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<slapin> mripard: hi, I just wanted to know if CSI clock driver gets in this merge window or not
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<lennyraposo> man building images is slow going
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<lennyraposo> 2 images down
<lennyraposo> 2 to go
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<juri_> Andy-D: Y0!
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<Andy-D> 'lo
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<klarrt> how stable will the allwinner support be in the future? Does anyone know?
<plaes> what do you mean by support?
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<klarrt> well, updates if there's bugs for example
<plaes> you mean kernel bugs?
<plaes> or silicon bugs?
<klarrt> yeah
<plaes> I can guess it will be quite stable :)
<klarrt> the raspberry pi seems more stable for business
<apritzel> plaes: stable as in "does not change anymore"? ;-)
<plaes> ...mainly because they are not involved in mainline work
<klarrt> but I don't know. That's why I'm asking here
<plaes> apritzel: yup :P
<apritzel> klarrt: if you use a mainline kernel, you get all the bug fixes for free
<apritzel> if you use some Allwinner provided Android kernel, you will probably be "stable" as in the above definition ;-)
<apritzel> klarrt: so that all depends on your particular board and use case
<klarrt> apritzel: thanks for the answer
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<klarrt> Well, I'm thinking about buying some boards for my business, and would like stability in the future
<klarrt> with updates for some userland utilities, and no kernel bugs
<apritzel> klarrt: depends on your use case
<klarrt> don't know how to write that in technical terms, but that the gist of it
<apritzel> if you are happy with what features the mainline kernel provides for you
<apritzel> if you are happy with a headless configuration or some basic 2D graphics acceleration, chances are mainline fits the bill
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<plaes> there's no 2D graphics acceleration yet
<plaes> framebuffer
<plaes> though, there is kernel modesetting driver in the works
<plaes> sponsored by C.H.I.P
<klarrt> yeah, thanks apritzel
<klarrt> i'm from bsd land originally, and usually things just works there
<klarrt> drivers, and what's in the release
<apritzel> plaes: I was thinking about fbturbo
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<plaes> it works on mainline?
<apritzel> plaes: doesn't it? I was under the impression ...
<apritzel> (depends on the board, obviously)
<plaes> IIRC, it relies on g2d
<apritzel> yeah, so for the A20 that should work, right?
<plaes> no, there's no driver for that
<apritzel> really? so you still need the dodgy AW kernel?
<apritzel> plaes: and does it really rely on g2d? Or is it optional?
<plaes> ssvb: ^^ ?
<plaes> dunno whether it works NEON-only
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<apritzel> plaes: I was under the impression, but then again all my graphics knowledge is both very limited and theoretical ;-)
<plaes> same here
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<ssvb> plaes: fbturbo works everywhere, but sometimes it can use additional hardware acceleration if it is provided by the kernel
<plaes> ah.. cool
<plaes> so on mainline, it's just using NEON
<ssvb> yes
* plaes will add it to wiki later...
<ssvb> in fact that's a VFP load-multiple instruction for uncached framebuffer readback, which helps because it can read 128 bytes in one go
<ssvb> AArch64 is a bit worse than old 32-bit ARM mode because they dropped support for such large load/store instructions :-)
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<zzeroo> plaes: Thank you! My touchscreen is no working. http://forum.lemaker.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=15482&page=1&extra=#pid92576
<plaes> how did you find the wake-gpio?
<zzeroo> From the old .fex file
<plaes> nice
<plaes> you should probably add this info in the post
<zzeroo> Yeah but the support was lenmaker like ugly. This was more a conversation with myself :) I think i post this i the sunxi-wiki or?
<plaes> well, most of us already know how to do it ;)
<zzeroo> Oh ok hehe ;)
<plaes> it's basic as: read pin info from fex -> add this to dts
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<nieuwbie> I tried to get through some of dt stuff but I don't get anything from there
<nieuwbie> what's that reg_dcdc2 all about?
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<lennyraposo> hey longsleep
<lennyraposo> nope
<lennyraposo> not here
<topi`> I have a temperature sensor that uses I2C bus, is there any easy way to access it from userspace on the Orange PI PC?
<topi`> like, a /sysfs interface or the like
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<lennyraposo> nieubie
<lennyraposo> are you goin gthrough device trees?
