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<wens> montjoie: ephy driver needs a bit of rework to build as a module
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<lennyraposo> hey nieuwbie
<lennyraposo> looking at things
<lennyraposo> what are you having issues with?
<lennyraposo> I see the 3 usbs listed
<lennyraposo> plus the otg
<lennyraposo> single cpu
<lennyraposo> 2nd file is from what?
<lennyraposo> A10-EVB-V1.2
<lennyraposo> oh I see
<lennyraposo> A10
<lennyraposo> differences in hardware
<lennyraposo> you are basically writing one up for the A10 EVB
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<nieuwbie> lennyraposo: I've kinda wrote it. ^_^
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<nieuwbie> lennyraposo: It's booting, no network though
<nieuwbie> the dts I wrote myself and script.fex is from my polaroid
<lennyraposo> hmm
<lennyraposo> didn't notice a gmac ethphy
<nieuwbie> I'm just happy I could boot it, the biggest challange for me is to get lcd and touchscreen working
<lennyraposo> that's alot further than I have gone ;)
<nieuwbie> I think that dcdc2 is wrong
<lennyraposo> and I know soon enough I will be jumping on to pine mainline ;)
<nieuwbie> Maybe just luck.
<nieuwbie> You're tempting me with that pine64
<lennyraposo> would love to write something up that just strips away the wall and gets us what we need for open source ;)
<lennyraposo> take proprietary extract it's guts and get it opened
<lennyraposo> that would be great in terms of the Mali
<nieuwbie> ell there is lima?
<lennyraposo> as far as I know it's dead
<lennyraposo> gotta pick mripard's brain
<lennyraposo> one day
<nieuwbie> True, but loads of reverse engineering has been done there
<nieuwbie> tell me is there any chance to get that pine of yours?
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<nieuwbie> lennyraposo: Power consumption less than my led lightbulb. :D
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<nieuwbie> oh damn, so theres no support for mainline? Cool :)
<lennyraposo> you can order I think
<lennyraposo> but there have been delays
<lennyraposo> I ordered 7 in total
<lennyraposo> plus the one I have here it makes 8
<lennyraposo> I need 5 for what I wanna attempt
<lennyraposo> mainline is WIP for the pine64
<lennyraposo> hoping to get our hands on boot0 for u-boot
<lennyraposo> if not at teh very least I am hoping tllim will get us the Mali binaries for it
<nieuwbie> why so many?
<lennyraposo> gonna make a small webhosting cluster
<lennyraposo> ;)
<lennyraposo> 4 frontend apache / nginx (gonna test both)
<lennyraposo> 1 for dedicated mysql db
<lennyraposo> the databse will be multirole
<lennyraposo> will also handle nfs with a USB drive
<nieuwbie> Interesting
<lennyraposo> 2 of the frontends will also have haproxy in master slave configuration (fault tolerance)
<lennyraposo> the other 2 frontends will double as dns 1 and 2 ;)
<lennyraposo> I have similar setup with a stack of j1900 celerons here
<lennyraposo> all for a game I am developing
<lennyraposo> woohoo
<lennyraposo> last alsa config done
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<lennyraposo> works in xfce and lxde
<lennyraposo> now testing mate
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<asmir> Hi; If I wanted to use capacitive touch - do I need one with controller board or not for A20 CPU?
<wens> capacitive touch is a separate control IC
<wens> the SoC only supports resistive touch
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<asmir> ok, thank you wens
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<Amit_T> Hello: Does Organge pi pc PCB has external PHY or it just EPHY is available ?
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<wens> Amit_T: only the internal EPHY
<Amit_T> wens: ok, Thanks.
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<montjoie> hello does someone have any idea of what I miss to made USB work on opipc ? hci logs and CONFIG here http://pastebin.com/9upqJKUH
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<wens> what tree are you using?
<montjoie> mine:)
<wens> you need to use hans' sunxi-wip, which has all the needed patches
<wens> specifically shared reset controls
<montjoie> I believed to grab all those patch
<montjoie> I will recheck
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<montjoie> it seems that the missing patch does not apply cleanly on 4.6:(
<plaes> montjoie: why don't you just use hans's sunxi-wip?
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<wens> it's what I'm using
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<montjoie> I always stack all my patch against linux tree, perhaps its bad
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<wens> doing development you almost always use some form of -next
<wens> otherwise it's likely patches won't apply
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<kdubious_> wens: when you were telling me about missing pull up resistors.... were you saying MDI-0 or MDIO?
<kdubious_> on my Itead ethernet
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<kdubious_> Is there some startup sequence at power on (and only power on) then enables / disables Ethernet?
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<wens> kdubious_: MDIO (as in Input/Output)
<kdubious_> ok, there is one, a pull uo resistor. i looked at their CAD files.
<wens> what do you mean by power on startup sequence?
<kdubious_> when i apply power, either eth works or not.
