apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 2.0.0-p0: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p392) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<Spooner_> MrZYX, It could be yielded (implicit block) or called (&block) though.
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<MrZYX> hm and it does still splat if you do block.call?
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<Spooner_> MrZYX, Yeah.
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<Spooner_> Implies it is probably the proc/block/lambda doing it. Methods never do that, as someone pointed out.
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<mouse-_> Eiam: they multiply like .. small furry rodent like mammal creatures
<mouse-_> lol
<fir_ed> hanmac: yes. removing the gil doesn't affect the behaviour of single threaded apps
<fir_ed> hanmac: i also hate jruby.
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<headius> fir_ed: why's that?
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<fir_ed> shevy, It must be removed because it limits native threading powers, which is a pretty essential language feature(combined with forking)
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<fir_ed> headius, you mean why I hate jruby?
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<Spooner_> I believe it is there else every C extension would fall on its arse.
<banisterfiend> headius: what do you think (if anything) about donglegate? :)
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<headius> banisterfiend: overreaction after overreaction
<fir_ed> Spooner_, Maybe if we removed the GIL, created a JIT interpreter, we wouldn't need to rely on c extensions for speed
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<headius> fir_ed: yes
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<Spooner_> fir_ed, You mean used Rubinius?
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<fir_ed> headius, I believe in MRI/CRuby just like most pythoners believe in Cpython
<headius> fir_ed: hate is a strong word
<fir_ed> headius, maybe not hate, dislike.
<headius> I believe in MRI too
<fir_ed> I dislike the jvm
<headius> for any specific reason?
<Spooner_> CRuby works better on Windows than any other version. That matters, even if you don't use Windows (unless you only want cross-platform stuff to be ported from Windows, not to Windows :D).
<banisterfiend> headius: yeah, i think it's safer to stay at home than attend conferences these days..
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<fir_ed> Spooner_, Rubinius is an option, but we should be focused on improving the standard ruby implementation
<headius> Spooner_: I'd be very surprised if that were true
<Spooner_> fir_ed, Yes, but that is what they'd say they are doing.
<headius> Spooner_: we've had numerous users that could *only* get their apps running on Windows by using JRuby
<Spooner_> headius, What, that CRuby works best on Windows?
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<willbradley> hokay
<headius> not to mention the megahassle of C exts on Windows when gem authors don't prebuild
<Spooner_> headius, JRuby pretty much doesn't support C extensions therefore is mostly useless.
<willbradley> let's see if you can repeat your amazing success that makes me love you
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<headius> Spooner_: useless if you need C extensions
<willbradley> i've got a hash: {"show"=>{"type"=>"Type"}}
<fir_ed> headius, really? Cruby has a god damn installer for windows.
<headius> fir_ed: now try to get your favorite database driver working
<willbradley> right now i'm iterating with hash.each_pair but it dies on the "Type" string
<fir_ed> are these users boneheads?
<Spooner_> headius, Not too bad as long as you don't need external libs. RubyInstaller + devkit works for most binary gems fine.
<headius> fir_ed: or any C exts that aren't already build for Windows
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<headius> Spooner_: that's assuming the gems even work on Windows
<willbradley> i'm basically trying to output the hash tree recursively, with increasing indents, yaml style
<headius> how many C ext developers do you know that test on Windows, eh?
<fir_ed> headius, have you heard of the devkit? it works fine.
<fir_ed> and very simple.
<Spooner_> headius, Yes, a few don't work. I said that CRuby works massively better than JRuby (et al). Not that it is perfect.
<Spooner_> headius, Me.
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<headius> Spooner_: well, that's one :-)
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<Spooner_> headius, And my exts work better on Windows - segfault here on Linux because it is more picky :D
<headius> and if C ext is your only reason to use MRI, great
<headius> C ext API is the #1 thing holding Ruby back
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<Spooner_> JRuby is fine if you only want access to Java stuff, not Ruby C stuff.
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<headius> you can use FFI on any platform to bind C libs
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<headius> you just don't get the MRI C API
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<Spooner_> You can, but that doesn't allow for building C extensions directly. I've done both and actually, the FFI doesn't work great on Windows :D
<Spooner_> Keep meaning to re-write that FFI'ed dll as a C ext so it works :D
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<Spooner_> Don't get me wrong. I'd much prefer to use another version than CRuby.
<headius> FFI should work fine on Windows
<fir_ed> I brought this up to rally support *for* CRuby
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<fir_ed> it needs to be improved.
<headius> if it doesn't, report an issue to us
<headius> and the FFI for MRI *is* a C ext
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<headius> fir_ed: rallying support for one project by saying you hate another is not the greatest way to start
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<fir_ed> ahaha true that.
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<fir_ed> Jruby seems so pointless though.
<fir_ed> That's why.
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<banisterfiend> fir_ed: you say silly things
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<headius> fir_ed: except that it's faster, has a better GC, doesn't require native deps or a compiler, doesn't have a GIL
<fir_ed> banisterfiend, Why's that? If all ruby devs/supporters concentrated their efforts on one implementation, that one implementation would be so much better
<headius> that doesn't seem pointless to me
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<fir_ed> There's something wrong with Ruby if the reference implementation isn't the best.
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<headius> fir_ed: the best at what?
<headius> it has the best startup time…satisfied? :-)
<havenwood> fir_ed: Best at some things, not best at others seems fine to me? Having multiple top quality implementations seems like a 'problem' tons of languages would love to have!
<havenwood> headius: best fork!
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<headius> havenwood: that's fair too!
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<banisterfiend> headius: i wouldn't even bother with him, he doesn't seem well-informed enough. #ruby has a lot of beginners with strong views, give them 3 months or so and they become more reasonable. :)
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<headius> banisterfiend: yeah, I'm just passing the time :-)
<fir_ed> Thanks for the responses. I'll now go furiously fap hoping that my fapping will increase Cruby's power.
<fir_ed> Brb.
<headius> sweet, and he's 12 too
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<fir_ed> Fyi banisterfiend: I've been a rubyist since 1.9.2(more than 3 months).
<willbradley> trying to use .to_yaml -- what's up with all these exclamation marks?
<Spooner_> willbradley, Can you give a bit more context?
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<willbradley> beta_programs:
<willbradley> left_menu:
<willbradley> beta_programs: ! '"Beta Programs"'
<willbradley> networking_betas: ! '''Networking Betas'''
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<willbradley> trying to generate rails yml configs, never seen the ! syntax before
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<willbradley> google just mentions it exists but nothing very helpful
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<willbradley> oh interesting, when i take quotes out it disappears
<willbradley> subnets:
<willbradley> subnet: Subnet
<willbradley> show:
<willbradley> location: Location
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<dopie> hey all is there a web app where a person takes a photo posts it on instagram or tumblr or another service then i can get that photo they posted and put it on my website?
