<qi-bot> [commit] Juan José Díaz Vecchio: Realease Candidate 2, completely new PCB http://qi-hw.com/p/sie-ceimtun/ae70b4b
<qwebirc62733> I have loaded debian onto an sd card and press m when I boot the nanonote and the boot hangs when we get to loading uImage the nanonote can boot jlime off of a 2 gig sd card i have and openwrt from a 4 gig card is it likely that the problem is with the bootloader?
<qwebirc62733> I don't really want to flash the bootloader again because theres lots of stuff installed on the nand that I don't want to mess up
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Sanitize POV-Ray output (in progress) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/286a6bd
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Fix our trigonometry: the z0 inclination is expressed as a tangent, not a sine. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/98b6050
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: All there is in solid.c is about POV-Ray, so rename it to povray.c http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/49ea351
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ben-lcdframe-front-100um is done. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/f37441a
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: In POV-Ray output, move faces to more correct Z locations. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/f0a8bcd
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Moved solidify to a new and more suitable project: cae-tools. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/bec6988
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: add Qi Hardware Inc, Ingenic Semiconductor, to copyright http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/ba64178
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: change the version number to 201007. http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/5f83781
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: for misunderstand the debian rules. I create a [debian] branch for debian package http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/7b710f3
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added project sie-ceimtun. Plus some cleanup. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/31fe9c6
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: update all debian package base on verison numver 201007 http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/fe61707
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: update all debian package base on verison numver 201007 http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/5e6ede1
<Ayla> hi larsc
<Ayla> I got it to work
<larsc> yeay!
<Ayla> unfortunately...
<Ayla> there's still a bug to kill
<Ayla> the suspend will crash if there is an SD card plugged in
<Ayla> if I boot using the NAND, it works fine, I can suspend/resume
<wpwrak> Ayla: congratulations !
<Ayla> lol
<Ayla> thanks
<Ayla> but I changed nothing since yesterday
<Ayla> I just did tests :)
<larsc> do you have set CONFIG_MMC_UNSAFE_RESUME=y in your config?
<Ayla> no
<Ayla> I try this
<Ayla> but it'd be better to have a "safe" resume ;)
<larsc> yes, but it's known to be broken
<larsc> it's fixed in 2.6.36 though
<Ayla> ah, ok
<Ayla> the RTC driver may need another tweak for 2.6.36
<Ayla> on include/linux/interrupt.h there's a new IRQF flag that I noted it'd be interesting for the RTC clock
<Ayla> I don't remember what it is though :)
<larsc> no it is not
<larsc> you mean IRQF_NO_SUSPEND
<Ayla> yes
<Ayla> okay
<Ayla> well I didn't dig it more
<larsc> it's for timers and such
<kyak> will there be a package for suspend?
<Ayla> meh, I can't really test
<Ayla> I'm in the middle of an airport,
<larsc> echo mem > /sys/power/state
<Ayla> with nothing to put in the "reset" hole of my dingoo
<Ayla> so if it crash I'm screwed
<Ayla> (and it probably will)
<kyak> larsc: you mean, one can control suspend via /sys/power/state?
<Ayla> yes
<kyak> i did echo disk > /sys/power/state to suspend to disk
<kyak> but nothing happened
<kyak> and now it's "mem" again in /sys/power/state
<Ayla> why do you want to suspend to disk anyway?
<kyak> how does it work?
<kyak> i'm just trying
<Ayla> suspend to disk is interesting only for PCs, and you must have swap
<Ayla> just type what larsc wrote
<Ayla> 14:46 < larsc> echo mem > /sys/power/state
<kyak> what i really would want it to turn off all power expect for CPU and make CPU sleep
<Ayla> well, it'll be better than that
<Ayla> it'll turn off power for everything including the CPU
<kyak> the screen went white
<kyak> therefore it is powered
<kyak> after echo mem > /sys/power/state
<Ayla> man, why do you think I'm working on this? ;)
<kyak> ok :)
<Ayla> it won't work on yours without changes
<kyak> great
<kyak> very good
<kyak> does it have some "idle timer" to do that automatically?
