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<GreatSUN>
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<pcarrier_>
hey! ./configure --disable-rubygems doesn't seem to really disable gem in ruby 1.9.3-p392
<pcarrier_>
is that expected?
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<faoiseamh>
I have a pool of workers that poll a web api and I want to have them run jobs in a way that results in a fixed (or based on some equation) number of jobs run per time period. Any suggestinos for achieving this sort of scheduling? I know this isn't exactly a ruby question
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<XxBlakeFailxX>
my bad, tha was directed at faoiseamh
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<andoriyu>
rails + devise + omni: I'm trying to make omni auth for multiple models w/o SST. How can I force devise to create session for omniauth user?
<andoriyu>
sign_in @user, :bypass => true
<andoriyu>
redirects to login form
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<bnagy>
faoiseamh: a worker pool with work tokens
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<bnagy>
then you work out your rate limiting or whatever in your token granting service
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<lazypower>
I'm having the most bizarre issue - I've got a Rails 3 app, with locomotiveCMS bolted on - when I issue a request to a controller that lives in the rails app under Locomotive - its stripping the HTTPBody and none of the params for Get requests are being forwarded to the controller from the middleware - does anyone have an idea on where I can start to debug this?
<waxjar>
you'll probably have better luck in a rails channel (#rails i think)
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<lazypower>
Duly noted - thanks waxjar
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<bean>
lazypower, also #rubyonrails
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* apeiros_
thinks "trying to get an answer" does not refute "asshatery"
<apeiros_>
*hattery
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<st0ne2thedge>
Hey guys! Working on a fork for the Chef-Workflow project, getting a very perculiar error on my ci system even though i tested the same commit on 2 desktop systems with no error whatsoever.
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<st0ne2thedge>
The problem occurs when chef-workflow tries to create a query statement for certain query string
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<st0ne2thedge>
no worries it's fixed
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<lingonkrok>
How do I write a regexp that match a string with size 10 or 20. Not between. {x,y} can't help me there, right?
<MrZYX>
why would you need that?
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<MrZYX>
lingonkrok: /(.{20}|.{10})/ would do but I'm not sure that regex is the best way to solve your problem
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<atyz>
I agree with MrZYX
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<neredsenvy>
char = current_user.characters.any?(&:id == params[:id]) this gives an wrong argument type FalseClass (expected Proc) error
<neredsenvy>
How do i pass the "where" argument to .any?
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<MrZYX>
neredsenvy: with a block: char = currrent_user.characters.any? { |char| char.id == params[:id] }, you likely want #find though
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<atyz>
&: expects a proc
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<neredsenvy>
I mean even tho character with id provided by params[:id] does exist in the array it keeps returning false
<quazimodo>
yohoo
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<Hanmac>
neredsenvy: then maybe your params value is not currect
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<halfie>
You have already activated actionpack 3.2.8, but your Gemfile requires actionpack 1.4.0. <== how do I fix this problem? My Gemfile doesn't even have actionpack in it!
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<MrZYX>
halfie: read your Gemfile.lock
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<halfie>
MrZYX: yes, I downgraded some versions in it and the app just won't fire up now.
<halfie>
how do I switch to "bundle install" environment from my OS environment?
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<halfie>
I am getting "Could not find gem 'mongoid (>= 0) ruby' in the gems available on this machine." Run "bundle install". I have already done "gem install mongoid" but the error persists. Any tips? Doing "bundle install" installs weird version of libraries which I don't want
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<MrZYX>
halfie: bundler will require the exact versions that are in your Gemfile.lock. That's it whole purpose. So get your dependencies right instead and run bundle install
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<halfie>
MrZYX: How exactly is Gemfile.lock getting older versions specified in it? From upstream repository metadata?
<halfie>
It the upstream metadata for my package broken then?
<halfie>
s/It/Is
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<MrZYX>
every gem has a list of dependencies, lets say you have foo and bar in your Gemfile, foo depends on baz >= 1, bar on baz ~> 1 (this can happen indirectly too, bar may depend on blub which in turn depends on baz ~> 1), lets also assume baz 2 is out, the last 1.x release was 1.3, bundler will choose 1.3 because that's fullfilling bar's requirement as well as foo's as foo only cares that baz is greater or equal 1
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<nobitanobi>
I am trying to find a project in Ruby where I can contribute to. I have been using Ruby and also RoR for a year and a half, and I would love to contribute to its community. Could anyone point me to some guide or project where a middle-level programmer could be of any help?
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<SIGILL>
Hello. Is it possible to use `defined?` with a dynamic argument? Say I have a variable name as a string and want to know if it's defined already.
<Hanmac>
SiGILL no
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<inkjet>
SIGILL: a = "foo"; local_variables.include?(:a) #=> true
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<SIGILL>
inkjet: the problem is that local_variables contains variables that are not defined yet, but are in the same scope
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<inkjet>
SIGILL: right
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<Hanmac>
SIGILL: think if you have this line of code: val = "foo" if false
<Hanmac>
is val defined or not? what would you think?