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<nieuwbie> yeah, actuallly trying to understand it so I can write dts for inet-3f
<lennyraposo> my understanding is that you can convert the dts that comes with the provided sources
<lennyraposo> dtb I mean
<lennyraposo> fdtdump
<lennyraposo> ;)
<plaes> no.. he has .fex and wants to convert it to dts
<lennyraposo> oh
<plaes> look up mmc info from fex, then see how other boards have defined the mmc part and convert the pins
<nieuwbie> Easy to say - I have problem with understanding what's all about really
<nieuwbie> Someone said that fex is similiar to dts - I wish to see where the similiarity is cause I ain't seeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing one
<plaes> fex contains logical blocks
<plaes> devicetree has similar blocks
<nieuwbie> plaes: How did you start the adventure with embedded systems?
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<Deskwizard> nieuwbie it took me a while to see it as well, dont worry about it
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<Amit_t_> Is power adapter slot on organe pi pc same as on cubietrack ?
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<nieuwbie> deskwizard: Yeah, loads of material to cover up
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<tkaiser> OMG, the new H3 based Banana Pi M2+ without programmable VDD_CPUX reaches 90¡C with not that heavy workloads even at the lowest configured clockspeed (648 MHz, no heatsink, ambient temp at 23¡C). Seems this is the first H3 SBC where killing CPU cores instead of throttling might be a good idea
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<megi> topi`: you need to enable i2c nodes in devicetree, then you will be avle to use /dev/i2c-# char devices to control devices on the i2c bus. you may also need to setup appropriate pin functions using pinctrl, if it's not done already in h3.dtsi
<megi> topi`: that's for the mainline kernel
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<tkaiser> ssvb: congrats, the new cpuburn-a7 version reliably turns BPi M2+ into a single core board :)
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<plaes> tkaiser: permanently?
<tkaiser> plaes: Will take longsleep's core-keeper service and implement it in Armbian. Otherwise the cores do not come back.
<tkaiser> Kind of fascinating. SinoVoip copies 99% of the board design from Xunlong and the one percent they did on their own... is crap.
<tkaiser> plaes: Normally a reboot is needed to bring the cores back
<tkaiser> plaes: And any unfortunate SinoVoip customers using their crappy OS images will most probably use a single core board nearly all the time: https://github.com/BPI-SINOVOIP/BPI-M2P-bsp/blob/master/sunxi-pack/chips/sun8iw7p1/configs/BPI_M2P_1080P/sys_config.fex#L415-L419
<topi`> megi: is this (enabling i2c nodes in dt) the reason why i2cdetect finds nothing even though I know the Camera module I have plugged in is interfaced via i2c?
<topi`> and these end up in dmesg:
<topi`> [26553.973084] sunxi_i2c_do_xfer()980 - [i2c1] incomplete xfer (status: 0x20, dev addr: 0x77)
<topi`> for all the dev addresses that i2cdetect is probing through
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<megi> topi`: are you using 3.4 kernel?
<topi`> Linux OrangePI 3.4.39-01-lobo #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Oct 25 14:46:41 CET 2015 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
<topi`> it seems so :(
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<topi`> this was the only kernel I actually got working on this damn OPi PC
<megi> if so, you may need to configure i2c in the fex file, it's called twi there, depending on which one you're using, H3 has 4 I2C interfaces, and one is disabled by default, i think
<tkaiser> topi`: Using Armbian?
<megi> topi`: or just try different i2c port
<megi> topi`: I've only used i2c on orange pi pc on mainline kernel, so I'll probably will not be of much help
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<topi`> tkaiser: I tried armbian, but that image didn't boot (nothing on HDMI) so I switched to this loboris image
<topi`> ok, anyone here with OPi PC? which image do I need to grab?
<topi`> it seems there is "official" Orange PI PC H3 there on armbian.com downloads now
<tkaiser> topi`: That was Armbian 5.04, HDMI worked later on but camera still doesn't. So I just wanted to save you some time. With loboris' 15.04 Ubuntu Mate image the camera works even if you don't detect it with i2cdetect
<topi`> at that time, there wasn't, and I was directed towards some alpha image
<topi`> tkaiser: yeah, I can confirm the camera works. So, if I want the camera, I cannot use mainline?
<topi`> I guess I need to put the i2c thermo on a different OPi PC then :)
<topi`> luckily I purchased 3 of those
<tkaiser> topi`: Since a few hours new patches exist that enhance quality/framerates: http://www.sistemasembarcados.org/2016/04/orange-pi-camera-with-v4l2loopback-vidcopy.html
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<topi`> oh, 800x600 is hardcoded to that original driver (gc2035)
<topi`> I also have some Banana PI's, maybe they're a better fit for testing the i2c thermo, since they run the 4.5 kernel
<topi`> I guess there's still a lot of work for the H3 mainlining?
