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<zzak> ringy dingy lol
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<postmodern> anyone super familiar with liquid templates?
<postmodern> need to know what "context" is, http://rubydoc.info/gems/liquid/Liquid/Tag:render
<postmodern> derp, it's probably Liquid::Context :)
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<mfn> morning
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<mfn> Can someone help me try understand how I can read at http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/File.html (or IO page?) that "File.write(filename, content)" works? I discovered it by accidant but can't find it documented this way
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<mfn> It acts like File.open(filename, 'w') { |f| f.write content } AFAICS
<erikh> yes, and is encoding-aware
<erikh> if you want to write binary files, use binwrite
<erikh> and write comes from IO
<erikh> it's just included (or wrapped, can't remember) in File.
<mfn> I found IO#write -> http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/IO.html#method-i-write , but it doesn't say that it takes a filename as first parameter ...
<mfn> ah, stupid me .. wrong write! that's the correct one: http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/IO.html#method-c-write
<mfn> I know see the difference. I always searched for '#write' when I wanted to search for '::write' within the page ...
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<mfn> s/know/now/
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<mfn> thanks :)
<mfn> I sometimes really wish I would have all available methods on a certain class available on a page, no matter if its inherited or mixed in
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<yorickpeterse> Morning
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<gnufied> morning
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<yorickpeterse> Best way to wake up on a Friday: find a new leakage in your kitchen
<erikh> mmmm leakage
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<matti> Hi hi erikh
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<mfn> Can I restart the application in pry when I'm in a pry session? I entered the session with "binding.pry" in my code; analysed some stuff and set a conditional breakpoint. But I'm already past this breakpoint; if a exit the session and restart my app -> breakpoint gone.
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<darix> mfn: how about
<darix> start application fresh with binding.pry very early
<darix> set breakpoints
<darix> and let it continue?
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<mfn> yes, I did this now. but I'd have to edit the source, then when I'm unlucky i may change line numbers; yep, it works. would be nice to restart the whole thing from pry without loosing breakpoints though
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<erikh> mfn: you should find banisterfiend and tell him that.
<erikh> he's absolutely crazy and will try really hard to make that work
<rue|w> That doesn’t really even sound hard
<rue|w> Just maintain the list of breakpoints somewhere and re-eval
<zzak> good morning!
<masterkorp> zzak: good afternoon
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<matti> Hi hi zzak
<zzak> masterkorp matti hiii
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<matti> :)
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<mfn> erihk: thx, will!
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<masterkorp> zzak: http://i.imgur.com/90GNB.jpg
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<rolfb> s/penny/ruby/
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<zzak> try explaining ruby to my mom
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<mfn> Using nokogiri, I've a code similar to http://pastie.org/4636285 ; shortened example of course, but basically that's it. I get 'Invalid retry' on that line and don't unterstand it; I thought I can force reevaluation of node.children.each ?
<darix> isnt retry for exceptions?
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<mfn> found this http://rubyquicktips.com/post/1122838559/redo-vs-retry and smilar things when searched for 'ruby retry'
<darix> seems it works in loops too
<mfn> Using 1.9.3p194 btw
<darix> mfn: is children an array or an iterator?
<mfn> darix: I don't know, it's from Nokogiri library. How can I find out? http://nokogiri.org/Nokogiri/XML/Node.html#method-i-children says it's a 'NodeSet'
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<darix> mfn: maybe nodeset doesnt support "rewind"?
<darix> mfn: what problem is your loop trying to solve?
<mfn> darix: I iterate over the children of "node" and possibly remove children and thus need to do the loop again
<mfn> hmm, maybe I don't really need to retry the loop .. will have to test
<darix> well removing elements of an array while looping is tricky :)
<mfn> exactly, that's why my first thought was to simply retry the whole operation .. but I just did a short test with nokogiri, seems to be fine. doc = Nokogiri::XML('<root><a></a><b></b><c></c>') and then doc.root.children.each { |child| p child; child.remove if child.name == 'b' }; still iterates over all children
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<mfn> darix: because you said "doesn't support rewind" -> ruby gives me a compile error. IMHO ruby doesn't know at this point whether node.children.each is going to be an iterator or not due it's dynamic nature
<mfn> uhm, well. the examples I find, e.g. http://www.tutorialspoint.com/ruby/ruby_loops.htm don't work for me, same error: 'Invalid retry' and 'compile error (SyntaxError)'
<mfn> https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/5284 is the only issue I could find; can't read Japanese unfortunately.
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<mfn> ok, I found some reference in the docs/ChangeLog-1.9.3 file "remove "retry" in block" and traced it to this commit: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/commit/860b40fd631f280fbc9164abdc36409dcfac7e27 . Seems this feature has been removed at some point already ..
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<mfn> git describe --contains 860b40fd631f280fbc9164abdc36409dcfac7e27 # => v1_9_0_0~382 ; seems this was removed during the 1.9 release
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<mfn> ok, this is how I can "emulate" retry: begin; 1.upto(5) { |i| p i; sleep 0.5 ; raise Exception if i == 3}; rescue Exception; retry; end . Any better ideas? If I would understand catch/throw better I'd try it ...
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<mfn> but I'd to use Exceptions for real control flow :/
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<injekt> vomit
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<matti> injekt: ;/
<matti> injekt: Now somebody has to mop the channel.
