22:40 <ravelo> thanks Joerg-Neo900

22:40 <ravelo> did not know about springfix

22:40 <ravelo> it's hard to find

22:45 <Joerg-Neo900> I prolly should pinp the wiki, a lot

22:45 <ravelo> i'll convince my local cell phone repair guy to do it

22:46 <Joerg-Neo900> springfix? they'll laugh at you. Also note that springfix is only a temporary solution, error will return after weeks or months the latest

22:47 <Joerg-Neo900> ask your repair shop to reflow the chips

22:48 <Joerg-Neo900> they just need to remove domesheet and camera (and whatelse is thermoplast and I forgot) and then carefully heat up the chips under the opened cans to the solder reflow temperature. They're supposed to know how to do that

22:49 <Joerg-Neo900> apply very low viscosity flux to creep under the chips, before reflow

22:50 <Joerg-Neo900> I guess the yield of such fix is >70% and it's a permanent fix when it works

22:50 <Joerg-Neo900> of course you can still do that after springfix starts to fail

22:51 <ravelo> ok thanks

22:51 <Joerg-Neo900> yw :-)

22:51 <ravelo> will try that first

23:01 <jonsger> Joerg-Neo900: and did you unboxed the 40 N900s?

23:02 <Joerg-Neo900> http://neo900.org/stuff/media/pictures/unboxing/2017-01_40/box1/

23:02 <Joerg-Neo900> http://neo900.org/stuff/media/pictures/unboxing/2017-01_40/box1_charge/

23:04 <Joerg-Neo900> rest pending, my unboxing "max headroom background" is only available after careful schedule

23:05 <jonsger> :)

23:07 <jonsger> neo900.org should use https (lets encrypt) :)

23:10 <Joerg-Neo900> umm, no. We use plain old good SSL certs

23:11 <Joerg-Neo900> https://neo900.org/stuff/media/pictures/unboxing/2017-01_40/box1_charge/

23:11 <Joerg-Neo900> I just absolutely don't want to *force* anything onto visitors of that site

23:12 <Joerg-Neo900> CA Thawte

23:15 <Joerg-Neo900> and tbh I don't want that LE stuff running on my servers to update certs every other week. It also completely defeats cert pinning

23:15 <Joerg-Neo900> and I'd *never* use a LE cert for the shop

23:16 <Joerg-Neo900> since shop is actually about server authentication, not only about encryption

23:21 <Joerg-Neo900> http://wstaw.org/m/2017/01/31/plasma-desktopT17764.png

23:25 <Joerg-Neo900> the 3 cookies I got are most likely from shop (prestashop) - sorry for that

23:39 <jonsger> Joerg-Neo900: where to send patches for the neo900-git repo?

23:41 <Joerg-Neo900> which patches?

23:41 <Joerg-Neo900> prolly per email to contact@neo900

23:43 <jonsger> a missed link on the website, nothing spectaculare :) okay

23:45 <Joerg-Neo900> well, that would be webmaster aka how900 then, I'm not sure which email addr or other transfer medium though. I guess what I said will work for now

23:50 <Joerg-Neo900> jonsger: thanks!! wpwrak^^^^ your turn I guess