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<lvrp16> wow a83t is destroying the c2
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<willmore> lvrp16, link?
<lvrp16> i was prepping a performance review
<lvrp16> and benching all the boards
<willmore> What board have that chip?
<willmore> bananna pi m3
<willmore> I can read!
<willmore> Not so hot on Himeno. But that benchmark is completely messed up. They're using an old version that doesn't support threading.
<willmore> 8 A7's at 2GHz--if they don't throttle a ton--should be able to do well on highly threaded workloads.
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<willmore> Wow, the linux-sunxi wiki does not take kindly to that board.
<lvrp16> hehe everything has its upsides and downside
<lvrp16> the image support is still garbage
<lvrp16> they freaking amount it with aufs ffs
<willmore> How much are they?
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<wens> you can also try cubietruck plus
<wens> imho it is a better design
<wens> bbrezillon: lots of patches!
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<lennyraposo> great for web farms
<lennyraposo> ;)
<lvrp16> lennyraposo: the cubietrucks or the m3? or something else?
<lennyraposo> threaded worloads
<lvrp16> the 8 cores?
<lennyraposo> yep
<lennyraposo> woudl be enough for a small apache/nginx server
<lvrp16> yeah it's rivaling the nvidia tx1 in many benchies
<lvrp16> which is amazing because thats an a57 design with much beefier IO
<lennyraposo> well
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<lennyraposo> that is a surprise
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<Amit_T> montjoie: Sorry to bother you. As per your patch for dts, emac register range is given as reg = <0x01c30000 0x1054>; but its 64k region which should be written as reg = <0x01c30000 0x10000>; (Sorry if I am commenting on your older patch)
<wens> i see no particular good reason to map such a large address range though
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<wens> a) the defined registers are in 0x0 ~ 0xd3
<wens> b) the whole first 0x1000 is repeated again @ 0x01c31000
<wens> c) after 0x01c32000 it's just garbage
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<montjoie> Amit_T: wens I has made a bad calculation, fixing it
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<montjoie> I will update my github this afternoon
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<montjoie> I have tried to reboot my opipc but it is stuck after "system is rebooting" message (with or without FEL and uart that i tried in case of power leak)
<montjoie> does for reboot I need something ? like power control (AXP ?)
<wens> watchdog should be enough
<wens> SUNXI_WATCHDOG
<montjoie> no way without watchdog ?
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<lennyraposo> hate the price point comparisons
<lennyraposo> lol
<lvrp16> similar results
<lvrp16> tkaiser: why's ur armbian m3 results so bad?
<lvrp16> tkaiser: for jtr
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<tkaiser> lvrp16: Nope ;) Since in 'my' test there is Banana Pi M3 four times. Everytime different results. That was just the JTR test where I disabled all optimisations.
<tkaiser> The whole PTS is just a joke
<lvrp16> it can't really account for cooling. i wouldn't go so far as to call pts a joke.
<tkaiser> lvrp16: For modern SoCs it is since throttling isn't taken into account. So the numbers are meaningless anyway. Since when I'm asking for performance and start to look at benchmark it can be suspected that heat dissipation will be improved when it's about number crunching
<lvrp16> tkaiser: michael already has modules for monitoring throttling but since pts is software, it can only report throttling
<lvrp16> tkaiser: instead of physically fixing throttling, i think he has some code that enables temperature to cool between runs if you provide the sensor and thresholds to use
<lvrp16> to minimize variation between runs
<lvrp16> i do agree that it plays an important part
<tkaiser> lvrp16: The methodology is weird. The SmallPt thingie runs totally unoptimized and takes ages. When there's variation detected then the run will be repeated. And again and again. So on every fast board this stupid crap runs over an hour. For what? That's all just about producing huge amounts of meaningsless numbers
<lvrp16> haha true
<lvrp16> i took me like 3 days to benchmark 6 boards
<lvrp16> that smallpt was a pita
<tkaiser> lvrp16: Then the benchmark is wrong. Since it should produce results in a minimum amount of time. And the whole comparisons are useless. You can use benchmarks to optimise software/settings (like we did with Pine64 -- benchmark results improved by constantly optimising just thermal and cpufreq settings)
<lvrp16> my numbers are all heatsinked and actively cooled with no throttling
<tkaiser> lvrp16: But why was my M3 then faster as yours?