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<SIGILL>
yes, it's defined
<SIGILL>
(at least that would be my wild guess)
<Hanmac>
yes, and thats also true for your code, or show me an gist what you mean
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<SIGILL>
my_variablename = 'i'; defined?(my_variablename); # there's no way to check if the content of my_variablename is defined
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<inkjet>
define 'defined'
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<inkjet>
my_variablename IS defined
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<inkjet>
you want to check the object the variable is pointing to
<SIGILL>
yes, but may i (the variable) is or is not
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<inkjet>
that's different
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<inkjet>
SIGILL: what's your use case?
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<SIGILL>
inkjet: in this case nearly 100% academic. I'd feel really bad if I had to use something like that in one of my programs
<inkjet>
it seems like you just want a hash
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<Hanmac>
SIGILL: you could local_variables.any? {|n|n.to_s == variable_name}
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<inkjet>
local_variables.include?(variable_name.intern) and as SIGILL says apparently that's a problem because it'll return variables defined within the same scope but on a future line
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<Hanmac>
inkjet intern or to_sym may be bad ideas ... specialy when he wants to use user input
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<inkjet>
Hanmac: sure, but this entire thing is a bad idea, to_s.to_sym would be fine
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<SIGILL>
Hanmac: but local_variables contains all variables in the current scope, also the ones that are not already defined
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<Hanmac>
SIGILL i think you still not understand the term "defined" ... show us some code first
<SIGILL>
yep, second please
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<Hanmac>
local variables are defined in the moment the parser reads about them ... even the codeblock is not executed
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<inkjet>
right, but local_variables will return all variables local to that block
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<inkjet>
def foo; p local_variables; bar = "baz"; end; foo #=> [:bar]
<inkjet>
that's what SIGILL means
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<inkjet>
SIGILL: what you're trying to do is bad, you should instead think about a proper way of accomplishing what you want
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<platzhirsch>
Is it possible to combine two commands in pry(-debugger) with one input? For instance, continue and print variable
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<banister`sleep>
platzhirsch: yes, you can write your own command to do that
<kiwi_84692>
hey in if line.strip.empty?
<kiwi_84692>
break
<kiwi_84692>
end
<kiwi_84692>
what does the ? mean?
<platzhirsch>
banister`sleep: ah I saw that somewhere, thanks
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<banister`sleep>
platzhirsch: Pry.commands.command "my-command", "does something cute" do; puts "hello"; run "continue"; end
<banister`sleep>
KillerFox: it's part of the method name
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<banister`sleep>
mellow888: ^
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<mellow888>
oh haha
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<TheChance>
Good morning, Freenode. I'm a Ruby beginner, and this is a shot in the dark, but I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a full-fledged IDE for OS X or *nix. I'm dealing without, but syntax highlighting is friend.
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<breakingthings>
TheChance: sublime text 2.
<breakingthings>
it's not an ide.
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<breakingthings>
it's better.
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<TheChance>
Checking it out now. Thanks. Akin to TextMate? I just don't have dough for a license atm, which is why Googling the issue was fruitless.
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<TheChance>
Unlimited eval period sounds good...
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<breakingthings>
Yes, like Textmate, supports even supports tm bundles.
<breakingthings>
And it's nagware
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<breakingthings>
It'll pop up a "Hey, wanna buy me?" popup every like 15 saves.
<TheChance>
I can live with that. I used mIRC for a decade.
<TheChance>
Thanks!
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<breakingthings>
Np.
<breakingthings>
Also note,
<breakingthings>
first thing you do is get package control.
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<burgestrand>
Gomex: ?
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<banister`sleep>
Gomex: 1.8.7 is being killed in 2 months :)
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<Gomex>
bubbajones, sorry, I installed from package
<Gomex>
burgestrand, ^^
<Gomex>
banister`sleep, Debian guys may be upgrade this soon
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<Gomex>
burgestrand, is there something that I am doing wrong?
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<burgestrand>
Gomex: not as far as I know, but your rubygems installation appear to be wonky. It’s probably that your PATH does not contain the path to the directory where gem bins are placed, i.e. you can’t run commands provided by gems you install.
<burgestrand>
Gomex: I would believe your package manager should set your path up for you when it install rubygems, but it appears it have not.
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<burgestrand>
Gomex: unfortunately I can’t help you with installing ruby, I have a bit too much to do at the moment for that.
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<burgestrand>
Gomex: but since you’ve installed it from package, perhaps the package maintainers can help you.
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<burgestrand>
The other option is installing ruby through other means, such as RVM: https://rvm.io/ — that way you’ll also get a ruby version that is not at the brink of death and still receive security updates.
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<Gomex>
burgestrand, you are right, I find this doc
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<mellow888>
hi im trying to grab the ip and port from CONNECT 129.241.209.221:443 HTTP/1.0
<mellow888>
host, port = line.scan(/[0123456789.]/)
<mellow888>
this only gets me the first digit
<mellow888>
im not getting how to get all until the :
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<breakingthings>
not that I know how to solve your problem but uh
<breakingthings>
[0-9.]
<mellow888>
haha yeah
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<mellow888>
im trying [0-9.*]
<mellow888>
but it only gets the first char
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<breakingthings>
[0-9.]*
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<breakingthings>
it would probably be something like
<breakingthings>
/([0-9.]*):/
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<breakingthings>
where $1 is your capture group for the IP.
