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<danielvdotcom>
greetings! is ruby pony still a great valid option for email?
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<steveklabnik>
totes
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<ryanf>
hey steveklabnik, I'm not sure I follow your view_context change in draper
<ryanf>
are you trying to call the view_context that's an instance method of that module?
<steveklabnik>
ryanf: hey!
<steveklabnik>
okay
<steveklabnik>
so
<steveklabnik>
view_context is a method provided by rails
<ryanf>
yes, but you are trying to call it from a singleton method of the Draper::ViewContext module
<steveklabnik>
uhhhh
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* steveklabnik
looks EXACTLY at the code
<steveklabnik>
so
<steveklabnik>
tha tmodule gets mixed into ApplicationController
<steveklabnik>
it's then an instance method
<ryanf>
no
<ryanf>
nothing happens to singleton methods when you mix in the module
<ryanf>
I'm talking about the current method
<steveklabnik>
sure, i should say 'acts like' or something
<steveklabnik>
oh, sorry
<steveklabnik>
uhhh yes
<steveklabnik>
i fucked up
<steveklabnik>
is the answer
<steveklabnik>
right.
<steveklabnik>
good call.
<ryanf>
:)
<steveklabnik>
:)
<steveklabnik>
do you want to submit a fix so that I can give you credit?
<steveklabnik>
:[
<ryanf>
sure, I'm not sure what it should be though. do you want to just do ApplicationController.new.view_context there instead?
<steveklabnik>
i should remember that we dont have good enough test coverage to just be like 'tests pass lol'
<ryanf>
I think I would slightly prefer to do it from the #helper/#h method instead, but I'm not sure I can support that
<steveklabnik>
self.new.view_context
<ryanf>
except that it seems simpler to keep current as a pure getter/setter
<ryanf>
nah, there's no self involved. those methods will never belong to anything other than Draper::ViewContext, so you don't really know what controller you're working with
<ryanf>
although you could add a hook
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<steveklabnik>
silly metaprogramming
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<steveklabnik>
i have to draw a physical diagram when i do this stuff
<ryanf>
but that won't work well in the most common case, which is mixing it into ActionController::Base, so I think we're stuck assuming that it's ApplicationControlle
<ryanf>
r
<ryanf>
yeah, easy to get tripped up
<ryanf>
anyway it's a pretty unimportant mistake, because it will only break in cases where it already would have broken
<steveklabnik>
right
<steveklabnik>
that's also sorta why I was like 'sure' and cowboy'd it
<steveklabnik>
:[
<ryanf>
how would you feel about adding a config option to draper for which class to get the default view_context from?
<ryanf>
so it could default to ApplicationController
<ryanf>
but if that doesn't make sense in some specific case, it could be changed
<steveklabnik>
i wouldn't be terribly opposed in theory.
<ryanf>
I've never used the enumerable thing, so not really
<steveklabnik>
roger.
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<steveklabnik>
i gotta figure out if/how i can test it
<ryanf>
I think you should probably add a rails test app
<steveklabnik>
that makes sense.
<ryanf>
stuff like this where it's a question of managing rails' behavior is going to be impossible to test in isolation
<steveklabnik>
test it like an engine
<ryanf>
yeah
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<ryanf>
this might not suffice for draper, but for pry-rails there is a rake task that generates a test app and then modifies it to add the necessary stuff, to avoid tracking an entire app
<ryanf>
might be simpler just to generate and track the app for draper though
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<matju>
with Time.new.strftime "%b", is it possible to get it localised ? my locale is recognised by bash, but Ruby still prints «Aug» instead of «Aoû»
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<erikh>
ohloh is more like an xbox achievement system
<erikh>
I'm thinking something that does everything github does right now, only pull based (from github's perspective) than push
<erikh>
pull reqs can still live on github, for example, and they're still the facilitator of that, or maybe they integrate with git-am
<erikh>
dunno. I'm merely brainstorming, I don't have the time to start a new project atm.
<erikh>
s/brainstorming/drunk/
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<banisterfiend>
erikh: hey we did a little project recently that lets you wrap pieces of code so that every exception (even C exceptions) are caught and drops you into the console at the failsite
<yorickpeterse>
How are you calling the task? Rake::Task['namespace:task'].invoke should do it
<Silex>
rake colibri:import
<Silex>
from the comamnd line
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<yorickpeterse>
yeah what you're doing won't work
<Silex>
why?
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<yorickpeterse>
The second import_tags will overwrite the first one if I'm not mistaken
<banisterfiend>
Silex: i dont think methods are unique to the namespace
<Silex>
that's pretty weird
<yorickpeterse>
No, it makes sense
<Silex>
I'm invoking colibri:import, why does it load trial:import at all?