<lvrp16> PTS is more reflective of an out of the box experience
<lvrp16> i'm using Banana Pi's crappy OS image
<lvrp16> the one where they use aufs
<lvrp16> with ubuntu mate
<lvrp16> all of my benchmarks are basically out of the box performance. i didn't tune anything
<tkaiser> lvrp16: And if you would use the fex I used then your benchmark results (the multithreaded ones) would improve by 10% -- funny, isn't it? You benchmarking settings not hardware
<lvrp16> tkaiser: but thats all it is...settings...even on intel boards. what is overclocking? it's tuning software settings that affect hardware behavior. there's no fine line
<lvrp16> takiser: are you using the 2ghz fex?
<tkaiser> Of course and therefore the whole huge collection of meaningless numbers should be ignored. But people love comparing numbers...
<tkaiser> lvrp16: With 2 GHz the small fan I used couldn't cope with. So I limited maximum clockspeed to 1.8Ghz and am still 10% faster than you with SinoVoip defaults :)
<lvrp16> tkaiser: numbers give people a general idea. of course they have to do their specific benchmarks on their own scenario.
<lvrp16> tkaiser: i use to work on Cell BE and everyone compare stupid numbers of x86 vs cell. but they didn't know that Cell BE design can do linear performance growth to 100+ cores
<lvrp16> tkaiser: it's just how people perceive things...
<tkaiser> lvrp16: True, but these numbers are still useless. If you want to do number crunching you use optimized software with all compiler optimizations. So PTS scores tell the wrong story.
<maz> lies, damn lies, and benchmarks.
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<lvrp16> statistics, benchmarks, poll results
<lvrp16> all lies
<tkaiser> If you search for an SBC to watch video all the numbers there are meaningless since RPi 3 looks faster than OPi One but the latter will decode HEVC HW accelerated while the former needs already overclocking and liquid cooling for the same task
<lvrp16> hehe also the A7 is a hell of a lot cooler than the A53...A53 generates like 50-75% more heat doing the same work
<lvrp16> tkaiser: it's all about marketing...i'm working on the marketing right now
<lvrp16> tkaiser: communication is as important as engineering
<tkaiser> lvrp16: So time for you to found a mythical Orange Pi foundation?
<lvrp16> tkaiser: I don't care about any specific board manufacturer. I just want them cheap so students can learn with them.
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<lvrp16> tkaiser: The Raspberry Pi Foundation works with PF. I think PF's overhead it too high and price out a lot of students.
<lvrp16> they spend millions of dollars on a crappy website
<lvrp16> not really efficient. i'm all about efficiency.
<lvrp16> plus the resellers right now are all just profiteers...
<lvrp16> they provide crap support and overcharge out the ass
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<lvrp16> i forced them to drop pi 3's price by $15 USD...
<tkaiser> lvrp16: Interesting. I wouldn't buy it at its current price though ;)
<lvrp16> yeah the price is too high...PF needs to pad their margins.
<lvrp16> for their "community" websites.
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<lennyraposo> the pis can be overpriced
<lennyraposo> it's a scalpers market so to speak
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<mane> what do you think about the pine64 guys?
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<lennyraposo> so so
<lennyraposo> thus far
<lennyraposo> mainline is a WIP for the pine guys
<lennyraposo> there is potential like naythign else
<lennyraposo> anything*
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<mane> lennyraposo: thank you
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<alain> out of curiosity, can someone with a pine64 post the results of a 'openssl speed rsa2048 -multi 4' run ?
<lennyraposo> at teh very least longsleep has put together a nice BSP release
<lennyraposo> my pine is tied up for the moment but I wouldbe happy to do so after
<lennyraposo> building debian images
<lennyraposo> various desktop environments
<alain> thanks :) as a reference I get 127.7 sign/s and 4720.3 verify/s out of a H3 based Orange Pi Plus
<alain> just wondering how much faster the pine64 is
<lennyraposo> what does the rpi3 get
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<lennyraposo> hey longsleep
<lennyraposo> are you about mate?