<breakingthings>
/([0-9.]*):([0-9]*)/ for $1 = IP, $2 = port
<breakingthings>
maybe
<breakingthings>
you probably want + instead of * though
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<e-dard>
Hi, does anyone have any experience with Sequel? I'm trying to understand how to make a model of a table I already have in a local DB
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<MrZYX>
mellow888: breakingthings: anything wrong with ip, port = line.split(" ")[1].split(":") (given we only see v4 addresses)
<e-dard>
How does Sequel know what the name of my table, which the model should refer to, is?
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<mellow888>
host, port = line.split(/([0-9.]*)/)
<breakingthings>
MrZYX: mellow888: yeah that's probably better. was just throwing what regex I knew of to help out.
<mellow888>
no treally working..
<breakingthings>
it wouldn't place it into a var
<mellow888>
let me try thanks!
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<mellow888>
yess it works
<mellow888>
now let me understand it
<mellow888>
it says to split the lines in groups without the spaces, and the split the second group according to the ":" ?
<breakingthings>
yes.
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<mellow888>
great, Its awesome to have this capability in the language
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<mellow888>
anyone familiar with how a https proxy works?
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<injekt>
e-dard: sequel uses the plural name of your model
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<injekt>
e-dard: by default. So User will map to 'users' table. You can specify a table though, class Users < Sequel::Model(:accounts)
<e-dard>
injekt: Cool. I also realised I can specify table as a symbol in definition :)
<e-dard>
yup
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<e-dard>
injekt: do you know if you can make properties on the data - attributes that are functions of values in the model?
<injekt>
e-dard: I'm not sure I follow
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<sheerun>
class A; end; class B < A; end; A.instance_eval { def foo; 12; end }; A.class_eval { def bar; 12; end }
<sheerun>
B.new.foo # => undefined
<e-dard>
equivalent to say SELECT (views / clicks) * 42 AS my_new_attr FROM table;
<sheerun>
B.new.bar # => 12
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<e-dard>
injekt: I want to define my_new_attr
<injekt>
e-dard: Foo.select(:something => :blah) # something AS blah
<sheerun>
So instance_eval evaluates on singleton class, passing class as self
<sheerun>
And class_eval passes class as self, but evaluates on class itself..
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<sheerun>
Or something
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<e-dard>
injekt: but I may want to apply a lot of business logic to :something before aliasing as :blah. Can I not define this on the model?
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<injekt>
e-dard: yeah you probably want to define your own method, you can define a method like that inside a 'dataset_methods' block
<injekt>
er dataset_module block
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<injekt>
e-dard: #sequel might help you more, jeremy is very active
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<e-dard>
Cool, thanks :)
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<BadQuanta>
Heya.. I'm looking for individuals that live in the Northwest US (Oregon/Washington) or maybe the Southwest of Canada (British Columbia/Vancouver)?
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<bean>
this is a channel for ruby, not for finding people imo
<BadQuanta>
I'm looking for ruby people.
<breakingthings>
It sounded like a craigslist ad
<BadQuanta>
I'm looking for someone to work a project with.
<breakingthings>
asl
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<BadQuanta>
Co-locating from time to time will be required.
<BadQuanta>
I've got a budget, it starts in two months... so I'm head hunting
<bean>
yeah imo this is not the place for that
<C0deMaver1ck>
definitely a craigslist ad would be better
<breakingthings>
^
<BadQuanta>
Ok. No problem.
<BadQuanta>
Didn't mean to cause a fuss.
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<BadQuanta>
And, I'm not touching craigslist.
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<lewix>
lol
<lewix>
BadQuanta: where are you located
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<BadQuanta>
BC is close enough for my taste. Most of the project will be handled over the net. But form time to time I need to have the option for co-locating all participants.
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<BadQuanta>
I'm hoping to build a team of three or maybe four, depending on how much I can get the contract written for.
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<BadQuanta>
But like I said to breakingthings & bean , I didn't mean to step on #ruby's community rules.
<BadQuanta>
So if this is something they don't want discussed here, feel free to PM me
<bean>
theres no "they" just a general feeling of would rather not have people posting shit about jobs in here.
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<bean>
thats what other sites are for
<BadQuanta>
Not really a job.
<BadQuanta>
It's temporary.
<BadQuanta>
But I understand.
<BadQuanta>
Totally.
<bean>
Enter is not punctuation
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<BadQuanta>
bean, O_o? I gather I'm irritating you.
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<injekt>
BadQuanta: Not just him. Please try and keep your sentences on a single line and not hit enter every few words, it's annoying. Also, this is not a place to advertise work, so hit up a job board :)
<lukeholder>
I am wanting to remove the ..[caption id="attachment\_7040" align="alignleft" width="200"] and [/caption]
<lukeholder>
and return the body
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<lukeholder>
thanks guys
<lukeholder>
and girls
<mercwithamouth>
my regex skills sucketh sorry
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<lukeholder>
mee too...
<lukeholder>
;(
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<MrZYX>
lukeholder: what's the (...)? for? making the [/caption] optional?
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<lukeholder>
MrZYX there is no …
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<lukeholder>
just want to remove the [caption id="attachment\_7040" align="alignleft" width="200"] and [/caption]
<MrZYX>
don't take me that literate ;P
<MrZYX>
((.*?)[/caption])?