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<Spooner_> willbradley, ! is the prefix for a local data type, but I don't see why those strings are considered thus.
<willbradley> same here
<willbradley> i guess i fixed it by removing those characters
<Spooner_> I'd expect strings to be quoted if they contained odd characters that might otherwise be interpreted by YAML.
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<Spooner_> willbradley, Just sweep it under the carpet and forget about it then :P
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<urbanmonk> I want to save a block to a variable so that I can reuse it in multiple calls to map/collect .. I have the following snippet but it doesn't work ... https://gist.github.com/rvelasquez/5218070
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<urbanmonk> complains about number of arguments
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<dopie> eeee
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<nmeum> I am encrypting a file using openssl should I generate a key for the encryption using http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.0/libdoc/openssl/rdoc/OpenSSL/PKCS5.html ?
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<shevy> Xeago what's up with your IRC client man
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<apucacao> is it possible to do partial function application in ruby?
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<A124> Not sure what it is.. but.. why not?
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<oz> shevy: you can /ignore #ruby JOINS PARTS QUITS (if you're using irssi)
<oz> or in Xeago's case, ignore "NICKS" too :D
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<A124> What happened with #ruby? Most people just idle and that's all. From place that lived one year ago it's a living graveyard?
<willbradley> wat. at a certain number of characters long, yaml decides to prefix data with a ?
<willbradley> 1.9.3p385 :010 > {"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" => 5}.to_yaml => "---\naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: 5\n"
<willbradley> 1.9.3p385 :011 > {"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" => 5}.to_yaml => "---\n? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa\n: 5\n"
<willbradley> yaml is, apparently, the best.
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<A124> Check your code and don't spam
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<willbradley> point taken, though that's pretty simple code
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<otters> is there any way to get around "autoload must be constant name"
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<ryanf> otters: you can only autoload constants
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<ryanf> constants have to start with a capital letter
<otters> yeah nvm fixed it
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<dallasm_> can someone help me figure out why this doesn't work?
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<dallasm_> object.class.name works, so string comparison is cool but not class comparison?
<dallasm_> it seems to be related to the case statement or something
<dallasm_> Time == Time.now.class # true
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<Nom-> dallasm_: you probably want instance_of?
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<Nom-> if foo is_a?(Time)
<Nom-> actually, let me irb that ... it might be a method
<dallasm_> .kind_of? works
<Nom-> Yep, .kind_of? works
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<Nom-> is_a? should be a synonum of that too
<Nom-> *synonym
<dallasm_> but i usually like to use case statements for these kinds of methods
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<dallasm_> i was surprised that this didn't work
<banister`sleep> kind_of? and is_a? are aliases yeah
<banister`sleep> instance_of? is different tho
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<Nom-> If this is a test case, you probably want to be using other methods to ensure it's returning what you expect
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<Nom-> In rspec, there's a is_a() matcher
<Nom-> describe 'test' do it { Time.now.should be_a(Time) } end
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<hemanth> using hash is a better way of avoiding parameter coupling?
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<bean> in 2.0 there are keywork argument
<bean> s
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<hemanth> bean, ya, but is that a good way? Even though it's a single parameter, it will have many entities ...
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<bean> I guess I don't know what you mean by parameter coupling
<bnagy> I think he means ordering
<shevy> hemanth using a hash has one huge advantage - it's dead simple
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<shevy> if hash.has_key?(:cat)
<hemanth> shevy, oki :) felt so, but wanted to see how others are solving it
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<shevy> dunno yet, I dont have any real experience with 2.0, but I am reluctant to change to something until I know that the new way is totally kick ass
<shevy> and, I forget the syntax...
<hemanth> bean, lesser number of args => less coupling
<hemanth> shevy, syntax can be looked up anytime :) ?
* bean doesn't think it matters too much
<shevy> yeah but it's time
<shevy> I'd rather not have to lookup... hmm
<shevy> is it this?
<shevy> def foo(i, bla: 'lala', ble: 'lolo)
<shevy> nope
<shevy> def foo(str: "foo", num: 424242, **options)
<hemanth> :)
<shevy> now I remember why I don't like it
<shevy> the two *
<shevy> :(
<hemanth> C like feel
<shevy> I dont want to have to look carefully between * and **
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<hemanth> need to get used to it?
<shevy> dunno, perhaps
<shevy> but it just doesn't feel right, right now
* bean would rather just pass arguments :P
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<shevy> hehehe yeah
<shevy> for small methods definitely
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* hemanth 's n/w $uck$ real time!
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<cordoval> guys what is the command to specify the version out of the many i have for vagrant?? gem 'vagrant', '= 1.0.4' ?
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<bean> cordoval, should just be gem 'vagrant', '1.0.4'
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<bean> cordoval, as a side note, vagrant is no longer being distributed as a gem.
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<cordoval> thanks
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<shevy> hey bean do you have any cool ruby projects?
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<shevy> anyone of you tried to do unix pipes in ruby?
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<havenwood> shevy: Storimer's book on Unix Processes is awesome. I need to re-read it, not long but full of win.
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<shevy> interesting, thanks for the link havenwood
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<Boohbah> how can i read arrow key input from STDIN.getch from io/console
<Boohbah> or rather, what should i use instead of getch to read the 3 characters that comprise an arrow key?
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<shevy> Boohbah this I have always wondered myself
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<hemanth> What pattern do the object IDs for small integers follow? 2n+1?
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<otters> has anybody had a problem with rmagick ignoring fonts
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<Boohbah> hamakn: yes, for Fixnum
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<shevy> otters I thought rmagick is long dead
<otters> is it?
<otters> what do people use?
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<shevy> pure imagemagick perhaps + system() calls to it?
<otters> ewww
<shevy> well that one has commits
<shevy> so perhaps it is not 100% dead
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<shevy> oh interesting, look
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<shevy> Release 2.13.1: at 2010-04-05 20:21
<shevy> Release 2.13.2: at 2013-02-02 21:30
<otters> nice
<shevy> seems as if it made a comeback this year
<Hanmac> what suprise me more is that rubyforge is still used :D
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<shevy> hehe
<shevy> well
<shevy> github only allows .zip or?