<Ayla> no, but then you can write your own usespace application that monitor the inputs and set to sleep if needed
<kyak> ah ok
<kyak> Ayla: how does CPU get awaken after input if it sleeping?
<Ayla> magic
<Ayla> :)
<kyak> means that it is still powered
<Ayla> no
<kyak> and monitoring some input
<Ayla> the processor is powered on when it receives an interrupt
<kyak> but it has to be already powered to receive this interrupt
<kyak> but in power-saving mode
<Ayla> man, just go read how a processor work ;)
<Ayla> okay, bbl
<kyak> hm, seems that echo standby > /sys/power/state and echo mem > /sys/power/state afterwards makes it work
<kyak> at least the display is switched off
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ben-bottom-outside2 is done at 1 mm and 500 um resolution. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/b45e536
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: this fix the `uscan --report-status` error http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/70466ee
<Ayla> larsc: with that flag, it works
<Ayla> ... sometimes
<rafa> why somebody invented the "workaround" thing?
<rafa> now I can not live without it :P
<zear> hey rafa, what is the most up to date jlime toolchain?
<rafa> zear: hey.. sorry.. I forgot that.. the latest uploaded is the one you already know.. I have another more complete (with a lot more libs).. if you want that I will upload right now
<zear> if that's not a problem, that would be very welcome :)
<rafa> zear: okey.. let me do that ;)
<rafa> zear: uploading
<rafa> wpwrak: lisandropm is from bahia blanca and he knows the Universidad del Sur. He could know if the Universidad nacional del sur has the lab you need
<lisandropm> wpwrak: we have at least an specturm analyzer in that frequency band and a anechoic chamber
<rafa> wpwrak: no sure if Bahia Blanca is okey for you
<rafa> lisandropm: estara' durmiendo? :)
<wpwrak> hola lisandropm !
<rafa> ha!
<rafa> no :D
<lisandropm> what I have to check is if the analyzer fullfils th requirements and if the chamber is finished (it is built, but I think they were missing some details)
<wpwrak> rafa: naw, just got up about a minute ago ;-)
<lisandropm> and, of course, check for permission (I don't think that would be hard)
<wpwrak> lisandropm: do you also have a signal generator ?
<rafa> wpwrak: just on time
<lisandropm> I *think* we have one in that frequency range, but I have to double check
<wpwrak> kewl. what sort of things are you using the lab for ?
<lisandropm> wpwrak: if coming to Bahia Blanca is not too much travel for you, I can ask this week for permission (and, of course, check that we have what you need)
<rafa> lisandropm: do you know if UBA could have something similar? I asked at lugfi, as you know.. but no answers
<lisandropm> wpwrak: the lab has gotten new equipmnet in the last few years, and I am not working in it at this time (I am trying to learn to write a device driver now ;) )
<lisandropm> rafa: no, I don't have a clue of UBA
<lisandropm> I live 700 km away ;)
<wpwrak> lisandropm: bahia blanca is a bit far, particularly since speed controls on the highways probably have gotten better in recent years. but if i can't find anything closer, it would be a good plan B.
<rafa> lisandropm: I live in BA, I should know better :P
<lisandropm> wpwrak: no highways between Buenos Aires and Bahía :-(
<wpwrak> lisandropm: this things i'd like to try are to examine the properties of an antenna: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/wpan/atusd/atusd-20100908-inserted.jpg
<lisandropm> wpwrak: ok, I'll ask just in case.
<lisandropm> I'll let you know as soon as I have a reply.
<lisandropm> do you prefer by IRC or mail?
<wpwrak> lisandropm: and if the equipment is up to it, it would also be nice to look for unwanted emissions at harmonics of 2.4 GHz (for FCC compliance and such)
<wpwrak> thanks ! either works fine :)
<lisandropm> ok :)
<wpwrak> (highway) well, there's a decent one at least until Mar del Plata. after that, speed limits are probably enforced by road conditions ...
<zear> rafa, thank you very much! :D
<lisandropm> wpwrak, rafa: ok, mail sent. I'll let you now as soon as I have news on it; please tell me if you find some other place before.
