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<enyc> sixwheeledbeast: hrrm do you have IPv6 RA's working to pickup auto-address on wifi with N900 ??
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<Pali> enyc: I have
<Pali> enyc: Look at this package http://maemo.org/packages/view/ipv6-support/ It install kernel with ipv6 support, dhcpv6 client and enable ipv6 in some applications
<enyc> Pali: oooh interesting
<enyc> Pali: i may have had that installed...
<Pali> also test package(s) and vote for promoting them to Maemo Extras! http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1483833&postcount=28
<enyc> used to using kernel-power
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<enyc> however... i bileieve i've never had the wifi-hotspot (albeit WEP-only) working with any updated system / cssu / kernel-power etc
<enyc> which is a pain
<Pali> we do not have drivers & firmware for wifi chip to work in AP (master) mode
<Pali> so it is not possible to create AP from n900...
<enyc> herrrm WPA anyway
<enyc> in some form I have had WEP AP _working_ but NOT on CSSU/power updated system
* enyc hopes DocScrutinizer05 selects something that works nicely for all these in neo900 of course! =)
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<Pali> enyc: you cannot create AP on N900, so you could not have had AP working on N900...
<Pali> from N900 you can connect to AP
<Pali> or you can connect to Ad-Hoc network
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<Defiant> Pali: you could have used the host function of the usb otg
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<enyc> Pali: i think WEP with DHCPv4 server is what you might describe as ad-hoc in your terminology
<enyc> Pali: which definitely was working on n900
<enyc> Pali: its' just there isn't the firmware to do _WPA_ type AP
<Wizzup> enyc: it's an ad-hoc network
<Wizzup> it's not an AP
<Wizzup> there's a difference
<enyc> Wizzup: nods
<enyc> Wizzup: its' just this silyl ISV-managed ad-hoc encription etc.
<enyc> Wizzup: no ''connection state'' at layer-2 etc
<enyc> Wizzup: makes sense
<enyc> ok so...
<Wizzup> yes
<enyc> on N900, I've not been able to get the Ad-HOC WEP network with DHCPv4 server via either of the hotspot packages to work, once using CSSU/power kernel, it then breaks, I think
<Wizzup> it works for me, using power kernel, cssu thumb and qt mobile hotspot
<Wizzup> (n.b. you likely don't need thumb)
<enyc> nods
<enyc> qt-mobile-hotspot works for you.. good to know, i'll tryi htis again soon =)
<Pali> N900 is linux device
<Pali> you can connect to ad-hoc network same as on other linux device
<Pali> use wpa_supplicant for dynamic key exchange
<Pali> or iw for static keys
<Pali> both iw and wpa_supplicant programs are in maemo extras
<Pali> dhcp server is provided by dnsmasq
<Pali> and dnsmasq is preinstalled on every n900
<Pali> "internet sharing" again can be done as on any other linux
<Pali> enable ip packet forwarding between interfaces
<Pali> and add masquerade rule to prerouting iptables chain
<Pali> everything is exacly same as on any other linux device
<Pali> you just need kernel which support that, and kernel-power is ok
<enyc> Pali: but can't run hostapd/wpad due to driver ?
<Pali> yes, driver must support AP mode
<Pali> and wl1251 driver does not support it because: 1) TI did not released firmware which can configure our card in AP mode and 2) there is even no information how to do that...
<DocScrutinizer05> maybe there's no hardware in wl1251 for that
<DocScrutinizer05> wl1273 is hard to source, we will possibly go for http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/wl1837mod.pdf
<DocScrutinizer05> which officially supports AP mode
<DocScrutinizer05> yes, it also has "blobs" for firmware
<DocScrutinizer05> ^^^ food for our RE-department guys ;-)
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<hoijui> are there any stupid phones that one can get cheap (used) that have a full keyboard? and if not, which stupid phone with common keyboard can you suggest?
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<sixwheeledbeast> enyc: sorry, RA's?
<DocScrutinizer05> hoijui: some of my friends adore the Nokia 32xx series
<hoijui> DocScrutinizer05, ok.. i am looking at those right now...