<shevy> and no .gem
<otters> rubygems allows .gem
<shevy> I prefer http://rubygems.org/ in general
<shevy> yeah
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<Hanmac> hm ... for some reason yeah :'(
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<shevy> one day when I figure out how to add documentation, I'll add +20 more gems at least
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<otters> now I'm trying to figure out how to composite text with rmagick :(
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<shevy> hehe
<shevy> imagemagick is cool
<otters> i guess
<shevy> you can create complete pictures
<shevy> and font manipulation too
<shevy> without having to use gimp
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<shevy> exec('ls')
<shevy> hahaha
<shevy> that kinda quits irb
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<riginding> /win next
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<hemanth> Heya Hanmac
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<willbradley> thanks for the help earlier; contributing back: willbradley.name/2013/03/rails_localization_i18n_tools/
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<JLT> if ( @listenTo.include? $1 || $1 == @master ) - how come this doesn't seem to work. @listenTo does not have my nickname, but @master is my nickname so the if statement should return true... right?
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<JLT> It appears my || is breaking it...
<JLT> if ( @listenTo.include? $1 || $1 == @master ) ... I individually tested each one and it works, but together in an || it wont...
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<Hanmac> JLT if you not use () you need or , not ||
<Hanmac> or swap it: $1 == @master || @listenTo.include? $1
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<JLT> if ( (@listenTo.include? $1) || ($1 == $master) ) or if ( @listenTo.include?($1) || $1 == @master )
<JLT> ?
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<Hanmac> JLT or my last line
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<wf2f> anyone with clues on how to make a bot move in a game like diablo 3
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<tagrudev> inside loop meets a criteria I want to break from the inside and continue with the outside loop should I use next 2 ? or just break ?
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<Hanmac> wf2f like: loop {look_for_something? ? move_to_something : goto_unknown_place; enemy_near? attack : move_again}
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<Hanmac> wf2f if you are crazy enough you could design it as FiniteStateMachine :D
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<wf2f> lol
<wf2f> no
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<leo2007> folks, could you help me with the following questions? 1. what is the best repl? 2. what is the best static analysis tool 3. What is the best debugger? 4. any other tools one should miss for modern ruby development?
<leo2007> thanks you for your answers.
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<Hanmac> leo2007 1) irb or pry, 4) rake should not be missed
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<leo2007> Hanmac: thanks for that.
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<leo2007> does irb support completion?
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<Hanmac> leo2007 no
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<Hanmac> leo2007 and same for editors, PLEASE understand that ruby is SO dynamic that tab completion does NOT makes sense
<leo2007> I understand that I have used languages more dynamic than ruby.
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<Hanmac> tagrudev: [[1, 2, 4], [3, 4, 6], [5, 6], [7, 8], [1, 2]].map {|sub| sub.find {|e|e%2==0}}.compact
<Hanmac> leo2007 give me a sample i dont know any language that is more dynamic than ruby :P
<tagrudev> I need a way to exit a loop on a met criteria Hanmac
<leo2007> Hanmac: see lisp.
<tagrudev> that's a dummy test case just to explain What I want
<Hanmac> leo2007 but ruby is more objectoriented :P
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<leo2007> not as oop as CLOS which by the author of smalltalk is the best OOP implementation.
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<leo2007> incarnation*
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<Hanmac> leo2007 did you know that in ruby you can create classes inside objects?
<keymone> leo2007: and how would you measure dynamic-ness of a language?
<tagrudev> I need a break
<tagrudev> :D
<leo2007> keymone: depending on how much is deferred to the run time.
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<leo2007> Hanmac: why not?
<Hanmac> leo2007 i dont say "not", i say that you "can"
<Hanmac> tagrudev: imo an find would be better than your way: .map {|sub| sub.find {|e|e%2==0}}.compact
<leo2007> anyway I am just collecting tools to see if the tooling in ruby can be as good as python's.
<tagrudev> Hanmac, ty
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<pcarrier_> hey
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<pcarrier_> would anybody know where Gem::DependencyResolver was in ruby 1.9.3?
<Hanmac> leo2007 everything you can do in python can be done in ruby too (but in ruby you have more frees)
<pcarrier_> I mean, the equivalent functionality
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<leo2007> Hanmac: ruby is probably more functional since it at least gets lexical scoping right.
<leo2007> python is a bit retarded in that regard.
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<Hanmac> leo2007 does this works in python too?
<Hanmac> >> class o=Object.new; class ABC;end;end; o.singleton_class::ABC
<eval-in> Hanmac => /tmp/execpad-24cc5454afa6/source-24cc5454afa6:2: class/module name must be CONSTANT ... (http://eval.in/13314)
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<Hanmac> >> class << o=Object.new; class ABC;end;end; o.singleton_class::ABC
<eval-in> Hanmac => #<Class:0x4225140c>::ABC (http://eval.in/13315)
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<leo2007> Hanmac: I think so.
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<awestroke> What is it called when you "alias" some methods to go through an object, like so: "proxy_method :to_a, to: :an_internal_object
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<Mon_Ouie> Delegating
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<Mon_Ouie> Or forwarding, as there's the Forwardable module in stdlib that allows it
<Hanmac> awestroke you could use the delegate stuff from the stdlib
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<awestroke> looked at the delegate class, but I don't want it to automatically create the object
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<awestroke> forwardable looks great!
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<Arafangion> What's a good unzip library for rake?
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<Arafangion> I want to unpack a particular .zip file to a particular directory.
<Arafangion> But... I also want it to be portable.
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<Arafangion> Hmm. Is this the right place to ask about rake?
<Arafangion> If I have a file task that generates a file, and incidentally, also generates other files which are dependencies...
<Arafangion> Eg: file 'foo.c' => 'foo.zip' do sh "unpack foo.zip" end
<Arafangion> But foo.zip contains other source files.
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<Arafangion> What might be a good wayt o manage that?
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<Arafangion> Also, how do I avoid writing: require 'rubygems' in ruby 1.8?
<Hanmac> Arafangion: with uninstalling ruby1.8
<hackeron> is there some library for Ruby to fork say 100 processes and monitor them and restart if needed? -- I tried God and Bluepill but they had no dependencies (starting 1 process only if another is started) and weren't really suited for more than a few processes (very high CPU load with more than 20 or so).
<Arafangion> Hanmac: touche.
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<shellox> hi
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<shellox> can anyone help me with a regex please. I want to match all the text between --- and ---
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<shellox> I currently use ant = articleContent.match(/---(.*)---/m)[1].strip
<shellox> but this doesn't seem to be optimal ;)
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<Arafangion> shellox: Definitely not. Multiline?
<shellox> Arafangion: yep
<Arafangion> shellox: And you aren't using non-greedy matching?
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<shellox> non-greedy?
<Hanmac> what about: articleContent[/---\*(.*)\*---/m,1]
<Arafangion> shellox: Why not just split by '---' istead?
