14:08 <wpwrak> sigh. sometimes i wish back the good old times where a man would slay a dragon or, if unavailable, a lion, to prove his worth.

14:08 <wpwrak> but then ARM came and invented their debug interface ...

18:50 <DocScrutinizer05> huh?

18:50 <DocScrutinizer05> what's wrong with ARMs debug interface? (except of the nasty 300$ cables you need to attach Lauterbach to it)

19:00 <wpwrak> the complexity. it's orders of magnitude more complex than anything else i've seen in that area. you have a complex chain of subsystems, several protocol layers (though not described as such), each with its own failure and reporting modes. and so on.

19:01 <wpwrak> arm's documentation also doesn't lead you straight to the solution. it rather stops at a polite distance from the next territory, makes some vague allusions of what you may want to look for over there, then go away and leave you alone.

19:01 <wpwrak> furthermore, none of the stuff is really up to date or applicable. so you need to find out what the concept evolved to on your own.

19:02 <wpwrak> then you get the vendor side ...

19:29 <eintopf> hola