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<lennyraposo> liking the checklist doc
<wens> preparing to test new emac driver on a83
<wens> need to get some $work done first
<lennyraposo> that's tied in with the h3 soc too right?
<lennyraposo> I mean the same
<lennyraposo> wish apritzel or longsleep were around
<wens> yup
<wens> without the extra "internal" phy to deal with
<lennyraposo> let me know how that goes
<lennyraposo> need to get to know git a bit more
<lennyraposo> going through a variety of tutorials for th etime being
<lennyraposo> and more required reading from longsleep and apritzel
<lennyraposo> do you mind if I pick your brain here and there?
<wens> sure, if i'm available
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<wens> i'm not familiar with arm64 though
<wens> montjoie: fyi the mdio bits can stay in the ethernet driver
<wens> quite a few drivers have it this way, because of the mixed register space
<wens> montjoie: you also reverted the rgmii changes i made in sun8i_emac_set_link_mode()
<wens> SUN8I_EMAC_RGMII_STA is a readonly register, giving you information read from the phy in RGMII
<wens> you still control the link stuff as in MII
<wens> SUN8I_EMAC_RGMII_STA should be read when an interrupt with BIT(16) (RGMII) is raised
<wens> at least that is how i interpret allwinner's code
<lennyraposo> that's the gbe
<lennyraposo> sorry 100mbit
<lennyraposo> is the rgmIII
<lennyraposo> si the gigabit version?
<wens> yes
<lennyraposo> was readin ghte docs on the 2 versions earlier today
<lennyraposo> so basically get the one workign and the gig one should be a piec eof cake
<wens> rgmii supports 10/100/1000
<wens> it just a different set of settings in the hardware
<lennyraposo> was confused about the soc and the actual realtek ordeal
<lennyraposo> phy
<lennyraposo> always thought of things as independent
<lennyraposo> ie on x86
<lennyraposo> aln card
<lennyraposo> lan*
<wens> on x86 a lot of controllers have phy intergrated
<lennyraposo> exactly
<wens> mac + phy
<wens> you see this more with network hardware though
<wens> like switch chips
<lennyraposo> I found it interesting
<lennyraposo> somethign I learned today
<wens> i learned it doing stmmac 2 years ago :)
<wens> stmmac support for sunxi that is
<lennyraposo> kewl
<lennyraposo> I have been more of a applications developer in th elast 15 years
<lennyraposo> done very little in the hardware space other than dealing with bad bios with windows only friendly acpi stuff
<lennyraposo> I have compiled kernels
<lennyraposo> which is pretty straight forward
<lennyraposo> but getting down to this level of how everything is developed is more than I am use to
<lennyraposo> but I do like a challenge and to learn
<lennyraposo> setting up clusters
<lennyraposo> loadbalancing
<lennyraposo> all that is nothing compared ot this
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<lennyraposo> I am now seeing that physics engines are easier to do
<lennyraposo> lol
<lennyraposo> the last piece of collabrative software I used was tortoise cvs on sourceforge
<lennyraposo> it seems quite intimidating
<lennyraposo> and exciting at the same time
<lennyraposo> sorry rambling
<lennyraposo> I have a pine64 board coming way next week
<lennyraposo> atleast I can dive in ,start experimenting, testing and figuring it all out
<lennyraposo> you guys have some good documentation out there
<lennyraposo> knowledge base
<wens> lennyraposo: no worries, i had no experience prior to doing sunxi
<lennyraposo> until next week I have time to learn the daya to day operations and dos and don'ts
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<lennyraposo> be back in a bit
<lennyraposo> need a smoke
<lennyraposo> and to tell the youens to go to bed
<lennyraposo> march break and they think the rules need apply this week
<lennyraposo> ;)
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<lennyraposo> back in black
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<lennyraposo> quick question for does in the know
<lennyraposo> which repositories should I be working with
<lennyraposo> must haves
<lennyraposo> mainline
<lennyraposo> mainline kernel I mean (torvalds)
<lennyraposo> U-boot
<lennyraposo> anything else I should look into?
