<beneroth>
(remote code execution bug in Microsoft Defender)
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<Regenaxer>
Hi beneroth
<miskatonic>
if it was a piece of antivirus software, it would have destroyed windows
<beneroth>
hi Regenaxer :)
<beneroth>
miskatonic, windows is not a technical virus but a mind-virus. :)
<beneroth>
this is more of an instance of the view that antivir-software generally is snakeoil (quacksalberei): expensive, taking much resources from your computer, not preventing damage (see ransom-ware), and often actually lowering the security of the system it is installed on (e.g. this CVE, and many others. all antivir-software had such exploits in the past)
<beneroth>
all offensive hacking is based on programmer mistakes
<beneroth>
the more software you have on a system, the more bugs you have on a system
<miskatonic>
fortunately, Regenaxer uses Pilos which is bug-free and non-viroidal
<miskatonic>
but stratos, which hosts the pil archive, is probably a different issue altogether
<beneroth>
afaik Regenaxer does nowehre use pilos. it hasn't enough functionality yet for any real usage ;)
<beneroth>
and servers are usually debian without antivirus software ;)
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<miskatonic>
if Cisco routers/switches/firewalls were virus infected, the whole net would go crazy
<beneroth>
well afaik there was so far never a worm on that level, but cisco products had quite some security problems and vulnerabilities, especially in recent years
<beneroth>
including stuff that looked like nsa backdoors, and a case of an nsa backdoor which turned out be used by another unknown attacker to attack the cisco router and changing the backdoor in such a way that NSA could not use it anymore xD
<beneroth>
more people look for such stuff now, too
<beneroth>
in the 90s most hacking was done by curious non-malicious teenagers. today it is professional crime (e.g. ransom ware) and secret services with big money (surveillance and warfare)
<beneroth>
so more people look for exploits, and more people build malware to exploit vulnerabilities. and then they get hacked themselves, and this IT weapons are used by other attackers :)
<beneroth>
much more money is invested (mainly my governments) in finding and weaponizing bugs versus repairing those bugs
<beneroth>
so we will probably see a lot more dramatic IT security events in the next years
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<beneroth>
s/my/by
* beneroth
is not pulling the strings
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<beneroth>
basically you want to find the one 'program' which is not standing on another program (has no parent node, if you view the whole structure as a tree)
<beneroth>
instead of pilog you might also able to fully build this tree (fully in RAM if the input list is not too big, else in pil DB) during parsing
<beneroth>
I like this comment, haha "Interesting how in every use case you mentioned the ip command is longer and more complex. Probably going to be a primary reason people still use ifconfig"
<Regenaxer>
T
<beneroth>
"Similarly, the arp, route and netstat commands are also deprecated"
<Regenaxer>
sigh
<Regenaxer>
I'm installing a new server in my basement, that's why
<beneroth>
ah
<Regenaxer>
what is "enp1s0" in /etc/network/interfaces
<beneroth>
debian or devuan?
<Regenaxer>
analog to eth0 ?
<Regenaxer>
Debian unstable
<beneroth>
holly molly
<cess11_>
uh, netstat goes away?
<cess11_>
i think i need to get a bsd box ASAP
<beneroth>
annoying that linux walks away from unix standard here
<rick42>
wow, Regenaxer, you had to install ifconfig? i would have moved to another os :)
<rick42>
beneroth: good job on articulating T about *all* people's responsibilities regarding (not only sexual) predation. ur right it's not men vs. women thing
<rick42>
sorry you had to put up with some people mischaracterizing what you were saying (which was very well put)
<beneroth>
oh thank you
<Regenaxer>
In fact, I installed and de-installed net-tools. Then switched to 'ip'
<rick42>
oh `ip` is the base tool then?
<Regenaxer>
Sure :)
<Regenaxer>
"ip a" is shorter than "/sbin/iconfig" ;)
<beneroth>
T
<beneroth>
but it is not less cryptic..looks even more cryptic ;)