<longsleep> lennyraposo: sure
<lennyraposo> wanted to ask abotu your build scripts
<lennyraposo> wanna make sure I am doing things in the proper manner
<longsleep> did not read any back log sorry
<lennyraposo> np worries
<lennyraposo> clone build repo
<lennyraposo> then within that folder
<longsleep> build repo? sorry you lost me
<lennyraposo> clone all the required repos
<lennyraposo> pm
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<longsleep> lennyraposo: i would always start with uboot
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<tkaiser> longsleep: Pine64 booted with SanDisk Extreme Plus inserted? :)
<longsleep> tkaiser: Sorry, i was so busy did not find the time yet :/
<tkaiser> np
<longsleep> lennyraposo: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/15569827/ on some file - this works for me, but i guess it does not for you
<longsleep> lennyraposo: no go with 2.20.1 on trusty, but fine with 2.26.2 on wily
<lennyraposo> debian jessie here ;)
<lennyraposo> but i have a buntu box in house so I cna do it from there
<longsleep> lennyraposo: i guess i can change the script to use fdisk
<tkaiser> longsleep: LOL, lala.img -- I also use lala.sh, lala.txt all the time ;)
<longsleep> heh yeah me too
<lennyraposo> I tend to write curse words myself
<lennyraposo> lol
<longsleep> lennyraposo: i change the script to use fdisk later tonight to avoid compatibility issues with sfdisk older versions
<lennyraposo> np
<lennyraposo> I just trying it out for now
<lennyraposo> making a detailed write up
<longsleep> lennyraposo: what about mkfs.ext4? that works without prompt for you for a raw file?
<lennyraposo> and tehn making a 1 scritp does all ordeal ;)
<lennyraposo> it works fine
<lennyraposo> under sudo
<longsleep> on tusty it warns
<longsleep> + mkfs.ext4 -b 4096 -E stride=2,stripe-width=1024 -L rootfs lala.img2
<longsleep> mke2fs 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014)
<longsleep> lala.img2 is not a block special device.
<longsleep> Proceed anyway? (y,n)
<longsleep> thats bad as well :/
<longsleep> everybody should use xenial or at least wily if you ask me :P
<lennyraposo> me likey debian stock ;)
<longsleep> too old everything :)
<lennyraposo> but stable ;)
<lennyraposo> did they remove all that privacy bs in latest lts?
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<longsleep> lennyraposo: privacy bs?
<lennyraposo> well remember the hoopla about 12.04 and up
<lennyraposo> teh search results with unity
<longsleep> not sure what you mean
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<longsleep> ah well, sure you can easily disable everything. Defaults might be crappy yes
<longsleep> i do not care overly much about defaults :)
<lennyraposo> liek I alwasy did
<lennyraposo> and dsiabled that guest account
<lennyraposo> I actually like unity
<lennyraposo> the shortcuts are handy
<lennyraposo> mate works for me too
<tkaiser> lennyraposo: Do you want to provide a 'GUI image' based on trusty?
<longsleep> i am a hardcore unity user, cannot use any other desktop any more
<lennyraposo> I can do that tkaiser
<longsleep> tkaiser: only when sound works without issues
<lennyraposo> was gonna fulfill a need for debain fisrt
<lennyraposo> for those who are nto as savvy as most
<longsleep> tkaiser: i started a install_mate_desktop.sh script which does it all automatically on the minimal image
<lennyraposo> three gui images I am working on
<lennyraposo> Mate
<lennyraposo> LXDE and XFCE
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<lennyraposo> wanna remove the pengiuns at start ;)
<lennyraposo> substitute with say a pine Logo
<lennyraposo> or just nothing at all
<lennyraposo> btw
<longsleep> lennyraposo: the penguins are generated by the Kernel, one per core
<lennyraposo> yes
<lennyraposo> but you can disable ;)
<longsleep> sure, i enabled it so everyone can see SMP is working
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<tkaiser> longsleep: Your image is based on Xenial. When we NOOBs at Armbian tried to enable this whole GUI stuff (Mali/Cedrus) dropping Wheezy/Thrusty was the first idea since we ended up in a dependency hell
<lennyraposo> but this is BSP ;)
<lennyraposo> mainline I am sure we won't be goign that route
<longsleep> tkaiser: what dependencies exactly?