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<shellox> Hanmac: thanks
<shellox> Arafangion: hmm, true, that seems to be better readble
<shellox> readable
<Arafangion> Hanmac: What if you have more than one such potential match?
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<Hanmac> hm from what i can see "articleContent" only holds one article
<Hanmac> hm imo there should be an each_paragraph method :P
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<Arafangion> Hanmac: But the regex doesn't know that, surely it would have to look-ahead just in case?
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<mhn23> good day everybody.
<Arafangion> mhn23: G'day.
<mhn23> i'm new to web development. so i read about there is php, which is well known, and ruby, asp etc. what is ruby? when do i use it? should i learn it?
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<Arafangion> mhn23: Ruby is a language, as is php.
<mhn23> yeah i figured that
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<mhn23> so when do i use it? should i learn it? are the capabilities the same as php?
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<mhn23> i see people often use php for sql work
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<mhn23> so i thought. well if ruby is "better" should i learn it rather than php?
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<Arafangion> mhn23: It is a question of which suits the job. There are usually other requiremetns that dictate the language and framework you choose.
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<Arafangion> mhn23: Pick one. Learn it. Get fed up with it. Pick something else.
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<mhn23> mh i see
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<JonnieCache> mhn23: sinatra is a good choice
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<JonnieCache> so is rails
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<JonnieCache> learning rails, getting sick of it and then applying its ideas to sinatra is a proven pathway
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<mhn23> hahaha alright thx for suggestion
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<Arafangion> mhn23: Do note the humour used.
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<mhn23> noted: get into sinatra
<Arafangion> Hanmac: Spammer, you're filling up my scrollback with attempted nick changes. :)
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<JonnieCache> mhn23: the point is there is a lot to learn from rails. but as you use it more and more it becomes constricting
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<Hanmac> mhn23 i suggest if you really want to learn Rails, please learn Ruby first
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<Arafangion> mhn23: Are you working in a team by any chance?
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<mhn23> no just by interest
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<mhn23> >implying it was funny
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<mhn23> i do webdesign by myself and some js/jQuery but i got some interest getting into php or an alternative
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<mhn23> why the fuck are you spamming
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<shellox> mhn23:looks a bit like a bot
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<mhn23> good that this chan doesn't have an op then...
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<JonnieCache> it does have ops they just dont wear the @ all the time
<JonnieCache> banister`sleep: we need your powers
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<JonnieCache> apparently
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<Naeblis> Hi. I need something like SML Pattern matching in Ruby. I want to check if a subarray ["foo", 10] exists in an array, only, the second element can be any integer. I tried regex, but it's not working.
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<Naeblis> (won't work, since regex won't match with Fixnums, I imagine)
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<JonnieCache> interesting
<JonnieCache> you could iterate with each_slice but it would depend on the nature of the data in the array, does it always come in pairs?
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<Naeblis> yes
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<Naeblis> always a [string, int] pair
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<tobiasvl> >> >> [["bar", 3], ["foo", 5], ["foo", 10]].select {|a| a[0] == "foo" && a[1].to_s =~ /\d/ }
<eval-in> tobiasvl => /tmp/execpad-eae143c3c41d/source-eae143c3c41d:2: syntax error, unexpected >> ... (http://eval.in/13359)
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<tobiasvl> >> [["bar", 3], ["foo", 5], ["foo", 10]].select {|a| a[0] == "foo" && a[1].to_s =~ /\d/ }
<eval-in> tobiasvl => [["foo", 5], ["foo", 10]] (http://eval.in/13360)
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<Xeago> sorry for that auth spam
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<JonnieCache> >> puts [["bar", 3], ["foo", 5], ["foo", 10]].detect {|a| a[0] == "foo" && a[1].is_a? Numeric }
<eval-in> JonnieCache => /tmp/execpad-63f3e9ae14cd/source-63f3e9ae14cd:2: syntax error, unexpected tCONSTANT, expecting '}' ... (http://eval.in/13361)
<JonnieCache> >> puts [["bar", 3], ["foo", 5], ["foo", 10]].detect {|a| a[0] == "foo" && a[1].is_a?(Numeric) }
<eval-in> JonnieCache => foo ... (http://eval.in/13363)
<JonnieCache> something like that
<tobiasvl> yeah
<JonnieCache> each_slice would be for when the arrays arent nested
<Xeago> does anyone know the incantation to NickServ to not kick off a second authenticated connection?
<k610> how can i run then install "rvm requirements" before failling installing ruby using rvm.io oneliner ?
<Naeblis> cool
<Naeblis> thanks guys!
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<JonnieCache> k610: try #rvm
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<k610> JonnieCache, it ain't installed yet
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<hackeron> hey, I want to create a log method for every severity, so say log.info('asd') and log.emerg('asd') - right now, I'm doing [:emerg, :alert, ...].each do |method| and then I do eval where I def #{method}(msg) -- is there a cleaner way?
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<k610> JonnieCache, sry i see u ment the channel
<JonnieCache> hackeron: you can just do `def` inside the loop i think
<JonnieCache> hackeron: or you can call define_method with a block
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<JonnieCache> no you need the second one, def wont take a variable like that
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<JonnieCache> you need `def method_name do |*args|`
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<hackeron> JonnieCache: yeh, so how do I do that? - define_method(logger[0], *args) { log(logger[0], args) }?
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<JonnieCache> yep, except logger[0] would be the block variable from your each call, and you need to splat the args variable again when you pass it into log
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<hackeron> JonnieCache: I don't believe that works, I found an example online that looks like this: define_method method.to_sym, ->(*args) { log(method.to_sym, *args) }
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<JonnieCache> thats basically the same thing
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<JonnieCache> except youre passing a lambda instead of using the block syntax
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<JonnieCache> oh no the missing bit before was the block param
<hackeron> JonnieCache: yeh, it looks like you have to: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/89650/how-do-you-pass-arguments-to-define-method
<JonnieCache> define_method(method) {|*args| log(method, args) }
<JonnieCache> will work
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<JonnieCache> i didnt read properly before for some reason
<JonnieCache> it assumes that method is already a symbol
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<hackeron> define_method(method.to_sym) {|*args| log(method.to_sym, *args) } :)
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<hackeron> trying that
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<JonnieCache> it will be neater to just make sure that method is already a symbol, by just puting symbols in your array
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<hackeron> JonnieCache: true, thanks :) - trying
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<apeiros_> Hanmac: sorry, was afk. but it seems to have resolved itself
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<hackeron> JonnieCache: hmm, I just see logs like [debug]: #{s_prefix}#{msg} -- looks like the *args are not passed correctly
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<apeiros_> Xeago: seems I had noob luck. The pc did not explode after building it together. I'm *probably* available from 20.00 on for HOTS :D
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<jayz12> question: rdoc's executable "rdoc" conflicts with /usr/local/bin/rdoc - what to do?
