagy> the Threads you're creating aren't running - as in they're finished
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<bnagy> eg they hit an exception and died, or they just got to the End Of Their Stuff
<bnagy> exception and died is a pretty common one
<nycjv321> Line 16 is always returning 3
<nycjv321> I would think 3 would vary at least if threads are dieing I am creating 200 threads.
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<pontiki> class Thread; def list; 3; end; end
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<nycjv321> +1 pontiki
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<nycjv321> bnagy: I would also be interested to see what you think of the code :)
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<bnagy> it uses threads and mutex AND condition variable
<bnagy> therefore I hate it
<nycjv321> :'(
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<pontiki> WE HATES IT!! PRECIOUSSSSS!
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<bnagy> oh, I bet that's your problem though
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<bnagy> L#29 thread.join
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<bnagy> what does #join do?
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<nycjv321> honestly its useless in this context.
<bnagy> more than useless
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<nycjv321> It joins the thread. So like if any of the spawned threads throw an exception it is then sent in the parent thread.
<bnagy> that's not all
<bnagy> "Does not return until thr exits or until the given limit seconds have passed."
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<nycjv321> dude commenting it out fixed it
<bnagy> yes what I asked what it did that was by way of being a Socratic question, not a genuine request for information
<bnagy> *when
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<pontiki> socrates would be lost on IRC
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<nycjv321> bnagy: I realized that as well and went and read the documentation :)
<nycjv321> why is bad to have a mutex and a condition variable?
<bnagy> I can't see what your condition variable is doing but srsly I dislike them
<bnagy> why not just push your logs to a Queue which is threadsafe by design and then have a logger thread to deal with them?
<nycjv321> Well I'm signaling that I am updating the local variable summary.
<nycjv321> summaries*
<bnagy> oh it's trying to protect the summaries array?
<nycjv321> yes
<bnagy> yeah def just use a queue for that
<bnagy> will be way cleaner imho
<nycjv321> okay.
<nycjv321> noob over here :)
<bnagy> everyone is a noob at threading
<nycjv321> bnagy: your less of a noob though ;)
<agent_white> I know all about threads. jus ask me if I know
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<gz4rth> o/
<agent_white> \o
<gz4rth> i need some help with arrays
<gz4rth> ;o
<agent_white> yt gz
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<gz4rth> i have this
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<nycjv321> bnagy: removing thread.join increases run time 5x
<gz4rth> pardon
* nycjv321 shakes his head
<nycjv321> gz4rth: whatsup?
<gz4rth> can i do this in ruby somevar[someinteger]=something?
<bnagy> nycjv321: hurr hurr hurr concurrency is HARRD
<gz4rth> o/ nycjv321
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<nycjv321> gz4rth: dude have you read the documentation?
<gz4rth> i came from c and im realy lost ;o
<bnagy> gz4rth: that's a Hash access pattern, not Array
<bnagy> usually anyway, but if you mean index access, yes, you also can
<bnagy> also works with slice assignment etc
<agent_white> LOW 5! o-
<gz4rth> basicly i want to do this for i in 1..id x[i]=blabla
<agent_white> o_
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<bnagy> >> a=[1,2,3]; a[1] = 4; a
<eval-in> bnagy => [1, 4, 3] (https://eval.in/93156)
<gz4rth> nycjv321, can i send you pm?
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<nycjv321> dude why would commenting out a Thread.join statement improve performance?!?!?!
<nycjv321> gz4rth: sure
<gz4rth> thanks
<bnagy> (1..id).each {|idx| target[idx] = whatever}
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<bnagy> nycjv321: oh I thought it tanked your perf
<bnagy> once you remove the join your threads are running concurrently
<bnagy> and since they are IO bound ( doing network io ) you'll get a performance benefit, at least up to some point
<nycjv321> wait sorry using it improves performance*
<bnagy> yeah that can happen as well :D
<nycjv321> bnagy: ah I see I'll have to adjust the threads then and try it out.
<bnagy> if you start way too many threads you'll kill your ruby VM and or flood your net
<agent_white> Note to self: changing server iptables on terribad connection is not smart.
<bnagy> so most people use a thread pool as workers and then feed them work via a queue or similar
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<havenwood> <3 Queue
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<havenwood> guess i should start a bugs.ruby-lang.org for this family of 2.0+ segfaults?: Queue.new.dup.empty?
<havenwood> Queue.new.clone.anything
<nycjv321> bnagy: so yea I'm not going to comment out thread.join since commenting it out increases runtime 5-10x ><
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<xybre> havenwood: I was having segfaults on 2.1 :/
<nycjv321> maybe its something with my mutex and conditional variable? /me will have to do some snooping
<havenwood> xybre: same issue on 2.0 and 2.1, or you mean other than Queue.new.dup
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<centrx> havenwood, Doesn't crash on mine
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<havenwood> centrx: ahh, interesting - i haven't tested broadly - just ran into it the other day
<havenwood> centrx: 2.0 or 2.1?
<centrx> 2.0
<havenwood> patch level?
<centrx> ruby 2.0.0p353 (2013-11-22) [x86_64-linux-gnu]
<havenwood> thx
<havenwood> hrm, indeed
<havenwood> centrx: no segfault for me on linux box, segfault on OS X, hm
<havenwood> guess i'll try FreeBSD
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<havenwood> Anyone on OS mind seeing if `Queue.new.dup.empty?` segfaults on Ruby 2.0 or 2.1?
<havenwood> on OS X**
<bnagy> => "ruby 2.0.0p353 (2013-11-22 revision 43784) [x86_64-darwin12.4.0]"
<bnagy> clean
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<havenwood> welp :O, just me >.>
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<havenwood> bnagy: ohhh, my bad, 2.1+
<havenwood> segfaults on 2.1 and 2.2-dev
<havenwood> not segfaulting on 2.0 for me
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<bnagy> you crazy kids with your bleeding edge
<jamest3> for capybara how do i access the last element of a group when i use find? i wanna do something like first_token = find('.token').last
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<bnagy> havenwood: if you tell me how to update my MRI with chruby / ruby-install because I am too lazy to google I will test it for you
<bnagy> can't say fairer than that
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<havenwood> bnagy: ruby-install ruby
<havenwood> bnagy: with latest ruby-install*
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<havenwood> bnagy: or without updating ruby-install: ruby-install ruby 2.1.0
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<bnagy> how to update rubby-install?
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<havenwood> brew reinstall ruby-install
<bnagy> ports?
<havenwood> macports user?
<bnagy> yes. You know this.
<bnagy> because I whined until you added ports support
<havenwood> ooh, right, of course... :P
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<havenwood> just rerun install script for new one :)
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<havenwood> i forgot, hehe
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<havenwood> almost over the flu, but i swear it has done a number on my brain
<bnagy> right well on my BLISTERING internet that'll all be done in about 20 minutes
<havenwood> haha
<havenwood> i'm house sitting and have cringeworthy speed too
<bnagy> 8KB?
<havenwood> no :O
<havenwood> just not the 32 Mbps i'm used to
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<havenwood> i do get dropped a couple times a day, first world problems
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<bnagy> havenwood: feel anything?
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<havenwood> hm?
<bnagy> oh, I was wishing head cancer on you REALLY HARD
<havenwood> :P
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<havenwood> that isn't even fast here >.>
<xybre> havenwood: crashes here on OSX with 2.1.0p0 but works fine on ruby 2.0p353
<bnagy> t(-.-t)
<havenwood> xybre: ah, thx
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<havenwood> yeah, so 2.1.0 and trunk
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<xybre> I'm setting up 2.1 on linux to see if it happens there too
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<xybre> havenwood: crashed on linux too, 2.0 still works
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<havenwood> oh 2.1.. why do you cut me so!
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<havenwood> i have a sneaking suspicion people will be updating minors when first tiny comes out, at least for production
<havenwood> 2.1.1
<havenwood> 2.2.1
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<havenwood> i guess some people always have avoided p0's
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<havenwood> for good reason
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<bnagy> havenwood: yah confirm
<bnagy> right, beer and sumo
<bnagy> afternoon all :)
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<havenwood> \o/
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<nycjv321> so having threads decreases performance for io on my machine apparently :(
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<centrx> nycjv321, That sounds strange
<centrx> nycjv321, But I would say that performance for common applications is almost always I/O bound
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<nycjv321> centrx: I see now
<nycjv321> centrx: I am noticing performance increases with large amounts of threads when testing external applications
<nycjv321> I will need to do alot more testing.
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<xybre> Your method of testing or the pattern for development might be wrong.
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<nycjv321> xybre: why do you say that?
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<nycjv321> yea I see the bottle neck is created becuase I am testing local io.
<nycjv321> I am def. seeing an increase everytime with external applications
<nycjv321> increase in performance*
<xybre> Because your results are inconsistant.
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<nycjv321> becuase I am testing local and external apps.
<nycjv321> They are consistent in each instance.
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<havenwood> bnagy: xybre: Bug #9440: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/9440
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<xybre> havenwood: holy crap that page took like 3 minutes to load
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<nycjv321> xybre: mines crashed
<nycjv321> well bye all
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<agent_white> Fuck yes that feel when Puppet works the first time, no issues whatsoever.
<george2> Is there an easy way to check if an element exists in a list before another specific element? For example, I want to return true if the list has 'a' before 'i': ['a', 'b', 'i'] => true, ['i', 'a', 'd'] => false.
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<xybre> george2: array.find{|e| break false if e == "i"; break true if e == "a" }
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<george2> nice
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<havenwood> though should just use #each for the above methinks
<havenwood> or yeah, rely on "a"'s truthiness: array.find { |e| break false if e == 'i'; e == 'a' }
<xybre> Same result, but using find instead of each is more intent-revealing.
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<havenwood> but you're not using #find, i guess i just disagree
<xybre> havenwood: that wouldn't return `true`, it would return "a". May or may not matter.
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<havenwood> like i said, if just truthiness matters
<george2> what about http://pastebin.kde.org/pioslwjdb ?
<george2> no, not quite right.
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<havenwood> xybre: how bout we compromise and say #map, because it is the shortest! :P
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<george2> what's the difference between find and each?