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<lukeholder>
i dont know if im on the right track
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<lukeholder>
thinking i need a regex to get the contents between faux tags and a regex to get the tags only
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<lukeholder>
was trying to make a single regex with 3 match groups to make it easier
<MrZYX>
so what is the requirement, always try to find a matching [/caption] or is it optional?
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<lukeholder>
always find matching
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<lukeholder>
MrZYX always find matching
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<Eiam>
argh why do people do metaprogramming
<lukeholder>
so just \[caption(.*?)\](.*?)\[\/caption\]?
<Eiam>
I completely don't understand the value in implementing a bunch of matches inside method_missing to capture specific methods, just write real method signatures that you can really document
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<MrZYX>
lukeholder: that's what I would suggest
<lukeholder>
how would i remove the match from a string?
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<Eiam>
use named parameters or something, def find_by(*args)
<lukeholder>
MrZYX ?
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<Paradox>
redmine was
<Paradox>
like the first non-shit alternative to sourceforge
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<Paradox>
i remember those days
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<oz>
but github's issues ... :/
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<Paradox>
github's issues rock
<Paradox>
its one of the best trackers i've ever used
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<apeiros_>
Paradox: in what ways is it better than others? (pure curiosity)
<Paradox>
apeiros_, doesnt fatigue the issue opener
<Paradox>
you only have 2 fields to fill out
<Paradox>
instead of 20
<apeiros_>
(I have only used redmine & pivotal so far, for most things I use github's too)
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<Paradox>
I've used pivotal at work
<Paradox>
it aint bad
<Paradox>
but honestly, i prefer githubs
<apeiros_>
pivotal isn't exactly an issue tracker, though :)
<Paradox>
pivotal is designed to replace note cards
<Paradox>
but i always felt like i was fighting with the interface slightly
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<Paradox>
even after the redesign this last summer
<apeiros_>
hm, maybe you wanted too much from it?
<Paradox>
maybe it was cause the project i was working with had like 4000 labels
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<apeiros_>
:D
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<apeiros_>
we have a problem with that it seems to be designed with "1 team = 1 app/product"
<apeiros_>
which doesn't hold true for us
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<Paradox>
lately i've been building my own issue trackers
<Paradox>
that do just what i want
<Paradox>
i mean
<Paradox>
an issue tracker is basically one of the simpler CRUD apps
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<apeiros_>
mhm, I have made some sketches how I'd want one, but haven't started to implement it as I'm already having far too many projects open :D
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<apeiros_>
though, I want more than an issue tracker. I want an IDE for rails app development.
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<Paradox>
um
<Paradox>
RubyMine?
<apeiros_>
not a code-IDE, as in: the part other than coding (current features, progress, issues, bugs)
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<apeiros_>
I could try it again. we used it ~3y ago and back then it didn't cut it.
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<Eiam>
apeiros_: ah just the person I wanted to ask!
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<Eiam>
apeiros_: One of my co-workers decided to implement a bunch of functionality via method_missing meta programming. I'm confused as to why someone would want to match via regex method signatures & implement them inside method missing instead of just use named parameters and define actual methods that can be documented & referenced easier
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<Eiam>
i read tons of articles last night about HOW to do this, but I didn't get a lot of "why the fuck would you do this" and indeed, I did gt a quote from _why negatively reflecting on this =p
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<Eiam>
it seems like a huge step down in maintainability, extensibility & readability
<Eiam>
not to mention requiring you match your signatures in responds_to_missing
<apeiros_>
Eiam: generally, if you can, explicit methods are to prefer, yes
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<apeiros_>
for very much the reasons you just stated
<apeiros_>
it's more discoverable, easier to follow, hence easier to maintain and last but not least also more performant
<Eiam>
well atleast I feel better for being pissed off about it
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<krainboltgreene>
Oh how I wish #includes() was actually called #behaves_like()
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<krainboltgreene>
Then we might get modules that are containers of behavior instead of boxes of functionality.
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<Eiam>
I mean I read article after article, meta programming is so great its so ruby woo
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<digital-ghost>
#learntoprogram
<Eiam>
and I get it from a DSL standpoint, but you are using metaprogramming to implement something that is generally MORE readable & maintainable, the DSL
<digital-ghost>
erm, missed that twitter hash :)
<Eiam>
digital-ghost: I can read the code just fine, I just don't think its a great design pattern
<Eiam>
I think its pretty awful
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<apeiros_>
Eiam: coders suffer IME a lot of the "look, I'm so clever" virus
<apeiros_>
ruby coders maybe even more so
<digital-ghost>
Eiam, wasn't meant to you, actual typo m8
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<Eiam>
yes, I thought indeed "oh this is so very clever; you asshole"
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<apeiros_>
Eiam: whether I find the case you stumbled over justified or bad, I can't tell, though.
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<apeiros_>
there are places where method_missing is a nice choice, saves you from a hugely complex implementation and the speed penalty doesn't matter much
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<Eiam>
if you created proper classes & objects, maybe you wouldn't end up with a complex implementation
<Eiam>
I mean people have been solving problems with code for a long time
<apeiros_>
possible, yes
<Eiam>
without doing a mess like that
<Eiam>
and indeed many languages don't let you do stuff like that, or make it much more difficult
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<Eiam>
apeiros_: okay, well I appreciate your time
<krainboltgreene>
eiam: As long as you have a series of composite objects underneath the DSL it is great.