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<injekt> matti: after that gist, I think it should be you
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<matti> injekt: Why me? :<
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<injekt> matti: oh wrong person
<injekt> wmoxam should do it right
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<wmoxam> injekt: I gave what was asked for :o
<wmoxam> maybe you missed the original example
<wmoxam> :p
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<matti> Hehe
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<matti> injekt: Have some friday laugh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VuMdLm0ccU
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<injekt> lol
<matti> :>
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<NemesisD> is there a global setting for which gcc to use when compiling gems? i'm using RVM and at some point I think i configured it to use gcc-4.6, i want to try 4.7 instead
<lianj> hamster life, awesome
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<NemesisD> is it just whatever was used to compile ruby itself?
<injekt> NemesisD: what executable is being called?
<rue> Should be the one from rbconfig
<NemesisD> injekt: /usr/bin/gcc-4.6, i want it to use /usr/bin/gcc
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<injekt> NemesisD: what's in RbConfig::CONFIG['CC'] ?
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<NemesisD> injekt: /usr/bin/gcc-4.6
<injekt> there you go
<NemesisD> how can i change that?
<injekt> it's jut a hash ;)
<NemesisD> but it persists to disk?
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<injekt> you need to change it for your rbconfig
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<injekt> er extconf sorry
<NemesisD> injekt: i found an rbconfig in .rvm/src/ree-1.8.7-2012.02/source/rbconfig.rb but changing it has no effect, i don't have to rebuild the gem do i?
<injekt> I'm pretty sure it's overidable by ENV though, maybe try CC=gcc when you try and built it
<injekt> yes of course
<NemesisD> whoops, i mean rebuild ruby*
<injekt> oh no
<NemesisD> hmm. so i could add CC=/usr/bin/gcc in my .zshrc, was just curious is there was a permanent way to do it with ruby without having to add that
<injekt> RbConfig['CC'] is defined when you built ruby, I'm not sure how it persists
<NemesisD> ah now i remember why i switched. when using gcc-4.7 installing a gem with native extensions, i just get an error "C compiler cannot create extensiosn"
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<NemesisD> cannot create executables*
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<zzak> NemesisD: you're using 1.8 right?
<injekt> a wild zzak appears
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<zzak> what version of rvm?
<zzak> inkjet :D
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<NemesisD> zzak: ree 2012.02
<zzak> NemesisD: using rvm-head?
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<NemesisD> haven't headed in a bit but i don't think thats the issue. the compile dies on the the configure step thinking my gcc can't create executables
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<rue> NemesisD: You should look at the actual make log to see where that error comes from
<zzak> and what'd you try? CC=/usr/bin/gcc gem install whatever?
<rue> Could certainly be a path issue but could be something else
<NemesisD> zzak: yeah i did that
<zzak> which gem?
<NemesisD> zzak: ffi :( it'll happen with any native gem now though
<NemesisD> oddly enough a lot of the output from my config.log is using the wrong gcc
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<zzak> might have to reinstall, CC=path/to/whatever rvm install ree --enable-shared
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<NemesisD> what's the shared now?
<zzak> looks like you've got CC set to /usr/bin/gcc-4.6
<NemesisD> zzak: yeah i do. can't for the life of me find where RbConfig gets that
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<NemesisD> just gonna recompile ree lol
<NemesisD> DAT FFI. thanks guys. it seems to have worked!
<erikh> yeah ree and llvm don't get along
<injekt> s/ree/llvm/
<injekt> wait
<injekt> what did I just do
<injekt> I broke the matrix
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* zzak pew pew
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<erikh> cccccombo breaker
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<MrPunkin> Okay guys, using Tempfile to write a full file from a Net::HTTP response before moving it to its final file folder location so that zero / half-written files don't exist there. On smaller files if I don't 'read' the temp file within it's open block before copying it there is no data. What am I doing wrong? https://gist.github.com/3556509
<MrPunkin> I was doing this all directly to the files, but if there was an error or anything I didn't want the files existing in their final location. I guess I could simply remove them in a rescue block if that were an issue.
<MrPunkin> do I need to close it first in the block and unlink it in the ensure?
<MrPunkin> that seems to work just fine.
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<mfn> wmoxam: thx!
<wmoxam> mfn: np
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<andrewvos> MrPunkin: Maybe copy the file *after* you have written to it.
<andrewvos> MrPunkin: In other words, close it before you copy it.
<MrPunkin> andrewvos: yep. that seemed to work
<andrewvos> MrPunkin: I'm guessing that because it's such a small amount of data, it doesn't get flushed yet. Probably there's some sort of buffer size and it only gets written when this size is reached.
<MrPunkin> yeah. working great now that I close it before moving it
<andrewvos> Oh wow I didn't read the last two things you said.
<MrPunkin> haha
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<MrPunkin> its all good
<andrewvos> Damn it. And that was the one time when I was almost useful here.
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<mfn> wmoxam: so throw(:symbol, arg) lets the catch(:symbol) statement return the arg ?
<wmoxam> yup
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<mfn> that's fancy. thanks again for the sample
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<zzak> FRIDAY!
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<matti> ;]
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<MrPunkin> any way to set default attribute values for a class that is subclassed from Struct.new?
<Mon_Ouie> Redefine initialize
<Mon_Ouie> Also, don't do: class Foo < Struct.new(…); …; end — use Foo = Struct.new(…) do … end instead
<Mon_Ouie> This works even if the code gets reloaded and doesn't require to create an extra class
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<jadams_> hey hey
<jadams_> anyone want to give feedback regarding a callback-mechanism for rails controllers?
<jadams_> https://gist.github.com/3561348 trying that out right now, really enjoying the feel so far
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