<yorickpeterse>
namespaces themselves are evaluated when loading Rake, so are tasks up to a certain point (except for actual execution)
<Silex>
anyway, so rake tasks functions names must be unique? wtf
<yorickpeterse>
Anything defined in a namespace itself will be executed when loaded
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<banisterfiend>
i dont know where the method is ending up actually
<Silex>
import_tags makes perfect sense for both tasks
<banisterfiend>
probably on a weird internal object
<Silex>
I guess I'll have to namespace them like in C
<Silex>
colibri_import_tags, trial_import_tags
<yorickpeterse>
Or you know, just use modules?
<yorickpeterse>
or unique method names
<Silex>
I guess module it is, but if I include that module I'll have the same problem no?
<yorickpeterse>
Also, defining a task merely to call a method is somewhat redundant
<Silex>
oh wait not, I include it in the execution task
<Silex>
and I'm ok
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<Silex>
yorickpeterse: of course teh real case is much more complex, I just made a testecase for you
<Silex>
I have like 10 of such functions in each file
<banisterfiend>
Silex: the 'self' inside the namespace is just 'main
<Silex>
anyway, I'd find my way out. Thanks!
<yorickpeterse>
np
<Silex>
banisterfiend: still surprised the trial task is loaded when I invoke the colibri one
<banisterfiend>
Silex: it's just executed as ruby code
<banisterfiend>
Silex: the whole Rakefile is passed through ruby, it sets everything up. Or were you thinking the task would be have its block lazily evaluated?
<banisterfiend>
the namespace*
<banisterfiend>
would have its*
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<workmad3>
getting quite annoyed with selenium in this latest project (and it's the only web driver that has been consistently able to run our tests, despite annoyances)
<workmad3>
and I'm still getting used to normal pry, let alone fancy, magic extensions :D
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<banisterfiend`>
workmad3: oh hehe :)
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<sheldonh>
workmad3: selenium for acceptance tests, or for integration tests that prove basic correctness? *efg*
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<workmad3>
sheldonh: acceptance tests... very heavy JS dependency
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<sheldonh>
workmad3: so jasmine for unit and then just a sprinkling of acceptance tests?
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<workmad3>
sheldonh: we've got quite a few acceptance tests, which is where part of the annoyance comes in, but also yes jasmine for JS unit and rspec for ruby unit
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<apeiros_>
ah lovely… httpclient does not expand no_proxy wildcards :(
<andrewvos>
apeiros_: Oh wait. I thought you said "rest-client"
<andrewvos>
"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"
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<dreamhawk>
Hellu :), Quick question, i am a noob at ruby, and i am looking for a way to "re-execute" the script, or class, or something... All i want to do is like "Try again? Y/n" - if foo == 'Y' restart script.
<andrewvos>
dreamhawk: if STDIN.getch.downcase == "y"
<andrewvos>
dreamhawk: Might work
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<andrewvos>
Put the actual execution part of your script in a loop maybe.
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<andrewvos>
while STDIN.getch.downcase == "y"
<andrewvos>
Wait is that how a while loop looks in ruby? It's been a while.
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<apeiros_>
andrewvos: httpclient so far is the only one doing ntlm auth properly
<apeiros_>
and yeah, fuck MSFT for ntlm, seriously
* apeiros_
wants to go to redmond and punch faces
* apeiros_
hands bnagy an anchor: \A
<bnagy>
good point, cause they might type "Nay, good calculating automaton, for I am spent"
<apeiros_>
yepp
<apeiros_>
nay!
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<sheldonh>
andrewvos: or... Better to open your mouth and have your folly corrected, than to keep it closed and remain a fool. :)
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<workmad3>
andrewvos: also, the quote is, iirc, 'Better to stay silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt' (which is slightly more poetic and it plays on the almost rhyming nature of mouth and doubt) :P
<andrewvos>
TIL
<bnagy>
3 sources or you're just making it up
<workmad3>
bnagy: most of the crap I say is stuff I've just made up... why stop now? :)
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<dreamhawk>
andrewvos: yes, but, how do i get the script to start from line 1 again?
<dreamhawk>
since ruby is a "simple" language, i thought there was an easy way to reexecute it without exiting it :)
<bnagy>
try GOTO 10
<bnagy>
dreamhawk: that what wrapping the whole thing in a loop does
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<bnagy>
you can also use retry and redo in some cases, but not here
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<sheldonh>
dreamhawk: i would be vareful about thinking of ruby as a simple language :)
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<banisterfiend>
dreamhawk: require 'continuation'; c = nil; callcc { |cc| c = cc }; puts "hi!!!"; c.call
<charliesome>
continuations are dark and evil things
<banisterfiend>
yeah i got segfaults using them the other day
<banisterfiend>
but u can do some sexy stuff too
<banisterfiend>
like recover from exceptions even after the stack has unwound
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<judofyr>
yeah, that's a neat trick :)
<banisterfiend>
judofyr: yours i think :)
<judofyr>
oh, that's right
<judofyr>
\o/
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<rolfb>
\o/
<charliesome>
so what's the difference between #ruby and #ruby-lang ?