<xybre> I considered that :p but either #each or #find are fine. #each is probably slightly more efficient while #find makes it a little more intuitive to the reader.
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<havenwood> xybre: except for readers like me who expect #find to be used like... #find :P
<xybre> george2: #find returns the first matching element, no more. #each returns the original object.
<xybre> havenwood: Its not being used like #each either.
<havenwood> sure it is, an each that is broken early
<xybre> Or a find thats broken early :p
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<havenwood> hehe
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<agent_white> Well doesn't each needs to iterate through the whole array, right? Might be excessive if the two vals are at the very end.
<havenwood> agent_white: if you knew where they were ahead of time? to find stuff we iterate!
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<havenwood> agent_white: oh, no, if you break #each stops
<agent_white> havenwood: Just curious ;) I'm just thinking of the array was HUGE
<havenwood> agent_white: just got what you meant
<havenwood> agent_white: xybre's code breaks if it finds what you're looking for, and if it doesn't find it you need to go to the end to make sure it isn't there
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<george2> So, class variables are like static variables in C/C++/Java, and member variables are like instance variables? Do I understand that correctly?
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<havenwood> george2: Class variables are like nothing else. Do not use them.
<havenwood> george2: Pretend they do not exist. Full stop.
<george2> ha
<havenwood> i'm not kidding!
<george2> I would, but my assignment says "use a class variable"
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<havenwood> oooh, you should write that Matz said it was a mistake adding them to the language
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<havenwood> and they'll be gone in Ruby 3000, good riddance!!
<Xeago_> bah
<Xeago_> now I've already been working for 5 hours
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<havenwood> george2: class variables are very confusing and there isn't really an analog in Java afaik
<havenwood> george2: sorry i'm no help!
<george2> I'll just say "havenwood toold me Matz said it was a mistake to add class vars to Ruby", I'm sure that'll get me full credit :p I'll just skip this one then, I'm already not using a hash, and it tells me to do that too.
<havenwood> lawl
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<centrx> nah, class variables are fine
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<havenwood> centrx: they aren't
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<havenwood> hence no one using them
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<havenwood> @@omgwtfbbqnoooooo
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<centrx> nah, I use them
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<havenwood> you ought not
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<centrx> Then where am I going to put the data I don't store in class instance variables?
<havenwood> in the class instance variables :P
<havenwood> centrx: to be fair, there are of course use cases, still not worth it
<havenwood> imho
<agent_white> havenwood: I was thinking somethin like `(arr.index val1) <=> (arr.index val2)`
<havenwood> and in the opinion of the creator of the language
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<havenwood> agent_white: then you iterate through twice
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<agent_white> havenwood: Ahhh I see... since you have to find the value's index first?
<havenwood> yup
<agent_white> Ooo
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<agent_white> havenwood: I still want to use that operator sometime, too fancy not to! ;P
<havenwood> spaceship operator ftw
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<Xeago_> damn, is that what it is called?
<havenwood> aye
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<bricker`LA> Any dev/ops people in here? I have a fairly simple question: In this command, what is the significance of the order of the -m and --state flags?
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<bricker`LA> iptables -I INPUT 4 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
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<bricker`LA> If any
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<Asitha> Hi there - I need someone's help to figure out what is wrong with the imgur gem
<Asitha> Is anyone available to assist me?
<bricker`LA> Asitha: yes
<Asitha> I installed the gem and am trying to run $ rake imgur:authorize APP_KEY='Consumer Key' APP_SECRET='Consumer Secret'
<bricker`LA> *sigh* I should read documentation before I open my dumb mouth: "iptables can use extended packet matching modules. These are loaded in two ways: implicitly, when -p or --protocol is specified, or with the -m or --match options, followed by the matching module name"
<Asitha> But every time I run it, it says Don't know how to build task 'imgur:authorize'
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<bricker`LA> Asitha: how did you install the gem?
<Asitha> At first I done it via the Gemfile
<Asitha> bundle install, bundle update
<Asitha> Didn't work
<Asitha> So I tried to manually install it
<Asitha> By cloning the repo
<Asitha> and installing it
<Asitha> same thing
<bricker`LA> Asitha: okay - if you install it via the gemfile, you need to run it with `bundle exec rake imgur:authorize`
<bricker`LA> that's the way you *should* do it
<Asitha> okay let me give that a go
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<Asitha> Same issue :(
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<bricker`LA> Asitha: run `bundle exec rake -T` and confirm that there are imgur tasks present
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<Asitha> doesn't look like it is listed there
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<bricker`LA> ah
<bricker`LA> Asitha: where did you see the rake tasks?
<bricker`LA> I mean, what told you to run that command?
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<bricker`LA> and which imgur gem are you using?
<Asitha> The documentation
<bricker`LA> How are you installing that? gem 'imgur' ?
<Asitha> gem 'imgur', :git => 'git://github.com/dncrht/imgur.git'
<bricker`LA> okay good
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<bricker`LA> yeah this gem is weird
<bricker`LA> Asitha: I recommend doing it like this:
<bricker`LA> bundle exec rails server
<bricker`LA> require 'imgur/rake'
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<bricker`LA> Imgur::Rake.authorize("your_app_key", "your_app_secret")
<bricker`LA> then it should output the information you need
<bricker`LA> This is after you've installed the gem from your Gemfile
<Asitha> In general, this is actually what I want working: https://github.com/dncrht/paperclip-imgur
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<Asitha> and I just don't know how to get the access_token and secret
<bricker`LA> I just told you, try that
<Asitha> yeah
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<Asitha> bundle exec rails server or rails c?
<bricker`LA> Asitha: sorry, rails c
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<Asitha> NoMethodError: undefined method `gsub' for nil:NilClass
<Asitha> -_-
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<Asitha> Ah
<Asitha> I was missing the site
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<agent_white> Bahaha I love this. I looking up how to use ARGV in Ruby, and this poast is the first on Google: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13329132/whats-the-point-of-argv-in-ruby
<agent_white> Yeah man... WHATS THE POINT?!!?
<agent_white> -_-
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<tobago> I have to calculate the metric bmi like: https://gist.github.com/trinibago/8554967
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<tobago> therefore i want to calculate using BigDecimal (for precision reasons)
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<godd2> You don't need BigDecimal for the level of precision necesssary for a BMI calculation
<tobago> but BigDecimal expects a string, instead of integer.
<tobago> godd2, which class to use for correct precision?
<godd2> You'd be fine with FLoat
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<tobago> godd2, o.k.?
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<tobago> godd2, didn't expected Float to be sufficient
<godd2> Float is precise to 15 decimal places
<godd2> way more than any scale or tape measure is going to give you data of
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<RubyPanther> You dont need it for precision, only for accuracy ;)
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<RubyPanther> floats are for graphics and stuff where 3.999999 is the same as 4
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<RubyPanther> Things like BMI that end up with numbers for human consumption should use accurate math
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<godd2> I'll put it this way tobago, 10^-15 meters is smaller than an atom. I doubt you need to know how tall you are in atom diameters
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<RubyPanther> Sure, I doubt a 2m customer would mind at all if you round it off it 2m-(10^-15)! Especially when your website might then show 1.99
<RubyPanther> If you know you're rounding to human consumable numbers, then the max you round is the max error you get from using floats, not the same as the un-rounded error (which is small)
<bricker`LA> What is +@? I've seen it somewhere. The "plus" method on Numeric is defined as: rb_define_method(rb_cNumeric, "+@", num_uplus, 0);
<tobago> godd2, RubyPanther and comparing float results like: 0.1+(0.2+0.3) == (0.1+0.2)+0.3
<alex88> also, height in meters isn't height in millimiters * 1000 not / 1000?
<bricker`LA> but I think I've seen it somewhere else
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<godd2> alex88 no, 1000 millimeters is 1 meter. 1000/1000 = 1
<tobago> alex88, no. 1 meter is 1000 millimeter
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<godd2> remember, you need lots of tiny things to make one big thing
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<bricker`LA> tmyk
<RubyPanther> bricker`LA: that is unary plus not the regular plus
<alex88> holy shit :) hate being just woke up :D
* alex88 goes in the corner
<tobago> godd2, RubyPanther what about comparing floats? see my example.
<RubyPanther> comparing is meaningless
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<RubyPanther> rounding is a real problem, in fact, a show-stopper
<godd2> tobago if the associativity property of addition holds, then that comparison should result in true
<RubyPanther> You just can't use floats wherever you have something smaller than an int ;) they are actually only useful for certain types of numbers
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<tobago> godd2, good point. the formula will be the same in any way.
<godd2> but RubyPanther is right, you'll want to be careful of weird rounding errors and make sure to round results to the nearest whatever you like when you get the chance
<RubyPanther> Humans place value on round numbers, BMI of 22.9 and 23 are not the same, and you'd probably never show a 22.99999999999999999 and if you did, the user would likely not see it as being 23
<bricker`LA> RubyPanther: ahhh
<tobago> godd2, RubyPanther do you mean to calculate in millimeters/gramm?
<godd2> >> 129.95 * 100
<eval-in> godd2 => 12994.999999999998 (https://eval.in/93215)
<RubyPanther> I have no ideas what mms has to do with using accurate math
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<godd2> >> (129.95*100).round
<eval-in> godd2 => 12995 (https://eval.in/93216)
<bricker`LA> RubyPanther: I think, perhaps, where I've seen it is when being redefined, i.e. `class Numeric; def +@; self + 1; end; end`
<bricker`LA> RubyPanther: thanks
<tobago> RubyPanther, just thought that way i could calculate using integers?
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<RubyPanther> tobago: Why kludge your numbers when Ruby gives an accurate decimal class already?
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<tobago> RubyPanther, Shall I use BigDecimal?
<RubyPanther> tobago: I probably would
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<godd2> tobago: it's okay to have differing opinions on the subject. Personally, I would go the integer route with smaller units.
<tobago> RubyPanther, so it comes to my first question: is there a nicer way than BigDecimal(weight.to_s)? preventing string conversion
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<godd2> whatever makes more sense to you. Just make sure you account for pitfalls either way
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<RubyPanther> in my dec_number gem I used a backwards coerce so that if I add a float to a dec_number it always gives back a dec_number. You can also monkeypatch BigDecimal to do that
<RubyPanther> tobago: The string conversion is harmless
<tobago> RubyPanther, o.k. so you woulf go for it, right?
