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<kvsari> Are there any reccomendations for a TTY to USB?
<kvsari> I bought two yesterday and both of them have failed.
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<hp197> Morning...
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<WeblordPepe> hi every body!
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<patap> Orange Pi PC for 8.57 usd
<KotCzarny> wow
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<KotCzarny> sucks for .eu tho
<jelle> nice
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<patap> KotCzarny: what do you mean?
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<KotCzarny> patap: promo is for us
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<patp> KotCzarny: I just made a order from Finland for 8,57 including shipping costs
<KotCzarny> hmm
<KotCzarny> lol
<KotCzarny> 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
<KotCzarny> i think their site is either broken or in emergency repair ;)
<patp> works for mw
<patp> *me
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<KotCzarny> oh well, 9usd is cheap. lets see when it arrives ;)
<KotCzarny> Thank You: Information for your Order {$order.order_sn} is inside
<KotCzarny> though the site is a bit suspicious ;)
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<TheLinuxBug> yeah thats lame
<TheLinuxBug> you choose US
<TheLinuxBug> and its 22.55
<TheLinuxBug> it can't cost them 14$ a unit to ship
<TheLinuxBug> hmm
<TheLinuxBug> looking again it seems only cheap if ordered from china
<TheLinuxBug> maybe ill grab one since I am in no rush I can wait a month for it to ship from china ;p
<TheLinuxBug> course thats the one with 100mbit nic only
<NiteHawk> yes, you need to pick the "stock from china". same if you select "EU", prices goes up notably
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<TheLinuxBug> lol
<TheLinuxBug> so I guess thats a special 'vip price;
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<TheLinuxBug> cause active promo GBOlympic only works on 'full price items' and will revert cost to the 22$ each or whatever
<TheLinuxBug> ha
<NiteHawk> no, the promo/discount obviously only applies to the china stock - otherwise you're back to more or less "normal" rates
<NiteHawk> e.g. EU is advertised as discounted, too - but at a much lower percentage
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<NiteHawk> how they can produce and ship that thing for $8.50 is beyond me, however. must be a loss...
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<jonkerj> thanks for the hint, /me just sniped a $8.54 opiPC =)
<jonkerj> now we play the waiting game
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<tkaiser> Jean-Luc just confirmed that's a 'big' Gearbest promo until stock lasts. So if you can wait a bit that's maybe the cheapest way to get a fully equipped H3 device (all 4 USB ports available)
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<TheLinuxBug> jonkerj: me too ;p\
<NiteHawk> same here :D
<TheLinuxBug> hope you don't mind I shared the link with some others :Z
<TheLinuxBug> hehe
<TheLinuxBug> I paid the exta 0.19 for tracking though
<TheLinuxBug> suggested shipping was faster and I figured would be nice to know when its coming
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<jonkerj> I did the same
<jonkerj> although I doubt it will tell me when it's coming
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<jonkerj> it will tell you when it leaves China, after that, it is waiting waiting waiting
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<TheLinuxBug> lol hopefully it makes it here in better condition than the pi plus 2e did
<TheLinuxBug> the outside box looked like it was used as a soccer ball
<TheLinuxBug> luckily board was ok
<TheLinuxBug> but I took some pics at first cause I couldn't be sure
<TheLinuxBug> but that was direct from aliexpress
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<KotCzarny> i just hope it arrives
<KotCzarny> ;)
<KotCzarny> for 8.5usd its cheaper than the c.h.i.p., pine64 and comparable boards ;)
<KotCzarny> and accounting shipping, MUCH cheaper
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<swiftgeek> nothing for the eu?
<vpeter> swiftgeek: I payed 8 € total for eu.
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<swiftgeek> oh great just noticed that one can select warehouse
<swiftgeek> Sorry,flash sale is over.
<swiftgeek> :(
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<montjoie> just added a83t to the status matrix
<montjoie> Does PSCI/SMP for A83T is usuable ?
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<longsleep> Is the Nano PI NEO from friendlyarm somwhat useful?
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<jelle> I found the shipping costs too much
<KotCzarny> hmm, there is still opipc for 8.5usd on gearbest site
<KotCzarny> ahm, but price changes when added to cart
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<swiftgeek> yes
<swiftgeek> ads in 2016
<swiftgeek> with humans
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<willmore> The orange pi pc has a proper voltage regulator for DVFS, right?
<willmore> Yeah, it does...
