<tuxbrain>
wpwrak: I have 3 possible recruits for the RF analisys from the guifi.net project , two of them (the less "affordable" due are really busy guys) have equipment and whatever else needed to perform certifications, the other one is more easy to reach can't perform certification but has equipment and skills to do obtain reliable results , I will try to meet him next week to do some testing of the tests,  with the prototypes, so is time to think how we go
<tuxbrain>
nna do that due it will be similar to put an 4 years old child in front of the commands of a Boing 747
<tuxbrain>
of course the 4 years old dude is me
<kyak>
xiangfu: yep, i'm watching it :) would be great to adapt the reflash_ben.sh commands to jzboot. It still makes we wondering
<xiangfu>
which target images you using?
<xiangfu>
xburst_target1.bin xburst_target2.bin or the jzboot's firmware?
<xiangfu>
kyak: I think the ingenic's target image not working under software usbboot mode.
<whitequark>
kyak: have you tried jzboot with ben?
<kyak>
whitequark: started it and saw it recoginze the chip, nothing more
<kyak>
whitequark: i mean, i did nothing more than that
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain: (guifi) excellent ! yes, the one with basic equipment will probable be more than enough for the production testing. but it's good that you also found people who can do certification. that will be
<wpwrak>
very valuable in the future
<whitequark>
kyak: can you start it with parameters -C config/boot.cfg and post the debug log (-d4) to pastebin?
<kyak>
whitequark: ./jzboot/src/jzboot -C config/boot.cfg -d4 would output usage
<whitequark>
kyak: looks like the firmware is wrong (probably). can you compile stage1&2 from xburst-tools (the usual way) and place them into jzboot/firmware/ instead of existing ones?
<kyak>
xburst_stage1.bin  xburst_stage2.bin, right?
<jesperj>
no way that I will use some totally unknown phone from some small China company that almost doesn't seem to exist without checking it for backdoors etc, and besides that I'd like to replace the firmware / OS with open source stuff that I can modify
<whitequark>
jesperj: there is no such thing as generic 'GSM modem firmware' at all. you'll need different firmwares for each particular modem (not even talking about calibration data)
<whitequark>
moreover, due to GSM being very closed and unfriendly, and requiring a lot of NDAs and certifications, there is AFAIK no open-sourced GSM firmwares at all
<whitequark>
at least ones that can work in a real phone
<jesperj>
oh.. hm... yeah maybe... Could that flat cable really be a problem for a chip like that though? It shouldn't be a matter of "physical" harm if so, more like some interference or something if it gets too close?
<roh>
it has 2 sim slots.. so i guess its some mediatek based design.
<roh>
jesperj: no clue. my guess is just mechanical fitting.. so it doesnt matter much. if you really want to reverse it, buy a second one. one will die.
<jesperj>
or hmm... actually it could be that the back cable on the right is supposed to rest between the silicon on that chip and the stuff that pressed against it
<jesperj>
in the assembly
<jesperj>
(I think the black cable is for the antenna)
<roh>
could be some antenna. dunno what. bluetooth? wifi? for gsm its too short
<jesperj>
well it has bluetooth but not wifi
<jesperj>
I got this phone as a gift
<jesperj>
and the first thing I do is taking it apart O_O
<jesperj>
I'll feel bad if it won't work when I put it together heh
<jesperj>
but I need to know what kind of phone I am playing with
<jesperj>
and what I can do with it
<roh>
i think if the silicone does have any function you could replace it with a drop of hot-glue later
<jesperj>
yeah
<jesperj>
true
<jesperj>
what about the metal cover to the left?
<jesperj>
can one open those without destroying things?
<jesperj>
are those there for cooling or just for keeping curious ppl like me from looking at what is under? :)
<jesperj>
wpwrak: if you get curious I can repost to imagebin or something
<wpwrak>
jesperj: (metal cover) if it's an RF shield (> 10 x 10 mm2, about 2 mm thick), then there are components underneath. and it may be designed such that you can't remove it without destroying it.
<wpwrak>
jesperj: yes, the "can" is a shield. can't quite see if it's removable or not. probably removable.
<wpwrak>
jesperj: what's the thing on the flat cable ? is seems to rest on the chip with the "bird dropping". so that looks indeed like some silicone buffer. you can probably lift it off with a knife with only a minimum of residues.
<jesperj>
wpwrak: I'm going to resize and upload some more images of the phone pcb
<jesperj>
I guess you could not see the other ones in the pastebin.com post either then, that were on imageshack
<jesperj>
I need to find some good free image hosting website that stores the images permanently though. flicker perhaps?
<jesperj>
flickr
<wpwrak>
i see only one in the imagebin
<jesperj>
wpwrak: the thing on the flat cable that I am holding with my fingers is the cell phone camera