<kdubious_> if it doesnt.... then no warm reboot fixes it. only true power cycle
<kdubious_> i foubd that having a uart connected was "causing" eth0 to work 100% of the time
<wens> it could be the phy needs some order of power supplied? like I/O before main core?
<wens> really depends on the board and phy
<wens> the phy's datasheet might have something on it
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<kdubious_> newbie question... but the Phy is the eth connector, or the eth chip?
<kdubious_> its a realtek chip, but i can't track down a datasheet... yet.
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<kdubious_> i have a hack (apply 3.3v to uart-rx), but it only works on one of the three boards i have from Itead
<kdubious_> i really want to know if i have a bad DTS or bad hardware
<wens> the eth "phy" chip
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<kdubious_> Assuming it did need some specific sequence, would there even be a way to control that through code? DTS? Boards.c file?
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<wens> uh... maybe... maybe not :|
<kdubious_> rtl8211e
<wens> google should be able to find one
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<kdunious> pg 55, shows power sequence?
<wens> yes
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<kdubious> im way out of my league here.
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<kdubious> wens: is this doable in code? is this already done? any ideas of where to go from here?
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<wens> depends on your board design
<wens> where 3.3v and 2.5v come from
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<TheLinuxBug> I am curious, have any of you guys worked with the Acadia V3 (Quad Core i.MX6) before and how does it actually compare to say an A20 for SATA speeds, etc
<TheLinuxBug> wondering if it would provide any better IO than the A20 would and in general how the board runs
<TheLinuxBug> (does it run hot, is the software for it all old and crap..) I see people like OpenRex working to make boards with the i.MX6 so it must have some good qualities, but seeing that it generally costs more and curious if its actually worth the additional cost?
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<willmore> TheLinuxBug, I am not an authoritative source, but it's my understanding that none of the A chips have native SATA. The boards that have SATA have it via a slow USB to SATA bridge. So, if the i.MX6 has native SATA, it's going to be faster unless Freescale really blew up something.
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* vagrantc thought the A20 had native sata
<KotCzarny> willmore, a10/a20 has native sata
<KotCzarny> capable of 200/50MB/s
<willmore> KotCzarny, thanks for the clarification. Goes to show that I'm not authroitative! :)
<KotCzarny> but those are the only ones
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* willmore makes a note.
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<KotCzarny> nice thing about it is that it even supports port multipliers
<KotCzarny> in crappy mode but still
<lennyraposo> does anyone know what android uses for sound
<lennyraposo> is it using alsa in other words?
<willmore> KotCzarny, article needs some proofing.
<KotCzarny> which part?
<KotCzarny> numbers are consistent between users
<KotCzarny> and mostly done by tkaiser
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<willmore> KotCzarny, first paragraph under Performance. Says "silicone" instead of "silicon".
<KotCzarny> ahm, you meant proofreading
<KotCzarny> fill free to fix them
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<KotCzarny> remember that many people here have english as a second language
<willmore> KotCzarny, understood.
<willmore> lennyraposo, you've edited the wiki, how do I get started?
<KotCzarny> willmore: register
<KotCzarny> then just click 'edit'
<willmore> Okay, registered. Looking for 'edit'.
<KotCzarny> if you cant edit ping anyone from techstaff to upgrade your account to 'human'
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<NiteHawk> i'll promote willmore to a human being ;)
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<willmore> I edited a page!
<willmore> Okay, I saw some video resolutions that were 'email protected' that I had meant to fix.....
<NiteHawk> gz and welcome aboard :)
<willmore> Thanks, NiteHawk.
<KotCzarny> drat, earlier: s/fill/feel/ and you didnt even notice :P
<willmore> I only turn on my proofreading brain when reading web pages, not IRC. People don't enjoy it in IRC. :)
<willmore> I'm trying to use my powers for good, not evil.
<KotCzarny> i prefer having it turned on all the time, otherwise brain starts to remember wrong version of the words
<willmore> Ahh, normal part of brain doesn't know nor care. :)
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<KotCzarny> sure, until it has to choose from 2 versions of the word with 50/50 hints from the memory banks
<willmore> Darn, I can't find the page. Google didn't even help. Maybe it wasn't the sunxi wiki.
<willmore> Nope, I've never seen that page. Interesting, though. No video resolutions mistaken as email addresses that I can se.
<willmore> see.
<KotCzarny> i never saw any 'email protected' on sunxi wiki
<KotCzarny> i might be wrong tho
<KotCzarny> hehe
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<KotCzarny> i think i have found your 'email protected' infected page
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<willmore> KotCzarny, did you fix it? Looks okay. That wasn't the page. It would have been something to do with cedar as I was looking into that most recently, but a quick review of those pages shows nothing.
<KotCzarny> logout, then you will see it
<KotCzarny> most likely thet spam filter only activates when you are not logged in
<KotCzarny> *that
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<willmore> Ahh.
<willmore> That makes it hard to fix.
