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13:49 <zzak> [n1colas, irc.freenode.net] o/

14:25 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] I am making an CSV file by following the instructions https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/8aa691ab5146447aebaf61015937a73a . I am confused by 'Quote Character' and 'Quote Escape'. How should I mention it?

15:19 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] any opinion ?

15:31 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] arup_r: The quote char and its escape char are part of the CSV RFC, I wouldn't mention it. Neither which line ending to use, the CSV lib should work with any. If not, I'd auto-detect that.

15:32 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] Yes, Papierkorb. Thanks.. I was reading the Ruby CSV lib. And seems the recommendations they gave to me is the standard. So need to mention explicitly.

15:33 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] *no need

15:33 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] arup_r: I'll just guess that people who're putting orders into that system have no clue what a "line ending" even is, less so what line feeds are and "what's that .. 0x0A binary thing even supposed to mean? Better call helpdesk"

15:34 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] ok.

15:34 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] arup_r: regarding UTF-8, that's a tricky one. MS Excel for example still doesn't use UTF-8 by default. Users have to select it manually, and often forget to do so

15:35 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] But, I mentioned it explicitly. I hope the who ever will read the CSV from their side will be having the same instructions,.. I will just create CSV and upload them to FTP server

15:35 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] I hope whoever**

15:35 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] arup_r: Either insist on UTF-8 for now, or use some kind of auto detection (Not many encodings to try), or just have a checkbox the user can click on when uploading saying "MS-Excel exported file" or similar

15:36 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] Papierkorb: how to use auto detection?

15:36 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] arup_r: Who is the user? Someone technical? Some MS excel guy from sales or some secretary?

15:36 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] yes sales team

15:36 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] arup_r: I've never done encoding auto detection in Ruby yet, sorry.

15:36 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] ok, np

15:37 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] I think the easiest "fix" would be having a checkbox the user clicks when it's UTF-8. Else, expect the CSV to contain the windows-12xx encoding.

15:38 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] I think that's what we did with something similar for the start

15:39 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] arup_r: something else, consider adding a random part to the path if you just put it into public/ without any ACL in front of it. Else, people can just enumerate over it to grab CSV files, worse, if two requests come in at the same time, they may override each other

15:40 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] arup_r: something like "tagg_#{Time.now.to_i}_#{rand 1..1_000_000}.csv" should be okay-ish. The real fix would be doing a permission check on download ;)

15:41 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] Papierkorb: 1 min.

15:43 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] Idea is I will pull data from DB, then store them into a public folder. And then FTP program will upload the file to FTP server, and delete from rails. Here is the code till now. I am working on the exception handling part. https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/8aa691ab5146447aebaf61015937a73a . But your file name genration Idea i liked. I am going to do it like that.

15:44 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] arup_r: Then do NOT use the public/ folder if you don't want to have it accessible through HTTP

15:44 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] oh, yes if exception occurs, my slack program will notify them.

15:44 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] Ok then where to put these?

15:45 <zzak> [PapierKorb, irc.freenode.net] Anywhere you like. Create a new directory for it if there's nothing matching. Maybe a sub-directory in tmp/

15:46 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] this is to debug, I will remove them :) https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/8aa691ab5146447aebaf61015937a73a#file-newordersuploader-rb-L29-L30

15:46 <zzak> [arup_r, irc.freenode.net] ok