<apeiros_>
-lang
<charliesome>
i take it this channel focuses more on the language itself?
<apeiros_>
or 5
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<rue>
charliesome: No, this is the official IRC channel (see http://ruby-lang.org)
<sheldonh>
charliesome: us and them ;)
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<charliesome>
so i found what appears to be a bug in mri the other day
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<charliesome>
i could probably fix it myself, but what's the best way to go about sending that patch back?
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<FriedBob>
I've seen somethings that suggest it, but can someone confirm that rdoc can take multiple exclude arguments? Or if it can't, tell me how I can specify multiple exclude paths/patterns from a single --exclude? Thanks
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<yorickpeterse>
When you have a for loop such as `for number in [10, 20, 30]; ....; end`, what would you call the "number" segment and the "in ..." segment?
<yorickpeterse>
As in, is the former just called "variables" or something else
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<yorickpeterse>
Same goes for the latter, is this in general called the "source" or something else as well?
<yorickpeterse>
(I hope I'm making any sense here)
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<yorickpeterse>
The reason I'm asking is because I need a good name for the attributed to store both those data sources in (this is for a Ruby parser)
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<yorickpeterse>
Hm, "variables" and "enumerable" should do
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<drbrain>
I would use enumerable
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<matti>
Hi drbrain
<drbrain>
matti: hello
<drbrain>
!
<matti>
;)
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<zzak>
hello!
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<drbrain>
what's happening today?
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<zzak>
optimizing some rails code and catching up on ruby-core
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<drbrain>
neato
<matti>
Anyone knows somebody looking for Ruby / Systems person?
<erikh>
I'm cheffing all the things
<erikh>
making rails_env come from data bags
<drbrain>
erikh: nice
<erikh>
basically building an in-house PaaS
<erikh>
yeah, it's been a lot of fun
<drbrain>
matti: I get recruiter hits every so often, but they don't sound like places I'd want to actually work
<matti>
;-)
<drbrain>
erikh: I tried to do that once, but our sysadmins were not happy with chef
<erikh>
matti: define 'systems', and are you willing to relocate?
<drbrain>
matti: that, and I don't like dealing with third-parties
<erikh>
drbrain: ah, yeah, it's very much a vi vs emacs thing for no good reason
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<erikh>
we're looking for another devops dude
<erikh>
well, or dudette. I don't discriminate
<drbrain>
erikh: they'd built their own thing and said it was "super great"… but they didn't really want to share it
<drbrain>
so it was impossible to work our stuff into it
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<erikh>
ah
<erikh>
that's one of the reasons in-house software kind of sucks
<erikh>
but generally I tend to prefer it
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<erikh>
drbrain: is this at the death star?
<erikh>
anyhow, back to the grind
<drbrain>
at ATTi… the in-house thing is open source on sourceforge somewhere, but it is nowhere near is friendly to use (or as capable) as chef
<erikh>
ah
<erikh>
familiarity is a strong motivator
<drbrain>
yeah
<erikh>
if it wasn't, we'd probably all be lisp wanks right now
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<yorickpeterse>
erikh: what location (the devops bit)?
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<erikh>
SF
<yorickpeterse>
hmpf
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<yorickpeterse>
Everything is in SF damnit
<wmoxam>
heh
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<manveru>
sucks, eh :(
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<yorickpeterse>
From what I've seen I'd say NL is one of the wurst countries for non Rails Ruby work
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<RickHull>
anyone got any reccomendations for something like visio? i am trying to document/diagram an environment of about 50 servers in about 20 different roles
<RickHull>
i just need basic boxes, text, and connectors (I figure)
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<zzak>
other than visio?
<matti>
RickHull: OmniGiraffe if you are an OS X junkie ;]
<drbrain>
RickHull: GraphViz? you can use graph.rb to build it
<RickHull>
visio is an option, but it's got way more stuff than i need and actually makes it hard to do what i want
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<RickHull>
drbrain: i don't think automatic layout will work
<drbrain>
RickHull: you can specify layout with dot
<RickHull>
hmm, i've tried to use graphviz for something similar a few years back and gave up fighting it
<RickHull>
i was probably doing it wrong
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<drbrain>
you can make tree-like graphs by providing ranks and whatnot