<wpwrak> rafa: of course, if we can find something a bit closer, that would be great. also in case i need to get something from home or such.
<wpwrak> lisandropm: perfect. thanks a lot !!
<lisandropm> no problem :)
<wpwrak> rafa: also thanks ! :)
<rafa> wpwrak: you are welcome
<rafa> zear: I do not remember if I gave you that link before
<zear> me neither ;)
<zear> rafa, btw, did you buy the new sd card yet? ;)
<rafa> zear: no yet :(
<zear> ;P
<kristianpaul> wpwrak: blue or green for the second vesion of the wpan case?
<wpwrak> kristianpaul: let's try green, save the nicer blue for the final version :)
<kristianpaul> :)
<kristianpaul> hmm i think you need the heeks
<kristianpaul> let me find where  but it
<kristianpaul> s/but/put
<kristianpaul> what tuxbrain suguest is good, but i think no so to print in my machine :/
<wpwrak> kristianpaul: if you want to put it somewhere in the ben-wpan project, i can give you commit access
<kristianpaul> yet
<kristianpaul> wpwrak: sure
<kristianpaul> tell me the folder i'll do
<kristianpaul> actually it is already there ;)
<kristianpaul> in my local wpan
<wpwrak> what's your ID on projects ?
<kristianpaul> kristianpaul
<kristianpaul> i guess
<kristianpaul> wait
<kristianpaul> yup that one
<wpwrak> i added you as a project member. can please you check if this gives you access ?
<kristianpaul> Happy Crew :)
<kristianpaul> so a case foler in the root is okay for you?
<kristianpaul> folder*
<wpwrak> hmm, maybe better under atusd/
<kristianpaul> sure
<kristianpaul> yeah thats the one need case ;)
<qi-bot> [commit] kristianpaul: Added first alpha design files for atusd case http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/6af7641
<wpwrak> whee, it worked ! :)
<kristianpaul> :)
<wpwrak> let's see what it looks like ...
<kristianpaul> blue one is the current version
<wpwrak> *hmm* now, how do i get that stuff into my local copy ? first time that i share a git repository
<kristianpaul> git pull
<wpwrak> that works, but there's no atusd/case
<kristianpaul> hmm
<kristianpaul> wait
<kristianpaul> it is
<wpwrak> i see it on the web. but  git pull  doesn't create it for me. odd.
<kristianpaul> i git pull again it my /tmp and was fecthed
<wpwrak> added master manually to .git/config. that worked. let's see if i can still push things ...
<kristianpaul> i gues
<kristianpaul> i wonder how git handle folders..
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Small improvements to spectrum walk script. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/fe7d55d
<wpwrak> nice ;)
<qi-bot> [commit] kyak: w3m now builds http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/582924b
<wpwrak> wow. ten little cases ;-)))
<kyak> finally.. out of elinks/links2/lynx/w3m, only w3m has decent utf-8 support
<kyak> i hate those ascii fashists
<kyak> they'll never understand...
<wpwrak> loves lowest common denominators :)
<kristianpaul> kyak: did you noticed gforth broken in backfire branch?
<kyak> kristianpaul: no, i never used gforth
<kristianpaul> neither me
<kristianpaul> but broke my building
<kyak> just throw it away
<kyak> i did throw away ruby
<kyak> it won't build with host openssl >= 1.0
<kristianpaul> hehe ok
<kyak> like i saw in one of comments, "life is too short to figure why it doesn't work"
<kristianpaul> wpwrak: 5mm tall is okay then?
<kristianpaul> kyak: hehe indeed, why doesn't work what i dont care about (yet)
<wpwrak> kristianpaul: you can probably still shave off ~0.5 mm  maybe even 1 mm
<qi-bot> [commit] kristianpaul: Added 6mm tall case http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/5810f2b
<qi-bot> [commit] kristianpaul: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:ben-wpan http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/9b99628
<kristianpaul> Merge?
<kristianpaul> wpwrak: see it and let me know to then move to print
<kristianpaul> is the green one
<wpwrak> hmm, where is it ? :)
<qi-bot> [commit] Juan64Bits: Fixing label problems, connecting image sensor. http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/71f9ab7
<wpwrak> i see 4x blue, 1x blue and black "sandwich", 1 x purple, 5x black, 1x red.