<lennyraposo> cedrus I would be guessing
<longsleep> tkaiser: the problem with mali X11 is that the mali-drm module is too old even for Kernel 3.10
<lennyraposo> let's see what Ripard ahs to say on the 4th
<lennyraposo> "The work done to make the ARM Mali OpenGL driver work on top of a mainline DRM/KMS driver will also be detailed."
<lennyraposo> OpenIoT
<longsleep> tkaiser, lennyraposo see http://paste.ubuntu.com/15569984/ for my early mate desktop install script, it needs my Pine64 ppa from https://launchpad.net/~longsleep/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntu-pine64-flavour-makers
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<tkaiser> longsleep: Don't remember exactly but one of us built a few debs (mpv, libdri2 and so on) and said he refuses to support anything else than Jessie/Xenial (but that was sun7i and sun8i)
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<tkaiser> longsleep: CUPS?
<longsleep> tkaiser: yeah, the whatever package loads parport_pc from that file - does not exist on arm
<tkaiser> longsleep: Funny
<longsleep> tkaiser: so i just kill the file, not loading lp, ppdev and parport_pc modules on boot
<tkaiser> parport_pc is even more funny on ARM :)
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<longsleep> tkaiser: but as i said before, there is a serious issue with pulseaudio and the sound driver
<lennyraposo> with mp3
<longsleep> tkaiser: stuttering, buffer underrun etc, something is wrong there and i was not able to figure it out
<longsleep> lennyraposo: with everything
<longsleep> tkaiser: and i have already changed the Kernel with the last update to allow pulse to run with realtime priority and all, that was not it
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<tkaiser> longsleep: I almost never do any desktop stuff with ARM boards. Built an Armbian image for A20 maybe two weeks ago (with Cedrus/Mali stuff active) and then tried out a H.264 movie out of curiosity. It played and I was really shocked since I was not aware that my display has speakers and played the movie's sound horribly loud. I did not even realize that it's possible to route Audio through HDMI :)
<lennyraposo> wonder hwo it would handle a usb sound device?
<longsleep> lennyraposo: good idea, if that works better then its the sound driver
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<lennyraposo> oh
<lennyraposo> kewl
<lennyraposo> I iwll order one in
<longsleep> lennyraposo: just checked, it works on trusty now so you should be good as well
<tkaiser> longsleep: And what about the 2GB Ethernet fix?!?!11!!
<longsleep> tkaiser: well, no idea - i haz no such board yet
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<tkaiser> longsleep: I found it interesting that one of the users reported with Arch (?) Linux recognized only 1 GB DRAM and the crash doesn't happen
<longsleep> tkaiser: yeah thats strange too - i just assume he has a 1GB version for now :)
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<tkaiser> IIRC he said, using Xenial plugging in Ethernet broke everything after 5 seconds
<lennyraposo> I have 1gb model
<lennyraposo> I have 2 2gb on order
<lennyraposo> and 4 more 1gb
<lennyraposo> and 1 512mb
<longsleep> tkaiser: I can only guess that the memory settings would need to change for 2GB model, for now i suggest to wait until Pine64 release fixed android image
<tkaiser> longsleep: Sure, and they should start to communicate a bit more regarding state of software and the many 'boot' issues their users face (often wasting hours according to forum posts)
<willmore> alain, FWIW the C2 gives: 303.7 11697.4
<tkaiser> willmore: How long does this test run?
<longsleep> tkaiser: yeah thats true, but i think they have a huge backlog already as well
<willmore> tkaiser, under a minute or so.
<willmore> Need any tests run?