<topi`> the A20 support seems to be pretty mature
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<mripard> slapin: not in its current form
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<topi`> is there any easy way to "port" an app that was made for RPi and using the bcm2835 library to drive SPI?
<slapin> mripard: what is a problem with it? (I just try to prepare for the future)
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<lennyraposo> hey apritzel
<lennyraposo> hey longsleep
<lennyraposo> doing some cleanup with images and script today
<lennyraposo> working on tutorials too for pine users
<lennyraposo> ;)
<lennyraposo> will be adding to wiki's today tomorrow ;)
<jernej> tkaiser: Are you still interested in iperf3 results for OPi+ on mainline kernel?
<lennyraposo> also longsleep apritzel I have included downloads to your images on my server
<lennyraposo> and site I am working
<tkaiser> jernej: Sure :)
<lennyraposo> have provided credits to both ;)
<lennyraposo> 12 images downloaded and 21 rootfs builds downloaded thus far ;)
<lennyraposo> credits to you both*
<nieuwbie> lennyraposo: are you a pineuser yourself?
<lennyraposo> yep
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<jernej> tkaiser: Not sure what to include, so I put whole output http://pastebin.com/qaPg5wxw
<nieuwbie> do you know how is going with shippment in europe?
<lennyraposo> contributer/user/ and soon enough mainline dev
<lennyraposo> do not know
<lennyraposo> ther eis an update on kickstarter
<zuikis> topi`: yes, it is possible
<lennyraposo> update 35 gives details as to what is being shipped
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<zuikis> topi`: you probably want to use spidev. Though api won't be as nice as one bcm2835 library has
<jernej> tkaiser: Are you interested in anything else about network performance? Any comments? :)
<tkaiser> jernej: That's with 3.4.111 on Banana Pi M2+: 696 Mbits/sec in both directions simultaneously
<tkaiser> jernej: I'm interested in your changes of course :)
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<jernej> tkaiser: So for now a bit slower. You can find my voltage regulator patch on standard place (mainline branch) :)
<Amit_t_> Hello: Can cubietrack's power adapter be used with orange pi pc board?
<jernej> tkaiser: It is based on driver which doesn't have wens changes...
<tkaiser> jernej: Thanks, will have a look later into it
<Amit_t_> Could any one please look into my query ?
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<tkaiser> Amit_t_: yes, same dimensions
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<Amit_t_> ok Thanks
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<NiteHawk> tkaiser: does the "M2+ product page" link (http://www.banana-pi.org/m2plus.html) work for you? i'm getting http://isup.me/banana-pi.org
<NiteHawk> ah, nevermind - you have to use www.banana-pi.org - and seems it's just horribly unreliable...
<tkaiser> NiteHawk: Unreliable? You mean SinoVoip? ;)
<NiteHawk> naaah... can't be :D
<NiteHawk> maybe we should swap it with the bananapi.com link i added at the bottom - that one seems a bit more responsive
<tkaiser> NiteHawk: Strange, both sites are now hosted somewhere @ Amazon. And I don't care at all whether their product pages are accessible or not (better)
<NiteHawk> tkaiser: true. they should learn to get their sh** straight - just not gonna happen, probably
<longsleep> lennyraposo: i usually read the backlog, so just write and i might eventually reply
<lennyraposo> no worries mate
<lennyraposo> I figured as much
<lennyraposo> btw
<lennyraposo> gonna try my hand at 720p image build
<lennyraposo> soome people are not running 1080p in some instances
<lennyraposo> I guess the idela thing would be to get somethign that works with multiple resolutions
<lennyraposo> I emailed tllim about getting supported video modes
<lennyraposo> up to the 4k spec
<lennyraposo> seeing as he will be in asia soon ;)
<lennyraposo> and asked abotu boot0 once again
<longsleep> lennyraposo: yeah well, it should be possible to change the resolution after u-boot
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<lennyraposo> I will play with it tonight
<lennyraposo> will test fbset
<lennyraposo> and get xorg to play nice ;)
<longsleep> lennyraposo: i am pretty happy with the 2GB model, it works nice and fast, started backporting zswap and zram to the Kernel. After that i will do Ubuntu Snappy 16.04.
