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<willmore>
lennyraposo, the "Instructions are here" line should be joined with the previous line as they are the instructions for that image, right?
<lennyraposo>
done
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<willmore>
I am no authority here, it just seemed logical. Want more? I kept reading... :)
<lennyraposo>
hehe
<willmore>
Under "U-Boot" first section bulleted line starting "Booting kernels" the "an" in front of "U-Boot image file" should be 'a'.
<lennyraposo>
I just added teh longsleep image stuff
<lennyraposo>
I am too afraid to touch others work ;)
<willmore>
Seems like a good idea. ;)
<willmore>
That legacy booting section is scarry.
<lennyraposo>
for the pine
<willmore>
Yes.
<willmore>
A lot of "it just works, don't touch it".
<lennyraposo>
longsleep made some backports to the provided u-boot from AW
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<lennyraposo>
apritzel informed that if we get the source for boot0 for u-boot it cna be a real game changer
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<willmore>
That's good news. Nothing I have seen looks like it can't be solved--just that is hasn't been solved yet. And the developers seem pretty active so I don't doubt it will get done in time.
<lennyraposo>
with h3 's mac/ethernet to being or close to being resolved
<lennyraposo>
that leaves USB
<willmore>
That's for mainline kernel?
<lennyraposo>
the h3 yes
<lennyraposo>
it shares the same ethernet/mac as the pine64
<lennyraposo>
I believe montjoie is working on that
<willmore>
Does it? The Pine64 has a 10/100/1000 ethernet while the OrangePiOne has 10/100. Maybe that was just a choice of jack with integrated magnetics.
<willmore>
That's a logical cost reduction.
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<apritzel>
willmore: the H3 has the same MAC as the A64, but the H3 has an _internal_ PHY (on the SoC)
<willmore>
Can the OrangePiOne be powered through the 40 pin connector while I rummange for the right barrel connector?
<apritzel>
so you don't need any external chip for 10/100 MBit/s
<willmore>
apritzel, thanks, that makes sense.
<willmore>
apritzel, is the same true of the A64? I don't seen an external PHY. Did lennyraposo mean they H3 and A64 were the same from a software perspective?
<willmore>
Oh, found on the wiki I can power the board over the 40 pin connector. That'll save a little time.
<lennyraposo>
emac
<lennyraposo>
from the soc
<willmore>
Oh, nope, now I see it. I don't know how I missed seeing the PHY. It's right there near the jack.
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<lennyraposo>
pretyy impressed with hwo things ar managed in the arm world of things
<apritzel>
the A64 has no internal PHY
<apritzel>
apparently putting the PHY into the SoC caused some heat issues on the H3
<apritzel>
and it is max 100 MBit/s anyway
<apritzel>
but it allows really cheap Ethernet boards with the H3
<willmore>
apritzel, yep, sure does. ;)
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<lennyraposo>
I guess it's a case of jam packing way too much into the soc if you ask me
<lennyraposo>
ambitious
<lennyraposo>
if you think about it
<lennyraposo>
x86 has been goign about in the same manner
<lennyraposo>
amd apu s come to mind ;)
<lennyraposo>
take north bridge controllers
<lennyraposo>
gpus too
<lennyraposo>
we are seeing the arms race equivalent with chip manufacurers
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<lennyraposo>
Susan33
<lennyraposo>
did you manage to get your board up and running?
<lennyraposo>
with the provided repos?
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<lennyraposo>
been digging into AllWinners repos
<lennyraposo>
specifically their bootloader
<wens>
montjoie: i've updated my a83-usb branch, this time all changes are individual patches
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<lennyraposo>
question
<lennyraposo>
has anyone here used an arm soc/board 3d acceleratoi under linux here
<lennyraposo>
outside of allwinner
<lennyraposo>
if so has anyone used chromium to display WebGL content?
<lennyraposo>
also if it isn't too much trouble to ask
<lennyraposo>
is anyone working on anything at the moment that I can observe and follow what they are doing?
