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<cess11_> Not really. More an Invader Zim fan.
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<Nistur> cess11_: fair enough. Brain would often ask Pinky "Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Pinky?" To which Pinky would respond with something similar to "I think so Brain, but where are we going to get a goat from at this time of night" (ie something entirely unrelated)
<Nistur> anyway, what I was actually thinking was to see if we could persuade Regenaxer to set up a spreadshirt (or similar) webstore with a couple of designs :P
<Nistur> I am no good at design or visual creativity, so apart from putting just the logo, or the logo and 'picolisp', I don't know what I would suggest
<beneroth> Regenaxer will be happier if you set it up ;)
<Nistur> but then any profits come to me, and I'd feel bad about that :P
<beneroth> just send him an email to make you a bill for some percentage of the earnings ;)
<Nistur> I don't suppose it'd be _that_ many
<Nistur> many? Much.
<Nistur> That much.
<Nistur> I can English. I can English real good.
<beneroth> then there is not that much to feel bad about
<cess11_> Sounds like responsibility. An easier start might be to just make a few and sell them here.
<beneroth> where to sell more, srsly? :D
<cess11_> I for one would probably prefer T or 'T to the logo.
<beneroth> in the worst case it becomes a fashion hit independent of our community, and that would probably not be too bad for our community :)
<beneroth> cess11_, let's make a series. some with the nice quotes
<beneroth> and something about scalpel and software surgery
<Nistur> Maybe just picolisp logo on the front and on the back: This is my 'T shirt
<Nistur> no, I don't think I like that... it's a bit forced, I think
<beneroth> which one?
<Nistur> This is my 'T shirt
<Nistur> maybe just (bye) on the back
<beneroth> provokes to take it away from you
<Nistur> hmm?
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<beneroth> "This is my 'T shirt" - "not anymore"
<Nistur> hah
<beneroth> didn't this episode of the T-shirt discussion start with you wanting to secure against your wife taking your T-shirts away? :P
<Nistur> no, it happened because at some point she will just throw a stack of my tshirts in the bin
<Nistur> my favourite ones have holes
<beneroth> a T-shirt without holes is not a T-shirt :D
<Nistur> I have one which says ALWAYS MOUNT A SCRATCH MONKEY which got ravaged by one of my belts at some point
<Nistur> another one, which says "There is always one more bug" has a huge hole about where the armpit is, I have no idea how it acquired that one
<Nistur> anyway
<Nistur> when they inevitably get binned, I will need to replace them with equally geeky shirts I think
<beneroth> sweet is acidic I guess
<beneroth> sweat
<beneroth> T
<Nistur> and I would like to support the projects I approve of, which I'm using
<beneroth> T
<beneroth> make some, I buy some
<beneroth> this "will someone make some T-shirts" talk comes up here once every year. nobody made any T-shirts yet, though :/
<beneroth> :(
<Nistur> I will probably get an SDF one, and one for the shell I more normally use, I would like a picolisp one...
<Nistur> heh
<Nistur> well, if Regenaxer doesn't mind, I can set up a shop at some point. But I certainly wouldn't do so without his approval
<Nistur> I'd prefer it be him setting it up tbh :P
<Nistur> it would feel weird selling something with someone else's logo on it
<beneroth> he would prefer not to set it up himself, believe me :D
<cess11_> MIT license, no?
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<beneroth> aye. the logos are also free afaik. the older one is from Regenaxer himself (I think?), for the newer one (used on picolisp.com) there is a post about the licence somewhere on the mailing list (check the archive)
<Nistur> which one is the old logo?
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<beneroth> Nistur, the one you can see in the PilBox app, see screenshots here: https://picolisp.com/wiki/?PilBox
<beneroth> top left corner
<Nistur> ahh ok
<Nistur> spreadshirt might not be the best choice, I Cannot seem to put text on it
<Nistur> I tried with shirtinator.eu which let me put text on it... it looks good... but... it's 24EUR...
<Nistur> 14EUR for the tshirt, 5EUR for the image, and 5EUR for text
<Nistur> that is...
<Nistur> more expensive than I anticipated.
<Nistur> and I cannot seem to make a store for that
<Nistur> I mean, it's nothing that anyone else couldn't do. Apart from sharpening up the logo to work at a bigger resolution, I didn't really _do_ anything
<beneroth> same said the critics of Columbus, I mean he just sailed west. nothing big. but well, he did and others didn't ;)
<Nistur> well.
<Nistur> for one thing, many people did.
<Nistur> but secondly, it's hardly comparable
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