<hoijui> i had a Nokia 6310i for well over 10 years, but it got stolen
<DocScrutinizer05> actually 33xx 34xx, sorry
<hoijui> ahh.. ok
<DocScrutinizer05> well, same here, had a 6250 for almost 10 years
<hoijui> mmmm
<DocScrutinizer05> oops 6210
<DocScrutinizer05> those numbers get me puzzled
<DocScrutinizer05> the 6250 however was a very nice phone too
<DocScrutinizer05> even had a dB-A audio level meter
<DocScrutinizer05> which came in handy for the friend who owned it, when he worked as roadie for bands
<DocScrutinizer05> another friend has the 6310i and used it several years as mobile terminal to administrate a web-hoster's servers
<DocScrutinizer05> via CSD, since GPRS has waaay too high RTT for shell
<hoijui> mmm cool :-)
<hoijui> i guess i will get 3410
<DocScrutinizer05> yes, a friend of mine has that and she loves it so much she got a new one after she finally found a way to actually break that thing. It's s sturdy device it seems, she's very rough with it and still it 'just works'
<DocScrutinizer05> another acquaintance of me had some dunno Samsung or whatever, and he always moaned about the defect batteries (even swapped them on warranty a few times) for not surviving a single day in standby. Finally I found out he enabled the *very* cute function "display backlight *always* on"
<DocScrutinizer05> ;-P
<DocScrutinizer05> well, he's a professional cook, prolly doesn't need to understand much of technical aspects of this world
<hoijui> hehehehe :D
<hoijui> yeah.. my nokia was on all hte time all these years, and battery still lasted usually 2 weeks
<hoijui> now i have an old nokia from my mum, dunnu whihc number, but it already has color display, and when i get a call, it usually turns off right when i try ot pick it :D bad battery
<hoijui> ah.. is there some way to send sms form a linux PC over bloototh or infra-red over the mobile phone?
<hoijui> bluetooth*
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<hoijui> .. seems possible with gnokii
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<DocScrutinizer05> yes, exactly. Gnokii or Kandy
<DocScrutinizer05> or via AT commands over miniterm ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05> hard to google: https://community.kde.org/KDE_PIM/History/Kandy
<DocScrutinizer05> seems a tiny bit obsolete/orphaned
<DocScrutinizer05> I found it way easier to use than Gnokii though
<DocScrutinizer05> as long as it was a living software
<DocScrutinizer05> I used it with generic linux IrDA support and AT interface to Nokia 6210
<DocScrutinizer05> http://www.developershome.com/sms/smsLinux.asp seems pretty comprehensive
<hoijui> mmm thanks :-)
<DocScrutinizer05> yw
<hoijui> does the 3410 have a data port at all?
<DocScrutinizer05> dunno, prolly not (except the usual M-bus/F-bus)
<hoijui> yeah.. looks like not
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<timclassic> Oh man, Kandy... that's bringing back the memories.
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<hoijui> soo... either 3410 (18 Euros), or 6100+USB cable (22 + 8 Euros)
<hoijui> the 6100 is the lowest-tech/cheapest one i could find that has external data cable port
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<ds2> blah no more n900 :(
<Wizzup> ?
<ds2> TMO killed the 3G towers in the SF Bay area
<freemangordon> TMO?
<ds2> Tmobile
<Wizzup> really?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: talk.maemo.org ;p
<ds2> and i thought I was getting throttled for using less then 500K a month
<ds2> they killed the band that works on the N900's radio...
<ds2> :(
<Wizzup> I thought N900 did HSDPA?
<ds2> there are different bands depending on where you are geographically
<ds2> same sim gets a H+ data connection on a Galaxy Nexus but only 2.5G indicator on the N900
<ds2> might be residual 700MHz service
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<Pali> DocScrutinizer05: we have problem, we lost hildon-control-panel git repository which was on gitorious community-ssu...
<Pali> do you know if somebody has backup of that gitorious repository? I think that somebody did backup of all maemo/hildon git repos...
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<enyc> sixwheeledbeast: RA = Router-Advertisement, used in IPv6
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