<tobago> would
<RubyPanther> yeah
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<tobago> RubyPanther, thanks you for your helping answers and insights.
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<tobago> godd2, thank you also.
<godd2> no prob
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<Asitha> I'm wanting to use a text editor for my site, but didn't want to host any of the uploaded images there. Is there any gem you guys would recommend for me to use?
<Asitha> or even editor
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<godd2> Asitha you mean like on your server?
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<Asitha> yeah
<Asitha> I'm looking at using AWS's S3 service
<godd2> Ah I haven't used AWS. I just have a Linux VPS that I use Vim on.
<RubyPanther> Asitha: S3 is the canonical thing that gets recommended, yes
<Asitha> Is there any image uploading gem you would recommend I use with it then?
<Asitha> Can't really use paperclip since that's more of a single use uploader
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<godd2> Check out Carrierwave or Paperclip perhaps?
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<Asitha> Need something that works for an editor where multiple images will be uploaded
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<godd2> You mean users will be editing the images in their browser? Or just managing overall files?
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<Asitha> managing overall files
<Asitha> So basically they log on to the site
<Asitha> The want to contribute a post, they go to the editor
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<Asitha> Then in the editor, there's a button to insert an image - they select the local file, file is uploaded and a url is returned to be added to the editor
<godd2> is this for a rails app?
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<Asitha> yeah
<godd2> ah then try the folks at #rubyonrails
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<Asitha> ah right
<Asitha> thanks
<godd2> they have more working knowledge of that kinda stuff. No prob :)
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<Takumo> Hi all, I'm building a REST API Client Gem, and I'm wondering how to handle creating new resources...
<Takumo> i.e. r = MyGem::MyResource.new(data = {}); r.save
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<canton7-mac> see how the other REST gems have done it?
<Takumo> any good examples out there?
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<pontiki> maybe look at Savon, which isn't REST, but SOAP
<pontiki> but it's similar enough, maybe?
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<canton7-mac> httparty, mechanize (although it does more), rest-client
<canton7-mac> are the first that come to mind
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<pontiki> i wouldn't have included mechanize, but it could do
<Takumo> I should be more specific, I'm building a gem on top of Faraday to use a specific REST API
<canton7-mac> my understanding is that it does an absolute ton of stuff, one bit of which is being an http client
<pontiki> Savon I suggested because it is more of a wrapper/abstraction. i have to go look into rest-client
<pontiki> oh
<pontiki> yes you should be more specific
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<Takumo> Why the world needs another generic REST client gem would be beyond me :P
<pontiki> if there's some, there's always room for more
<Takumo> But yes, when I'm retrieving resources I've got a #from_response method which adds a reference to the client as an instance property of the resource
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<Takumo> I'm trying to find an example but all of these gems I can find are far more compelx than mine
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<apeiros> Takumo: why the world needed another programming language in 1990 is beyond me - there were dozens already. yet I'm happy ruby was created :)
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<Takumo> heh
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<Takumo> still, not sure how I can make MyGem::MyResource.new(data={}).save work , anyone able to take a look over my code and suggest?
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<jxport> Am I going mad
<Takumo> yes
<jxport> Wait for it
<jxport> ..Or was there a .second method like the .first
<jxport> :)
<jxport> For arrays, for instance
<apeiros> jxport: railsism
<jxport> apeiros: ffs.
<apeiros> ruby doesn't have Enumerable#second or Array#second
<jxport> I forget how much Rails goes beyond web-apps
<jxport> In fact I think that sort of stuff is really going above and beyond what it should
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<apeiros> there's a reason why we delegate even superficially "ruby" questions in the rails domain to #rubyonrails
<apeiros> rails warps enough of ruby to render some basic assumptions invalid. it has gotten better since rails 3, though.
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<jxport> I don't know what it is, but something about Rails intimidates me - like I don't really know what's going on.
<jxport> Padrino on the other hand seems sufficiently featureful, without me feeling like I'm involved in something I probably shouldn't be
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<mikecmpbll> ruby folk, i call upon your expertise. i'm having trouble getting a web page with Net::HTTP over SSL
<mikecmpbll> Errno::ECONNRESET: Connection reset by peer - SSL_connect
<mikecmpbll> I can get it in the browser just fine, and I can get other SSL pages with Net::HTTP
<Hanmac> in germany we have a politican named "peer" ... maybe he was the culpit? ;P
<mikecmpbll> doc = Net::HTTP.get(URI("https://some.web.service?wsdl")) # simple as
<Takumo> CONNRESET means the server terminated the connection without responding...
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<mikecmpbll> haha Hanmac :'D i hate him if it is.
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<mikecmpbll> Takumo: hmm. yeah I was thinking that too, I wonder why it's doing that though.
<mikecmpbll> must be something in my request
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<mikecmpbll> I can connect successfully using openssl in terminal -_-
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<cina> how can I load gems listed in a Gemfile?
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<Asitha> bundle install
<Asitha> bundle update
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<Asitha> ?
<shevy> help
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<cina> I have a ruby code, that uses the gems listed in a Gemfile, they are all installed, but not loaded/required/included in my code
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<Asitha> are you using rails?
<cina> no
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<cina> rails seems to do this: require 'bundler/setup' if File.exists?(ENV['BUNDLE_GEMFILE'])
<cina> in config/boot.rb
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<cina> to load gems listed in Gemfile
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<shevy> there is a channel #bundler btw, not everyone here on #ruby uses bundler (I don't, I hate bundler)
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<pontiki> h8ers gonna h9
<cina> shevy: thanks for mentioning #bundler
<workmad3> cina: 'require "bundler/setup"' will setup bundler, lock gems to the gemfile and load them
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<cina> workmad3: thank you -- so I need to set ENV['BUNDLE_GEMFILE'] to be the path of my Gemfile
<workmad3> cina: iirc, it'll default to ./Gemfile
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<workmad3> cina: so you should be able to just do 'require "bundler/setup" ' in your code, or do 'ruby -r bundler/setup <yourscript>.rb' to launch
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<kalleth> I can't figure out what side I fall down on on this
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<kalleth> what do you guys feel about using dependency injection to inject the current time into methods which operate on the current time?
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<pontiki> the latter is more versatile
<pontiki> and more easily tested
<kalleth> mm, okay
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<shevy> pontiki oh I have specific reasons - I don't need anything bundler gives me. I am quick to throw out code from other people if it does not work or just create my own projects :) Or I simply stick to the latest set of gems, which "gem" handles fine
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<shevy> bundler came out of the rails ecosystem
<pontiki> i don't really care, shevy :)
<pontiki> i just like h8ers gonna h9
<Hanmac> what shevy means it came directly out of the hell ;P
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<shevy> pontiki it's ok, it serves as explanation
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<depesz> hm .. i installed "gd2" gem, but how can I use it to load png file?
<depesz> I tried "require 'gd2'" but it fails with SyntaxError: /var/lib/gems/1.9.1/gems/gd2-1.1.1/lib/gd2.rb:46: syntax error, unexpected ':', expecting keyword_then or ',' or ';' or '\n'
<depesz> in the docs (http://rubydoc.info/gems/gd2/1.1.1/frames) i can't find how am I supposed to load it.
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<Hanmac> XD depesz the gd2 gem does not work for 1.9+ ;D ... that means it more than 3 years outdated
<depesz> ok. so what can/should I use, to load png, check some pixels in it, make some new png, and write it?
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<Hanmac> oh correction ... its more than 8 years old
<depesz> i tried to use "png" gem too, also failed.
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<depesz> so what is the correct way to work with images now?
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<pontiki> rmagick
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<depesz> thanks
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<jds> Anyone else struggling to install from rubygems at the moment?
<jds> "gem install blah" sits there for ages before dying with some variant of "no such name (https://api.rubygems.org/quick/Marshal.4.8/nokogiri-1.3.2-x86-mswin32.gemspec.rz)"
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<GreekFreak> hi all.
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<GreekFreak> I'm not sure if this is the right place, but have any of you found that sometimes vim crashes when trying to open ruby files (esp when trying to open said file with NERDTree of netrw)?
<MrPopinjay> Can't say I have
<MrPopinjay> Sounds like a buggy vim extension
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<GreekFreak> MrPopinjay, it's the ubuntu software centre one, and netrw is what comes with vim directly
<MrPopinjay> What is from the software centre?
<MrPopinjay> vim?
<MrPopinjay> Nerdtree is actually part of vim these days?
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<seoaqua> i got 'rspec not found' after i gem install rspec on Mac. any one can help,pls?
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<seoaqua> i installed ruby2.1 with homebrew. and there is no rspec at /usr/local/bin
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> why would it be at /usr/local/bin
<shevy> is ruby not at /usr/bin
<seoaqua> shevy: there is no rspec at /usr/bin. i think the user-installed soft should be at /usr/local/bin and u need to ln -s them to /usr/bin
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<shevy> aha. I did a global install through "gem install rspec" just now, rspec works and is at /usr/bin/rspec
<shevy> you could always try a manual install, the .gem is downloaded locally to the cache/gem/ subdir
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<tck9> i'm trying to install the breakpoint gem, but am getting this error message. any workarounds for this? http://pastebin.ca/2574132
<seoaqua> shevy: what's your system? is it MacOS?
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<seoaqua> shevy: i think the /usr/bin/rspec is a symbolic link to /usr/local/Cellar/ruby/2.1.0/bin/rspec. btw, i just found it here
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<Takumo> I'm wondering how to do a map/reduce type thing on an array of OpenStructs
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<Takumo> i.e. structs.reduce { :id => (1..10) , :name => /my regex/ , :flag => true , :numeric => less_than 3 }
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<shevy> seoaqua not mac, no, linux, but I don't even have or use /usr/local structure
<puppeh> can a too high RUBY_HEAP_MIN_SLOTS limit hurt the performance?
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<shevy> on gobolinux stat /usr/bin/ruby would always work and point to /Programs/Ruby/#{CURRENT_VERSION}
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<LiohAu> is there an easy way to print the "env" in ruby ?
<LiohAu> or should i execute the "env" sh command and print the output ?
