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<wpwrak>
whitequark: btw, would be nice to have a shortcut for editing group names from the list of groups, without having to select the group, edit there, then return
<wpwrak>
hmm .. no autosave before the first "save as" ? just crashed on me :(
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<wpwrak>
whitequark: now, a very simple problem: i want to make a box for a display. i start with the sides: i draw the module rectanglt (as construction), then with a little offset the inside of the side walls, and with another offset their outside. extrude, all fine.
<wpwrak>
next, the top. there i put a workplane on the top of the walls, make one rectangle, extrude, set thickness. couldn't be easier.
<wpwrak>
now, the window opening. for this i go back to the sketch with the walls since they have the geometry of the actual display. i add a new workplane on top, then construct a suitable rectangle, and extrude.
<wpwrak>
now, first problem: this should have the same thickness as the top, but when i select the top so that i can select its thickness, "home" disappears, so i can't go back to the group of the extruded window.
<wpwrak>
(i need to go to the group of the extruded window since part of the edges that define the thickness is hidden inside the top, and if i try to set a length (thickness) on what is visible, i just get a REF, if i set an equivalence, (of course) an error
<wpwrak>
)
<wpwrak>
but okay, i can just set the length independently and slvs is happy. but then comes the real problem: when i set the window to "difference", nothing happens.
<wpwrak>
i guess slvs applies the "difference" to the "parent", i.e., the side walls, which already have a big hole there, but not the whole model ?
<whitequark>
wpwrak: (shortcut for editing group names) ehhh... seems like too much clutter on the main display to me
<whitequark>
(no autosave before 1st save as) indeed
<whitequark>
what was the crash?
<whitequark>
(bothersome critter) I see a few issues
<whitequark>
in g002, you don't have a closed contour
<whitequark>
so the extrusion in g003 fails
<whitequark>
the second issue is that you've put g006 after g003, this happens if you have created g006 after g003 was active
<whitequark>
erm, s/after/when/ s/was/is/
<whitequark>
so the order of booleans is "extrude walls" "remove the window" (from empty space) "extrude top"
<wpwrak>
(crash) i think that was when i was adding a point to the "window" sketch. quite unexpected. alas, didn't record the traceback, and it hasn't happened again.
<whitequark>
wpwrak: I think I know what the crash was, pull from master
<wpwrak>
(g002) oh strange. thought it had worked. maybe it did before the crash, then failed in the 2nd try, but i didn't even pay attention. fixed, thanks !
<whitequark>
anyway, the way you can fix this is by deleting g006 and activating g005 before creating it
<whitequark>
so that you have something to subtract from
<wpwrak>
the the order, i needed to select g003 to anchor the workplane, since i need the geometry from g003, not g004
<whitequark>
huh? how so?
<wpwrak>
err no ...
<wpwrak>
not g005 i mean
<whitequark>
that still doesn't make sense
<whitequark>
all of the geometry from g003 is present when g005 is selected
<whitequark>
if you are having a hard time *selecting* it with a mouse, remove the "shown" check, "show solid model" and/or activate "draw invisible lines"
<wpwrak>
not the inner wall or the construction rectangle on the inside
<strawberyargon>
the little lcd display will have numbers on it
<strawberyargon>
including a time remaining...
<strawberyargon>
hmm
<strawberyargon>
the numbers wont be changing when its not in use
<strawberyargon>
i need to take as carry on due to the battery. the box was ment to make it safer/"more professional". while i was at it i added extras on top of the little battery capacity monitor, hench time remaining
<whitequark>
next time I'm gonna try to memorize the positions of xray-opaque stuff in my luggage and read the xray *without* looking at the display, just for kicks
<strawberyargon>
its easier to take batts i thought it there part of packed with gear
<strawberyargon>
heh
<strawberyargon>
better print out the datasheet for the batt....
<whitequark>
strawberyargon: anyway i count uk in the same "police state" category as the us
<strawberyargon>
if they dont allow the box on carry on can i put in my luguage or would it be too late by then? first time doing airtravel
<wpwrak>
that's too late then. though they can just take things they simply don't want you to use during flight, and lock them up somewhere.
<strawberyargon>
aww had hope to use to it to extent laptop batt life :)
<whitequark>
wpwrak: really? I've never seen that
<strawberyargon>
hehe
<strawberyargon>
idk if there a socket on the plane?
<wpwrak>
whitequark: i had it happen 1.5 times with insulin pens. those with the deadly 8 mm x a few microns needles. security found it, and handed it to the cabin crew, so that they could let me use it when i needed it for a meal, but would keep it at a safe place otherwise. so much the theory. of course, as soon as the door was closed, they brought me my pen.
<whitequark>
wpwrak: oh, it happened with a necessary medical item. that's a different question.
<wpwrak>
the 0.5 was similar, but there the purser handed me the pen right when security delivered it. the lady was clearly upset by that flagrant disregard of security, but he just shrugged ;-)
<whitequark>
strawberyargon: which plane
<whitequark>
wpwrak: lol
<strawberyargon>
thomas cook airlines, ryianair maybe or monarch
<strawberyargon>
whitequark, ^
<whitequark>
wpwrak: which *plane*
<whitequark>
not which *airline*
<wpwrak>
dunno ;-)
<whitequark>
er, s/wpwrak/strawberyargon.
<strawberyargon>
plane? idk
<strawberyargon>
not bookedf
<whitequark>
you can look that up if you know the flight number
<DocScrutinizer05>
strawberyargon: not heard about talos, but the text there is pretty nice (first paragraph I read), and it explains excellently why Neo900 is needed
<strawberyargon>
aww i should have posted a link here sooner...
<strawberyargon>
sigh...
<strawberyargon>
know anyone how might have pledged?
<strawberyargon>
how=who
<strawberyargon>
just wondering
<strawberyargon>
DocScrutinizer05, neo900, dont need proprietary stuff to record video from camera/encode?
<strawberyargon>
i think so...
<strawberyargon>
just wonding about alt to buying non-free action cam. with a diy computer + camera module/interface how hard it would be to get something... but then its gona be so bulky.... and by the time one was spent xxx on it such a project i guess one could have got a neo900 or at lest paid for part of one :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
strawberyargon: no, neo900 can record from camera using FOSS, I think
<strawberyargon>
great :D
<strawberyargon>
hmm done much with solar DocScrutinizer05 ?
<DocScrutinizer05>
not really
<DocScrutinizer05>
then, there's not that much different solar things you could possibly do
<DocScrutinizer05>
unless I misunderstood "solar" (PV and heating)
<strawberyargon>
seeking advice on CIGS panels and where to get them. how risky might a experimental, development flexible pannel be? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152364018330?_mwBanner=1 if you have any ideas that is
<DocScrutinizer05>
anyway afaik the major source of problems/failures in flexible stuff are the electrodes which break or come loose
<DocScrutinizer05>
to be more precise: had been, several years ago
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<strawberyargon>
CIGS are really good. they still work well in low light conditions unlike mono-crystalline
<strawberyargon>
apparently there robust.
<DocScrutinizer05>
#define robust
<DocScrutinizer05>
sure, you could fire a whole peacemaker empty into one and odds are it works just like before with all those holes, but too often bended or with too narrow radious, and the electrode stuff came off or at least cracked, back when electrodes had significant layer thickness
<DocScrutinizer05>
radius*
<DocScrutinizer05>
btw all the same problem like e.g. with flexible OLED displays