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<krainboltgreene>
I read slow.
<Eiam>
I don't really want to post the code, I don't want to inflict people with it mentally or waste time, and I'm happy enough to attack it without further analysis
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<apeiros_>
Eiam: yw
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<digital-ghost>
If I assign person = identify[human][:possible] what is happening on the right side of the = sign? The first "box" to the right of identify function, is that an argument being passed to the variable or some type of array?
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<digital-ghost>
Trying to learn Ruby from ground up, and this is stumping me, not sure what this pattern is doing
<apeiros_>
digital-ghost: obj[arg] is syntax sugar for obj.[](arg)
<apeiros_>
that is, [] is a method there
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<apeiros_>
so obj[arg1][arg2] is obj.[](arg1).[](arg2)
<digital-ghost>
so [] is an array argument
<apeiros_>
no
<apeiros_>
as said, [] is the method name
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<digital-ghost>
what if identify is a method as well?
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<apeiros_>
so what?
<Xeago>
digital-ghost: than it is .[]() on the return of the method
<apeiros_>
you call methods on objects
<apeiros_>
methods return objects
<apeiros_>
local variables "return" objects too
<digital-ghost>
II think your line solves what I'm trying to understand, just need to take it in for a sec.
<Hanmac>
"if .. then .. else ... end" return objects too
<Xeago>
what exactly does if then else end return?
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<apeiros_>
the last evaluated expression
<apeiros_>
as all in ruby :)
<Xeago>
ah, obvious >.<
<apeiros_>
if true then 1 else 2 end # => 1
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<apeiros_>
if false then 1 else 2 end # => 2
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<apeiros_>
same for case/when
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<apeiros_>
though, while/until return nil, I think
* Hanmac
is returning objects too .... to the RecyclingYard :P
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<banister`sleep>
Hanmac: can you return the thing u stole from me
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<banister`sleep>
Hanmac: MyInnocence
<Xeago>
is brilliant
* Xeago
sings further in his head
<digital-ghost>
ugh, I feel like I've learned all of this before and now it's just faded away.
<Hanmac>
me has a nil with an outdated object_id but i dont think you want it :P
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<A124>
digital-ghost: Welcome to the life. Get used to it.
* Xeago
wonders if anyone fancies a game of dota2, got invites if necessary
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<Xeago>
stupid valve doesn't release on osx or linux.. bah
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<injekt>
apeiros_: that's where `break x` comes in handy :) (while/until returning nil)
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<apeiros_>
inkjet: that's where using a proper loop construct comes in handy :-p
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<injekt>
apeiros_: well, yeah :P
<injekt>
apieros
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<apeiros_>
yeah, shame on you for not misspelling my nick!
<injekt>
my bad :(
<injekt>
tab complete is too easy
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<apeiros_>
indeed. nick mutilation plugin is dearly needed
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<injekt>
quite
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<millerti>
I have a sequence of three bytes that I'm pretty sure are a UTF-8 encoded character. I can see how to convert that to unicode in Ruby 1.9, but how can I do it in 1.8?
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<injekt>
firstly, rm -rf 1.8
<apeiros_>
seconded
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<apeiros_>
threebytes.unpack("U*")
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<Eiam>
I called him on the clever meta programming
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<Eiam>
based on his response he knew he was not doing a solid there
<Eiam>
I think someone wanted to play around with meta programming
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<digital-ghost>
Ok, so I think I have a little bit more of an understanding of that object[arg], in my example identify returns a hash and [human] is actually a key into that
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<flayer>
is there any obvious way to check how much resources a ruby script uses?
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<apeiros_>
flayer: ask your system
<Hanmac>
flayer: everything :P
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<flayer>
But is there no function from inside ruby to check memory usage of a script?
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<waxjar>
is there a conventional #inspect format?
<apeiros_>
waxjar: Object#inspect's output
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<flayer>
nvm, think I found out.
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<waxjar>
apeiros_, Object#inspect causes an infinite loop for me (the objects reference each other)
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<apeiros_>
then you don't have Object#inspect
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<apeiros_>
since that resolves recursion
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<Hanmac>
by using "..." :P
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<apeiros_>
>> a = Object.new; b = Object.new; a.instance_variable_set(:@x, b); b.instance_variable_set(:@x, a); a.inspect
<apeiros_>
wth? eval-in is gone :(
* Hanmac
was nt the culpit
<waxjar>
hmm, they're Celluloid actors, I'll have a look
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<flayer>
By using the system as apeiros_ said. At first I didn't think it would be verbose enough, but ps can show usage in KB which is enough for my use. just thought there would be a more crossplattform way
<_br_>
I'm know this might be a #rails or so question, but if possible I'd like to know your opinion on this... Does anyone have a suggestion for me how I debug a website issue running on mobile phones? The site I have displays fine on desktop but on mobile phone browser there is some issue but how can I get debug feedback? Anyone have an idea what to use in such cases?
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<Eiam>
set your user agent to mobile on the desktop?
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<BadQuanta>
_br_: If your mobile phones are smart enough to run JavaScript, can you send data back to the server to debug?
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<_br_>
Eiam: Intersting thought, but I think the software stack of the browsers is different on the mobile phones... worth a try though
<BadQuanta>
_br_: For instance, in a rails application I deployed that ran on Android and iPads, when debugging I have the clients throw a lot of data back to the server via Faye...