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<seoaqua> shevy: this is my /usr/bin/ruby lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 76 9 23 20:54 ruby -> ../../System/Library/Frameworks/Ruby.framework/Versions/Current/usr/bin/ruby
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<seoaqua> LiohAu: p ENV ?
<seoaqua> LiohAu: do u mean this? maybe u could use awesome_print
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<shevy> seoaqua the Mac structure is really weird
<shevy> what goes into a Frameworks/ entry?
<shevy> and why is bin/ under Library/ ...
<seoaqua> LiohAu: you could either `VAR_A=VALUE_A ruby something.rb` or in your ruby program ENV['VAR_A']='VALUE_A'
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<shevy> LiohAu require 'pp'; pp ENV
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<LiohAu> seoaqua: "p ENV" i guess
<apeiros> I often do `p *ENV.sort`
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<LiohAu> p ENV is what i wanted thx :)
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<seoaqua> what's short for threads.each{|t|t.join} ? i remember it to be threads.each{:&join} but not really
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<shevy> threads.map(&:join) perhaps
<Takumo> seoaqua: or threads.collect(&:join)
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<Takumo> which will basically do x=[]; threads.map { |t| x << t.join }; x
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<seoaqua> shevy: Takumo: thanks
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<puppeh> can a too high RUBY_HEAP_MIN_SLOTS limit hurt the performance of a rails app?
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<shevy> ack
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<shevy> rails!
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<kraljev5> String#start_with? Regex
<kraljev5> does that exist?
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<kraljev5> I'd like to avoid modifying the regex
<kraljev5> that means prepending ^ or \A
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<angusiguess> Is unioning the regex for one use okay?
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<kraljev5> how would you do that?
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<angusiguess> Er, unioning is probably not the solution, but you could build one expression to match beginning of string and then use the existing one.
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<angusiguess> If something satisfies both it would be the same as if you'd prepended to the existing expression.
<kraljev5> I could call #to_s on a regex, do the magic, then cast it to regex again
<kraljev5> anything less elegant out there possibly?
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<joonty> hey all
<joonty> got an interesting error on ruby 2.0.0-p353
<pontiki> Takumo: collect and map are aliases
<joonty> `Dir.pwd` throws "Errno::ENOENT: No such file or directory - getcwd"
<joonty> anyone got any ideas about this one?
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<pontiki> are you running it in a directory that was deleted after you entered it?
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<pontiki> moved or renamed, also?
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<joonty> pontiki: yeh, that was it, thanks
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<soahccc> Does anyone know if I can safely "backport"/use ruby 2 Queue in 1.9.3? It seems they just have removed the duplication of the conditionvariable and added Thread.handle_interrupt(StandardError => :on_blocking) wrapper
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<benzrf> hello ruby people
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<kraljev5> is Regex mutable?
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<mathnode> Anyone know how I can parse a string argument with getoptlong? i.e. myapp.rb --arg1=value1 --arg2=value2 "and then this big old string with no --parameter"
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<pontiki> mathnode: is that the last arg? and is it actually a bound string like that?
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<pontiki> if so, you don't with getopt* or any other option parser. It's just an argment then, and when getoptlong is done, it would be whatever is left in ARGV
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<pontiki> also, mathnode, unless this is for learning purposes, there are better ways to go about doing a cli script
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<pontiki> thor, gli, methadone, slop
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<Zubin> is there any module in ruby for bluetooth and wireless communication?
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<canton7-mac> what level are you talking about? serial comms? sure. anything lower? probably not
<Zubin> no just simple bluetooth and wireless i mean wifi and bluetooth?
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<LadyRainicorn> What do you want to do?
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<mathnode> pontiki: yes that's the last arg, I got it just by sticking ARGV[0] into a string then set ARGV = []. Unfortunately this script must behave like the bash script it precedes.
<wc-> hi all, im having a lot of issues getting unicorn to host my ruby rest api w/ upstart
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<Zubin> create an application which supports bluetooth and wifi enabled chat for pc.
<wc-> ive seen a couple different ways of going about setting up the pre and post fork commands in the unicorn config and upstart config
<wc-> anyone have any personal recommendations / guides?
<Takumo> Hi I've got an array of hashes which all have a :project_id attribute
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<Takumo> how can I filter this array down to hashes where :project_id == a_value
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<pontiki> mathnode: ah so.
<hoelzro> Takumo: hashes.select { |h| h[:project_id] == a_value }
<LadyRainicorn> Do you mean you want it to use internet, or do magical custom things?
<Takumo> ah cool
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<pontiki> mathnode: you can do the last bit in one operation with `bigarg = ARGV.shift` as well
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<Zubin> a kind of loacl chat using bluetooth ports and wireless host service.
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<LadyRainicorn> Bluetooth is very short-range. Why is it useful to have a message app over it?
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<LadyRainicorn> It would be much easier to talk to the person a meter away from you.
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<Zubin> Its sort of project I need to develop for someone else so I was wondering?
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<Zubin> does ruby supports internet chat facilities?
<Rainicorn> Do you mean IP?
<Zubin> yes.
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<Rainicorn> Yes.
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<Zubin> ok and about bluetooth and wifi?
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<Rainicorn> Possibly, but I am almost certain you do not want that.
<mathnode> pontiki: oh ok, so don't reset ARGV, just shift?
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<Rainicorn> You just want to use the internet, right?
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<Rainicorn> Or are you actually want to send raw packets?
<Rainicorn> s/want/&ing
<shevy> ack
<sickweezle> syn
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<shevy> we have a Rainicorn and also a LadyRainicorn
<shevy> this seems to be like an invasion
<Zubin> anything will be useful. ya user has to choose what kind of communication channel he wants to use either internet or bluetooth or wifi.
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<Rainicorn> (If you do not kmow what thosw are, you do not want to send them.)
<Rainicorn> It is.
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<sickweezle> There may be three of me once I get to work.
<pontiki> mathnode: shift will return the first element an array and remove it from the array at the same time
<Rainicorn> I think you may not fully understand what sort of interface the OS presents to you.
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<Rainicorn> Therefore, you almost certainly just want TCPSocket.
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<canton7> Zubin, the user will get the bluetooth connected using the stuff provided by windows. then he'll tell you want COM port that bluetooth device is sitting on (or you can try and auto-discover that), then you can talk serial over that COM port
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<canton7> same with network stuff - the user sets up the network connection (wifi, etc) using windows' utilities, then you get to send data over whatever's been established
<Zubin> yes but configuring sockets isn't a problem for me. but I need to see if it supports or not.
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<Rainicorn> https://github.com/brandonprry/rubytooth may be helpful.
<Rainicorn> I am not sure if it is current.
<LastWhisper> sup guys - any of you guys familiar with factorygirl?
<Rainicorn> But do you really want to create a chat application ovwr Bluetooth?
<mathnode> pontiki: that is perfect thanks, also removed the next issue of having a 'gets' in there :P
<Rainicorn> Really no one will ever want that.
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<pontiki> Rainicorn: i might want to chat with myself on the phone while i'm at my desk...
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<Zubin> I have created an chat application based on .net framework in C#. but I want to translate some of the codes in ruby so I need to see if there is any packages or gems to support it.
<canton7-mac> Zubin, supports *what*?
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<canton7-mac> you haven't actually clarified that question yet
<Zubin> bluetooth, wifi controllers and tcp sockets.
<canton7-mac> define "wifi controllers"
<canton7-mac> what do you mean by that?
<LadyRainicorn> lol pontiki
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<pontiki> ruby is just a language. the standard library supports talking over all kinds of interfaces
<LadyRainicorn> But this is an insane idea.
<pontiki> that's Zubin's perogative, tho, is it not?
<LadyRainicorn> I suppose.
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<Zubin> LandyRainicorn, have you used whatsapp?
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<canton7-mac> Zubin, if you're asking if you can tell windows to connect to a specific wireless network from ruby, the answer is "probably not"
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<Zubin> thanks canton7 -mac that's what I needed to know. So now I will do it merrily in Java.
<LadyRainicorn> There is a fairly low level COM binding you could use I think
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<canton7-mac> Zubin, can you do that with java? Google's not bringing up anything if I ask it for ways to talk to the netive wifi api with java
<LadyRainicorn> Win32API
<canton7-mac> yeah, you could do it manually with the win32api
<Zubin> thanks all for the help. I am deeply oblidged.
<LadyRainicorn> It's probably a unique issue.
<Zubin> search for JSR-82.
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<canton7-mac> doubt anyone's wrapped it up yet
<LadyRainicorn> I suspect Win32API will be the easiest path.
<canton7-mac> Zubin, that's bluetooth access for embedded devices such as mobile phones?
<canton7-mac> which is entirely irrelevant?
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<Zubin> ok will see to it I have Bluetooth self development kit in java. I think it might help
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<rubidious> Hi. I'm new to ruby. I'm a bit confused as to what the :keyword (symbol?) is in the context of objects/methods. Can someone clarify or point me to documentation?
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<LadyRainicorn> Keywords aren't the same as symbols.
<rubidious> sory
<LadyRainicorn> A symbol looks like :this.
<rubidious> sorry*
<LadyRainicorn> Is that what you mean?
<rubidious> yes
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<rubidious> keyword was just an example (apparently a poorly chosen one)
<LadyRainicorn> Symbols are like immutable strings that are never garbage collected
<LadyRainicorn> They all exist at the same memory loxation.
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<rubidious> I see them used as methods and/or objects in tutorials though?
<LadyRainicorn> Think of it like #define constants in C.
<rubidious> or am I misunderstanding
<LadyRainicorn> You mean &:symbol?
<rubidious> no just :symbol (I may be wrong)
<rubidious> I've only just started learning ruby this morning
<LadyRainicorn> :symbol can't be called as a method, no.
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<LadyRainicorn> But you can send(:symbol)
<rubidious> ah so it's more like a static argument
<LadyRainicorn> Or public(:symbol)
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<rubidious> I think my issue is more understanding the syntax heh
<LadyRainicorn> ah ok
<rubidious> I was reading through the rails guide
<rubidious> and saw this
<rubidious> form_for :post, url: posts_path do |f|
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<LadyRainicorn> Internally those things would use method(:symbol) and call the resultant method.
