<rafa> kristianpaul: I am very curious why you get always a lot of weird errors :D
<rafa> for me it works great after a fresh install, opkg update, opkg install gpsd tangogps
<dmarschal> Hi!
<dmarschal> any updates with native gcc on NN?
<rafa> dmarschal: what do you mean?
<dmarschal> I need gcc on my NN and not cross compile everything.
<rafa> dmarschal: you can use jlime
<rafa> it should have gcc and all the gnu compiler stuff
<dmarschal> oh that's cool!
<dmarschal> thanks!
<dmarschal> giving it a try...
<rafa> you need a SD
<rafa> dmarschal: you need to install a couple of packages for a complete gcc environment.. If you need help to know which packages just ping us
<dmarschal> yes, I have a gig sd and downloading the jlime images now
<rafa> okey
<rafa> dmarschal: do you have latest qi bootloader?
<dmarschal> yes, i do. I'm with the latest 06-17 openwrt os.
<dmarschal> downloading almost done. I'm going to partition the sd card
<rafa> okey, then you just need to do (on microSD) an ext2 partition and a little swap partition
<rafa> and untar all the stuff as root
<dmarschal> dl done.
<rafa> and don't forget the umount :) and for swap partition the mkswap
<dmarschal> and to put uImage on a FAT part
<rafa> no no
<rafa> if you have the latest bootloader from qi
<rafa> you just need an ext2 partition and swap
<rafa> you do not need fat
<dmarschal> ok. thanks
<rafa> it is just needed if you use previous bootloaders or bootloader fromjlime
<dmarschal> ok I see
<dmarschal> gparted is working...
<dmarschal> i left 134mb swap on the card
<rafa> okey
<rafa> remember to do the filesystem, tar -x ... umount.. all as root
<dmarschal> ok. I think tiat will be the easiest task for today (-:
<dmarschal> soo I will ask how to share wifi internet connection over usb
<dmarschal> soo/soon
<rafa> ;)
<rafa> where do you have wifi?
<dmarschal> on aigo mid / moblin and i have a fujitsu u810 with ubuntu
<rafa> if you mean to share wifi interner over usb for nn then on muffinman manual you can find the commands
<rafa> just that for iptables it says "eth0", you will need to use your wifi interface
<dmarschal> okay. thanks! seems you will bring life to my nn (((-:
<dmarschal> wow. jlime booted! very good work!!!
<dmarschal> noe the inet stuff
<dmarschal> ping works...
<dmarschal> i have problems with jlime terminal. i can't type numbers. seems the blue fn key doesn't work
<SiENcE> can we sometime in future expect a new nanonote with usb-host or wifi build in?
<dmarschal> numbers work. i figured out. also i found the solution in the help file
<dmarschal> internet routing works with eth0 interface only? i mean no chance to share wifi conn?
<bartbes> oh
<bartbes> he left
<sid__> how do i have to build a kernel? i only get "wrong image format for bootm command"
<larsc> you need a uImage
<kristianpaul> rafa: i did same
<kristianpaul> hmm :/
<kristianpaul> just my Jlime-muffinman-image-2010.1-ben-nanonote.rootfs_READY.tar.gz is some weeks old
<kristianpaul> Jun 26
<kristianpaul> ubt fi you fot it running it make me rething what i did wrong :S
<sid__> rafa: thanks; think i found it. will check it later - work
<sid__> bye
<sid__> hmm i mean larsc ^^
<Ornotermes> now i have a ben :D
<dmarschal> hello
<dmarschal> wifi routing still not works. i followed the 'networking' and 'internet' steps on jlime.com
<dmarschal> i used '-o wlan0' with iptables
<dmarschal> finally i got it working. only if i share a wired (eth0) connection .
<rafa> dmarschal: me here
<dmarschal> hello rafa. i got it working. it is slow.
<dmarschal> now i'm trying 'opkg update'
<dmarschal> i got errors: couldn't resolve host name. i can ping jlime.com
<rafa> okey..
<rafa> so now it is working right?