<Eiam>
sure, just depends on the nature of the bug
<_br_>
BadQuanta: This is quite an interesting idea, might work actually ... need to see if I can get console log output sent back ... thanks !
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<BadQuanta>
_br_: Wishing you the best of luck. ;)
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<_br_>
Eiam: Its tricky, because it involves e.g. requirejs... don't know.
<_br_>
BadQuanta: Cheers!
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<shevy>
how do you guys use ansicolors with ruby?
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<_br_>
shevy: Isn't there a gem for this problem?
<shevy>
_br_ yeah but there are like 100 gems, I wanna know what people actually use
<shevy>
what is that ruby-toolbox thing? never saw that before
<rboyd_>
it's a website that lists gems for doing ansi colors in ruby
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<_br_>
kinda popped up some time ago, I think its a reaction to the whole pleatora of choice. I mean e.g. how many static html generators are there? A bazillion,.
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<_br_>
check out that site at least you get an general idea of how many people use it etc.
<shevy>
yeah
<shevy>
that's the thing... so many to choose from :(
<shevy>
ok
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<waxjar>
shevy, colored is great: "foo".red
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<shevy>
hmmm
<shevy>
waxjar, that is like the same in 3525 more of these gems hehe
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<shevy>
what is the XKCD joke...
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<shevy>
15 standards that suck... I will create one that solves it all ...
<_br_>
shevy: Hehe please do. What a pity there is no gem "shootout" e.g. flog, flay scores, documentation, functionality, cleaness, features, ... tadaa here is your winner ..
<shevy>
_br_ that would be rather useful I think
<shevy>
especially documentation quality rating
<shevy>
I could skip those gems with awful documentation then
<_br_>
yep, that often sucks in the ruby community :(
<shevy>
like all of Hanmac's projects hahaha
<_br_>
^^
<shevy>
but he always promises to write more
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<shevy>
why is he starting an empty module definition there?
<shevy>
module ANSI
<shevy>
end
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<waxjar>
maybe so he can do module ANSI::Xxx later? instead of module ANSI; module Xxx
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<shevy>
hmm interesting
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<nezumi>
I'm having headaches with gem on Windows behind a corporate firewall and proxy. I could use some help.
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<_br_>
nezumi: cygwin + ssh + proxychains for the resuce!
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<nezumi>
Hmmm, never used proxychains. Have ssh
<nezumi>
and cygwin
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<nezumi>
but the corp firewall blocks ssh
<_br_>
nezumi: open a tunnel via ssh with -D which runs allows a socket connection. Then use proxychains to encapsulate all calls of your environment to be tunnel through there
<nezumi>
How about a simpler method for getting through the proxy? Cygwin does fine.
<_br_>
without ssh? or ssh over $protocol?
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<_br_>
well, portknocking will do I suppose
<nezumi>
Yeah, without ssh. It works fine within the firewall
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<nezumi>
I'm really not a Windows person
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<_br_>
You might want tp read up on the HTTP_PROXY variable I guess.
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<nezumi>
I've read up on the HTTP_PROXY variable. It's figuring out what to set it to is the problem. It's Windows...
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<dekroning>
I would like to test if something was output withing 1 second and something else after 2 seconds, woudl this be possible with rspec or minitest?
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<breakingthings>
…yes, but why would you do that.
<dekroning>
breakingthings: because i'm writing a test for some terminal output, and I would like to test that i'm getting direct feedback on STDOUT, and not buffered until the commands is over. Hope that it make sense
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<breakingthings>
dekroning: I would imagine you probably want a better test for that than a timed test
<aedorn>
allergies are getting in the way of Ruby.. ugh
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<breakingthings>
but all you would have to do is create a timestamp in the test and compare that to the time at the end of the test...
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<breakingthings>
But that's going to be awkward.
<breakingthings>
I'd really recommend against it.
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<dekroning>
breakingthings: intrestting, what would be a better test?
<dekroning>
breakingthings: the timestamp would be a better test?
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<breakingthings>
dekroning: Honestly I don't have any idea. Relying on time is not very effective, though.
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<breakingthings>
This is usually the part where someone comes in with a solution from the heavens
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<breakingthings>
but I just know that attempting to test something based on the time it takes be a bad idea.
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<breakingthings>
Unfortunately I just don't have any real experience or idea of how you'd test that. I'd say that if there is something that one would have to do to ensure their output was to STDOUT that you would check that as part of the spec
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<nathanl>
Does anyone know if RVM default is litterally just making a symlink of an environment to "environments/default" or are there other things happening too?