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<rubidious> and got confused because they reference the 'identifying object' for the method form_for as the symbol ':post'
<rubidious> that makes much more sense to me (what you said)
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<rubidious> there seems to be a bit more abstraction in ruby than I'm used to
<rubidious> thanks for your help LadyRainicorn
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<LadyRainicorn> np good luck on your Ruby voyage.
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<LadyRainicorn> ugh wtf is draining my battery? ;-;
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<shevy> LadyRainicorn a rainbow!
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<LadyRainicorn> I've used like 30% already!
<LadyRainicorn> And I have ~9hrs left.
<LadyRainicorn> ; - ;
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<terrellt> LadyRainicorn: Hopes and dreams. Don't let it run out.
<estebanrules> is anyone here familiar with dRuby?
<terrellt> I've heard of it. Their site hasn't had an update since 2009.
* LadyRainicorn fills her battery with hopes and dreams.
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<estebanrules> I was reading a book on it last night, looks very interesting
<estebanrules> Hmm well the book I was reading was from last year
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<estebanrules> I believe its part of the stdlib
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<terrellt> Oh, not the ruby implementation, the class.
<estebanrules> oh ok
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<estebanrules> yes
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<terrellt> I've never used it directly.
<estebanrules> looks like one can do some very cool stuff
<shevy> I thought so too
<shevy> but I can never remember the syntax offhand
<estebanrules> I haven't seen anything very similar in other languages
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<estebanrules> I was just looking at a simple example last night where you could get a web server and client up in a few lines of code
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<estebanrules> anyone mind taking a look at some simple code for me? Just want to clarify something
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<estebanrules> It's from the Chris Pine book, chapter on classes
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<canton7-mac> post it, see who responds :)
<estebanrules> ok ;) http://goo.gl/tbUKCJ - the if statement, the code is "if @asleep", is that referring to the previous state of @asleep, which is true?
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<canton7-mac> yes
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<canton7-mac> although who knows that 'passageOfTime' does - it might set @asleep to false
<canton7-mac> s/that/what
<estebanrules> ok that's what I thought. Thank you
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<estebanrules> yeah
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<alex88> mmhh on class 1, streamer = Streamer.new(logger), class Streamer has def initialize(logger) @logger = logger end
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<alex88> but I get ArgumentError (method 'initialize': given 1, expected 0)
<alex88> what's the problem?
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<mwlang> Working on a begin/ensure block and was wondering… Does this method return line #5 or #7 as result if line #9 is omitted? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8562006
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<Guest2542> hello ruby people
<Guest2542> it is benzrf but with a different nick because screw nickserv
<LadyRainicorn> >> begin 1 ensure 2 end
<eval-in> LadyRainicorn => 1 (https://eval.in/93416)
<LadyRainicorn> mwlang: ^ #5 apparently
<mwlang> never mind, whipped up a test to figure it out. #5 is the answer.
<mwlang> kinda neat!
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<mwlang> A little surprised, though.
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<Guest2542> hey LadyRainicorn did you see the new-ish ep
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<LadyRainicorn> >> begin raise() rescue 1 ensure 3 end
<eval-in> LadyRainicorn => 1 (https://eval.in/93417)
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<LadyRainicorn> huh now that's odd
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<LadyRainicorn> Which one?
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<mwlang> LadyRainicorn: actually, that makes sense to me given how begin / ensure behaves.
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<Takumo> in ruby how do you check if two arrays contain the same stuff (i.e. [:id , :parent_id] == [:parent_id , :id] but not checking order)
<mwlang> begin / rescue, I've used enough to know the rescue block is the value returned
<Guest2542> Takumo: you could convert them to sets or somethin
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<DaniG2k> Takumo: array1 == array2
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<Takumo> or sort one, there's only two items ;)
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<Guest2542> Takumo: or you could do '(a1 - a2).empty?'
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<mwlang> but the ensure block's execution and return value is appearentry squashed (outside current context)
<brimstone> i have a loop going over an array, is there a way to have an array available inside the loop that doesn't contain the current array item?
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<DaniG2k> Takumo: [1,2,3].sort == [3,2,1].sort
<Guest2542> Takumo: youd also need to #uniq
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<LadyRainicorn> I guess ir does make sense.
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<mwlang> Takumo: [1,2,3] - [3,2,1] == []
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<LadyRainicorn> brimstone: Do magic.
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<brimstone> LadyRainicorn: i'm new to ruby, could you be more specific?
<Guest2542> brimstone: be more specific
<Guest2542> are you doing equality checking or something?
<Guest2542> cartesian product?
<LadyRainicorn> (i.e. create a wrapper class that prevents access to the specified element)
<Guest2542> brimstone: i assume you are doing a cartesian product?
<mwlang> actually, you probably need two tests… [1,2,3] - [3,2,1,4] == [] && [1,2,3] & [3,2,1,4] == [1,2,3]
<Guest2542> brimstone:
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<brimstone> Guest2542: this is to automate some vagrant stuff, no cartesian product that i'm aware
<Guest2542> a1.product(a2).each do |a1thing, a2thing|
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<Guest2542> next if a1thing.equal? a2thing
<Guest2542> # etc
<Guest2542> end
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<LadyRainicorn> (Alternatively, create a duplicate and mutate it on each iteration
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<brimstone> i'm thinking .each_index and creating a duplicate is the way instead
<brimstone> thanks LadyRainicorn, Guest2542
<LadyRainicorn> BEWARE: Do not dup on each iteration.
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<LadyRainicorn> (This will be very nasty for performance.)
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<Guest2542> brimstone: xy problem detected
<Guest2542> brimstone: pls elaborate on use csae
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<Guest2542> *case
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<daxroc> What format are gemfile.lock?
<brimstone> Guest2542: i'm defining a set of boxes in vagrant, then looping through each of them passing the current box as self, the other boxes as an array otherboxes into chef
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<Guest2542> sounds like a cartesian produc to meee
<Guest2542> *product
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<Guest2542> or not
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<Guest2542> hmmm
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<Guest2542> brimstone: how about 'boxes - [this_box]'
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<brimstone> Guest2542: does that work with arrays?
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<brimstone> arrays of hashes
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<Guest2542> brimstone: i would imagine so
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<Guest2542> brimstone: you need an array, and not iteration?
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<brimstone> i have an array of hashes, i need a hash and an array that doesn't contain that hash anymore
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<Guest2542> alright
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<brimstone> i'm using the dup and delete method now
<Guest2542> ew
<brimstone> seems to be working
<Guest2542> :\
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<brimstone> i'm open to a more slick way though
<Guest2542> hm
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<Guest2542> brimstone: i got little to nothin
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<Guest2542> :(
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<brimstone> ok, thanks for trying
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<LadyRainicorn> brimstone: pop and insert
<LadyRainicorn> delete is fine
<LadyRainicorn> But yeah, just make sure not to create a new array every time
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<LadyRainicorn> (The array-elem method does that btw.)
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<Guest2542> array-elem?
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<benzrf> fuckin finally
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<brimstone> LadyRainicorn: i like that idea, let's see if that works out
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<LadyRainicorn> It's very very very bad for performance.
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<LadyRainicorn> (O(n^2))
<brimstone> so i'd just box = boxes.pop(index) right?
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<LadyRainicorn> The correct solution is to insert and delete the element you need every time.
<LadyRainicorn> Yep.
<brimstone> now box is my current hash, and boxes is now missing that index?
<LadyRainicorn> And then make sure to insert it back once you're done.
<brimstone> right, boxes.insert(index,box) at the bottom of the loop
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<Mon_Ouie> Takumo: You can use the Set class to represent collections that don't have duplicate elements and where order doesn't matter
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<Mon_Ouie> (well, if it's only 2-element arrays it doesn't really matter what you do)
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<brimstone> huh, i'm not sure the index from array.each_index is an integer
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<DaniG2k> jeez
<DaniG2k> getting tired of my job
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<DaniG2k> im thinking of going into rails dev
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<DaniG2k> or ruby dev
<DaniG2k> but I'm a junior programmer
<DaniG2k> :-\ might be problematic
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<DaniG2k> does anyone here have a junior ruby job?
<DaniG2k> junior ruby dev?
<DaniG2k> or junior rails?
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<xybre> DaniG2k: Not the best intro if you're actually looking for work ;)
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<DaniG2k> xybre: thats true
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<DaniG2k> xybre: then again I need to start somewhere
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<shevy> OFFER YOUR SOUL, SLAVE!
<workmad3> DaniG2k: didn't you say a little while ago that you were really glad that you didn't code full time because it would drive you crazy? :)
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<DaniG2k> workmad3: that is also true
<shevy> PEOPLE'S OPINION CAN CHANGE QUICKLY!
<DaniG2k> workmad3: although the pay is good
<shevy> hehe
<atmosx> she drives me craaaazy
<atmosx> or was it he drives me craaazy?
<DaniG2k> workmad3: how do you remember everything? wtf are you
<shevy> atmosx noone remembers songs before the year 2000
<shevy> workmad3 has a big brain
<DaniG2k> but a small...
<DaniG2k> ego
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<workmad3> DaniG2k: I'll offer you two alternatives - 1) my memory is oddly peculiar and remembers the weirdest specifics about things, or 2) I spend a lot of time regexing through IRC logs when talking to people ;)
<DaniG2k> workmad3: you regex through irc logs? jeez
<workmad3> dammit, I should have made the lie more obvious... :P
<brimstone> how do you get the type of a variable to print?
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<brimstone> surprisingly, there's not a .type method
<Takumo> .inspect
<workmad3> brimstone: .class
<workmad3> brimstone: or .inspect
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<workmad3> brimstone: also, in ruby variables don't have types... objects have classes
<brimstone> thanks, .class looks like what i want
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<DaniG2k> brimstone .class ?
<pragmatism> Morning all
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<workmad3> brimstone: a variable just holds a reference to an object ;)
<Mon_Ouie> Though inspect is to print general information about an object, there's no requirement for it to print the class name (e.g. integers, strings, symbols, etc. don't print it)
<RubyPanther> Wait, they still made songs after 2000?