<dmarschal> ping works. opkg update doesn't work
<rafa> maybe the service is down?... let me check
<dmarschal> ok thanks
<Ornotermes> is there any more distros for ben than openwrt, jlime and debian?
<rafa> dmarschal: it is working..
<rafa> mhhh..
<dmarschal> i try to wget something...
<rafa> dmarschal: aho..
<rafa> no
<rafa> dmarschal: you are right!
<rafa> dmarschal: sorry.. Let me talk with the guy who should know what to fix
<rafa> dmarschal: servers is not working it seems.
<dmarschal> oh i almost typed the full path to the gcc package (-:
<rafa> strange
<rafa> from nn
<rafa> but no with opkg update
<rafa> dmarschal: you need to install several package
<rafa> so better we fix first the problem with opkg :)
<dmarschal> with opkg?
<dmarschal> i mean i have to install paskages with opks
<rafa> dmarschal: yes, the complete compiler environment needs .. headers.. make, gcc, symlinks binutils
<rafa> etc
<rafa> dmarschal: it is working now
<rafa> dmarschal: Can you try again?
<rafa> opkg update
<dmarschal> trying...
<dmarschal> it writes: dowloading http.....
<rafa> wait for a while
<rafa> the packages file index is a little big
<dmarschal> ok waiting. i'm compiling mplayer on my zipit so i must be patient. (-:
<dmarschal> error: couldn't resolve host name
<rafa> bah..
<rafa> dmarschal: it is some server error..
<rafa> please re try
<rafa> dmarschal: can you try ?
<rafa> from nn?
<dmarschal> ok i try
<dmarschal> resolving jlime.com
<dmarschal> failed: temporary failure in name resolution
<rafa> ping works?
<dmarschal> it must be some failure with the cabling or the way i set up network
<dmarschal> i can wget the file from the host (wlan sharing) machine
<rafa> dmarschal: sorry man.. the server should work ok
<dmarschal> 919k/s 2.9mb file
<rafa> is not the usb cable with problems?
<rafa> or is it on some internal usb hub?
<dmarschal> yes, the server is ok! the fault is on my side. i tried four cables
<rafa> :(
<rafa> ping works always?
<rafa> from nn to google.com or jlime.com?
<dmarschal> yes, both works
<rafa> dmarschal: then something no very stable perhaps.. like you says.. cable.. or something like that ..
<rafa> try again please wget from nn
<dmarschal> ok wget works
<dmarschal> 280kb/sec average
<dmarschal> now it stopped )-:
<dmarschal> i think the weakest spot is my fujitsu u1010 that shares eth0
<rafa> maybe
<rafa> because it looks like your config is okey..
<rafa> but something is not stable
<rafa> dmarschal: anyway.. when you get a stable internet.. the packages that you would like to install are :
<rafa> opkg install binutils binutils-symlinks gcc gcc-symlinks make g++ g++-symlinks libgcc1 li
<rafa> bstdc++6 libstdc++-dev cpp linux-libc-headers-de
<dmarschal> ok. i found the problem.
<rafa> With those you can start build any package
<dmarschal> thank you for your help!
<rafa> dmarschal: I installed all of them in the same opkg install command
<dmarschal> i have to "ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.200" every 3 minute or else the machine drops connection
<dmarschal> 3 secons
<dmarschal> 3 second
<rafa> no worries if the installation says "can not get reccommendation package" or something like that
<rafa> ah..
<rafa> okey
<rafa> dmarschal: well, if you get a stable internet then try again opkg update first
<dmarschal> i ran into another problem.
<dmarschal> when i type any character that needs 'red up key' combination, it messes up the command line
<rafa> dmarschal: are you doing all that stuff from terminal?
<rafa> :)
<rafa> press red key again
<dmarschal> yes i'm running everything from terminal and from nn
<rafa> dmarschal: why no you do a ssh from laptop or pc to nn
<rafa> and work from there
<rafa> the keyboard laptop should be comfortable
<rafa> dmarschal: anyway,
<rafa> check the muffinman wiki .. it says something about red key. Well, let me paste :
<rafa> Note: on terminal after you press "red arrow" it keeps a "mode" which is not useful for letters. If you press it (for example to write a number) press it again to quit that odd mode. We will try to fix it soon.