<jayz12> I am trying to set up redmine what for I need ruby.
<jayz12> I am a total newb to ruby
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<irocksu> Hi
<irocksu> when i try to irb i get always the following error
<irocksu> custom_require.rb:36:in `require':LoadError: cannot load such file -- irb/completition
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<irocksu> i figured that this might be due to readline
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<irocksu> but somehow i cannot fix this problem
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<irocksu> i am on mac mountain lion with rbenv
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<Hanmac> irocksu: does »require "readline"« works?
<irocksu> false
<irocksu> it seems it does not work
<irocksu> i used this command to install my ruby CONFIGURE_OPTS="--with-readline-dir=/usr/local --with-openssl-dir=/usr/local" rbenv install 1.9.3-p392
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<Hanmac> irocksu: when require returns false it already worked ..
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<irocksu> oh, then its something else
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<julian-delphiki> shevy, I wish I had some cool ruby projects, I'm just an opinionated DevOps guy.
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<lessless> why I'm getting undefined method `attribute' for TestClass:Class error in https://gist.github.com/dirty-hippie/709928d2e9f1a472d418 ?
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<Hanmac> lessless extend
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<MrZYX> lessless: include makes attribute an instance method, you're calling it as a class method
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<lessless> ah, ok :D
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<julian-delphiki> PseudoModuel::attribute would likely work :P but i imagine thats not what you want
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<Hanmac> julian-delphiki i dont think so
<julian-delphiki> probably not
<julian-delphiki> i haven't had my coffee yet
<julian-delphiki> :)
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<julian-delphiki> meh, not even 8am yet, warming up my car, getting coffee, heading to work :)
<lessless> I have a restriction to use include in my task, so I'm curious if is it possible or it is a trap? :)
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<MrZYX> I'd say both
<julian-delphiki> lessless what is this for?
<Hanmac> julian: its homework i think
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<lessless> not really, it's an application for a job
<Hanmac> lessless singleton_class.send(:include) are nearly equal to extend
<Spooner> lessless, name.to_s +'=' would normally be: "#{name}=" (though helping with a job application seems the most pointless thing to do because you'll fall down on the interview :D).
<Hanmac> lessless: OR: PseudoModel does have: def self.included(mod);mod.extend(self);end
<ner0x> Using rvm how do I installed --current with the source as well? I've looked at the website but didn't see anything ruby-head installs the dev.
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<lessless> thanks, guys, I'll dig everything out
<julian-delphiki> ner0x, what are you attempting to accomplush
<Hanmac> ner0x: #rvm
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<ner0x> Ah! Didn't know they had their own channel. Thanks. :)
<lessless> Spooner, I love programming so do not want to delegate a fun, just asking what I do not know or in doubt :)
<ner0x> julian-delphiki: And a stable install with -dev source.
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<julian-delphiki> lessless, just wondering, what is the question for the interview?
<julian-delphiki> ner0x, not sure why you'd need the source though?
<lessless> julian-delphiki, no, it's a test assignment
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<julian-delphiki> lessless, ah, okay
<ner0x> julian-delphiki: gem needs it for some reason.
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<julian-delphiki> ner0x, what gem?
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<ner0x> julian-delphiki: debugger-linecache
<julian-delphiki> ner0x, `gem install ruby-debug19` first, i think
<ner0x> julian-delphiki: Wouldn't it handle that dep?
<lessless> what I really do not know answer for is why should I use self.class.send(:define_method,name) instead of define_method(name)...
<julian-delphiki> apparently not
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<ner0x> julian-delphiki: I'll try it out.
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<julian-delphiki> lessless, probably not much of a reason to, imo, you can just replace 'include' with 'extend' and you'll be golden.
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<ner0x> julian-delphiki: No dice.
<julian-delphiki> hmm, ner0x, okay.
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<johnmilton> what does?: mean in a regex
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<Arafangion> johnmilton: What context?
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<lolzie> Hey guys. In the case of an IRC server, say - you've got a Channel, a couple of Users. If one user is to kick another, would you arrange it as in channel.kick(kicker, kickee), or kicker.kick(channel, kickee) ?
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<lolzie> Actively speaking it seems like the kicking method would be part of a User, but something at the back of my mind tells me it's more Channel-oriented. Hmm.
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<johnmilton> Arafangion: /\A(?<a>|.|(?:(?<b>.)\g<a>\k<b+0>))\z/
<Xeago> lolzie: in IRC RAW messages I think it is user kick channel kickee
<Xeago> look at the irc protocol, and stick close to that imo
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<Arafangion> johnmilton: Introduces a group without using a name.
<johnmilton> ah
<Arafangion> johnmilton: A non-capturing group, so to speak.
<johnmilton> makes sense
<johnmilton> thank you
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<lessless> juarlex, but if I extend won't attribute be a class method?
<Arafangion> johnmilton: But do read the documentation. ALmost every single regex engine does things differently with respect to at least one aspect of regex.
<lessless> julian-delphiki, but if I extend won't attribute be a class method?
<lolzie> Xeago: I see. Though I'm trying to learn the more general lesson from this; assuming I didn't have a raw protocol message to read - how would I best decide?
<Arafangion> The worst being vim.
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<johnmilton> yea i was referencing oniguruma's cheat sheet
<johnmilton> didn't see an explanation for that one
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<Arafangion> johnmilton: Use the actual documentation.
<Arafangion> johnmilton: It's terse as it is, you can't get much more terse without actually removing stuff.
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<johnmilton> ok ill check it out
<lessless> sorry, I mean methods defined in 'attribute' will be a class methods
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<lolzie> If anybody active wouldn't mind contributing to my little question above concerning how best to work out which class would be best to put a 'kick' method in, it would be much appreciated! :)
<lolzie> (Like I say, I'd love to know the general way to do that, using the raw irc protocol as a crux is cheating, hehe :)
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<lessless> Hanmac, thanx, although I feel a cheater now ;(
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<Xeago> lolzie: decide by the thing that authors the action
<Xeago> or does the action
<Xeago> in this case the user
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<Xeago> is this for a client or serverside question?
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<JonnieCache> subject verb object
<lolzie> Xeago: that was server side. It just proved to be a good example in my head where I wasn't sure
<JonnieCache> op kicks luser
<lolzie> JonnieCache: that seems memorable :)
<JonnieCache> its a good rule of thumb for OO
<Xeago> yea, that is kinda what I meant JonnieCache :P
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<mattypelly> test
<lolzie> Xeago: haha credit to you, you meant exactly what JonnieCache said, I liked his aphorism to go with it hehe :)
<lolzie> Cheers guys
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<habib> Hi everyone
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<habib> ruby: symbol lookup error: /home/habib/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p0/gems/gosu-0.7.45/lib/gosu.so: undefined symbol: glXChooseVisual
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<Hanmac> habib haha :P
<Hanmac> habib was the gem precompiled??