<workmad3> RubyPanther: no, they only made crap after 2000
* DaniG2k agrees
<RubyPanther> oh, okay, that's what I thought lol
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<RubyPanther> I just remembered, there was one good album after that... the poignant guide soundtrack!
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<DaniG2k> im out
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<brimstone> can anyone tell me why this is failing? slexy.org/view/s20z8pizOl
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<atmosx> workmad3: I disagree, there are great songs after 2000 in almost all categories, what kind of music do you like?
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<workmad3> atmosx: way to take a joke seriously and beat it to death with literalism :P
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<shevy> wasn't workmad3 born when the beatles still were alive?
<workmad3> shevy: hahahaha
<workmad3> shevy: no
<workmad3> shevy: a good percentage of my favourite music is older than I am ;)
<shevy> there are some cool songs from pre-2000 ... "Insomnia" from faithless in the year 1995. I hear it when I can't get any sleep
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<Marfi> hello . Please help me with xml
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<Marfi> How I read text from xml and each element into this text . example: <txt fuj="1">This is <b>text</b>, and <b>not</b></txt><txt>Next</txt> How I can read each element = txt, b,txt b.....
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<atmosx> workmad3: AM by the Arctic Monkeys is awesome
<atmosx> and it's 2013
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<DouweM> Yeah, AM is great
<atmosx> Seven Nation Army and "Somebody Told me" are after 2000 and these are just a few. Of course there are loads of shit but there's good music too.
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<atmosx> I'm currently listening to: I Wanna Be Yours by Arctic Monkeys from the album AM
<atmosx> see?
<atmosx> lol
<atmosx> I wanna beeee yourrsss
<DouweM> I just put on Do I Wanna Know :)
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<atmosx> Do I wanna knowwww
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* atmosx is listening to Arctic Monkeys — Do I Wanna Know?, from the album AM [Song] [4:32 mins] [played 38 times]
<workmad3> atmosx: put down the baseball bat
<workmad3> atmosx: the joke has suffered enough
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<atmosx> workmad3: why is that? What band do you consider great, let us know so we can trash it.
<atmosx> workmad3: the beatles?
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<atmosx> crawling back to youuuuu, ever thought of calling when you've had a feww?????
<workmad3> atmosx: I'm not trashing bands
<atmosx> workmad3: no, I do.
<workmad3> atmosx: I was making a goddamn joke
<atmosx> workmad3: you pick them!
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<atmosx> workmad3: I'm just teasing youuu, love trashing the beatles though
<workmad3> atmosx: fine... I'm a big fan of rebecca black, allison gold and myley cyrus! :P
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<atmosx> a friend of mine is ... you know crazy about them and the stones and we were trying to find arguments to trash them (not very easy, but doable)
<Marfi> i need each elements
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<atmosx> workmad3: Cyrus, I listen everyone talking about this little lady but I don't know not even 1 song she sings... I mean I don' t eve know how she looks like
<atmosx> workmad3: I don't know the other two, not even by name
<atmosx> lol
<workmad3> atmosx: that's ok, they're all actually shit
<workmad3> atmosx: and 2 of them are only famous through memes
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<atmosx> I see
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<workmad3> atmosx: I'm really more of a fan of some classic rock, then various forms of metal
<atmosx> r u mine is a masterpiece
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<atmosx> workmad3: I was too, when I was younger. Now it doesn't matter anymore, the kind. I think there's *good* and *bad* in every kind of music. Of course I don't like everything, but generally speaking.. You can find quality everywhere
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<atmosx> workmad3: I saw metallica live in 1998 iirc
<DouweM> I love Knee Socks as well. Not sure what itis is but I can't get enough of it
<atmosx> workmad3: although I don't like any of their post-92 albums
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<atmosx> I like the Dire Straits, it's the guitar and the lyrics (i.e. your latest trick)
<workmad3> atmosx: I've only ever encountered 1 metallica song I like :)
<atmosx> workmad3: which one?
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<atmosx> workmad3: the metal bands i was *really* listening were: Metallica, Iron Maiden and Dream Theater (later on).
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<atmosx> I need to configure nginx properly and I'm so bored.
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<atmosx> blah, I'll do next week
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<workmad3> atmosx: Enter Sandman for metallica... I like a fair bit of Maiden, I enjoy some Dream Theater, sometimes I like some cradle of filth, murderdolls, thus defiled
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<workmad3> atmosx: what sort of config :)
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<atmosx> workmad3: mod_security and put everything (I have 2 virtual hosts, actually only 1 virtual host... since) on a freebsd jail.
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<workmad3> atmosx: ah, I haven't gone quite that paranoid with my nginx config :)
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<workmad3> atmosx: but then, I've gone for a VM setup where there's not much on each node
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<chipotle> anyone here in the boston area?
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<atmosx> workmad3: yeah I know, most people wouldn't bother. I just want to make sure nothing goes rogue without me noticing.
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<workmad3> atmosx: maybe you should look @ apparmour and HIDS setups for that?
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<atmosx> workmad3: the problem with IDSs is that you have to actually... install and forge the system. Because at every update there's an entire procedure (policy) that you need to follow which complciates things.
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<atmosx> workmad3: apparmour is linux specific iirc
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<atmosx> workmad3: so you are both a developer and sys-admin?
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<workmad3> atmosx: more devops than sys-admin
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<workmad3> atmosx: had to learn that side of things in order to set up infrastructure for various things
<atmosx> workmad3: interesting
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<atmosx> cool
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<workmad3> atmosx: so currently our nodes have ossec installed by default, talking to a central server that emails me (probably about 50 times a day because I haven't set up the alert levels properly yet) about violations :)
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<atmosx> workmad3: is it any good?
<LastWhisper> hey guys
<LastWhisper> what does "before_save :block_write"
<LastWhisper> mean?
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<atmosx> I had deployed snort and samhain which is probably a little bit old now
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<LadyRainicorn> LastWhisper: #rails
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<LastWhisper> woops :>
<DouweM> #rubyOnRails even
<LadyRainicorn> Both exist, confusingly.
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<LastWhisper> yea im already in the #RubyOnRails
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<LadyRainicorn> (and are not aliases)
<workmad3> atmosx: it seems reasonable... I considered snort, but running on digital ocean, so I didn't fancy having to try to set things up to filter out all the background noise as they don't have proper private networks for your VMs
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<DouweM> LadyRainicorn: but there, one is clearly the "real"/active one. The real confusion is with #ruby/#ruby-lang ;)
<workmad3> atmosx: at some point, I need to badger work to pick up a raspberry pi and some wifi dongles so I can play around with building cheap wifi monitors :)
<Marfi> hello anybody can help me with xml? how I can parse each element of "txt" http://dark-code.bulix.org/6s5pf1-85495
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<LadyRainicorn> #rails is real
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<LadyRainicorn> and active
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<workmad3> LadyRainicorn: #rails isn't particularly active
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<workmad3> LadyRainicorn: unless things have changed since I was last in there
<DouweM> oh is it? I just saw the topic having been set in 2009 :/
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<atmosx> workmad3: the RPi are awesome, I am going to open a medical office next month in Greece (shrug) and I found an RPi bundle for monitoring blood pressure, etc. Could be integrated in a (non existant yet) web-app :D
<LadyRainicorn> anyway ×WHYDOESITEXIST.
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<atmosx> workmad3: I already set up 2 digital signage systems with 2 Pi's that's another possible business where I live
<workmad3> LadyRainicorn: because IRC channels get created on the fly by the first person who /joins it
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<shevy> can you join 0
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<LadyRainicorn> #0?
<LadyRainicorn> Yes.
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<shevy> you can't!
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<shevy> well
<shevy> perhaps ponicorns can
<shevy> but regular people can't
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<LadyRainicorn> I can!
<LadyRainicorn> And I did.
<openstandards> exit
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<shevy> openstandards no!
<LadyRainicorn> yay ponicorn magic!
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<LadyRainicorn> opensstandards: You must not exit from ponicornland.
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<havenwood> shevy: a ponicorn is a corn on the cob with the head and tail of a pony?
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<LadyRainicorn> No.
<LadyRainicorn> A ponicorn is me.
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<kamioool> Anyone know why when i write in console "rails s" that create new project name "s" not start server?
<MrZYX> #rubyonrails (and you're probably not inside a rails project)
<shevy> havenwood it's those strange thing on a rainbow
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<kamioool> don@don-desktop:~/kamioool$ ls
<kamioool> app config.ru Gemfile.lock node README.rdoc test
<kamioool> bin db lib public s tmp
<kamioool> config Gemfile log Rakefile server vendor
<shevy> ack
<atmosx> kamioool: that should start the server iirc
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<kamioool> somthing happend bad when i restart my system
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<kamioool> i think i shuld install rubu and rails again
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<shevy> poor guy
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<shevy> I would uninstall rubu as well
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<pragmatism> rubu stinks
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<pragmatism> #fuckrubu #yolo
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<iliketurtles> If I place a `require` statement outside of a module definition will it be available inside classes nested within the module? ie: https://gist.github.com/Lordnibbler/c51a82c9c5bf6cb5a45c
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<kaldrenon> I'm writing tests with Test::Unit, and I'm more familiar with RSpec - does Test::Unit have a technique for 'grouping' tests that's comparable to RSpec's context ?
<MrZYX> iliketurtles: require isn't context aware or dependent in any way
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<iliketurtles> MrZYX: so its just a matter of preference then?
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<MrZYX> yes
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<iliketurtles> it would seem best to have them at the top of the file to avoid not seeing them
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<MrZYX> I agree
<iliketurtles> MrZYX: thanks :)
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<fth5665> Microsoft Destroys Bitcoin Mining Botnet Sefnit http://cur.lv/6n0su
<pragmatism> kaldrenon: describe blocks, I blieve
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<pragmatism> That may be minitest though
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<kaldrenon> pragmatism: I'll try it - vim doesn't recognize it as a keyword, but Ruby doesn't care what vim thinks.
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<pragmatism> True story
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<pragmatism> I wonder if you can update the Ruby Vim to see it
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<kaldrenon> Something I have installed in Vim supports context and describe for rspec, but I'm not even sure which plugin is doing that.
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<zcreative> Is anybody familiar with creating ACH files for sending to banks?