<lennyraposo> nevermind found it on the site
<lennyraposo> cloning now
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<plaes> lennyraposo: depends on the device
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<lennyraposo> pine stuff
<lennyraposo> got longsleep's stuff
<lennyraposo> now Ihave the repos cloned
<lennyraposo> can browse on my system
<lennyraposo> so if I do work
<lennyraposo> say on usb stuff
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<lennyraposo> where should I send it to and which repo should I work off of
<lennyraposo> primarily
<plaes> well, for mainline it's linux-sunxi/linux and sunxi-next branch
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<plaes> though, you might want to keep eye on hans de goede's sunxi-wip branch
<plaes> and of course apritzel/longsleep
<plaes> Hans's repo contains bunch of fixes for usb in general (shared reset lines, IIRC but don't remember if these were also for A64)
<plaes> and apritzel and longsleep have been doing main A64 work
<lennyraposo> further investigation required from I heard
<lennyraposo> for USB
<plaes> yeah it's WIP
<plaes> our wiki has page which lists some of the WIP work: https://linux-sunxi.org/Mainlining_Effort
<plaes> but it's usually somewhat out-of-date
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<lennyraposo> so anything I come up with for mainline
<lennyraposo> linux-sunxi/linux
<plaes> yeah.. this is where the work should be done
<lennyraposo> so I can skip actual torvalds
<lennyraposo> jsut work off of sunxi as stated in the wiki
<plaes> torvalds tree is lagging patches
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<lennyraposo> these are the two listed on wiki git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git (stable)
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<lennyraposo> git://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi.git
<plaes> yeah.. for A64 you want linux-sunxi
<lennyraposo> ok
<lennyraposo> got it
<lennyraposo> there is also a next?
<plaes> yeah.. check the branch list
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<wens> plaes tries to keep the WIP list updated
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<lennyraposo> last question of the night for me
<lennyraposo> need to sleep
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<lennyraposo> how often is the wiki page updated?
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<plaes> lennyraposo: depends..
<plaes> I mostly update based on patch submissions to linux-sunxi list
<plaes> but some people skip that list
<plaes> and I also don't know the non-submission cases
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<plaes> apritzel: o/
<plaes> do you know who's working on the A64 USB?
<apritzel> plaes: sadly: no
<apritzel> I was trying a bit lately
<apritzel> it seems like it needs two reset lines triggered at once, which the current driver does not support
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<plaes> ah.. this is what Hans is working on...
<plaes> lennyrapos here was interested in USB stuff
<wens> great... the weird design :(
<wens> the shared reset stuff is pending
<apritzel> I had Hans patches applied, but still it didn't work
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<apritzel> the driver initialized properly, but plugging in anything didn't change a thing
<apritzel> I think there are _two_ places where it needed two reset lines, Hans patches covering only one
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<plaes> aww
<plaes> wasn't his patches for H3 too?
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<apritzel> H3 differs USB-wise from the A64
<apritzel> so it's no real help
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<plaes> yeah.. "At least the EHCI/OHCI found on the Allwinnner H3 SoC needs multiple
<plaes> ...
<apritzel> that is the one place I mentioned above
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<apritzel> but the A64 has a second variety
* plaes update Mainlining Effort page
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<matthias_bgg> apritzel, do you know which uboot is best to use, if you want to avoid the crazy partition scheme from the bsp uboot?
<matthias_bgg> is it yours or the one from longsleep?
<apritzel> matthias_bgg: I think both are avoiding that
<apritzel> if you are looking for most enabled features, I'd recommend longsleep's for the moment
<apritzel> not so much for U-Boot features (I think upstream is better here)
<apritzel> but since that enables the PMIC properly, you have more fun with your Linux afterwards
<apritzel> I will push some new patches and a new image later this week
<apritzel> that will give you bootz and booti support, for loading 32-bit and 64-bit kernels
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<wens> montjoie: sun8i-emac driver on a83 seems to be working, though it is too noisy to use for now
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<matthias_bgg> apritzel, ok, thanks. from a legal perspective your u-boot is critical to distribute, as it uses libdram without providing the sources, right?
<wens> no word on the sources yet?
<apritzel> Allwinner told me this week ...
<apritzel> which is only half way through, so there is still hope
<wens> half way through?
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<apritzel> wens: I got an email last week stating that they would release the information "next week"
<apritzel> matthias_bgg: I build upstream U-Boot with ssvb's patches, but don't use the SPL
<wens> oh
<apritzel> matthias_bgg: instead I use their boot0, which we allowed to distribute
<matthias_bgg> apritzel, but that is not your a64 branch in github, right?
<apritzel> matthias_bgg: not in the moment, yes
<apritzel> matthias_bgg: but this just involves to move the text offset by 1.5 KB to make room for the header that boot0 requires
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<apritzel> matthias_bgg: what is your time frame? Can you wait till the weekend?
