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<jtoy> what is the uri/url equivalent to File.join?
<jtoy> looks like Uri build
<drbrain> URI::Generic#+
<drbrain> well, + is the most sensible way to combine URIs
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<Boohbah> hey chessguy
<Boohbah> chessguy: have you done any chess programming in ruby?
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<sheldonh> is there an idiom for determining whether one object has access to another's protected methods? my "The Ruby Programming Language" is at the office :(
<sheldonh> i think the rule is: allowed if the sender has an ancestor class that is an ancestor class of the receiver
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<sheldonh> but that would make every protected method access legit, because everything has BasicObject as an ancestor. so i don't think i'm remembering the rule correctly
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<sheldonh> got it. (@sender.class.ancestors - @sender.class.included_modules).include? @subject.class
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<sheldonh> how do i perform an alias_method on an instance object's eignenclass?
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<sheldonh> how about this? o.singleton_class.send :alias_method, :orig_method, :method
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<whitequark> class << self; alias orig_method method; end
<whitequark> erm, class << o
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<rue> You can also use #singleton_class, yes
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<sheldonh> whitequark: the disadvantage of class << is that it introduces a scope that has no access to variables one scope up
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<sheldonh> whitequark: you can get around that with an eval, but... well, we know where that leads :)
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<whitequark> sheldonh: o.singleton_class.class_exec do ... end
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<sheldonh> whitequark: hmmm. will that do something that o.singleton_class.send :alias_method, :orig_method, :method doesn't, in the context of method aliasing? obviously, what you're suggesting is way more general purpose
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<whitequark> sends are generally ugly
<whitequark> and my proposition describes exactly what you want to do
<whitequark> you want to execute the alias statement in the scope of the class.
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<sheldonh> whitequark: ah. class_exec. not class_eval. cool, a new toy. i'll take a look. thanks
<sheldonh> man, i wish send() didn't hide from the caller stack
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<JoelMcCracken> is there any easy way to generate the form field names that form helpers generate without actually generating the full field html?
<rue> JoelMcCracken: Probably. Did you want #rubyonrails?
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<brownies> hi
<rue> HI THERE
<brownies> i have a style/idiom question... maybe just bikeshedding, but still curious
<JoelMcCracken> rue: sorry for the faux pas!
<brownies> i'm cleaning up some old code, and i had this idea to remove some nesting http://pastie.org/private/qukm398dn2u2iwagt29cq
<brownies> is one more idiomatic than the other? does it matter? (are they both wrong?)
<manveru> they are different
<brownies> they're not the same?
<manveru> hm
<manveru> no
<brownies> accounts-to-users is one-to-many (one account may hold many users), but i don't think that matters here
<brownies> why are they not the same?
<manveru> depends on whether account.user is a heavy operation
<manveru> the approach 2 always calls that method
<brownies> oh, interesting, did not know that.
<brownies> oh, wait, that makes sense.
<manveru> in order for ||= to work, it has to :)
<brownies> heh, yeah.
<steveklabnik> hmmmm
<steveklabnik> yes
<manveru> i'd write it like that
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<Jake232> What happens to my ruby process if I tell it to suspend with sigstop
<Jake232> When I tell it to continue, will it actually continue from where it left?
<injekt> Jake232: try it
<injekt> (it does)
<injekt> but that's what you should do
<injekt> just run a loop or something, kill -s SIGSTOP <pid>; kill -s SIGCONT pid and see what happens
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