<lennyraposo> nice
<lennyraposo> peopel are reporting network perforamnce issues
<lennyraposo> btu I am pondering if they are using your latest image
<longsleep> lennyraposo: yeah, cannot confirm that just posted some stats in the forum
<longsleep> lennyraposo: well, the NIC seems to be picky about switches and after all the driver is total crap as well
<lennyraposo> should be working liek the 1gb model
<lennyraposo> could be just that
<lennyraposo> I have had no issues one my tester here
<lennyraposo> the audio issue is bothering me
<lennyraposo> as everything plays from teh link you gave me
<longsleep> ok, thats a start
<lennyraposo> but no matter what I do config wise to alsa it never ssticks
<longsleep> then try mplayer via pulse
<lennyraposo> been using pulse for playback ;)
<longsleep> ok good
<lennyraposo> lsiteniign to mp3s without issue
<lennyraposo> but I have to got to alsamixer and set the card to sndhdmi after every reboot
<lennyraposo> it's the weirdest thing
<longsleep> mhm, /etc/asound.conf should do the trick
<lennyraposo> did that
<lennyraposo> set to primary device to card 1 and card 0 as fallback ;)
<longsleep> well, might be a bug in Xenial as well, after all its not released yet
<lennyraposo> same goes for Jessie
<lennyraposo> I am certain it's alsa in this case
<longsleep> mhm ok
<lennyraposo> or perhaps
* longsleep is afk for a couple of hours
<lennyraposo> take care mate
<lennyraposo> gonna try blacklisting next
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<mripard> slapin: we had a bunch of comments that have not been adressed yet
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<oneinsect> friends
<oneinsect> Can someone please guide me on how to make Allwinner h3 kernel + uboot with custom modloop
<oneinsect> i am trying to boot alpine linux generic arm image
<oneinsect> on nanopi m1
<jelle> huh is the nanopi an orange pi one but different!
<jelle> it does have more features
<jelle> oneinsect: there does not seem to be anything on the sunxi wiki about it, so you could add an entry
<oneinsect> nanopi m1 is same as (almost) orange pi one
<oneinsect> well i can add an entry jelle:
<oneinsect> but i need to understand how to first do it
<oneinsect> any ideas?
<oneinsect> i want to boot alpine linux on orange pi one or nanopi m1
<jelle> oneinsect: use the orange pi pc config from u-boot and the then get all the mainline H3 kernel patches + the orange pi pc dts file and compile a kernel
<oneinsect> seems i need a h3 kernel (mainline) + h3 uboot (mainline) and somehow tie to the userspace of alpine linux
<jelle> yes
<lennyraposo> looks like fbset can be used ;)
<oneinsect> great so I can use armbian for it...since it helps me compile them both...where I am lost is after compile mainline h3 with dts...
<oneinsect> how do i tie the alpine linux rootfs to it?
<oneinsect> it uses a strange vmlinuz + initramfs + modloop
<jelle> I don't have a clue how normal alpine images look like
<jelle> kinda suprised alpine has arm
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<oneinsect> can you take a look and suggest? http://www.alpinelinux.org/downloads/ they are basically using vmlinuz (kernel) with some initramfs config and boot into tmpfs
<oneinsect> basically everything is RAM only
<jelle> oh then I have less of a clue
<oneinsect> hmmm
<oneinsect> jelle:
<oneinsect> boot sequence would typically -> uboot -> kernel and uboot would then load kernel+initramfs+dtb
<oneinsect> thats for a typical alpine linux arm port
<jelle> I just dump a zImage / dtbs files and a boot.scr
<jelle> for my arch mainline images
<oneinsect> hmm well i can even go without alpine linux but the main requirement it to run it in live mode (and not to make it write to sdcard)
<oneinsect> it that possible
<oneinsect> with arch?
<jelle> well everything is possible with every distro right?
<oneinsect> hmmm
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<tkaiser> oneinsect: Do you already have the NanoPi?
<oneinsect> yess
<oneinsect> Nanopi m1
<tkaiser> oneinsect: Does it have GbE or Fast Ethernet?