<KotCzarny> just add spaces on both sides of the @
<KotCzarny> or something
<KotCzarny> fix in firefox (logged in), check in chrome (logged out)
<willmore> Nope, checked in FF not logged in and it's fine. Strange.
<willmore> KotCzarny, found the issue. It's if you allow scripting!
<willmore> If you allow scripting, they show. If you don't, they show as protected.
<KotCzarny> right
<KotCzarny> still, those arent emails, so filter shouldnt mangle them
<KotCzarny> bbl
<willmore> And firefox/noscript shares script permissions with private browsers!!! That's a bug!
<willmore> KotCzarny, agreed.
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<NiteHawk> converting @ to html entities (&#64;) might work, too - though it looks rather weird in the page source
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<longsleep> So, anyone knows a good example for a sunxi board booting with the EFI stub?
<lennyraposo> not I sir
<lennyraposo> Hey longsleep
<longsleep> yes
<lennyraposo> in your simpleimage creation tools
<lennyraposo> was that the Mali binary that was included
<longsleep> uhm?
<longsleep> what mali binary?
<lennyraposo> nm
<lennyraposo> it was the mali kernel module
<longsleep> yeah, that is built from source / part of the Kernel tree
<lennyraposo> we still need the binary I am assuming
<longsleep> yes, for X11 or OpenGL ES, best both
<lennyraposo> ok
<longsleep> also a fixed mali_drm module would be nice
<lennyraposo> hope tllim gets it next week
<longsleep> the one in the BSP is using obsolte Kernel API's no longer there and thus does not compile
<longsleep> i very much doubt it
<lennyraposo> he was tlaking to me about a newer srouce be available
<lennyraposo> an update of sorts
<longsleep> mhm, i have the clue that they do not know very much when i read about the Ethernet issue on android
<lennyraposo> is it fair to assume that the binary provided would have to be for the 3.10 BSP kernel or can it be reused for mainline?
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<longsleep> lennyraposo: it should be unrelated to the Kernel
<lennyraposo> perfect
<lennyraposo> :D
<longsleep> lennyraposo: you can try the mali 450 binary which can be downloaded from arm
<longsleep> lennyraposo: ssvb said id has no X11 though, but on the console it might work. Neither he or myself are willing to invest time it it for the moment though :)
<lennyraposo> would be a nice challenge
<longsleep> one it should have been a in
<lennyraposo> they made me a moderator now
<lennyraposo> and the first thing that happens is my threads get removed
<lennyraposo> when updating new instrucitons for ALSA settings
<longsleep> lennyraposo: what?
<lennyraposo> think it nees to be approved by aother moderator or something
<lennyraposo> ya chekc the forums
<longsleep> lennyraposo: forum is a total mess and should be closed if you ask me :)
<lennyraposo> both the Images Page and the Bug reports is gone ;)
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<lennyraposo> and I just got the SoftVol solution up
<lennyraposo> multiple audio streams plus a volume control for XFCE and LXDE
<lennyraposo> Mate was the only problem
<lennyraposo> audio works nicely now ;)
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<longsleep> lennyraposo: yeah, well i am not willing to accept the solution "remove pulse"
<lennyraposo> you wanna keep pulse
<lennyraposo> ther eis a solution I am working for it too ;)
<longsleep> well i want to get it of pulse once and for all, but as i have no say on the matter i embrace it
<longsleep> s/it of/rid of
<lennyraposo> as soon as I work upa solution I will send it over to you
<longsleep> lennyraposo: i was thinking if i could just disable the codec stuff in the Kernel if you say that this causing the problem
<lennyraposo> it's somethign to do with the sinks
<lennyraposo> in pulseaudio
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<lennyraposo> will elt you know by tomorrow
<lennyraposo> let*
<longsleep> lennyraposo: ok cool, i will be around on Thursday earliest again
<lennyraposo> okee dokee
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<lennyraposo> hey longsleep I have a site that will be operational tomorrow for pine related stuffs
<lennyraposo> if you like to have access just say the word ;)
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<agraf> longsleep: howdy
<agraf> longsleep: so no, I haven't debugged down why RTS don't work on the bsp kernel
<agraf> longsleep: I'm not sure I care enough though
<agraf> longsleep: the faster I can move to an upstream based kernel, the happier I am
<agraf> longsleep: the one major thing missing imho is graphics - and that doesn't work even with the bsp kernel for me right now
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<TheLinuxBug> KotCzarny: Thanks, that is interesting, supposedly the trade off is 90M/sec write for half the read speed on the i.MX6. INteresting however as the NIC still only supports 480Mbps so can't upload at more than 50M/sec anyways... but I am sure local writes are much faster... all that said
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<kdubious> I'm still struggling to bring up reliable Eth on an Itead board... can anyone help troubleshoot?
<kdubious> It has a Realtek RTL8211E
<kdubious> And the APX809 connects to PHYRST#
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