04:40 <tankf33der> https://matrix.org/blog/2018/04/26/matrix-and-riot-confirmed-as-the-basis-for-frances-secure-instant-messenger-app/

04:40 <tankf33der> awesome

05:07 <Regenaxer> Looks indeed like a very good thing

09:04 <beneroth> hi :)

09:05 <beneroth> there are some small signs that some institutions in Europe start to grok that maybe maybe it is a bad idea to be absolutely dependent on US companies...

09:05 <Regenaxer> Hi beneroth!

09:05 <Regenaxer> Hope so

09:07 <beneroth> french federal police (gendarmerie) switched to linux as desktop OS some years ago. they kept it purposely secret until it coudn't made undone easily anymore, because of fear of political pressure. they pressure came. Microsoft has a lot of mind-share (beside a broad lobby network)

09:08 <beneroth> Italian military is also starting to work on getting rid of microsoft dependency

09:08 <beneroth> germany towns switch back and forth (silly silly)

09:08 <Regenaxer> yes, eg. München

09:08 <Regenaxer> embarrassing

09:09 <beneroth> Switzerland is still mostly windows afaik. military has some special linux distros apparently, but dunno how widespread.

09:09 <beneroth> yeah

09:09 <beneroth> but I think Dortmund is now planning to switch to Linux

09:10 <beneroth> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Stadt-Dortmund-stellt-Weichen-Richtung-Open-Source-4017620.html

12:41 <Regenaxer> Got my PicoLisp T-Shirt from Teespring!

12:42 <Regenaxer> Very good! :)

12:42 <mtsd> Nice! I hope mine arrives soon too

12:42 <beneroth> me too!

12:42 <beneroth> it arrived today

12:42 <beneroth> quality seems very good

12:45 <Regenaxer> Yes indeed

13:35 <beneroth> Korea War is finally over! https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/north-korea-south-korea-summit-intl/index.html

13:46 <anjaa> beneroth: interesting read and a decent explanation of what christianity looks like without an apparent god, not sure what you mean by the fundamental opinion on which we differ though