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<delinquentme>
A simple link to <%= link_to ( citation.pdf || "#" ) %>
<injekt>
Hanmac: it's not the wrong channel, that's a ruby question not a rails question
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<Hanmac>
injekt: "<%=" its not core or stdlib ruby, its thirdparty shit, that gots its own channel
<injekt>
yes, yes it is
<shevy>
:D
<injekt>
<%= is ERB, erb is in stdlib
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<injekt>
so lets not pretend erb is rails only
<shevy>
link_to() is not in stdlib though
<injekt>
so, neither is 'foo_bar' it's just a method call
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<shevy>
with that reasoning you could say that every addon is "a ruby question"
<injekt>
maybe his issue is more rails related, but it's not yet
<nloewen>
I'm learning ruby and I'm having a bit of trouble. What is the correct syntax for initializing new objects in the method arguments? "someMethod someObject.new(3), someObject.new(5), someObject.new(1)"
<injekt>
well we dont know his issue yet
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<injekt>
so rather than sending him packing, why can't we help me out first
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<shevy>
anyway, I don't mind, I am fine either way, if someone is able to help delinquentme, all the better
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<shevy>
nloewen a class name starts with uppercased character always
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<injekt>
'help me out first' er help HIM out first :)
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<shevy>
nloewen, so always SomeObject.new and never someObject.new
<injekt>
shevy: not never
<injekt>
a = SomeClass; a.new
<injekt>
but yeah, generally
<shevy>
a is just a reference here
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<injekt>
sure, but it contradicts your statement of 'never someObject.new'
<nloewen>
shevy: right. I was a little lazy in my example. But that doesn't change the syntax at all :P
<shevy>
def Integer(i); i * i; end; alias integer Integer
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<injekt>
nloewen: the syntax you provided is valid ruby
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<injekt>
nloewen: what's the problem you're having? can you paste the full code
<shevy>
nloewen what is someMethod there? I am not sure I understand your syntax hehe
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<nezumi>
After trying watir, I'm now looking at Mechanize. Trying to figure out how to automate some stuff that is ugly javascript is a challenge
<nezumi>
Any recommendations on where to look?
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<injekt>
nezumi: you've given us little information, whatcha trying to do?
<injekt>
nezumi: just automate javascript? Because mech wont do that for you
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<nezumi>
In short, automate getting warrrantee information from Dell's website
<nathanl>
why are you using JS?
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<nezumi>
I'm not. Dell's website is
<injekt>
nezumi: do you require the js to do what you need?
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<nloewen>
Oh! duh. Our prof is forcing us to implement our own toString instead of to_s and for some reason I'm printing pointers instead of data :/ That's why I'm confused.
<nezumi>
Not my website. It seems that the input field is catching keystrokes
<nathanl>
you're trying to get dell warrentee info for the JS on Dell's website?
<injekt>
nloewen: punch your prof
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<nezumi>
I'm trying to get start and end dates for warrantees on about 1000 machines
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<nathanl>
how are you getting the dates from dells site?
<nloewen>
I really want to. I'd be embarrassed to post any code due to the ridiculous requirements we have.
<nezumi>
enter a service tag, click one button, then click another button
<shevy>
nloewen hehe
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<injekt>
nezumi: I dont see the js requirements of that
<injekt>
too many n usernames
<nathanl>
ah, you need to click buttons
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<nezumi>
I am not using Javascript. Dell's web developers are.
<shevy>
nloewen usually the to_s method is just a method that will return something in string-form
<injekt>
uh
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<injekt>
nezumi: mech can click buttons, I dont know why js is even being mentioned
<nezumi>
Because I'm trying to find the buttons in the page I get back
<nathanl>
what are the buttons doing when you click them? are they links to URLs or loading things with JS?
<digital-ghost>
So in javascript, I'm able to use the browser (chrome in this case) to pause and inspect variable values. What is the best way for me to do this with Ruby?
<injekt>
nezumi: what version of mechanize? because I released a new version the other day with new features
<nloewen>
shevy: yeah. I'm storing integers and strings and I'm not allowed to use to_s. I have to implement my own toString method in a wrapper class
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<digital-ghost>
Huge jump for trying to follow the data and see current data assigned to variables.
<nezumi>
The one I just downloaded a couple of hours ago...
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<danneu>
nobitanobi: it's an idiomatic ruby way to expose configuration. modifying a yielded 'config' object is also much more readable than, what, configure(true, "lol", false, nil)
<nobitanobi>
mmm ok
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<nobitanobi>
danneu, is difficult to learn Ruby patterns agghs
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<nobitanobi>
thanks
<danneu>
nobitanobi: Rspec might not be the easiest place to first encounter these things since it's somewhat of a beast
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<danneu>
if you open a few tabs of block tutorials and try to make your own trivial examples, i think you'd see how it works pretty quickly
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<waxjar>
nobitanobi, are you familiar with javascript?
<shevy>
guys
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<shevy>
I have a method in a file, let's say test.rb
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<shevy>
the method is: def opn; File.basename(__FILE__); end
<shevy>
currently, if I use this method, it gives me back 'test.rb'
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<shevy>
but, if I use it in a file called ... bla.rb, I would like to use this method, but return 'bla.rb' instead
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<shevy>
right now it always returns 'test.rb', regardless of in which file I use it
<shevy>
(the real method colourizes the file name and does some modifications)
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<nathanl>
how hard is it to setup one's own gem server?
<bean>
shevy: maybe because __FILE__ always contains the file being called from
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<shevy>
bean :(
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<bean>
:)
<nathanl>
you could try using $LOADED_FEATURES
<MrZYX>
shevy: maybe look at the implementation of __dir__ ?
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<shevy>
MrZYX oh, that's an idea
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<cout>
go syntax is just similar enough to C to be confusing, but not different enough to actually make me want to use it
<injekt>
cout: I sort of agree with you, I think it's kind of refreshing though, apart from all the error handling
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<colonolGron>
funny that you mention that. i took a look into go today.