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<lennyraposo>
gone through a series dtsi for sunxi series
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<lennyraposo>
am I to understand that everything associated to the soc is in that simple package
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<lennyraposo>
?
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<lennyraposo>
enabling usb mmc etc
<lennyraposo>
is all done from there
<lennyraposo>
and wher enecessary addtional dts dtsi files
<lennyraposo>
for the soc only I mean
<lennyraposo>
am I correct in my assumption?
<Amit_T>
It should be in same directory where master dts is present
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<Amit_T>
or you could look it through #include path
<lennyraposo>
aware of the includes
<lennyraposo>
I am just surprised that soc enablement is so clean
<montjoie>
wens: thanks I will backport them
<lennyraposo>
btw montjoir
<lennyraposo>
montjoie*
<lennyraposo>
how did the h3 test go?
<montjoie>
the ethernet just work
<montjoie>
I need to backport wens patch and release it
<lennyraposo>
fully functional now?
<montjoie>
yes stable ssh
<lennyraposo>
nice
<lennyraposo>
framing issue?
<montjoie>
no
<lennyraposo>
was it I mena
<lennyraposo>
noticed various h3 dts dtsi listings
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<lennyraposo>
this all beginning to make a great deal of sense
<lennyraposo>
everythign on board all in this dts dtsi files
<lennyraposo>
now here is the part I am trying to comprehend
<lennyraposo>
this has to do with dealing with the BSPs
<lennyraposo>
which contain the annoying binaries
<lennyraposo>
I am trying to see declarations for usage in the dst/dsti files
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<Amit_T>
longsleep: why sun50iw1p1(its AARCH64) is placed under armv7 cpu in u-boot boards.cfg file , is it because it operates in 32 bit mode?
<lennyraposo>
I think it's because it starts in 32 bit mode I
<lennyraposo>
are we taking about his pine linux repo?
<lennyraposo>
but if they built say as many as they are shipping daily after qc inspections they should be able to fulfill the demand in the next 3 months
<KotCzarny>
Amit_T: their posts are hidden
<lennyraposo>
taking into consideration the batches they were running before ackerkit
<Amit_T>
Sorry, its for backers only
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<lennyraposo>
just posted in the comments section of the campaign (pine64)
<lennyraposo>
I want case made from pine based on teh acrylic desing listed on backerkit
<lennyraposo>
surprised no one has done it yet
<KotCzarny>
because there is no point at the moment? (ie. if someone wanted the case, they would back the kit?)
<lennyraposo>
come up with the concept
<lennyraposo>
a quick prototype
<lennyraposo>
and flaunt it
<lennyraposo>
they will come running ;)
<KotCzarny>
also, mostly because dimensions arent known yet
<KotCzarny>
only started deliveries
<lennyraposo>
they are listed on the wiki
<lennyraposo>
take 2 pieces of wood
<KotCzarny>
still, #1 applies (not many delivered atm)
<KotCzarny>
but yes, you are right
<KotCzarny>
it's a nice bussiness idea
<lennyraposo>
4x 25 mm m3 female female hex spacers
<lennyraposo>
and 4 female male hex spacers
<lennyraposo>
12 screws total ;)
<lennyraposo>
and it's ultra gimmicky
<KotCzarny>
i made me a case for my audio bpi-m1 project from bonbons box
<lennyraposo>
kewl
<KotCzarny>
and i think i were showing it to you already
<lennyraposo>
I made a lego case for both the expected pine and a pi2
<lennyraposo>
and AllWinner providing the boot0 source for U-boot and the pine will be a go for mainline
<lennyraposo>
from what I gathered thus far
<lennyraposo>
fingers crossed
<longsleep>
Amit_T: yes, U-Boot is 32 bit and thus the config is for 32 bit arch as well
<lennyraposo>
oh ya
<lennyraposo>
arm boots in 32 bit
<lennyraposo>
apritzel already stated that to me
<lennyraposo>
in the same way x86 is 16bit ;)
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<lennyraposo>
longsleep
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<lennyraposo>
I have gone throught the dts dtsi files to educate myself
<longsleep>
yes afaik the SoC is hardwired to start in 32 bit mode, it is not a general ARM thing to do it that way. I guess they just make it that way to it is easier for them
<longsleep>
s/make/made
<Amit_T>
longsleep: Ok Thanks for clarifying
<lennyraposo>
and was wondering in terms of teh binaries from android (BSP)
<lennyraposo>
You had to use them to buld your pine images
<longsleep>
they are in the trees, libdram, libhdmi and one more i forgot about
<lennyraposo>
usb?