<oneinsect> fast ethernet tkaiser:
<plaes> o_O
<tkaiser> Ok, then it's exactly like Orange Pi PC with less RAM
<plaes> pretty impressive wiki
<oneinsect> but seems the build quality of PCB is slightly better than orange pi one
<tkaiser> plaes: Yes, they're good in documenting stuff
<plaes> ooh.. H3 v1.2 datasheet
<tkaiser> plaes: They also use a newer BSP kernel, they obviously got from Allwinner
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<tkaiser> plaes: I already uploaded their datasheet to our wiki ;)
<plaes> nevermind.. we have 1.2 already in wiki
<plaes> thx
<oneinsect> but they are very responsive
<oneinsect> better than orangepi guys
<tkaiser> oneinsect: Unfortunately they did the same as SinoVoip and use no programmable voltage regulator. Therefore good luck with overheating.
<oneinsect> hmmm
<oneinsect> i have a 3-axis cnc at work here
<jelle> tkaiser: this is better then the orange pi one though if the price is right
<oneinsect> so i can machine a heatsink
<oneinsect> but yes
<oneinsect> no VR
<tkaiser> jelle: Check the shipping costs first. You have to order +50
<jelle> tkaiser: lol
<oneinsect> correct
* jelle has accumalated enough arm devices to hack on already
<buZz> neverrrr
<buZz> does allwinner have a ARMv8 yet?
<jelle> buZz: ok maybe you are right :p
<buZz> )
<buZz> i want more ARMv8 devices, ones that can actually run at 64bit
<buZz> not this shitty pi3 nonsense
* NiteHawk pokes plaes
<oneinsect> very few arm devices have mainline support at these price points
<plaes> yea?
<NiteHawk> plaes: since you've admin rights - mind nuking http://linux-sunxi.org/User_talk:NiteHawk ? that page is no longer used/needed
<plaes> how can I assume it's your page? :)
<NiteHawk> hmmmm
<NiteHawk> no idea :)
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<pleas> :D
<oneinsect> tkaiser:
<N1teHawk> done
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<oneinsect> is there a way we can run alpine linux on orange pi?
<NiteHawk> thx!
<oneinsect> somebody named ernierasta seems to have run it successfully
<oneinsect> search for ernierasta
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<buZz> oneinsect: i dont really care about pricepoint :P
<buZz> is there any 'omg expensive' armv8 board that can actually run aarm64 ?
<tkaiser> buZz: Do you really ask this question? Pine64?
<plaes> snapdragon ones?
<tkaiser> oneinsect: No idea. I did not even know that something like Alpine Linux exists
<oneinsect> lol
<jelle> it comes with a lot of musl(ce) :p
<oneinsect> well i have been running it on r-pi for over 2 years with out a single sd card crash over 100 units
<oneinsect> i like its design...it doesnt touch the sdcard
<oneinsect> works from ram only
<oneinsect> debian crashes at time during power recycles
<oneinsect> or some random reboots
<oneinsect> during*
<tkaiser> oneinsect: Sorry, but that's wrong. 95% of all complaints about 'Armbian' being slow or crashing are related to crappy PSUs and crappy SD cards
<oneinsect> correct
<buZz> tkaiser: ah cool, didnt see mentioned anywhere that they had 64bit userlands and kernels for it
<oneinsect> i dont blame deb...i love it...but i have no control over sd card quality
<oneinsect> especially at the places i live where electricity is hard to come by
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<tkaiser> IgorPec: Tried to boot BPi M2+ with 4.6.0-rc1 and now I run also in 'your' problem. Crashes in u-boot when detecting 'USB0' :(
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<oneinsect> did you try rc2?
<NiteHawk> tkaiser: is that U-Boot 2016.03?
<IgorPec> tkaiser: hmm, i could not find the reason
<tkaiser> NiteHawk: Yes, worked on Saturday though
<NiteHawk> are you aware of http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-April/250372.html and the corresponding patch/fix?
<NiteHawk> it's already applied to u-boot-usb.git, but not to the master branch afaik
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<tkaiser> NiteHawk: Thx, looks exactly like 'my' problem :)
<NiteHawk> sometimes you have to be reminded why it's called "bleeding edge" :D
<tkaiser> jernej: reg-fixed-voltage gmac-3v3: could not find pctldev for node /soc/pinctrl@01c20800/gmac_power_pin@0, deferring probe
<tkaiser> jernej: gmac-3v3: disabling
<tkaiser> So I messed up patching obviously :)
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<jernej_> tkaiser: did you check that you have gmac_power_pin_orangepi node in pio?
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<slapin> mripard: thanks
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<tkaiser> jernej: Will have a look tomorrow. Thx
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