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<matthias_bgg> apritzel, I would prefer to get that up and working asap. I'm not really into uboot, but from what you explained, it seems to me as if I had to add 1.5 KB to CONFIG_SPL_BSS_START_ADDR
<matthias_bgg> and revert the patch that adds libdram
<apritzel> matthias_bgg: not SPL, actually you build without SPL at all
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<apritzel> it's CONFIG_SYS_TEXT_BASE
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<apritzel> I usually build with SPL, but ignore the generated file and use u-boot-dtb.bin
<apritzel> (I need the SPL version still for the FEL boot)
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<matthias_bgg> apritzel, yes I was looking on the wrong linker script. Ok, I will give it a shot. If a achieve anything, I will let you know :)
<matthias_bgg> thanks for the help!
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<montjoie> wens: thanks for the test:)
<montjoie> wens: do you have modified something for make it works ?
<montjoie> since you said I forgot to backport your RGMII modification
<wens> montjoie: i'll update my branch a bit later
<montjoie> no hurry, I need to first found why dmesg stuck the ssh connection (packet sent with bad length)
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<ordex> wigyori: I sent a patch for openwrt to add support for the orangepi mini..in case you want to comment :)
<wigyori> ordex: just saw the mail - will check it and get back to you :)
<ordex> cool :)
<ordex> although I was disappointed about hostapd .. but what can we expcet given the driver being used :/
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<lennyraposo> longsleep are you about?
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<nove> by the dumped bsp, there appears to be an A20E in making, will this be the famous A40 that never was
<montjoie> I fixed a bug in the current EMAC driver, I will update it soon
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<montjoie> and I will publish it without the noise of debug
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<susan33> hi ; the manual build howto (http://linux-sunxi.org/Manual_build_howto) refers to A10, A13 and A20 and at the bottom, some others. The pine64 is based on a soc A64. The question is : is there a howto for this soc ?
<lennyraposo> you need lonsleeps
<lennyraposo> longsleeps current
<lennyraposo> which relies on adeal of the 3.10.65 BSP 1.2 kernel from Allwinner
<susan33> lennyraposo: is it an answer to me ?
<lennyraposo> yes Susan33
<lennyraposo> ;)
<lennyraposo> you need longsleeps u-boot and pine64 linux repos
<lennyraposo> for the time being
<lennyraposo> the pine64 is a WIP
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<lennyraposo> from what I gather tus far (I'm new myself) is that mainline kernel needs development in the areas of USB/Ethernet
<lennyraposo> and U-Boot requires the boot0 sources from allwinner
<lennyraposo> but someone here is near completion on the ethernet driver (MAC) for the a64
<susan33> do you have an url to these repo please ?
<lennyraposo> yes
<lennyraposo> getting it now
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<lennyraposo> he also has pre made images
<susan33> oh ok, i put an s at the end, sorry.
<apritzel> I feel someone should put this info into the Wiki
<lennyraposo> both pine and sunxi wikis?
<apritzel> latter only so far
<lennyraposo> I can do that
<apritzel> I think the template has sections for both BSP based and upstream versions of U-Boot and kernel
<susan33> nice. i find somewhere in my reads in howto that there were something done with buildroot. Is it the case for these repos too ?
<susan33> (my distribution is based on buildroot)
<apritzel> susan33: those repos are not so much about distributions, really
<apritzel> it's the kernel and U-Boot (read: firmware)
<lennyraposo> are you looking for an image?
<apritzel> for the userland you can use virtually any arm64 distribution, as long as you use the proper kernel
<susan33> apritzel: yes, i got this points. But my aim is to put them into packages of buildroot so that buildroot checkout this kernel and uboot and compile them
<apritzel> AFAIK the compilation is a bit involved, since it's based on Allwinner sources and their build system
<apritzel> don't know how this works together with buildroot
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<susan33> i will read all that and compile and see. is the sd card creation (http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_SD_card) valid with this uboot version ?
<apritzel> not yet
<apritzel> we need information from Allwinner to get a proper U-Boot port
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<apritzel> for the time being we are stuck with their boot0 firmware blob
<apritzel> I think somewhere in longsleep's repo there should be information on how to create an image
<susan33> ok. This is included into the longsleep repository or where should i take it ?
<susan33> ok nice. i'm going to read all that.
<susan33> my understand is that : with an sd card, and these 2 repo, and my rootfs, i should be able to boot something. i hope i'm right.