<dmarschal> yes i checkd the manual and when i type "echo eeeaaa" then it works fine.
<dmarschal> when i type "echo eee-ssss" then it does nothing
<rafa> dmarschal: if you press red arrow again... no it comes let you again to type letters?
<dmarschal> can you try it?
<rafa> dmarschal: I mean.. you press read arrow + "-" right?
<dmarschal> i cna type letters without problem but when i press enter to execute the command line it does nothing. if all i typed earlier was an empty line
<rafa> ahh
<rafa> weird
<dmarschal> so that;s why i'm worried about installing binutils-symlinks
<dmarschal> because the typed "-" character will zero the command line
<rafa> dmarschal: weird
<rafa> but you can do it :
<rafa> echo 'eee-ssss"
<rafa> sorry
<rafa> echo 'eee-ssss'
<dmarschal> did it work?
<rafa> yes
<dmarschal> oh )-:
<rafa> dmarschal: but with '
<rafa> without ' marks it did not work for me.. was empty
<rafa> but that is something of echo in sh perhaps
<rafa> with the ' mark it shows me well
<rafa> the eee-ssss
<dmarschal> yes it works with '
<dmarschal> rafa: thank you for your help!
<rafa> okey
<dmarschal> i have to check cables and my ubuntu machine first.
<rafa> you are welcome ;)
<rafa> dmarschal: please, let me know when you fix the opkg update problem
<rafa> and install the ...   binutils binutils-symlinks gcc gcc-symlinks make g++ g++-symlinks libgcc1 libstdc++6 libstdc++-dev cpp linux-libc-headers-dev
<rafa> packages
<dmarschal> ok, I will! I'm still working on the connection.
<kristianpaul> rafa: when wasthe las time you updated jlime userland?
<kristianpaul> and did you read my pastebin about installing qt4
<rafa> kristianpaul: last time is the time in wiki.. let me check (download section)
<kristianpaul> i think something nis not right here i got the messages from opkg in wich the packages is not int he repo, but is there..
<rafa> which package?
<kristianpaul> rafa: maybe i have an old one, and my lasiness avoidme check new one
<rafa> kristianpaul: from http://jlime.com/mw4/index.php/Jlime_Muffinman, latest version is 28-Jun-2010
<kristianpaul> rafa: is related to qt4
<kristianpaul> hmm
<rafa> kristianpaul: ah.. okey. It is not related with the rootfs
<kristianpaul> i have 26 Jun
<rafa> it is just the repo
<kristianpaul> but
<kristianpaul> i',, like see pyqt4
<rafa> okey, let me see if I understand.. you see the package on repo but it is not found for opkg right?
<kristianpaul> yes
<kristianpaul> i found using opkg list| grep foo
<rafa> that is possible. Package indexes are consistent with the build environment.. so some packages could be there but they are not okey to install. Package indexes have only packages which are consistent with the whole repo
<kristianpaul> ah ok
<rafa> kristianpaul: That could be the reason like you see the package but opkg does not find it
<kristianpaul> cause i just get it and installed by hand
<rafa> kristianpaul: I can try to fix that
<kristianpaul> ok
<rafa> kristianpaul: but latest rootfs version is the one from here : http://jlime.com/mw4/index.php/Jlime_Muffinman
<rafa> and you can check the date of latest there
<kristianpaul> i will
<kristianpaul> i really want see tangogps
<kristianpaul> is it slow in toyur nano?
<rafa> kristianpaul: tangogps installs okey
<rafa> kristianpaul: no idea.. I just ran it twice just to test that it runs.. I see the map
<rafa> and few big buttons
<rafa> then I ran ALT+F4 to exit
<kristianpaul> oh  good :)
<kristianpaul> okay fetching last userland now to avoif my weirdnesss ;)
<kristianpaul> rafa: btw are you fpga devel related guy?
<kristianpaul> i think the guys from fpga libre arefrom argentina not sure about it
<rafa> kristianpaul: I am not a fpga devel or part of fpga libre.. But I am interested.. Do you know those guys?