<longsleep> tkaiser: my best guess is that in the device tree, the dram section needs tweaks or changes for the 2GB version
<tkaiser> willmore: No thx, not necessary (benchmarks running less than 10 min. aren't worth a look since throttling can not jump in ;) )
<willmore> tkaiser, no throttling on the C2, so that's not a factor.
<tkaiser> longsleep: At least with H3 and same DRAM type used on the Orange Pis there's no difference between OPi One with 512MB and Plus 2 (or whatever crazy name Steven chose) with 2GB
<tkaiser> willmore: I know, C2 is nearly throttling immune with the huge heatsink
<longsleep> tkaiser: yeah, the whatever settings required for 2GB can most likely be used with 1GB and 512MB models as well
<longsleep> willmore, tkaiser: I aggree on that, i was not able to make the C2 throttle so far even with the default heat sink
<willmore> tkaiser, yep. If you put it in a box and allowed no ventilation, it'll throttle like anything is, that's just thermodynamics, can't beat that. :) But, if you have it in open space, convection is enough. I'm going to try it with some forced air to see what that does--did wonders to the H3 on my Opi1.
<longsleep> C2 is US$40, how much is the Pine64 2GB?
<tkaiser> longsleep: How much is shipping? ;)
<longsleep> tkaiser: they ship for free if you order 50 or 100
<willmore> That's handy. :)
<tkaiser> longsleep: I know, different story. But the cheapest C2 you get in Europe is 50Û (pollin.de) isn't it? With 5Û on top for shipping
<lennyraposo> gonna test it out longsleep
<lennyraposo> got 30 minutes till my kids get home :S
<longsleep> tkaiser: i always order from Korea, stuff gets here faster than from Pollin most of the time
<longsleep> tkaiser: pollin currently hast a c2 discount, 49.95 EUR
<longsleep> plus 4.95 EUR shipping
<willmore> The next batch of C2 will be shipping on 4/22
<tkaiser> longsleep: Yes, the '12 months per year' discount. I ordered a S905 TV box on gearbest recently for half the price and won't try out C2. Since it's only about playing a bit around with S905
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<longsleep> tkaiser: the thing is, i can buy a RPi3 just around the corner whenever needed
<longsleep> tkaiser: if C2 would available like that .. who would buy anything else
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<willmore> I wish I could get any boards 'around the corner'. And I have a Fry's! They just don't stock anything useful and when they do, it's more expensive than ordering it mail order.
<tkaiser> longsleep: Me ;) I'm still waiting for an A20 successor with 4 A7 cores. It's all about I/O and network bandwidth :)
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<longsleep> tkaiser: yeah, well if Allwinner Tech would do mainlining .. dreams
<tkaiser> longsleep: A20 and mainline kernel? A dream thx to the guys here...
<willmore> ^^^^
<tkaiser> According to Olimex' Tsvetan they will produce a pin compatible A20 successor in the 2nd half of 2016
<lennyraposo> I do not see why not
<lennyraposo> it would be in their best interests one would think
<lennyraposo> mainlining
<lvrp16> is there any effort to fund mainlining?
<tkaiser> lvrp16: Asking about A13/R8? ;)
<lvrp16> you mean the free-e work?
<tkaiser> montjoie: Thx!
<tkaiser> lvrp16: Yes
<lvrp16> who and how much funding does free-e have for that project?
<lvrp16> outside of kickstarter
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<lennyraposo> free-e?
<lvrp16> free electron
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<lennyraposo> oh
<lvrp16> i don't know how much of that kickstarter campaign is used to fund free e
<lvrp16> would love to know some numbers ;)
<lennyraposo> eww
<lennyraposo> ugly site
<lennyraposo> lol
<lennyraposo> presentation means alot
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<lvrp16> yes...marketing...
<lvrp16> 2m for a r8...