<qi-bot> [commit] Juan64Bits: Cleaning http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/66053d7
<kristianpaul> wpwrak: pull
<kristianpaul> is next the blue ones
<wpwrak> i did pull. yet it's not there ?!?
<kristianpaul> hmm
<kristianpaul> damm
<kristianpaul> wait
<wpwrak> lemme see if i get something else if i download it via the web
<kristianpaul> please
<wpwrak> nope. the same thing
<qi-bot> [commit] kristianpaul: Updated instruccions about how to get the gerber in Heekscad also niw Case is now full green http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/058c417
<kristianpaul> my mistake then
<kristianpaul> hope now is okay
<wpwrak> now i see it ! :)
<kristianpaul> btw your ben scans are grat if i have time i'll print one later
<kristianpaul> i must leave now i need go to do soeme errands
<wpwrak> hmm, still a bit on the fat side. also, the board (currently) needs about 0.5 mm of free space at the bottom.
<kristianpaul> ok
<kristianpaul> i'll fix
<kristianpaul> may be i can off shape it
<kristianpaul> hmm
<kristianpaul> or not
<kristianpaul> heh
<kristianpaul> bbl
<wpwrak> aha, juan64bits found the bug in my rename tracking code :) if you change a sheet's title, schhist will think it's a different sheet
<wpwrak> and i can also predict where the next rename will be :)
<kristianpaul> damm SDL is broken again in openwrt backfire xbusrt :/
<kyak> hm
<kyak> are you sure?
<kyak> builds and works fine for me
<wpwrak> kristianpaul: (scans) getting there ... http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/tmp/main.png
<qi-bot> [commit] kyak: MPlayer initial port. All available video outputs: sdl, directfb, fbdev http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/32de098
<kristianpaul> kyak: well i just finished compiling and flashing the ben
<kristianpaul> and gmenu2z give the error
<kristianpaul> gave*
<kristianpaul> lol
<kristianpaul> wait
<kristianpaul> it said
<kristianpaul> Unable to open mouse
<kristianpaul> so..
<kristianpaul> where is the mouse? ;)
<wpwrak> kristianpaul: first, you have to  rm `which cat`
<kristianpaul> lol
<kristianpaul> no way  ! ;)
<wpwrak> maybe  killall cat  does the trick, too.
<kristianpaul> heh this is LCM is getting funny ramdon behavior
<kristianpaul> i'll need fix bus
<kristianpaul> again.,.
<rafa> tuxbrain: I found some workaround to avoid swap with opkg
<kristianpaul> oh?
<mth> kristianpaul: "export SDL_NOMOUSE=1" might help
<qi-bot> [commit] Juan José Díaz Vecchio: Ceimtun logo added, gerber parameters fixed http://qi-hw.com/p/sie-ceimtun/508b491
<rafa> kristianpaul: We wrote a little script which check dependences and download the needed packages. Then we use opkg to install them. To avoid the out of memory when opkg installs the already downloaded packages we avoid that it reads the huge list of packages, so he avoids that step. Finally it installs those packages without swap. (opkg would like to check the dependences, but we already checked that before to download).
<kristianpaul> rafa: ja ! you're going to rewrite/replace opkg at the end :)
<rafa> kristianpaul: it is still slow.. because our script need to read the huge list of packages yet.. but well, at least it works without swap needed
<kristianpaul> good :)
<rafa> kristianpaul: well, no idea what to do.. I do not know why it sucks with memory
<kristianpaul> hmm
<kristianpaul> rafa: you can report that as a bug no?
<rafa> kristianpaul: yes, surely. But I need to understand where is the problem to give a good report. If I do not find that info I will report anyway.. Maybe they know what they need to debug
<kristianpaul> mth: it works thanks !
<kristianpaul> now where it should go in the openwrt code?
<kristianpaul> ohh no apps..
<kristianpaul> seems missing config somewhere..
