00:56 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:42738] nobu:r54811 (trunk): win32/win32.c: remove unnecessary declaration - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=42738

00:56 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:42737] svn:r54812 (trunk): * 2016-04-29 - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=42737

10:52 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:42739] hsbt:r54813 (trunk): * doc/maintainers.rdoc: Removed Ruby 1.8 entries. It's not necessary to - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=42739

10:53 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:42740] hsbt:r54814 (trunk): * doc/maintainers.rdoc: Removed deprecated entries. These are already deleted. - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=42740

11:12 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:42741] usa:r54815 (ruby_2_2): merge revision(s) 54706: - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=42741

11:21 <travis-ci> The build is still failing. by @usa: See https://travis-ci.org/ruby/ruby/builds/126625906

11:43 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:42742] hsbt:r54816 (trunk): * doc/maintainers.rdoc: Update latest maintainers list on Ruby 2.4 - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=42742

12:03 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:42743] hsbt:r54817 (trunk): * gems/bundled_gems: Update latest gems, test-unit-3.1.8 and rake-11.1.2. - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=42743

12:18 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:42744] usa:r54818 (trunk): * doc/maintainers.rdoc (ext/win32): of course, it's still maintained. [skip ci] - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=42744

13:40 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:42745] nobu:r54819 (trunk): maintainers.rdoc: update ext/io/nonblock [ci skip] - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=42745

14:42 <zzak> [Charlie, irc.freenode.net] benzrf: i believe the problem is that by default popen only opens in "read" mode, meaning it only hijacks the stdout from the child process, not stdin

14:43 <zzak> [Charlie, irc.freenode.net] benzrf: this fixes the problem for me: ruby -e 'puts IO.popen("cat", "r+").read'

14:44 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] ah, useful

14:46 <zzak> [Charlie, irc.freenode.net] that opens both stdin and stdout of the process

14:46 <zzak> [Charlie, irc.freenode.net] you'll likely then want to use close_write at some point

14:54 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] kk

15:23 <zzak> [Alexander von Gluck, irc.freenode.net] Q: I'm making a gem to interface with a rest API and turn the results into objects (Think ActiveRecord-like). I just can't figure out a great way to store something at the module level for the Gem... any ideas? I wrote an example gist: https://gist.github.com/avongluck-r1soft/4500a2279f9fc41be0ca698a2284bfa1

15:24 <zzak> [Alexander von Gluck, irc.freenode.net] I want to make a new instance of my gem and set the REST uri at the module level... if that makes sense :-|

15:24 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] kallisti5: use a constant

15:24 <zzak> [Alexander von Gluck, irc.freenode.net] Right now i'm "CATApi::Breed.all"

15:24 <zzak> [Alexander von Gluck, irc.freenode.net] googles

15:25 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] kallisti5: when you set "@uri =" in the module block, you're setting one of the *module*'s instance variables

15:25 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] so of course it won't be visible in the method

15:25 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] constants, however, are scoped semi-lexically

15:25 <zzak> [Alexander von Gluck, irc.freenode.net] benzrf: is there a way users can define the constant though?

15:25 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] oh, you want users to be able to supply it

15:25 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] why not make your thing a class, and then the url is an instance variable?

15:26 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] (barring that, i *guess* you could do "class << self; attr_accessor :uri; end" in the module)

15:26 <zzak> [Alexander von Gluck, irc.freenode.net] oh.. so pretty much turn the CATAPi module into a class?

15:27 <zzak> [Alexander von Gluck, irc.freenode.net] That seems to make more sense... I just thought Gem's almost always worked out of modules :-|

15:27 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] kallisti5: well, they do tend to

15:27 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] you can put the class in a module, if you want :)

15:28 <zzak> [Alexander von Gluck, irc.freenode.net] lol what's the best practice there? module CATApi -> class CATApi -> class Breed ?

15:28 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] kallisti5: well, here's a good rule of thumb

15:29 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] kallisti5: if you're making something a class, you should be able to coherently explain "what" an instance of the class is, and in what circumstances you would instantiate it

15:30 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] if you're really only defining the class for the features of classes that don't involve instances, you should be making a module

15:30 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] also, i think it's unusual to nest a class inside another class - normally you nest modules like directories, and then classes are leaves, like files

15:31 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] i might be wrong.

15:31 <zzak> [ben z rf, irc.freenode.net] (er, modules can also be leaves)

15:32 <zzak> [purple, irc.freenode.net] can i unzip NUGET package using Ruby ZIP ?