DocScrutinizer05 changed the topic of #neo900 to: http://neo900.org | conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23neo900/ and http://irclog.whitequark.org/neo900
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<GI_Jack> sup
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<Pali> "Zurzeit implementiert dies jedoch nur Gummiboot, das vor etwa zweieinhalb Jahren von den Red-Hat-Entwicklern +Kay Sievers und +Harald Hoyer vorgestellt wurde."
<GI_Jack> will the neo900 ship a second batch?
<Pali> "Die meisten von euch werden diese Ankündigung wahrscheinlich hassen", sagte Lennart Poettering in seinem Vortrag auf der Fosdem.
<Pali> Danke schön, Lennart!
<Pali> ~poettering
<infobot> 'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html, or http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01488.html, or see ~systemd cabal
<Pali> ~systemd cabal
<infobot> systemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, Harald Hoyer, Daniel Mack, Tom Gundersen, David Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced kernel, or see http://boycottsystemd.org/, or http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ https://devuan.org
<Pali> aaa +Kay Sievers und +Harald Hoyer are already in systemd cabal list
<GI_Jack> conspiracy, conspiracy
<Pali> "Dieser Schritt sei notwendig, um die komplette Sicherheitskette umzusetzen, die Secure Boot erfordere."
<Pali> "Besonders wichtig ist dies in der Post-Snowden-Arä, wie Poettering sagte."
<Pali> Scheisse...
<Pali> he is total idiot!
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<Pali> DocScrutinizer05: factoid for system cabal is incorrect... "Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced kernel" in 2015 it already replacing bootloader
<wpwrak> and 2017, in a public ceremony, poettering will devour linus
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<Oksana> GI_Jack: Second batch: highly unlikely.
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<freemangordon> Pali: and what options we have?
<Wizzup> openrc
<Pali> sys v init
<freemangordon> wait, how's that related to the bootloader?
<bencoh> :)
<bencoh> it's not, that's the point :))
<freemangordon> also, my point was rather - "what we can do?"
<Pali> yes, we are still missing systemd-biosd
<Pali> and systemd-uefid
<freemangordon> :)
<Pali> systemd-xloaderd :D
<freemangordon> :D
<bencoh> they might swallow coreboot, *fear*
<bencoh> haha :D
<Pali> yes, coreboot will be systemd service too!
<freemangordon> I wonder what would be the upstream devs stance on that one
<Pali> no problem
<bencoh> you think they could uncover the missing parts of the l3/l4 firewalling and hw aes ? :)
<Pali> no, they force you to use systemd only
<Pali> and everywhere
<Pali> on every hw
<Pali> incomatible hw will not be used anymore
<bencoh> thus we shalt be terminated
<Pali> anyway, some TI troll is going to break n900 support in mainline kernel :-(
<Pali> (break = not boot anymore)
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<bencoh> :/
<bencoh> well if it also breaks qemu ...
<bencoh> someone might just say "no"
<nox-> might need to point him to the n900 qemu branch
<nox-> (or does it happen on mainline qemu too?)
<Pali> it breaks both real n900 and qemu n900
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<nox-> *nod*
<nox-> i just meant he might not know the n900 version of qemu
<nox-> dunno which one is better
<Oksana> Moin. Any news? About Neo900 prototypes, Fremantle Porting Task Force, or something?
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