<wpwrak>
rejon: ah, here's one upper bound for the resolution: the maximum MMC block size is 2048 bytes. so a line couldn't be larger than this many samples/pixels. of course, the real limit may be much lower ...
<rejon>
aha
<rjeffries_>
MMC association closed up shop and merged into JDECÂ Â http://www.mmca.org/
<wpwrak>
rjeffries_: yup
<wpwrak>
rjeffries_: you can still get the docs, though
<wpwrak>
rjeffries_: they make you "register", but they don't require a valid e-mail address
<rjeffries_>
cool beans
<rjeffries_>
your right angle connector for connecting a scope (or anything else) to UBB looks useful
<wpwrak>
rjeffries_: yeah, i'm already putting it to use :)
<qi-bot>
[commit] nbd: ath9k: remove the signal strength fix, it causes a lot of confusion and seems to be just as inaccurate as the original version of the code http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/0318dc0
<wpwrak>
"This is why we haven’t published papers or dissertations to wrap up the research projects that we have worked with."  keeping a rather low profile, are we ? :)
<akiwiguy>
Hello.
<xiangfu>
akiwiguy: hi
<akiwiguy>
Hi xiangfu
<xiangfu>
akiwiguy: Hi
<xiangfu>
akiwiguy: I have to reboot my system. back online later. :)
<kyak>
o hi David
<kyak>
i'm trying to build the latest MPlayer
<kyak>
when ffmpeg checkout, i have this error: fatal: reference is not a tree: 3d462373f8e8fa58b697a9b2d93a5edf70841937
<dvdk>
kyak: any ideas how to prevent such a thing in the future?
<dvdk>
kyak: the tgz you downloaded is exactly from my openwrt/dl directory, so 100% matches my config
<kyak>
dvdk: i'm not sure that such things happen very often to worry about it..
<dvdk>
kyak: well from the sample we have, it happens 1 out of 2 times :)
<kyak>
i'm not a git superuser at all, i found this explanation:
<kyak>
"Oops, someone made a super-project commit that refers to an unpublished commit in the submodule sub"
<dvdk>
kyak: already gave up on comprehinding git :)
<kyak>
so we need to pick another commit :)
<dvdk>
kyak: feel free to search one that actually works :)
<dvdk>
s/works/still works
<dvdk>
wolfspraul: look who joins the google-webm cross licensing: MIPs Technologies (see link above)
<kyak>
is it a fair assumption that the latest one shoudl work?
<dvdk>
kyak: the one i used, was the latest one from maybe saturday.  so just try.
<kyak>
dvdk: anyway, the build of mplayer from your sources has just finished successfully
<dvdk>
i.e. "yes"
<dvdk>
kyak: makefile still missing code to add back proprietary codecs when build_patented set.
<dvdk>
hope you're not disappointed
<dvdk>
also i removed mpeg1 support, mayb can add that back, since too old for patents.
<kyak>
dvdk: is OK for me as long as your driver works find and ogg is playable
<dvdk>
kyak: ok.  btw without the ffmpeg ogg demuxer, it only uses libtheora (not fftheora).  with libtheora some high-detail scenes jerk at 320x240, 25fps.
<dvdk>
kyak: so you might also want to try webm (seems to work, just the encoder is slower and not as well-tuned as ffmpeg2theora)
<dvdk>
maybe recompiling libtheora with -O2 might help.  dunno
<kyak>
ok.. are you using the same settings for ffmpeg2theora as you described in your e-mail? or something has changed?
<dvdk>
kyak: wrote two emails. first try was 256x144 with upscaling, which shouldn't be a problem, even at 30fps.
<dvdk>
however 320x176 may jerk, at least at 30fps.
<dvdk>
kyak: no , nothing has changed.  just that i did some more encodes with diffferent materials for testing over the last days.
<wolfspraul>
it doesn't help much specifically (legally), but it builds up a certain 'counterforce'
<wolfspraul>
always good
<wolfspraul>
they got some nice partners too, like LG and Samsung
<dvdk>
wolfspraul: not sure whether they can use it for counter-suing.  nothing about that in there agreement.
<wolfspraul>
just watch out - this kind of deal only means that those companies cross-license to each other :-)
<wolfspraul>
oh no
<wolfspraul>
the typical patent troll totally doesn't care about this
<wolfspraul>
neither will mpeg la
<wolfspraul>
but it's good for the press and general audience
<wolfspraul>
"lots of big companies - must be good"
<wolfspraul>
that kind of thing
<wolfspraul>
I'm glad they do it, otherwise the other side has their loudspeakers on all the time...
<dvdk>
wolfspraul: even MIPS Inc joined the party.
<dvdk>
wolfspraul: well, they could turn webm-ccl into a pantent-pool for h264 :)Â Â every licensee would have to promise never suing against webm users :)
<kyak>
dvdk: ok, great.. i hope i have some time to do some testing in next few days :)
<wpwrak>
roh: hmm, i have to leave joker.com ... is godaddy.com an acceptable domain registrar ? (just for almesberger.net)
<roh>
wpwrak: eeh.. dunno. i never bought domains that way
<roh>
i always told somebody and ever few years they ask some decent for money
<roh>
eh.. the for needs to shl 2 words
<wpwrak>
roh: heh, outsourcing is nice ;-) ah well, i guess i'll just try my luck
<roh>
godaddy isnt good i hear... troublesome to get domains back when they got them
<akiwiguy>
Godaddy sucks.
<roh>
wpwrak: my expert says: 'stay at joker.com'
<wpwrak>
roh: almesberger.net is about to expire and renewal by credit card requires "verified by visa" or the mastercard equivalent. alternatively, i could wire the money, but for this, i'd have to register as a reseller, which adds even more bureaucracy
<roh>
i see. and you got no cc?