<KotCzarny> yup
<KotCzarny> flash deal is over tho
<KotCzarny> pretty nice deal at 8.5usd total
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<willmore> Yeah, bummer.
<willmore> Oh, well.
<willmore> My Opi1's are sill fine, though.
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<wens> montjoie: haven't started working on a83t psci
<montjoie> wens: I believed you started it
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<wens> montjoie: no, i haven't started it yet
<wens> all i did was clean up so i could work on it more easily
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<TheLinuxBug> ha they bumped it back up to 20$ now
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<buZz> so
<buZz> is G2D part of mali?
<buZz> or seperate IP
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<Wizzup> buZz: seperate
<buZz> yeah i couldnt find a lot of info about it
<buZz> 22:37:38 < nbastin> it is not bound to mali
<buZz> 22:37:49 < nbastin> however on the allwinners it's mostly implemented in the mali gpu IP
<buZz> pff
<buZz> guy isnt accepting it
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<longsleep> anyone could explain https://github.com/allwinner-zh/linux-3.4-sunxi/commit/6964d467510849e3e262518cb87bff7ef92e01f5 to me please ? That part of code is also in the 3.10 BSP and i am wondering what it does and what "insecur" means in allwinner terms
<longsleep> not insecure, they say non_secure
<apritzel> longsleep: this is a loophole, you can do an ioctl and read or write to _every_ memory location of your choice
<apritzel> I doubt they are aware of the difference between non_secure and insecure
<longsleep> apritzel: yes - i understand that but i thought it was required no? As they have removed it nobody uses it - but why is it there in the first place?
<apritzel> hacking, experimentation, lack of proper abstraction
<longsleep> and why have they suddenly removed this part of code? Is there some kind of exploit for Allwinner devices using this?
<longsleep> I mean their Kernel 3.4 tree is pretty much abandonware and now they remove it - i assume there is a reason
<apritzel> is this device normally accessible by regular users?
<longsleep> yes, i have a udev rule which makes it so
<apritzel> so it's a "make me root" tool again
<longsleep> crwxrwx--- 1 root video 150, 0 Feb 11 16:28 /dev/cedar_dev
<apritzel> I have seen quite some code in Allwinner's sources that was experimental
<longsleep> nice, and its probably in all their BSPs
<apritzel> so during their bringup they do all kind of crazy stuff
<apritzel> fair enough
<apritzel> but then they seemingly forget to remove this before shipping it
<longsleep> yes, it seems just like that
<apritzel> they are accessing EL3 registers here
<apritzel> they apparently did this when there was no ATF yet
<apritzel> super dirty hack, which is OK if you do it on your box and need to get it running still today
<longsleep> apritzel: I guess the whole tree is full of such things
<apritzel> indeed
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<apritzel> longsleep: maybe they don't have proper revision control systems
<longsleep> damn i cannot even edit their Kernel files without a custom editor profile as their whitespace is a mess as well
<apritzel> don't forget the executable permissions on the source files ;-)
<apritzel> and DOS line endings
<longsleep> apritzel: yes - i think they copy around tarballs of directories
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<longsleep> All right, cedar_ve: Remove global memory/read write ioctl https://github.com/longsleep/linux-pine64/commit/ae21aeb3b2afc551180b5b009c02f9c27f8e73bd for my Pine64 3.10 tree
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<rellla> Nice article, especially the interesting comments
<rellla> German only, though...
<rellla> The well known allwinner shitstorm starting, a few posting against it.
<rellla> And again it's because of the "aggressive" ones that don't or won't recognize the community's work.
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<rellla> Prebuilt images from the shitpi vendors....
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* rellla has no account on that forum and will not post anything. Not the way i like people talking to eachother. Aggressive, mostly cluelessness. Sad.
<rellla> Everybody is welcome to do that though ;)
<rellla> Says and leaves again :p
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<fire219> finally managed to get apritzel's a64-v5 tree kernel to compile and boot on the Pine64 :D
<fire219> it shouldn't be a big achievement, but it just didn't want to work for me
<fire219> and i had to tweak the config quite a lot to make it build...
<fire219> now to figure out why it boots but stops before doing anything with the rootfs (AFAICT)
<fire219> there's no fs errors or anything...
<hp197> For perfect mainline kernels you have to wait on allwinner, untill they produce one
<hp197> ;-)
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<fire219> i'm not expecting perfect, i just want to get the damn thing to boot to a usable state :)
<fire219> and learn about how all this crap works in the process
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