Topic for #qi-hardware is now Copyleft hardware - http://qi-hardware.com | hardware hackers join here to discuss Ben NanoNote, atben / atusb 802.15.4 wireless, and other community driven hw projects | public logging at http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs
LunaVorax has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
woakas has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
freespace has left #qi-hardware [#qi-hardware]
nikescar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
<wolfspraul>
25 pages, but the usual solid quality from TSMC...
Guest28076 has quit [Quit: Leaving]
ChanServ has quit [*.net *.split]
rejon has joined #qi-hardware
ChanServ has joined #qi-hardware
infobot has joined #qi-hardware
heberth has joined #qi-hardware
heberth has quit [Quit: leaving]
emeb has joined #qi-hardware
mog has quit [Excess Flood]
mog has joined #qi-hardware
mog has quit [Changing host]
mog has joined #qi-hardware
emeb has left #qi-hardware [#qi-hardware]
xwalk has joined #qi-hardware
kilae has joined #qi-hardware
xwalk has quit [Quit: Leaving]
jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware
panda|x201 has joined #qi-hardware
kristoffer has joined #qi-hardware
Openfree` has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
Openfree` has joined #qi-hardware
Openfree` has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
<larsc>
wpwrak: or the economical crisis has hit people from the qi-hardware community so hard that they can't afford internet access anymore.
<wpwrak>
larsc: i thought of that, but then we would have heard them first complain about lack of food. i mean, you can go a few days or even weeks without eating, but without internet ? quite impossible. so they'd give up food first.
panda|x201 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
<larsc>
:)
* larsc
complains about the lack of coffee and gets up to get some
wolfspraul has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
<kyak>
yeah, i liked werner's twist in that e-mail :)
<whitequark>
sigh
<whitequark>
someone on a russian mailing list complains that Xburst1 CPU is slower than a P6 one
<whitequark>
yeah, like, really. Xburst is a single-issue MIPS32 CPU without any L2 cache whatsoever, and P6 is superscalar, out-of-order microarch with speculative execution and huge fucking L2 cache
<whitequark>
of course it is way faster.
Ayla has joined #qi-hardware
wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware
<wpwrak>
whitequark: congratulate him on his research and encourage him to implement his conclusion, i.e., use a P6 ;-)
Openfree` has joined #qi-hardware
<whitequark>
wpwrak: nope, it was MY research
<whitequark>
he is supposedly too stupid to open up Wikipedia, much less to, like, think with his brain.
<whitequark>
and yes, already did
<wpwrak>
well, his discovery then :)
* whitequark
sometimes hates everyone
<wpwrak>
who would have thought ;-)
ChanServ has quit [*.net *.split]
Openfree` has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
wolfspraul has quit [*.net *.split]
Ayla has quit [*.net *.split]
jekhor_ has quit [*.net *.split]
dandon has quit [*.net *.split]
wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware
Ayla has joined #qi-hardware
jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware
dandon has joined #qi-hardware
rozzin has joined #qi-hardware
ChanServ has joined #qi-hardware
<kyak>
overreacting is almost as bad as stupid e-mails :)
LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware
LunaVorax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
kuribas has joined #qi-hardware
kuribas has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
<wpwrak>
says that umtrx does 375 MHz - 4 GHz. if that's really what they mean. (and not just the specs of one part of many in the chain)
<wpwrak>
seems bulky, though
<wpwrak>
larsc: and yours needs a fair bit of extra hw, too
<larsc>
one bit to be exactly ;)
<larsc>
It is a modular solution, you have to have a FMC host board, but you can choose the host board according to your requirements
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: rtl-sdr can still go/hack to 2.2Ghz.. but i think you lost gain a lot
<wpwrak>
larsc: yeah, but in the end you're probably in the USRP price range (~USD 2k for box plus RF board)
<wpwrak>
kristianpaul: for the "2.4 GHz" band, you still need 350 MHz more ...