<apritzel> somehow: yes ;-)
<apritzel> but if your concern is mostly your rootfs, I suggest you just go with some image and add your rootfs to it
<apritzel> building Allwinner's crap is no fun, really
<lennyraposo> and from what someone told me the wrong way to go about it ;)
<susan33> i've tried to take an image, but i didn't understand how to do after : i dd the img on the sd card : and after that, partition seemed messy
<apritzel> susan33: welcome to Allwinner ;-)
<lennyraposo> hehe
<apritzel> this is some weird Android partitioning scheme, which is only half way legal
<apritzel> some partition tools indeed refuse to work with it
<lennyraposo> longsleep cleaned up for what it's worth
<lennyraposo> even backported some u-boot aspects in allwinners u-boot rendtion
* apritzel sees some strong indication that I should push an updated firmware image with upstream u-boot ;-)
<lennyraposo> boot0 source would go a long way
<lennyraposo> then ATF
<susan33> apritzel: so, from an ubuntu computer, is there a way to copy my rootfs to the sd card on the partition 10 (as far as i've read, it's partition 10) ?
<apritzel> oh, are you using my original image then?
<lennyraposo> didn't umiddle create a bunch of script for creating debina ubuntu rootfs?
<apritzel> susan33: so you have a rootfs ready?
<susan33> susan33: no, not yet, in fact i don't know exactly what to change to make it work : i've a buildroot distribution. i guess i've to change the target to arm8, but i don't understand how i will be able to put things like the linux modules ;-(
<apritzel> the target name is aarch64, I think
<susan33> however, i've a buildroot (so a tool to build a rootfs) ready for rpi0,1, 2, and 3. my understanding is that i've just to change the target processor (but i'm still learning about that kind of things)
<apritzel> don't know much about buildroot, but at least it seems to support arm64 (aka aarch64)
<apritzel> susan33: what does buildroot actually create: does it dump all files into a directory?
<susan33> yes, i don't think that making the rootfs (except the linux driver) is a problem. my problem is more the boot.
<susan33> so, i take your image, and how to you actually copy the rootfs on the sd ? while the partition schema is not recognized.
<apritzel> your Linux should see the partitions, at least
<apritzel> lsblk or cat /proc/partition
<apritzel> so you make a filesystem on sdx10: mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/sdx10
<apritzel> (replace x with the proper letter your SD cards get)
<susan33> i've not it tonight unfortunatly, but i remember that gparted didn't see the same things as /dev/mmcblk0p* ; i'll try this week end when i'll be back at home.
<susan33> oh, in fact, sdx10 doesn't exist, i've to create it. ok.
<apritzel> mmcblk0p is also possible, sdx is for USB based card readers
<susan33> thanks
<apritzel> wait
<apritzel> you should check the output of cat /proc/partitions, somewhere there should be something with 10 partitions, presumably its mmcblk0p<n>
<susan33> apritzel: can you confirm the url please : https://github.com/apritzel/pine64/tree/master/images : this is the image i should start from ?
<apritzel> yes, unfortunately it's a bit dated now
<apritzel> so say you found the right partition (presumably it's /dev/mmcblk0p10 in your case):
<susan33> ok, any problem. my aim is only to boot my rootfs for the moment. my target is to include the compilation process into buildroot, but as far as i understand ,for the last point, i should wait while it's moving regularly
<apritzel> yes, it's quite in flux at the moment
<apritzel> I will probably release a much saner base image soon
<susan33> apritzel: a last point : who are you from the pine64 point of view ?
<apritzel> do you mean whether I am connected to the Pine64 organisation?
<susan33> yes
<apritzel> no, I am just a concerned citizen ;-)
<apritzel> but I push the Pine64 upstream kernel support
<susan33> ok, nice. Thanks a lot for you work and your help.
<susan33> i guess i'll be back soon.
<apritzel> sure...
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<nove> the wiki is popular, one page created yesterday already have 74 accesses
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<rellla> nove: 5 are mine :p
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<nove> even if half is repeated or bots, is still a huge number that are checking the wiki recent changes
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<longsleep> apritzel: i am almost ready to come back to help with mainline - probably on the weekend
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<longsleep> susan33: https://github.com/longsleep/build-pine64-image/tree/master/u-boot-postprocess has the details and the scripting to build and compile U-Boot and add the necessary envelope so its accepted by boot0.
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<longsleep> susan33: and https://github.com/longsleep/build-pine64-image/blob/master/simpleimage/make_simpleimage.sh creates a simple image with standard DOS partition table, U-Boot and Kernel which you can use to combine with any rootfs.
<longsleep> i did not document it much to avoid end user attention :)
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<lennyraposo> I will be adding the udpates to wiki
<lennyraposo> regarding the pine
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<lennyraposo> I will add the images provided by longsleep
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<lennyraposo> do you want me to add your repos for the 3.10 bsp linux sources and the u-boot hacks you came up with there to longsleep?