<longsleep>
forgot about it :)
<longsleep>
all the stuff outside of the tree is in the blobs folder of my build system
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<lennyraposo>
I noticed you made a dts for the pine
<lennyraposo>
if I am not mistaken
<longsleep>
decompiled from Android image
<longsleep>
thats why it is all formatted in hex
<lennyraposo>
ahh
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<lennyraposo>
see
<lennyraposo>
I'm learning ;)
<lennyraposo>
going on to day 3
<longsleep>
do not have the time to figure out the differences from the dts files in the Kernel tree, ultimatively all the changes should be added to the proper sources so the device tree can be built from Kernel tree
<lennyraposo>
well montjoir completed work to the mac on the h3
<lennyraposo>
so there is one les item to worry about in terms of a64 mainline
<lennyraposo>
usb is next I would say
<lennyraposo>
and the wait for Boot0 source from allwinner
<longsleep>
well there is no eta - there is certainly progress driver wise
<lennyraposo>
I am anxious to ge the board and start getting hands on with development
<lennyraposo>
learning and investigating
* longsleep
has to leave for office - see you later
<lennyraposo>
I wonder how much info can be obtained from with Android about the usb stack
<lennyraposo>
see you l8r
<lennyraposo>
before development I need to get comfortable with git
<lennyraposo>
long way from cvs from days of old for me
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<rellla>
ssvb, libv, sunxi-mali/3.4 related question: where is the memory from, which is bound during glTexImage2D?
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<plaes>
oh cool.. I don't have the worst Orange Pi PC board :)
<plaes>
there are few more that fail the 672MHz case :)
<KotCzarny>
;)
<KotCzarny>
i wonder how many of those tests 'with heatsink' would fail at 672 too
<KotCzarny>
(without the heatsink)
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<KotCzarny>
plaes, btw. do you know anything about hdmi port going disabled periodically? (i suspect cma allocator)
<plaes>
nope
<plaes>
I have only used my Opi PC to run the memtester
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<KotCzarny>
i've noticed that loading new page in firefox usually triggers it
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<plaes>
funny :)
<KotCzarny>
but copying file to usb stick made it much worse (almost continuous sceeen blank)
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<montjoie>
One more bug I need to solve is the RX multi frame
<montjoie>
but with the current state, a stable ssh is possible
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<wens>
montjoie: cool
<montjoie>
wens: I will continue to backport your patchs
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<apritzel>
montjoie: so you can dump dmesg now over ssh? ;-)
<montjoie>
yes:)
<montjoie>
fragmented skb is handled
<montjoie>
but it is not handled on reception
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<montjoie>
strangely because allwinner driver does not seems to handle it
<apritzel>
so type slowly? :-D
<montjoie>
yes:( network is slow
<montjoie>
I have some hint on what cause this
<montjoie>
but first I need that NFS works (so multi RX frame reception works)
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<edolnx>
Greetings, I was wondering if someone could help explain to me how to get UART2 to function under Linux on an A20 based pcDuino3Nano. I've tried the stock kernel and a 4.4 kernel and neither seem to enable it by default...
<rellla>
does anyone know of multithreaded vdpau applications?