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<Hanmac> Banistergalaxy: you are from the gosu team, fix it :P
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<pskosinski> 8 vulnerability reports, a few days ago there were 3 iirc >.>
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<Hanmac1> pskosinski no worry that are mostly rails ones
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<pskosinski> Yeah, I read list and do't see anything what I am using, good :p
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<lessless> why obj.respond_to? :attributes => false in https://gist.github.com/dirty-hippie/709928d2e9f1a472d418 ?
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<apeiros_> eeeew, self.included extend hack
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<apeiros_> it's false because you have no attributes method
<apeiros_> only an attributes= method
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<apeiros_> @ lessless ^
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<lessless> apeiros_, rofl :D
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<seme> hi guys is there any example of how to build a client app (not rails) that uses omniauth? I'm trying to find something and everything I find requires rails
<seme> I appreciate any guidance you guys may have :)
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<cearls> seme: What about using Sinatra? https://github.com/charliepark/omniauth-for-sinatra
<Gowie> Is there any callback when an object is killed in memory? I am forking a process and if program runs into an error then that child process sticks around and needs to be killed manually (kill -9 (pid)).
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<markalanevans> Hey Guys, quick question about classes:
<markalanevans> There is a section where they include routes/inlt.rb
<markalanevans> then it includes login.rb and main.rb
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<markalanevans> Each of those defines a class as such: class MyApp < Sinatra::Application
<markalanevans> But appears that they way the logic works as that each time that is done, it extends the previous
<markalanevans> extend may be the wrong word, but it doesn't override the last class
<markalanevans> I would have that that it overrided, not added on to the previous definition...
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<markalanevans> What is it called that is happening here?
<MrZYX> Sinatra::Aplication keeps track of it's subclasses
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<MrZYX> (I'd say that's it, maybe it just keeps track of all defined routes globally)
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<markalanevans> MrZYX: but its just an include, should it by nature just override before Sinatra has a chance do to anything with it?
<MrZYX> where's an include?
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<banister`sleep> MrZYX: its* :P
<markalanevans> *sorry require
<markalanevans> They are require_relatives
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<markalanevans> I just figured that the ruby language would through a fit before allowing multiple declarations of the same class name, or just assume it should take the last one.
<MrZYX> oh I skipped that they use the same constant, so yeah that's how it works in ruby, you can reopen any class at any given time, even the core ones: class String; def my_method; magic_stuff; end; end; "foo".my_method
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<markalanevans> I'm not following
<markalanevans> ReOpen?
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<MrZYX> class Foo; can be called "opening a new class" less "defining it"
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<markalanevans> Ok.
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<markalanevans> So basically if you do that multiple times it litterlay is just "adding" to the last definition of it
<MrZYX> yep
<markalanevans> Interesting.
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<MrZYX> you can overide methods too: class Foo; def bar; stuff; end; end; class Foo; def bar; super; other_stuff; end; end;
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<bean> class String; def to_awesome; self.gsub /(?!^)..?/, &:capitalize;end;end "lol this string is awesome".to_awesome;
<bean> >> class String; def to_awesome; self.gsub /(?!^)..?/, &:capitalize;end;end "lol this string is awesome".to_awesome;
<eval-in> bean => /tmp/execpad-df6050ff187a/source-df6050ff187a:2: syntax error, unexpected tSTRING_BEG, expecting keyword_end ... (http://eval.in/13392)
<bean> >> class String; def to_awesome; self.gsub /(?!^)..?/, &:capitalize;end;end; "lol this string is awesome".to_awesome;
<eval-in> bean => "lOl tHiS StRiNg iS AwEsOmE" (http://eval.in/13393)
<bean> and thats how you add methods to string :D
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<markalanevans> Wow. Ok that makes sense.
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<wuest> bean, s/awesome/aol/
<markalanevans> Thanks MrZYX & bean
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<bean> wuest: agreed, it was the first, silliest, example I could come up with
<bean> np, markalanevans
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<wuest> bean: not at all a bad example, hehe
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<cr3> how can I initialize an OpenStruct with a hash?
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<bean> cr3: h = {:my => "hash"}; obj = OpenStruct.new; h.each { |k,v| obj.k = v}
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<bean> err, the .k is wrong
<bean> sec
<MrZYX> .send
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<MrZYX> but you can do OpenStruct.new(hsh) as well
<bean> ah,
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<bean> yeah
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<bean> that works
<bean> lol
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<dankest> What the heck kind of hash is this? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5222733
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<JonnieCache> one with strings for keys
<JonnieCache> and some really fucked up strings at that
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<dankest> Yeah, I can't get it to convert at all
<dankest> Fuck, I was hoping it was some weird pattern I just hadn't seen before
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<dankest> Any idea how I might get it into a normal array?
<dankest> er
<dankest> hash?
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<`p> hash of hashes with strings as keys
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<`p> er array of hashes with strings as keys ?
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<silur> Hello
<dankest> 'p I just can't get Ruby to interact with it in any way but as a string
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<`p> lemme open up the link again and take a look again one sec
<silur> Q: 'x' is undefined. x=1 if false ---> makes 'x' == nil. Shouldn't it remain undefined in a strict sense?
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<dankest> 'p thanks!
<apeiros_> silur: ruby has no "undefined", hence no
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<apeiros_> silur: the moment an lvar is known to the parser it exists. whether the specific branch where it is being assigned is actually executed is irrelevant
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<silur> apeiros_, thanks. I guesss ruby console confused me with: "NameError: undefined local variable or method ..."
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<Ingo2> Hi, i am Ruby newbie and i´d like to know if someone knows this book and tell me if its any good to enter the Rails world: http://t.co/2MYahDru7m
<dankest> 'p IT'S A PHP SERIALIZED STRING
<dankest> Stupid fucking thing
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<markalanevans> Hey folks, any of you using DataMapper
<markalanevans> I wanted to start using it, and i'm trying to set my primary key to be a UUID
<markalanevans> i'm using mysql
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<markalanevans> its from 2008
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<mollitz> exit
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<markalanevans> Am i missing something? DataMapper doesn't support UUID? WTF?
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<shevy> Hanmac2 hahah yeah... the movies were kidified
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<svend> Is there a standard way to process file names passed to a ruby script? For each file, process each line. If no file names passed or filename is - use stdin.
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<svend> Something like Python's fileinput.