<kristianpaul> lets see
<kristianpaul> wpwrak: did you solve your clock issue?
<kristianpaul> i feel i close to fall on same problem
<kristianpaul> or my timing will be crazy tring to understan some data fromt the gpio :/
<wpwrak> kristianpaul: you mean gmenu2x vs. clocks ? i just got rid of gmenu2x :) but it seems that this issue is fixed in the latest version
<kristianpaul> wpwrak: yes
<kristianpaul> k
<qi-bot> [commit] Juan64Bits: Connecting image sensor. http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/04ce5f7
<kristianpaul> xiangfu: morning there
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: Hi
<kristianpaul> are you aware of gmenu2x new vrsion in xburst bacfire?
<kristianpaul> i also noticed a missing export SDL_NOMOUSE=1
<kristianpaul> when the system start
<kristianpaul> xiangfu: why the math option the openwrt menuconfig didt you anything?
<kristianpaul> dindt*
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: hmm.. I notice the /etc/directfbrc not correct yesterday.
<kristianpaul> wher is that /etc in the openwrt folder?
<xiangfu> data/qi_lb60/files/etc
<kristianpaul> ok
<xiangfu> wait. I read the wrong file name.
<xiangfu> the SDL_NOMOUSE should be in /etc/profile
<kristianpaul> oh ok
<kristianpaul> but
<kristianpaul> is set as i expectec
<kristianpaul> t
<kristianpaul> so..
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: I think we should add "no-cursor" to /etc/directfbrc
<kristianpaul> xiangfu: okay i'll do and check
<xiangfu> ok.
<kristianpaul> xiangfu: are you happy with fudelio in 64bits?
<kristianpaul> fidelio*
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: fine for me :) my laptop also 64bits.
<kristianpaul> damm
<kristianpaul> ok
<kristianpaul> :p
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: what wrong with the 64bits , fidelio ?
<kristianpaul> not just me
<kristianpaul> my system is 32
<kristianpaul> i cant reuse the SDK
<kristianpaul> :'(
<kristianpaul> in my desktop computer
<kristianpaul> and no talkd about my mipsel laptop :)
<kristianpaul> no more complain, as it still fast for em :)
<xiangfu> :)
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: my blog server is 32bit. maybe you can reuse those files under: http://www.openmobilefree.net/other/downloads/NanoNote/
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: there is a daily build in my blog server.
<kristianpaul> ohh
<kristianpaul> you're going to burn it !
<xiangfu> for now. I am let it build the xbboot zImage.
<kristianpaul> but is great, thanks for the link
<kristianpaul> wow is in the future ! 26-Sep-2010 03:14
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: this one is the last config.full_system build: http://www.openmobilefree.net/other/downloads/NanoNote/BEN-DAILY-COMPILE/image-09142010-0915/
<kristianpaul> hmm why i had problems with gforth and you not
<kristianpaul> ,,
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: it's GMT+8, now is:  Sun Sep 26 09:57:46 GMT+8 2010.
<kristianpaul> GMT-5 i live in the past :)
<kristianpaul> 21:00
<kristianpaul> Sep 25
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: what's the gforth problem you have ?
<kristianpaul> dont copied
<kristianpaul> let's wait for it again
<kristianpaul> (last full config) is from sep 14? what is wrong with sep 26?
<kristianpaul> ahh you dint compile the SDK all days as i can see
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: the sep 26 use the config.xbboot file. so it's not compile the SDK.
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: I will set the daily build compile the config.full_system tomorrow .
<kristianpaul> ok
<kristianpaul> rafa: http://www.evopedia.info/
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: sound good.
<kristianpaul> off bed
<ebaus> hi i've just got a nanonote and tried to install debian following instructions from pyneo.org but the device never started again
<ebaus> any help to recover last os?
<xiangfu> ebaus: Hi try this page: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Debian
<ebaus> thanks
<xiangfu> ebaus: the latest version uboot you can found at :
<xiangfu> ebaus: I will update the wiki.
<ebaus> great
<ebaus> xiangfu: thanks for the advice and help
<xiangfu> update done.
<xiangfu> ebaus: you are welcome. :)