<rafa> kristianpaul: let me check if they have a web site
<kristianpaul> they have in sf.net
<rafa> reading right now .. looks like a lot of stuff.. Cool!
<kristianpaul> i dont i wish
<kristianpaul> oh nanomap is already in openwrt-xburst repo inst?
<kristianpaul> and have gpsd client  good !
<kristianpaul> so small so expensive ... :'(
<kyak> can someone remind me how to disable the openwrt boot logo?
<calamarz> kyak:
<calamarz> device drivers --> graphics support
<calamarz> --> bootup logo
<kyak> is it in make menuconfig?
<calamarz> make kernel_menuconfig
<calamarz> what I dunno still is how to enable debug info output to console while booting :/
<kyak> calamarz: thanks, let's give it a try..
<rafa> calamarz: do you get a black screen when you disable the openwrt boot logo?
<calamarz> rafa: yes, until the login prompt appears.
<bartbes> well, most of the times it is a boot options
<bartbes> but I guess you should be able to specify it at compile time as well
<bartbes> it's called quiet mode in most kernels, I can tell you that
<bartbes> but that's about it
<rafa> calamarz: maybe it is the bootloader sending the whole stuff to serial
<rafa> calamarz: do you have the latest qi bootloader?
<calamarz> rafa: I think I don't... will try to update
<calamarz> bartbes: how do I change boot options that uboot passes to the kernel?
<kyak> i just disabled the boot logo and see all the messages, calamarz
<rafa> calamarz: yeah, the bootloader is the thing that you need to update (for kernel messages on screen)
<calamarz> thanks... i'll try when I arrive home :)
<nebajoth> y halo thar
<sid__> which branche should i use for kernel?
<sid__> first just for testing and booting
<mth> sid__: jz-2.6.34 is kept up-to-date, so I'd recommend that one
<sid__> hi, can someone check out http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Gentoo-cross-compilation kernel section
<sid__> gentoo base system is now compiling (gcc is still but will hopefuly do it without problems) ;-)
<sid__> good night
<kristianpaul> wait
<kristianpaul> no
<kristianpaul> why?
<kristianpaul> root@BenNanoNote:~# cat /dev/ttyS1
<kristianpaul> cat: read error: Input/output error
<kristianpaul> ah?
<kristianpaul> xiangfu: hello
<kristianpaul> what i need to to enable  /dev/ttyS1 with uboot?
<kristianpaul> Input/output error bad :(
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: we can not use ttyS1 with jz4720
<kristianpaul> ah?
<kristianpaul> so TP5/4?
<kristianpaul> oh no :(
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: TP4/5 is another pin of S0
<kristianpaul> ah
<kristianpaul> so is always dev/ttySO ?
<xiangfu> yes
<kristianpaul> but is really TP4/TP5?
<kristianpaul> but not when boot power button + S
<kristianpaul> when the serial port under the battery works?
<kristianpaul> i'm right?
<xiangfu> yes. the tp4/tp5 will always as /dev/ttyS0.
<kristianpaul> oh you save me lots of rading i dont know why i was confused
<xiangfu> power button + S will only enable the serial port under the battery.
<kristianpaul> xiangfu: :)
<kristianpaul> :D
<kristianpaul> thats why i dint worked.. (all those ours lost)
<kristianpaul> s/ours/hours
<kristianpaul> xiangfu: http://paste.debian.net/79852/
<kristianpaul> why??
<xiangfu> wait . let me test in my nanonote.
<kristianpaul> sure
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: I guess there is terminal connect to the /dev/ttyS0 in OpenWrt
<kristianpaul> ahh
<kristianpaul> bad
<kristianpaul> edit /etc/initab then?
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: we need edit kernel command line
<kristianpaul> where?
<xiangfu> kristianpaul: it's in u-boot.
<kristianpaul> oh
<kristianpaul> i'm not there too ;)
<kristianpaul> lots of code to read
<xiangfu> openwrt-xburst/package/uboot-xburst/files/include/configs/qi_lb60.h: line 8 :)
<kristianpaul> ok time i need but i'll look
<xiangfu> sure
<kristianpaul> weird
<kristianpaul> ops