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<pragmatism> kaldrenon: hmm. Let me know if you figure it out, I'm in the process of switching over to VIM
<pragmatism> And that's gonna be pretty useful
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<Morrolan> Switching over from what?
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<kaldrenon> pragmatism: Looks like rake test has no problem with a describe block
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<pragmatism> Cool
<pragmatism> Didja get the highlighting figured out?
<kaldrenon> pragmatism: not yet, but I'll let you know if I do
<pragmatism> Awesome, thank you.
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<havenwood> bnagy: they fixed Queue on trunk :) (it was affecting ConditionVariable too!)
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<kaldrenon> pragmatism: 1) turns out I was using minitest and didn't realize it (writing a few quick tests for an app where I haven't done much test writing) -- 2) https://github.com/sunaku/vim-ruby-minitest
<kaldrenon> https://github.com/vim-ruby/vim-ruby supports regular Test::Unit syntax in vim
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<pragmatism> kaldrenon: Perfect! Thanks. Minitest is a great way to go, esp. in Ruby >= 2
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<lectrick> Is there a gem out there that is about a hundred times lighter than Rails and JUST lets you build REST API's?
<lectrick> Or is it easier to just roll-my-own solution
<lectrick> maybe as a Rack app
<MrZYX> sinatra?
<Morrolan> Sinatra?
<Morrolan> Hah. :P
<lectrick> Is there something even thinner than Sinatra?
<Morrolan> Rack.
<MrZYX> Rack
<MrZYX> :D
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<Morrolan> \o/
<lectrick> So basically, directly on Rack. OK fair enough :)
<lectrick> you guys are hilariously in sync today
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<Morrolan> Quite. :P
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<blackmesa> hi all. I thought If put "include FileUtils" in my class I could leave the FileUtils out in "FileUtils.cd(File.dirname(__FILE__))". but I get undefined method on 'cd'
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<havenwood> there also almost_sinatra, which is 6 lines on top of Rack :P, heh: https://github.com/rkh/almost-sinatra/blob/master/almost_sinatra.rb
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<havenwood> lectrick: or NYNY: https://github.com/alisnic/nyny#readme
<pragmatism> blackmesa: FileUtils isn't a namespace, it's the name of a class.
<MrZYX> blackmesa: they may not be defined as module functions
<pragmatism> You're calling a class method, which is not callable that way.
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<apeiros> pragmatism: FileUtils is a module
<apeiros> not a class
<pragmatism> oh word
<pragmatism> I kid
<lectrick> havenwood: lol at the "almost sinatra"
<apeiros> blackmesa: it depends on where you call `cd` and where you did the include
<havenwood> lectrick: there's a 5-line almost_rack to go along
<havenwood> lectrick: 11 lines and unicorn, g2g
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<blackmesa> apeiros: right now outside any method in my class
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<apeiros> blackmesa: I don't want to riddle. gist it.
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<apeiros> blackmesa: yeah, that doesn't work
<apeiros> you'd need `extend FileUtils` there
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<apeiros> include FileUtils adds the methods as instance methods
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<apeiros> but you use it as a class method there
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* pragmatism feels partially validated
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<apeiros> pragmatism: so I shouldn't tell you that your feeling is for all the wrong reasons? :D
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<blackmesa> apeiros: thx. now I also know the reason when to use include or extend :-)
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<apeiros> blackmesa: there are more reasons for extend than this one ;-)
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<lectrick> havenwood: where's the almost-rack? :)
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<blackmesa> apeiros: now it doesnt work with 'mv' inside a method. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7b8a486a9101465d4624
<lectrick> havenwood: What's the point of rand/321 in https://github.com/rkh/almost-rack/blob/meister/almost-rackup ?
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<havenwood> lectrick: i dunno
<lectrick> maybe a log line identifier
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<richo> Does anyone know offhand if there's hooks in rugged to hash an object, but not write it to the ODB?
<richo> I'm not spotting anything offhand.
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<apeiros> blackmesa: well, extend adds FileUtils methods only as class methods
<apeiros> if you want to use them in class and instance scope, you have to add it to both of those scopes
<apeiros> extend for the class scope, include for the instance scope
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<lxsameer> how can i force sprockets ro compress my assets ?
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<apeiros> lxsameer: wrong channel?
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<lxsameer> apeiros: no since, there is no channel for sprockets, I asked here hop some one know about it
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<apeiros> sprockets is rails, I'd say…
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<Fractional> Got any good documents for naming counter variables used for looping? Instead of the usual i, j, k etc.
<apeiros> name variables after what they are
<apeiros> what they represent
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<Fractional> apeiros: Yes, do you have any examples?
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<jonno11> Hi guys! Ruby RegEx problem here... I'm a n00b so apologies. https://gist.github.com/jonlambert/97c5bbebf8bc9e81dad4
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<apeiros> Fractional: no, not off-hand
<apeiros> jonno11: do NOT use regexp to parse xml. use an xml parser.
<apeiros> jonno11: like e.g. Nokogiri
<jonno11> apeiros: I know, it's more for a quick experiment!
<jonno11> apeiros: For now, do you know why this issue is happening?
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<Fractional> apeiros: What do you think about that?
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<havenwood> jonno11: m = content.xml
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<havenwood> jonno11: are you doing a File.read or something?
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<havenwood> jonno11: check that `m` is what you think it is
<jonno11> havenwood: It's pseudo haha
<jonno11> havenwood: it is, it was more for example purposes..
<apeiros> Fractional: I'd probably call it inner_ and outer_
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<havenwood> jonno11: still, i worry your issue is with `m` not with the regex because it works fine
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<apeiros> jonno11: with plain // a . does not match newlines
<apeiros> you need //m to have . match newlines too
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* Hanmac is currently reshaping his RAID ... that could take a while ;P
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<jonno11> havenwood: Trust me, the content is the same. I've tested
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<havenwood> jonno11: whew! :P
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<havenwood> >> "<LineStatus ID=\"4\" StatusDetails=\"\">\n <BranchDisruptions />\n <Line ID=\"4\" Name=\"Jubilee\" />\n <Status ID=\"GS\" CssClass=\"GoodService\" Description=\"Good Service\" IsActive=\"true\">\n <StatusType ID=\"1\" Description=\"Line\" />\n </Status>\n</LineStatus>"; m.scan(/Jubilee"\s\/>\s.*Description="(.*)"\s/)
<eval-in> havenwood => undefined local variable or method `m' for main:Object (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/93513)
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<havenwood> >> m = "<LineStatus ID=\"4\" StatusDetails=\"\">\n <BranchDisruptions />\n <Line ID=\"4\" Name=\"Jubilee\" />\n <Status ID=\"GS\" CssClass=\"GoodService\" Description=\"Good Service\" IsActive=\"true\">\n <StatusType ID=\"1\" Description=\"Line\" />\n </Status>\n</LineStatus>"; m.scan(/Jubilee"\s\/>\s.*Description="(.*)"\s/)
<eval-in> havenwood => [["Good Service"]] (https://eval.in/93514)
<havenwood> jonno11: ^
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<havenwood> uhg, spam :(
<havenwood> sry
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<havenwood> jonno11: Do you get that same result? Is it not what you expected? Maybe I just need coffee!!
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<jonno11> havenwood: Hold on, I'll gist the whole file!
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<havenwood> oh, it was only part of the file?
<havenwood> what is this mysterious `m` :P
<benzrf> hows it goin
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<benzrf> havenwood: YOU CANT PARSE HTML WITH REGEX
* benzrf swats havenwood
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<havenwood> benzrf: caveat already been given, (s)he is trying to understand for learning experiment only
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<benzrf> oh
<jonno11> benzrf: ^ that... :)
<jonno11> havenwood: ^
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<havenwood> benzrf: still, it is horrifying though, isn't it? :O
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<havenwood> ohhh xml...
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<jonno11> haha
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<benzrf> havenwood: yes ;-;
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<benzrf> for the love of god use nokogiri
<jonno11> benzrf: I am
<apeiros> jonno11: you've been told what the problem and what the solution is
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<apeiros> jonno11: if you don't read the replies, why bother to ask?
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<jonno11> apeiros: It's more I don't want to leave it if I don't know why it didn't work! And what replies?
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<apeiros> jonno11: read the backlog. both havenwood and I told you the same.
<havenwood> apeiros: /m
<havenwood> apeiros: i saw
<nobitanobi> If I want to use select on an Array, but the condition is pretty complex (I have a method for it). How can I use that method on the block? - Like so: images = images.select { |img| have_same_contrast(img, @image) }
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<bnagy> just like that
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<nobitanobi> bnagy, uhm. undefined method `have_same_contrast' for main:Object (NoMethodError)
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<havenwood> apeiros: oh, right - i'm just all over the place today - gunna quit typing till i get coffee >.>
<apeiros> havenwood: lol
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<bnagy> nobitanobi: sooo define it? Or invoke it on something with it defined?
<nobitanobi> bnagy, never mind.
<nobitanobi> I was defining it
<nobitanobi> after the block
<jonno11> havenwood, apeiros: but why does it work in Rubular and not Ruby?
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<jonno11> apeiros: http://rubular.com/r/xV3pgShltf - with /m
<jonno11> apeiros: http://rubular.com/r/yWRpGBOqvz without
<nobitanobi> Anyone quite familiar with RMagick here?
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<apeiros> maybe because one has \r\n as newline and the other \n.
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<jonno11> apeiros: What do you mean?
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<apeiros> jonno11: I see that you match the newline with \s
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<apeiros> jonno11: you said the content was the same
<apeiros> I suspect you inspected it visually
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<apeiros> so I suspect something in the whitespace (not visible just like that) differs
<jonno11> apeiros: So in one Rubular permalink, it has /r/n, and the other it has /n?
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<apeiros> I'd suspect it the other way round
<apeiros> also \r\n, not /r/n
<jonno11> sorry \*
<jonno11> lol yeah
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<jonno11> all I've done, is literally added \m
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<jonno11> apeiros: try adding and removing it
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<agent_white> Afternoon folks
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<centrx> Ahoy
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<Hanmac> shevy did you use raid before?