<wpwrak>
roh: i have visa and mastercard, but i don't want those extra verifications. because once you agree to them, a lot of online transactions get more complicated/unreliable, and the contract terms are changed as well
<roh>
wpwrak: how much time is left? maybe you can find somebody with a cc in europe to do the payment for you
<akiwiguy>
roh: Whats wrong with that?
<roh>
akiwiguy: dark side ;)
<wpwrak>
roh: about three weeks left
<roh>
wpwrak: i see.. maybe gismo can help. i think he got some cc
<roh>
i dont
<wpwrak>
roh: (payment via proxy) seems rather convoluted :) naw, i'll just take my business somewhere where they're not so difficult
<roh>
wpwrak: its a generic problem.
<wpwrak>
roh: it's the first relevant placed i've seen that doesn't offer sensible payment options. normally, you just pay with your cc with no further ado.
<wpwrak>
s/placed/place/
<roh>
wpwrak: cc billing for non-eu/us customers is hell.
<roh>
i can tell you that for sure after living through it with om
<roh>
SEPA rules btw
<wpwrak>
roh: dunno. never had trouble so far. worst case, they ask you to e-mail a photo of your passport.
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: i see that you're using enom.com. are you happy with them ?
<wpwrak>
enom.com looks reasonably clean. good faq. no cheesy stuff like "domain auctions". well, they have "premium domains", so they're in the squatter biz, too
<wpwrak>
roh: (cc for non-eu/us) most of the weird things are connected to the issuing bank, not the card holder's country of residence. so with my swiss-issued cards, i have no trouble, where the argentina-issued one is basically useless abroad. both have exactly the same owner information.
<wpwrak>
roh: ironically, the cards from .ch are even less trouble inside argentina (here, they very often require shops to call in to verify a transaction. but they never do this with my foreign cards)
<wolfspraul>
wpwrak: enom is fine, but I have no moral standards, I think that industry stinks
<wolfspraul>
I find them expensive
<wolfspraul>
and yes they do lots of cheesy things, like everybody else
<wolfspraul>
I was seriously thinking sometimes about advertising IP addresses instead ;-)
<wolfspraul>
but maybe that's a bit too radical...
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: (ip addr) ;-))) may get tricky with e-mail
<kristianpaul>
hey no,  advertising IP addresses is not a bad idea if you consider that from ipv6 you may get some sense ip number to remenber easilly ;)
<kristianpaul>
hmm email
<kristianpaul>
hash based email ;)
<kristianpaul>
i like that indea from the i2p network
<kristianpaul>
s/indea/idea
<kristianpaul>
what gell this does?  :(){ :|: & };:
<kristianpaul>
s/gell/hell
<larsc>
kristianpaul: forkbomb
<larsc>
declares a function namend ":" which calles itself twice
<kristianpaul>
ouch
<kristianpaul>
i tought the : was a null character
<kristianpaul>
what the ; for?
<kristianpaul>
ah, just to close the brackets..
<kristianpaul>
he, anywya
<xiangfu>
kristianpaul: larsc make my system, as you see, I have to reboot.
<xiangfu>
make my system freeze
<xiangfu>
:)
<kristianpaul>
;)
<kristianpaul>
ah wikipedia have an article about it.nice
<larsc>
you can do all sorts of smiley-bombs :-() {:-| :-} ;-|
<wpwrak>
kristianpaul: how sweet, a fork-bomb. didn't think you could redefine ":"
<kristianpaul>
me either
<wpwrak>
larsc: that one may actually be recoverable, since it's linear
<kristianpaul>
what other special chars can be redefined..
<wpwrak>
= too ;-)
<larsc>
is : a special char in shell?
<kristianpaul>
dunno, is it?
<kristianpaul>
i just tought it was
<wpwrak>
larsc: not in a function name, only in a variable name
<larsc>
have upyou ever used it when writing shell scripts?
<kristianpaul>
not me..
<wpwrak>
here's a nice one (safe to use):Â Â 2+2() { echo 5; }
<wpwrak>
larsc: yes, the single : yes. but never thought of redefining it.
<kristianpaul>
hmm zsh may protect me :)
<wpwrak>
larsc: makes sense, though. after all, you can also have things line  git-commit  but not  foo-bar=2
<larsc>
ah... : is a nop
<larsc>
but well, you can alias other commands as well
<wpwrak>
grmbl. need to remount / ...
<kristianpaul>
nop, yeah, at first it tought it was so inoffensive
<wpwrak>
GRRR
<wpwrak>
file system still broken
<Fusin>
:)
<rjeffries>
wpwrak I have used godaddy to register domains, never had an issue
<mth>
whitequark: it seems the autotools support in jzboot in the qi-hardware repository is incomplete
<mth>
automake refuses to process Makefile.am since there is no conifgure.ac
<mth>
or configure.in, I always forget what is the old name and what is the new one
<xMff>
.in is old
<xMff>
.ac is new
<wpwrak>
rejon: if looking for consortia, maybe also consider CELF
<rejon>
do you know anyone at CELF?
<rejon>
any intros appreciated
<Jay7>
rejon: Tim Bird
<rejon>
ok
<rejon>
please email me intro
<rejon>
jon@sharism.cc
<Jay7>
rejon: what do you need there?
<Jay7>
and for your info, CELF is merged with LF
<wpwrak>
Jay7: oh, i didn't know of this merger
<Jay7>
Richard Purdie may be right person to contact too
<Jay7>
he is LF Fellow now
<rejon>
ok, great
<rejon>
lets get some more people involved in what we doing is the goal