<atsampson>
edolnx: with the mainstream kernel, you can enable it by editing the device tree file (arch/arm/boot/dts/sun7i-a20-pcduino3-nano.dts)
<atsampson>
the "aliases" section says what order they'll show up to the kernel in -- i.e. serial0 is ttyS0, serial is ttyS1...
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<edolnx>
serial or serial1?
* atsampson
peers suspiciously at keyboard
<atsampson>
serial1, sorry ;-)
<edolnx>
OK, just checking :D
<edolnx>
I tried something similar to that and didn't have much luck, but it could have been that UART was fried on the board I was testing. I'll try a different one instead.
<longsleep>
right, and i already run with some dt changes from android ftd
<lennyraposo>
hmm
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<longsleep>
but i also didnt understand why 1000M suddenly worked after i changed over settings from newer android release - so i think i missed something
<longsleep>
Mhm Pine64.com updated android image says that this release is only for 1GB and 2GB versions, maybe thats related and they roll diffrent images for 512M version
<longsleep>
good moment to try remix os
<longsleep>
ah, Only suitable for PineA64 1GB and 2GB Ram version only
<apritzel>
longsleep: maybe they hardcoded RGMII and the 1GBit PHY into the driver?
<lennyraposo>
teh 512 boards may only be good linux headless
<longsleep>
apritzel: mhm the driver actually did not even change with their GBit updte
<longsleep>
+a
<longsleep>
trying now the first android release - it could be that they do have no release for 100M Pines
<willmore>
My OrangePiOne boards came today instead of "sometime starting next monday". yay! Got one up and runing on the 5.05 armbian image. No issues so far. Good work, everyone!
<apritzel>
longsleep: technically it should be as easy as specifying 'phy-mode = "mii";' in the DT
<longsleep>
yeah, did not work - thats the first i tried
<apritzel>
unless they actually haven't implemented it
<apritzel>
the clock setup is different between RGMII and MII, one is driven by the MAC, the other is driving itself (forget which was which)
<longsleep>
well git grep phy-mode in the allwinner drivers folder results nothing
<longsleep>
fusing Android from 12. Dec now to see what this does
<apritzel>
why does that not surprise me? ;-)
<longsleep>
hehe me neither :)
<longsleep>
i wrote them as well, maybe they provide some hints
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<longsleep>
shit, i dd'd the phoenixcard image
* longsleep
goes finding some windows
<lennyraposo>
???
<longsleep>
phoneixcard is some chinese windows software to fuse allwinner images to media
<tkaiser>
NiteHawk: Ok, then something's wrong here (OS X 10.10.5). fel.c doesn't compile. Will have a look into it in a few days.
<NiteHawk>
what's the error? peeking at NextThingCo's fork they seemed to have fixed Mac OS X compilation - you might want to further investigate / cross-check their changes
<tkaiser>
NiteHawk: thx, but not now ;)
<NiteHawk>
sure. my goal for now is actually very simple: get some ACK on the mailing list for this one-line change, so it can be merged and the PR closed
<NiteHawk>
btw: did your SID experiments succeed? :)
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<tkaiser>
NiteHawk: Just automated FEL/NFS boot which is great since time between building an OS image and testing this OS image is close to 0 seconds now.
<tkaiser>
At the moment I struggle with these crazy Allwinner boards sucking power from every source they have.
<tkaiser>
I use an 'intelligent' power switch but the boards don't care since they take DC-IN through USB OTG
<NiteHawk>
ah, the UART leaking current - so they won't properly shut down? seems pretty common on some of their reference designs
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<NiteHawk>
oh, i see. but powering via otg in device mode is "by design", or?
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<tkaiser>
I tested with OPi PC, connected an UART-to-USB adapter, USB OTG to my build host and DC-IN to a PSU (one which an LED indicating power).
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<tkaiser>
I switch of the socket on the power switch through sispmctl and the board doesn't power off but backpowers the PSU's led
<NiteHawk>
eek... :/
<tkaiser>
I had to disconnect USB OTG... that's my showstopper now testing 4 boards in parallel through FEL/NFS. These beasts won't power off