<wpwrak>
well, or at least 300 MHZ, depending on which bits you're after
<kristianpaul>
damn, i'm the only receiving a excessive bounces accoutn disabled from qi mailman?..
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: i'm after my rc plane remote control :)
<wpwrak>
never had that :)
kuribas has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
<kristianpaul>
hmm i had lost 3 weeks mails..
<kristianpaul>
damn
<larsc>
wpwrak: yea, as I said not really low-cost. But I think there will be a bundle of FMCOMMS + ZYNQ baseboard for about 1k USD soon
GNUtoo has joined #qi-hardware
GNUtoo has quit [Client Quit]
jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware
Jurting has joined #qi-hardware
Hoolxi has joined #qi-hardware
DocScrutinizer05 has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
DocScrutinizer05 has joined #qi-hardware
DocScrutinizer has quit [Disconnected by services]
DocScrutinizer has joined #qi-hardware
<wpwrak>
larsc: USD 1k sounds nice. you'd beat the USRP+SBX at that price point and you have more bandwidth.
<larsc>
and we even have video out on the board
<wpwrak>
grmbl. and now i need to figure out how to mill a piece of plastic from both sides. capacitative touch sensors are finicky. the price to pay for low BOM cost and no mechanical wear ...
<viric>
we have a bitscope oscilloscope here... it works enough for our needs, and it felt like helping those who provide schematics.
<wpwrak>
larsc: i wish more companies would see it like this. especially in the aforementioned sectors.
<wpwrak>
btw, speaking of socs, i hear that allwinner is very liked in certain open source circles. yes they don't seem to have any public data sheets for their chips. does anyone know more ?
<wpwrak>
e.g., was i just too stupid to find them ? are there there but in chinese ? have they been "leaked" and everyone has a copy but not officially ? or did i just get all this wrong ?
<kristianpaul>
gnuradio blocks should be sinthesized on the fpga as well
Hoolxi has joined #qi-hardware
emeb has joined #qi-hardware
Hoolxi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
emeb has left #qi-hardware [#qi-hardware]
scientes has joined #qi-hardware
xwalk has joined #qi-hardware
xwalk_ has joined #qi-hardware
pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware
emeb has joined #qi-hardware
jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware
GNUtoo has quit [Quit: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.]
emeb has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
emeb has joined #qi-hardware
kilae has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]]
jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
guanucoluis has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
Jurting has quit [Quit: Leaving]
kristoffer has quit [Quit: Leaving]
wej has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
wej has joined #qi-hardware
Hoolxi has joined #qi-hardware
<wolfspraul>
ahh :-)
<wolfspraul>
is that real? they force lars to add a small but significant extra line into the middle of an otherwise unsuspicious 'bsd style' license?
<wolfspraul>
"Use of the software either in source or binary form, must be run on or directly connected to an Analog Devices Inc. component"
Ayla has quit [Quit: dodo]
<wolfspraul>
good morning everybody
<wolfspraul>
and that's for a 1500 line sample app
DocScrutinizer05 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<pabs3>
weird requirement
DocScrutinizer05 has joined #qi-hardware
<wolfspraul>
not too unusual, it's just sad to see the entire circumstances with this being a small sample app, certainly this extra line was not lars idea, analog does not gain anything from it, etc.
<wolfspraul>
free software obviously would have gone nowhere if everybody who managed to hack up a 1500 line sample app would have also spend the time to think about extra clauses like this one to make 'their' thing special and keep it connected to 'their' stuff
<wolfspraul>
so then :-) it's probably still best for lars to not waste his time in turn to 'convinve' anybody inside analog, better just ignore and keep working
<wolfspraul>
convince
<wolfspraul>
but naturally this piece of coding is trapware
* pabs3
misses some context
<wolfspraul>
piece of code, arg
<wolfspraul>
the oscilloscope stuff lars published
<wolfspraul>
great to see him publish on analog.com now :-)