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<maximveksler> I have a large block of text, which I want to join by specific line termination chars. combining full sentences from fragments (explained here) https://gist.github.com/maximveksler/ab941ad3017835d8901b what would be the most elegant / smart way to implement this in ruby? my current naive solution is checking each line what it's last char is, and if it's not any or the required ones (].?!) appending to a local buffer which is being dumped once a matching
<maximveksler> char is found.
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<RutabegaShuffle> I have a question
<RutabegaShuffle> I have a text file of words seperates by /n (so a word every line) and I want to read that file into a hash
<RutabegaShuffle> how would I go about this?
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<bnagy> keyed by what?
<RutabegaShuffle> entries = File.read(path).split("\n")
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<RutabegaShuffle> I'm not quite sure myself
<RutabegaShuffle> it's kind of a learning process for me
<bnagy> ok well sort yourself out and then ask a question that has an answer :)
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<bnagy> a Hash is a structure where you can look up values by a key
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<Hanmac> maximveksler: give me a bit of time, i wil fix that
<maximveksler> Hanmac: fix what?
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<Hanmac> i mean fix your problem
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<maximveksler> Hanmac: hmmm. ok.
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<bnagy> your naive solution sounds fine to me
<bnagy> a 'real' naive solution would be to read it all and then split by the terminators and join with "\n"
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<bnagy> but yours is 'better', although more code and probably less clear
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<maximveksler> bnagy: I like that, but splitting alone is not enough because the instructor might say "Ok? Good I see everyone got it"
<maximveksler> this by itself is 1 sentence not 2.
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<maximveksler> so I need to verify it's the last char of the sentence.
<bnagy> uh.. no it's two sentences
<bnagy> that's why Good is capitalized
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<bnagy> so that sounds more like a rule to merge sentences below a length limit
<maximveksler> well yeah, but then it's a really small sentence. plus I've just made it up, as an example.
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<maximveksler> yeah, I guess a length would also be cool as a merge rule
<Hanmac> maximveksler: try this: puts File.read("pointdata").scan(/.+?[\.!?\]]\n?/m).map{|s|s.chomp.gsub("\n"," ")}
<RutabegaShuffle> hi bnagy!
<RutabegaShuffle> as the key, and each one has a garbage value
<RutabegaShuffle> so what if I were to have the word
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<RutabegaShuffle> @bnagy
<Hanmac> bnagy: you look like some one that used raid before .. did you already reshape an existing raid ? ;P
<maximveksler> Hanmac: ok reading it now. will update
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<bnagy> what do you mean reshape? I've added volumes and replaced dead ones
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<bnagy> but I don't know if I've migrated raid levels
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<bnagy> except maybe like 1 -> 10
<Hanmac> bnagy: i am currently "reshaping" and RAID5 ... from 4 to 5 volumes ;P
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<bnagy> oh that should be trivial
<Hanmac> it is ... but it take a long long time ;P
<maximveksler> Hanmac: I liked that. what "/m" in the regex means?
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<bnagy> but usually your raid card would do it, so the process is specific to that
<bnagy> RutabegaShuffle: so you just want to see if a word is in the hash?
<RutabegaShuffle> yessir
<Hanmac> maximveksler: m means that . also parses new lines ... thats why need to mark .+ as non greedy with ?
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<bnagy> the clearest is to iterate the list and do word_hsh[word]=true inside the block
<Hanmac> bnagy: software raid (because different parts has different raid levels=
<bnagy> like linux mdadm stuff?
<bnagy> lulz
<REdOG> is there some way to get linecache19 working with 1.9.1?
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<REdOG> It fails to build
<bnagy> y u no lvm noob
<maximveksler> Hanmac: sound very cool. will get back to this 1st thing tomorrow morning. thank you.
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<Hanmac> bnagy i have lvm ... in my raid (so 5 Disks -> 1 Raid -> LVM)
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<bnagy> using software raid
<Hanmac> yeah ...
<bnagy> meh, fair enough I guess. I'm not a giant fan of md, but hey I've used it
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<bnagy> anyway, was there are actual question anywhere?
<bnagy> apart from 'this sux, it's slow'?
<bnagy> cause yeah, raid5 rebuilds are slow cause they have to move a shitload of data around - more so if the volume is almost full
<Hanmac> any idea howto get the reshaping faster?
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<bnagy> take the data out of it
<RutabegaShuffle> @bnagy, in this case would I still need to pass the file in as an array?
<bnagy> RutabegaShuffle: nah just iterate the file by lines
<RutabegaShuffle> and then loop the values into the hash?
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<bnagy> File.foreach for example
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<RutabegaShuffle> alright, thanks bnagy, I'll try this out
<bnagy> there are like 5 ways to read a file line by line
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<bnagy> Hanmac: uh but don't abort the rebuild if it has already started
<bnagy> o_0
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<Hanmac> bnagy: yeah i know ... once started there is no save way to stop it ... like americas finance crisis ;D
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<Hanmac> bnagy: it only would be problematic when i want to replace then with newer disks (like HDD with twice that much space) ...
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<bnagy> hm.. I don't know what's fastest there
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<bnagy> I think I would probably just create a new volume and then move the stuff
<bnagy> unless you are short of physical connectors, then you can just fail out the small ones disk by disk and rebuild with a big one as a replacement
<bnagy> super fiddly though, esp if it's not nice hotswap hardware
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<bnagy> I cloned a whole cluster once by 'rebuilding' from a raid-1 boot disk in each new server in turn :/
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<Hanmac1> bnagy: hm ... when i make the big ones into a new raid ... and then add them to the same LVM (so 2 Raids -> 1LVM) ... wouldnt it work that i let the LVM move the data from one Raid to another for me?
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<jonno11> Stepping into Nokogiri... this isn't working at all, it's so frustrating and so simple. Can't work out why. Any ideas? https://gist.github.com/jonlambert/cbd23cba38cba6c61c30
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<bnagy> Hanmac1: I.. don't know why it would do that if both raids are inside the same volume
<bnagy> but tbh I am not very good at lvm, I've only done super basic stuff
<Hanmac> hm i asking in #lvm maybe they know more
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<bnagy> I would mount both devices and just mv, the decomission the old device
<bnagy> then add the new one to the volume
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<bnagy> but yeah, some other place is probably better :)
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<Hanmac> jonno11: i tested it with the content.xml ... it works for me
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<jonno11> Hanmac: Hmm that's weird
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<jonno11> Hanmac: Why do you think it works with content.xml and not with the HTTP response?
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<Hanmac> i dont know
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<RutabegaShuffle> @bnagy, just wanted to say thanks, I got it
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<bnagy> huzzah! :)
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<jonno11> Hanmac: So frustrating
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<bnagy> if in doubt, check your raw inputs
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<jonno11> Does anybody else have any ideas? I'm stepping into Nokogiri... this isn't working at all, it's so frustrating and so simple. When testing by pasting in content.xml, it works fine. But it wont parse the HTTP response. Any ideas? https://gist.github.com/jonlambert/cbd23cba38cba6c61c30
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<bnagy> pasting the same question over and over will just annoy people
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<jonno11> bnagy: I'm sure - I've just modified it.
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<jonno11> bnagy: It's an updated version of the question.
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<shevy> xml annoys people too!
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<jonno11> shevy: XML might be my most hated thing
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<shevy> :D
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<benzrf> sup yo
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<pontiki> did jonno11 leave??
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<shevy> yeah
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<centrx> bummer
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<shevy> Hanmac I did not use raid before I think
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<law> hey all, how am I butchering my case-statement here? http://pastebin.com/2DvuBjnc
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<centrx> law, You are using expressions in the when statement
<centrx> So you do case when filesize.to_i < ARGV[2]
<shevy> law no > in case when menus
<centrx> not case filesize.to_i when < ARGV[2]
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<centrx> incomplete expressions I should say
<shevy> law you use case when like if/else here which is wrong
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<Hanmac> case when without value with case looks so wrong
<shevy> law in your case, I would go back to classical if/else, it will be easier for this
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<law> fair enough, thanks guys
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<shevy> case when is usually rather flexible
<shevy> x = foo; case x; when /^f/; puts 'yup starts with a f!'; end
<shevy> oops
<shevy> x = 'foo'; case x; when /^f/; puts 'yup starts with a f!'; end
<pragmatism> shevy: I did actually read up looking for the definition of foo
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<pragmatism> Stop playing with my heart.
<Jason> hmm
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<Hanmac1> shevy & law: what would work: case filesize.to_i when proc{|v| v < ARGV[2] } :P
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<centrx> awful
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<centrx> Hanmac, Why not have it save the value to a file and then read from the file in the when expression?
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<Hanmac1> centrx: better than "case when" without case variable
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<havenwood> or >.>: when 0..ARGV[2]; when ARGV[3]..Float::INFINITY
<havenwood> \o/
<Hanmac> hmyeah thats nice too
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<havenwood> maybe half and half
<havenwood> keep folks on their toes
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<whomp_> how do i do a method literal for Pathname.new? i tried array.map(&:Pathname.new) but it didn't work
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<centrx> whomp_, method literal?
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<havenwood> nice rubytapas today
<havenwood> >> { best_bet: 20 }.merge({ best_bet: 40 }) { |_, x, y| (x + y) / 2 }
<eval-in> havenwood => {:best_bet=>30} (https://eval.in/93636)
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<benzrf> havenwood: rubytapas ?
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<benzrf> havenwood: also whats the first arg there?
<havenwood> benzrf: the key
<benzrf> oh derp
<havenwood> benzrf: http://www.rubytapas.com/
<rubidious> Hi. I'm getting the following error when I run script/server
<rubidious> /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require': /var/lib/gems/1.9.1/gems/activesupport-1.4.2/lib/active_support/inflector.rb:266: syntax error, unexpected ':', expecting keyword_then or ',' or ';' or '\n' (SyntaxError) when 1: "#{number}st"
<rubidious> can someone point me in the right direction?
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<centrx> rubidious, Don't use : with case-when
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<centrx> use when 1 then
<havenwood> whomp_: 'fee', 'fie', 'fo', 'fum'].map { |path| Pathname.new path }
<rubidious> this is in a rubygem though right?
<rubidious> I shouldn't be modifying rubygem files, right?
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