00:17 <doublec> Vexis: highly concurrent applications safe(r) from deadlock and data races

00:18 <doublec> Vexis: that's the niche I think - others may differ

00:33 <Vexis> How does it fare with security? Specifically crypto

00:46 <SeanTAllen> Vexis: I dont really know how to answer that question as its very general and vague. Can you be more specific?

00:48 <Vexis> SeanTAllen: compared to other languages, does pony have any particular qualities that make it better or worse for crypto-centric applications?

00:57 <SeanTAllen> What qualities do you think Manley languages better at crypto? Or worse?

00:58 <SeanTAllen> Sorry autocorrect

01:28 <Vexis> SeanTAllen: I heard something about destructive reads. If that means users can securely erase variables in memory, then that's a plus

01:53 <SeanTAllen> Can you clarify "erase variables in memory"

03:09 <Vexis> SeanTAllen: the memory region that would've been previously allocated for a variable would be overwritten with something

04:29 <doublec> SeanTAllen: if a password is stored in an area of memory, can it be erased basically

04:30 <doublec> SeanTAllen: memset to clear an array can be optimized out, etc in C

11:15 <SeanTAllen> Vexis: that's not what a destructive read does. If you re concerned w suh things, then manually managing memory yourself is probably key. That said, we have an RFC process for changes to the language and the ability to wipe variables memory for security reasons would make an interesting RFC.