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<i42n> Does anyone know why this causes a syntax error?
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<yasu> Try <%= podcast["db"].nil? ? podcast["podcast"] : podcast["db"].name %>
<i42n> yasu: omg how trivial :O
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<yasu> or <%= if podcast["db"].nil? then podcast["podcast"] else podcast["db"].name end %>
<yasu> :-)
<bricker> ew
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<bricker> <%= podcast["db"].try(:name) || podcast["podcast"] %> I WIN!
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<bricker> Eagle for the win!
<bricker> The crowd goes wild!!
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<bricker> oh wait I thought this was #RoR
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* bricker switches tabs
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<shevy> bricker lol
<shevy> you forgot one thing bricker
<shevy> The crowd removes its clothes!
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<Washu> Hi, does anyone know of any good visual programming software? (easy description is visual basic for other languages)
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<shevy> Washu hmm dont think so, most are probably dead. perhaps smalltalk with squeak is semi-visual?
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<Washu> shevy: :<
<lolzie> Hi, how can I best have Hash raise another particular exception instead of KeyError upon a failed fetch()?
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<Hanmac> Washu what do you specialy mean with "visual programming software"?
<havenwood> lolzie: Why do you want to raise a different exception? You could rescue KeyError then raise your preferred exception. Or monkey patch Hash. >.>
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<lolzie> havenwood: I could rescue, but that'd mean rescuing and proxying that error in multiple places. Every time I get a KeyError I'm going to want the other exception.
<Hanmac> lolzie why?
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<lolzie> Hanmac: I have a series of Hashes - I'm fetching from each (in various points of the program) - I have the fetches encased in one rescue
<mikewintermute> Using ruby -rdebug. I put a breakpoint in at a line but when I try and output a variable using "p" the debugger says I'm in a different file and I get: debug.rb:130:in `eval':undefined local variable or method `query' for #<Net::BufferedIO io=#<TCPSocket
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<lolzie> one begin/rescue block I mean.
<Washu> Hanmac: putting the gui together with drag and drop and just writing functions for it
<Hanmac> lolzie: hash.fetch(key) { raise YetAnotherException }
<lolzie> If they all return KeyError, I won't know which one failed
<Hanmac> Washu: hm you could use wxWidgets ... it has gui editors
<lolzie> Hanmac: oh, cool.
<banister`sleep> mikewintermute: use pry instead http://pryrepl.rgo
<banister`sleep> err http://pryrepl.org
<mikewintermute> banister`sleep: k. why not use -rdebug?
<banister`sleep> mikewintermute: it's shit.
<havenwood> mikewintermute: +1 Pry
<banister`sleep> and unmaintained
<lolzie> Hanmac: I feel like it'd be a bit redundant doing that for every single time though. Is it so bad to monkey patch Hash.fetch?
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<banister`sleep> 'debugger' isn't bad tho
<Hanmac> lolzie for your use? yes
<lolzie> Hanmac: just to try and understand the rationale - why is it preferable to use { raise YetAnotherException } in many parts of the program rather than the one single patch?
<lolzie> I can't help but feel that the problem is still somewhat unsolved, the redundancy feels dirty
<Hanmac> lolzie i think the problem is deeper in your programm
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<preyalone> Hey #ruby! ruby -e "require 'multi_json'; puts MultiJson.load nil"
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<Hanmac> preyalone and?
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<preyalone> Hanmac: Try it
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<Hanmac> "cannot load such file -- multi_json"
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<preyalone> Hanmac: gem install multi_json, then run it.
<preyalone> It crashes Ruby in Windows, but not Mac or Linux.
<crazed> has anyone done sinatra-like + websockets? i see reel which uses celluiod-io, but not sure which framework seems to be most used
<Hanmac> i still not get it why i should install it
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<andrew12> preyalone: that segfaults ruby on my mac
<andrew12> Hanmac: because it's a bug
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<andrew12> good find, preyalone
<preyalone> andrew12: :)
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<mikewintermute> Hmm - pry isn't doing command line completion on the commands.
<banister`sleep> mikewintermute: it should do, try 'gem install bond' to get an enhanced (optional) completion too
<banister`sleep> mikewintermute: what commands are you trying to complete?
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<mikewintermute> aha - just realised. following a screencast and they autocompletes gist-method. but looking in help this command doesn't seem to exist. perhaps its been deprecated.
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<banister`sleep> mikewintermute: yeah it's just called 'gist' now
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<mikewintermute> other commands auto completing fine.
<banister`sleep> mikewintermute: type 'help' to get a list of commands
<mikewintermute> thanks
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<preyalone> If you get a crash for ruby -e "require 'multi_json'; puts MultiJson.load nil", or you don't get a crash, either way, it adds information for the debugging team. https://github.com/intridea/multi_json/issues/106
<banister`sleep> mikewintermute: do you enjoy it?
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<mikewintermute> banister`sleep: pry? awesome!
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<banister`sleep> mikewintermute: cool :)
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<peteyg> I have an array with ostruct elements with the property 'id'. Is there an shorthand way of saying "find me the element in this array with propery id = 3" in ruby?
<banister`sleep> peteyg: it's called 'find' :)
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<banister`sleep> peteyg: array.find { |o| o.id == 3 }
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<peteyg> banister`sleep: Okay, thanks! I did stumble upon the find method, but didn't know how to use it before (I was trying things like array.find(id:1) and array.find(&:id==1) to no avail)
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<banister`sleep> haha
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<banister`sleep> peteyg: yeah &: syntax doesn't quite work like that :)
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<macmartine> Can I make this only return files in subdirectories of 'analyzer', and not files that are at the root of 'analyzer'? Dir["lib/analyzers/**/*.rb"]
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<aedorn> So to add a step to pyAnaconda I just have to edit 8 files, add 3 new ones, and then it all works. Nope... not convoluted at all.
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<moscownights> geve all, i sort of know my way around python but now I need to write some ruby because the window manager im using is written in ruby. Im having some trouble understanding how to import/require modules from of what i think of as rubies equivalent of pythons site-packages
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<moscownights> the module im trying to import is in my path in vendor-ruby
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<moscownights> should i be able to import those modules from anywhere or is there something else I need to do?
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<moscownights> and if anyone has a good read about main differences /pitfalls for people coming from python
<moscownights> tia!
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<aedorn> wait, there's a window manager written in Ruby? For X or something else?
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<moscownights> yeap, like it a lot
<moscownights> subtle
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<moscownights> ill get you the link, sec
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<aedorn> subtle.sourceforge.org ?