<cout>
besides, everyone knows Prolog is the ultimate language
<injekt>
I really like the concurrency model though which is probably what attracts me most
<injekt>
well yeah
<injekt>
tbh its all about fortran
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* TTilus
did turbo pascal and delphi
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<injekt>
fun eh
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<TTilus>
cout: i thought it was lisp
<injekt>
I did too much vb6 too
<shevy>
injekt cool, for job?
<injekt>
shevy: no I was a noob kid
<shevy>
I think we had one hour per week in school for two years ... in ... Pascal! :\
<nezumi>
All you youngsters have never enjoyed the power of Forth
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<shevy>
matz did not even create ruby back then...
<linduxed>
cout: i agree that the syntax could have gone a little further, but there are other reasons to like the language
<shevy>
nezumi, I keep on hearing that about Forth
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<injekt>
psh ruby has been around for 20 years!
<shevy>
old, passionate men ;)
<banister`sleep>
injekt: did you ever do quickbasic? (aka qbasic)
<cout>
ttilus: all lisps are just poor implementations of prolog :)
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<injekt>
banister`sleep: na I had the choice but by that time I learned to stop being a dick and I learned java
<shevy>
when they are 60+ they say... "Hey, Forth was the best thing" or... "Hey, Lisp was the best thing"... while the rest of the world has well changed since then
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<cout>
nezumi: I dunno, Factor is pretty popular
<injekt>
banister`sleep: you ever used iolang? it's pretty neat
<banister`sleep>
injekt: hehe, qbasic is much older than vb6 :) I went qbasic -> pascal -> C -> java -> Ruby
<injekt>
banister`sleep: nice :D
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<banister`sleep>
injekt: nah, people dont actually write real apps with it do they?
<cout>
banister`sleep: bah, gwbasic
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<banister`sleep>
cout: haha, you did that?
<injekt>
banister`sleep: I went pascal/delphi -> vb6 -> java -> c -> perl/php -> ruby
<cout>
banister`sleep: actually I used pc basic, which is the same thing but implemented in the BIOS
<injekt>
banister`sleep: and no not really
<banister`sleep>
cout: gw stood for "gee whiz" right? :)
<linduxed>
current favourite language of mine is haskell. so many nice things about it
<waxjar>
I've been taking an online course on haskell, it's so cool
<cout>
banister`sleep: I think it stood for Gates, William
<waxjar>
can't say i understand it all though, especially those monads
<banister`sleep>
cout: oh, interesting
<linduxed>
it has led me to the point that when i write stuff in ruby, i try to keep my functions pure and write functionally :-D
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<injekt>
graft_: yes
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<injekt>
graft_: use $~ if you want the matchdata object
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<TMM>
if I have a function that takes a block argument, but I want to pass the same block to multiple functions is it possible to pass an existing block (function? proc?)
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<TMM>
my_func &func ?
<TMM>
or something?
<TMM>
google is failing me
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<lectrick>
OK, why can't I call a private method from an instance belonging to that class, via self.private_method_name? It throws a "private method called" error. Yet just saying private_method_name without the self-dot works. Why?
<banister`sleep>
lectrick: private method == no explicit receiver
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<pangur>
How can I combine names << i with names << name so that instead of having i and name in separate lines, I have them on the same line, please?
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<pangur>
How can I combine "names << i" with "names << name" so that instead of having i and name in separate lines, I have them on the same line, please?
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<waxjar>
names << i << name ?
* pangur
googles how to pass two variables to an array at once.
<shevy>
pangur yeah << is just a message call
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<pangur>
Basically, I am just trying to put two different variables into an array.
<MrZYX>
arr+[first_var, second_var]
<injekt>
names << i << name
<banister`sleep>
pangur: arrays are ok, i dont mind them
<lectrick>
banister`sleep: meh. i've been enjoying calling methods off the self receiver to make clear that it's not (for example) a local
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<banister`sleep>
lectrick: then use protected instead
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<banister`sleep>
lectrick: but i dont mind using blah()
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<lectrick>
banister`sleep: :)
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<banister`sleep>
lectrick: do u like private and protected
<lectrick>
protected may work. it's a controller method in rails and it can't be accessible via url so I believe protected will still do the trick
<banister`sleep>
lectrick: just dont use self.blah() :) we're not javascript/python here ;)
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<lectrick>
banister`sleep: lol. yeah i wouldn't!
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<maek>
anyone know about this. gem list |grep mirror gives me rubygems-mirror (1.0.1) - when I run gem mirror it tells me install the rubygems-mirror gem for the mirror command. pretty sure its installed
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<shevy>
I just realized
<shevy>
haskell without monads would be a fairly simple language, right?
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<shevy>
ruby needs monads
<shevy>
the monad lambda
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<nezumi>
Next, shevy will be asking for tailfins...
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<shevy>
hmmm
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<shevy>
I am not sure why we need monads, but we need them
<shevy>
but tailfins? hmmmmm
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<trolling>
shevy: haskell with monads is a fairly simple language...
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<shevy>
trolling lol I like your nick
<shevy>
I saw an IRC bot written in haskell a few years ago
<shevy>
it had like only 20 lines of code (and was not verbose at all)
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<trolling>
thanks
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