<lvrp16> when orange pi one is shipping
<lennyraposo> man
<lennyraposo> they didn't even move wp-admin from it's standard location
<lvrp16> it's basically an art contest
<lvrp16> who can make a better film/presentation
<lvrp16> vs actual engineering
<lvrp16> and production
<nove> what is delaying mainlining work is not the non-existence of funding, but the "license issues"
<lennyraposo> yes
<lennyraposo> agreed
<tkaiser> lennyraposo: Well, customers searching for the 'service' free-electrons provide might not check fancy websites but kernel commit logs instead.
<lennyraposo> understood
<lennyraposo> btw
<mripard_> nove: the "license issues" just slows down things, there's nothing you can't work around with enough time spent on it
<lennyraposo> longsleep
<mripard_> and funding help
<mripard_> a lot
<lennyraposo> new script now worky under debian jessie
<mripard_> tkaiser: yeah, we prefer to hack on kernel instead of CSS
<mripard_> (and you really don't want to see my CSS skills...)
<lennyraposo> 20 years of web dev under my belt ;)
<lennyraposo> a lot of NDAs and Do Not Compete's signed
<lennyraposo> lol
<lennyraposo> php python html html5 css webgl javascript perl mysql postgresql mssql (ugh) java (ugh)
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<mripard_> lennyraposo: and not ASP.NET ? :)
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<lennyraposo> I do
<lennyraposo> left that boat years ago
<lennyraposo> you guys need somethign done?
<lennyraposo> oops
<lennyraposo> I meant earlier no* worky under jessie
<lennyraposo> but ti's ok
<nove> mripard_: agreed, even if there is no source, no documentation, everything can be just reverse-engineered, only that the existence of "license issues" removes all the fun
<lennyraposo> wow a lot changes ot ms's .net
<lennyraposo> still
<lennyraposo> no likey
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<longsleep> longsleep: ok good, thanks for confirming
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<lennyraposo> I cna always make a script to write to the card
<longsleep> lennyraposo: wait, it stil does not work?
<lennyraposo> just ask for dev selection is all ;)
<lennyraposo> no work under jessie
<longsleep> lennyraposo: error?
<lennyraposo> Select (default p): Partition number (2-4, default 2): First sector (2048-8388607, default 2048): Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G,T,P} (143360-8388607, default 8388607): Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G,T,P} (143360-8388607, default 8388607): Value out of range.
<lennyraposo> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G,T,P} (143360-8388607, default 8388607): Value out of range.
<lennyraposo> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G,T,P} (143360-8388607, default 8388607): Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G,T,P} (143360-8388607, default 8388607):
<lennyraposo> Do you really want to quit? + cleanup
<lennyraposo> + rm -rf /tmp/tmp.lACKTpODdE
<lennyraposo> + [ -d /tmp/tmp.lACKTpODdE ]
<longsleep> uhm
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<lennyraposo> Value out of range
<lennyraposo> ;)
<longsleep> how large did you make the image?
<lennyraposo> 4gb
<lennyraposo> 4096
<longsleep> you should make it smaller, that will not fit on a 4GB card, but thats not the issue here
<lennyraposo> will do 2048
<longsleep> can you paste fdisk -h
<lennyraposo> 2.25.2
<lennyraposo> v ;)
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<lennyraposo> I will do it in ubuntu
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<longsleep> lennyraposo: that error is strange, i do not get why the end of the second partition would be out of range, it uses the default
<longsleep> lennyraposo: can you post the full output to paste.ubuntu.com please so i can look more closely
<lvrp16> lenny, how are you feeding fdisk?
<lennyraposo> from longsleeps script
<lennyraposo> that time it was with 1024
<longsleep> mhm that fdisk of yours is strange
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<lvrp16> did you use o before everything?
<longsleep> yes
<longsleep> it works fine on wily / with newer fdisk
<lvrp16> yeah there's like a dozen different versions of fdisk
<lvrp16> i always target one distribution for every fdisk input i write
<lennyraposo> it's inux-utils from jessie stock
<lvrp16> version?
<lennyraposo> 2.25.2
<lvrp16> fdisk -v
<longsleep> i have 2.26.2 on wily where it works
<lennyraposo> I am reading a lot of issues with 2.25
<lennyraposo> 2.26 works
<lvrp16> add a line to the script "bash" then try to go through fdisk manually
<longsleep> but why
<lvrp16> oh ok
<lennyraposo> I dunno
<lvrp16> link to the original script?