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<aedorn> er subforge.org
<aedorn> hmm,
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<moscownights> give it a shot id say, its surprisingly stable, fast and highly customizable
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<moscownights> (if you know ruby)
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<aedorn> hmmmm might have to see if I can use it instead of fluxbox
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<aedorn> anyway, if this is in /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby you can just require 'file' (don't need the .rb)
<aedorn> If it's in a subdirectory, like with what I see with subtle, then it's: require 'subtle/file'
<Washu> Hi, I have a problem whenever I try use any language with gtk, tk, wxwidgets which is the files can never be included, I'm on mac os x 10.6 and the programs are installed, I'm using some simple code from wikipedia
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<aedorn> ah .. C extensions for the actual manager, but scripted with Ruby. Pretty cool
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<moscownights> thanks aedorn, still a bit confused though, i can import the different subtle modules just fine from a file
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<moscownights> but in the interpreter it throws an file not found error
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<aedorn> moscownights: Is the path you're loading from in $LOAD_PATH?
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<moscownights> yes, aedorn, atleast I think so, '$:' outputs among others this path: ""/usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.9.1"
<moscownights> and thats where the subtle module is
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<moscownights> the subtle dir that is
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<moscownights> --------------------------------------------------------
<moscownights> my bad
<moscownights> sorry
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<aedorn> moscownights: what's the full path of the file and the filename?
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<moscownights> works now aedorn, i tried directly importing subtle, which apparently doesnt work because apparently ruby is not python
<moscownights> :d
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<moscownights> thanks for the help though
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<aedorn> mkay
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<moscownights> is there a dir equivalent in ruby? eg, after import an module finding out what methods and attributes it has?
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<banister`sleep> moscownights: in pry you can use "ls"
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<banister`sleep> moscownights: i.e: ls -M MyModule
<banister`sleep> to show methods
<banister`sleep> ls -i MyModule to show ivars
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<banister`sleep> type ls -h for a full list of options to ls
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<moscownights> cool, thanks banister`sleep
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<MrZYX> the relation between the module/class name and file name is just convention though, my_file.rb can define abitrary modules/classes/methods
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<banister`sleep> moscownights: but you'll need to install pry: http://pryrepl.org
<moscownights> installed it 5 minutes ago when i was looking for something like ipython :)
<banister`sleep> moscownights: btw how does it compare to ipython?
<moscownights> MrZYX: yea, what i said didnt make sense, i think modules are in that sense a bit like python modules?
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<MrZYX> well python modules are defined by the filenames, ruby modules by the module keyword
<moscownights> well, im at line 10 now so maybe a bit early to say, Ipython is pretty awesome though
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<banister`sleep> moscownights: what features do you use mostly in ipython ?
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<moscownights> i dont know if you ever tried ipython notebook?
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<moscownights> thats more for scientific/educational, i mainly use the terminal, it has lots of features, an excellent debugger, auto imports, auto reloading after file changes, history
<moscownights> and much much more
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<moscownights> ah I see MrZYX, and I guess all Modules when you use them need to be capitalized? since you import modules in lower case
<banister`sleep> moscownights: ah ok, i'd be interested what you think is missing in pry, let me know :)
<moscownights> heh banister`sleep, if you're on github ill make sure to leave some comments
<MrZYX> again you do not import modules, you load files in ruby. modules usually are assigned to constants, so they need to start with an uppcase letter
<banister`sleep> moscownights: be sure to install some plugins too, in particular pry-stack_explorer, pry-rescue, pry-debugger
<banister`sleep> moscownights: https://github.com/banister
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<moscownights> MrZYX: so that means in ruby you dont need to work with a hardcoded path/sys.path.append.. stuff
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<MrZYX> you could give require absolute and relative paths, but especially the later is discouraged. Have a look at $LOAD_PATH (inside ruby) to see where ruby searches for files, if you do require 'foo/bar' ruby appends that to each item in $LOAD_PATH and also adds .rb if there's no file extension given to require and tries to load that file
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<MrZYX> also try starting pry/ruby/irb with -Isomedir and compare $LOAD_PATH afterwards
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<bean> ah, damn, banister`sleep, I somehow didn't realize that you made Pry. I use it quite often and refuse to even use IRB these days.
<banister`sleep> cool
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<banister`sleep> bean: how did you find out i was involved in it, anyway? :)
<bean> when you linked your github up there ;)
<bean> and then looking at pry/pry
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<bean> and seeing the same name
<banister`sleep> oh ok
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<banister`sleep> cool
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<Paradox> hey banister`sleep. i guess you're asleep
<banister`sleep> no
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<Paradox> oh yay
<banisterfiend> :)
<Paradox> binding_of_caller
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<Paradox> wasnt that going to be a part of ruby 2 at some point
<Paradox> i remember reading that
<Paradox> not sure if it was on your readme or on the better_errors page
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<banisterfiend> Paradox: it is part of ruby 2 BUT it's not exposed to Ruby, it's part of the C API. I released a gem (debug_inspector) that exposes that API to Ruby, but the API is a bit weird, so i wrapped it again in binding_of_caller so the same api works across all supported ruby versions
<Paradox> ah, cool
<Paradox> mind if i quote you?
<banisterfiend> so probably best to just use binding_of_caller
<banisterfiend> Paradox: no problem, but who are you sharing it with out of interest?
<Paradox> reddit
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<banisterfiend> sure
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<ukd1> is there a way to require a ruby file which doesn't have the .rb extension? (i.e. Rakefile)
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<apeiros_> ukd1: load
<ukd1> apeiros_, awesome thanks
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<RoomieGunns> Hey Folks, I'm using mod_ruby And I'm trying to create a directory on the filesystem based on POST input. I keep getting "Insecure operation - mkdir (SecurityError)" errors (which I understand), but untaint-ing the input doesn't solve the issue like I understand it should. Can somebody point me in the right direction?
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<apeiros_> RoomieGunns: mod_ruby? that's been unmaintained for years.
<apeiros_> I'd strongly suggest using a rack based solution. e.g. passenger.
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<RoomieGunns> apeiros_: good times. will do.
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<A124> Hey. Could anyone recommend any article/page, etc. for multithreaded programming? (green threads or real threads, or even multiprocess, I could use all)
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<A124> gf3: Love you. Thank you very much. .. I once wrote pretty efficient and simple routine (I/O waiting) But that was 1.8.6 and now it's incompatible.
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<gf3> A124: *womp womp*
<gf3> A124: Celluloid + JRuby is really nice
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<A124> julian-delphiki: I missed that one, or "my" google did. Thanks.
<A124> gf3: I'm running MRI
<gf3> A124: It still works great with MRI
<A124> Celluloid IO seems nice
<A124> As I'm building distributed data architecture
<A124> Fancy, but not huge.
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