<lennyraposo> I iwll run it on xenial
<longsleep> i mean, his sfdisk also did not work so the change is rather pointless to now use fdisk and still does not work :)
<lennyraposo> ya
<lennyraposo> disclaimer
<lennyraposo> jessie
<lennyraposo> sfdisk or fdisk (utils linux 2.25) will not work
<lennyraposo> ;)
<longsleep> i see, i can try parted :P
<longsleep> it even works on trusty with 2.20.1 ...
<lennyraposo> shoudl work in parted
<lennyraposo> v3.2
<tkaiser> longsleep: is it about resizing an already mounted partition or not?
<longsleep> tkaiser: no, its about creating the partition table for a new image
<tkaiser> Ok, then parted might work. But a few days ago I tried to resize mounted partitions just to realize that parted's behaviour depends a lot on the version used (so I reverted to fdisk which I really hate)
<lennyraposo> anyone else running jessie in here?
<tkaiser> lennyraposo: If you want to deal with Allwinner's BSP crap then go with either Ubuntu 14.04 or 16.04 on the build host. Less hassles
<lennyraposo> that's what I will be doing
<longsleep> lennyraposo: i pushed another change, maybe it works now
<lennyraposo> trying now
<willmore> lennyraposo, I am running jessie on an Opi1
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<lennyraposo> no no
<longsleep> well, then i consider this fdisk officially broken :)
<willmore> lennyraposo, did you need something done on a jessie system?
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<lennyraposo> nope
<lennyraposo> a script longsleep has doesn't work for some reason under jessie
<lennyraposo> to do with partitions ;)
<lennyraposo> in img generation
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<jernej> montjoie: Your updated driver seems to work nicely on OPi2. Any advice what to add to OPi+ dts to enable it?
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<alain> willmore: thanks for the openssl run, impressive figure for the C2. Makes me regret buying the OPI Plus :)
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<lennyraposo> is it running mainline ?
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<alain> jernej: please report any success, I've been trying as well but faced issue having the external PHY detected
<alain> jernej: you can try with the following entry in your DTS file http://pastebin.com/raw/hqrVZPCS
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<jernej> alain: Thanks, unfortunately it will have to wait a day or two.
<agraf> longsleep: howdy, still around?
<alain> don't get your hopes high anyway, as of yesterday it didn't work
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<willmore> lennyraposo, the C2? Nope, but they're working on it--like everyone else. :)
<alain> the progress made in terms of performance / price over the last year are amazing
<jernej> alain: I could not wait :) Could you help me with "emac_pins_a" not defined?
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<alain> hmmm the name changed
<jernej> ok, I found it: emac_rgmii_pins
<lennyraposo> good to know willmore
<alain> jernej : there was also a question of whether to use reg = <1>; or 0
<jernej> alain: What is the meaning of either option?
<alain> no clue, just know that when discussing with montjoie we tried both (unsuccessfully though)
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<jernej> alain: no joy, with both options I get this in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/yc13gZ1m
<jernej> although interface can be seen with "ifconfig -a"
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<lvrp16> alain: thats only a 50% improvement in performance per clock
<alain> jernej: looks better than what I was getting last week http://pastebin.com/raw/hrjCgk4V
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<[Awaxx]> Hey!
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<alain> jernej: did you make any further changes to the entry I provided besides the pinctrl-0 name?
<jernej> alain: I tested "reg" set as 0 and 1, but nothing else.
<alain> and which value got you the PHY detection working? I couldn't even get there last week
<jernej> both
<jernej> did you enable realtek phy in kernel config?
<jernej> also, montjoie released new set of patches today
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<alain> yes I had it set
<alain> well that's some progress then
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<lennyraposo> hey longsleep
<lennyraposo> works in ubuntu with original method for creating diskimages
<lennyraposo> but right now I ma little puzzled
<lennyraposo> in th eboot shouldn't I see the kernel image?