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<Zugschlus> hi
<Zugschlus> What do I need to do to get a Banana Pi's HDMI output working with Debian Jessie? Do I need a patched kernel?
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<libv> still no answer from in-circuit.de
<libv> i will stay at the office longer tonight to get some paperwork done, i might try to grab a serial log while i am at it, and grab the fex file
<libv> and i will write up a $shit_pi blog entry on the train tomorrow evening, so i can post something on monday evening
<libv> phoronix will have a field day
<vpeter> libv: Out of curiosity: where and what do you do for living (at work)?
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<libv> i get to waste my time doing nothing useful
<libv> but at the same time i give some managers a good feeling that, after 4ys, they finally got a real linux developer in so that things soon will be washed, without anyone or anything getting wet
<NiteHawk> a truly rewarding task...
<libv> i have become a big proponent of the unconditional basic income
<libv> a solution for most people in here. they should go home and consume, as that way they deliver more of a contribution to the german/european economy than with what they are doing today
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<moparisthebest> so I can't seem to find out, do sunxi supported devices need proprietary firmware blobs to run or not?
<rellla> no
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<moparisthebest> so are there entire complete boards I can buy and run with 0 closed source blobs for anything?
<rellla> no
<vpeter> libv: Nice reading just made.
<libv> moparisthebest: but do not use the bananapi if you truly wish to be open and community and such
<NiteHawk> moparisthebest: depends. rellla is correct if you don't want/need to make full use of specific peripherals. arm gpu support, audio or e.g. wifi might require drivers that come with binary blobs
<rellla> NiteHawk: yes, my answer was a bit short :p
<moparisthebest> I use a few raspberry pis for various things, some that don't require GPUs and such, what sunxi boards would be good replacements for those?
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<libv> moparisthebest: olimex sells some oshw boards
<libv> full, proper oshw
<libv> moparisthebest: http://linux-sunxi.org/OSHW
<Wizzup> moparisthebest: Olimex OlinuXino A20 LIME2 are quite nice
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<Wizzup> moparisthebest: and wrt binary blobs, I guess the stages before u-boot are binary, but IIRC allwinner released source for that BL0 and BL1 (or so?)
<NiteHawk> mailine u-boot has its own SPL by now, there's no closed sourced involved afaik
<Wizzup> NiteHawk: right, but before u-boot there's BL0 right?
<Wizzup> or boot0...
<NiteHawk> but that's hardcoded (BROM)?
<moparisthebest> but I'd still need to run closed source blobs for hdmi/graphics etc?
<libv> hdmi, no
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<moparisthebest> so take something like the Olimex A20-OLinuXino-MICRO, what on there would require closed source blobs?
<libv> as said by nitehawk
<NiteHawk> e.g. graphics acceleration and 3D
<libv> vpu, gpu, wifi
<NiteHawk> as long as you want to run a "standard" headless server, you're fine with entirely open source
<moparisthebest> what about graphics via hdmi or one of the olimex lcd's without 3d acceleration?
<Wizzup> wifi is firmware, not something that runs on the cpu though?
<Wizzup> moparisthebest: that should work without
<Wizzup> mali "only" does 3d, afaik
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<rellla> libv: vpu, not mandatory
<libv> true
<libv> for some codecs things are ok without the blobs
<rellla> for the others, i have not tested :D
<moparisthebest> so a vpu and a gpu are 2 different things?
<Wizzup> mali only does 3d, the vpu does video encoding/decoding (like mp4, etc)
<mripard> /wi3
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<rellla> we need some wiki article, that makes clear, what vpu, gpu, g2d, mali ... are and what they are needed for.
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<libv> people should just get to grips with the fact that this is also how ti works with discrete cards
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<rellla> some graphis/ video glossary :S
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<codekipper> Hi all
<moparisthebest> there are open source 3d graphics drivers like gallium and such, those don't work on something like the mali yet?
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<codekipper> it looks like the linux next broke for me(I'm networking booting) between 22 and 23
<libv> gallium is not a graphics driver
<Wizzup> moparisthebest: work on open source driver for mali is stalled currently
<libv> it's graphics driver infrastructure
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<libv> and one that forces a very specific and weird workflow
<codekipper> I was able to fix it by reverting the changes to sunxi_defconfig that went in between those dates
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<codekipper> Does anybody know why can support(or module unload) would break the eth phy?
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<wens> because you built the phy driver as a module, and it's not loaded?
<wens> or the mdio bus, which is a separate driver for sun4i-emac
<vishnup> wens: u-boot uart0 is working on serial connector exposed on A83T board. However, to put device into FEL mode, It still needs uart connected to microsd muxed pins
<wens> vishnup: yeah, that's somewhat annoying
<vishnup> is there any work around for this?
<wens> i think instructions were to short some nand pins
<wens> also, iirc their brom or boot0 checks some registers for a magic value, and if found boots into fel mode
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<codekipper> wens, I'll try with a vanilla defconfig and see if that works
<codekipper> but phy should be built in...
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<wens> codekipper: the log looks more like mdio bus was not found
<wens> maybe it's not built by default?
<codekipper> wens, this is what I'm building https://github.com/codekipper/linux-sunxi/commits/spdif_delivery
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<codekipper> last commit reverts the latest defconfig changes and then it works
<wens> no idea :(
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<Zugschlus> What do I need to do to get a Banana Pi's HDMI output working with Debian Jessie? Do I need a patched kernel? With the stock kernel, uboot shows on the TV, but once the kernel strts the screen gets dark
<TheLinuxBug> Yeah its kernel related, had similar issues
<TheLinuxBug> it can't find sync so fails
<TheLinuxBug> if you are using igors setup
<TheLinuxBug> I had that same issue with his Jessie
<Zugschlus> where can I read up with igors setup? I just used the straight debian installer
<TheLinuxBug> oh?
<TheLinuxBug> so mainline has issue?
<Zugschlus> mainline Debian.
<TheLinuxBug> interesting
<TheLinuxBug> I haven't tested mainlin
<Zugschlus> My first three banana pis are headless servers, and I am a Debian jockey, so that was the natural choice.
<Zugschlus> Was kind of surprised that the first Bpi geared to be a "workstation" didn't work
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<TheLinuxBug> is Igor's stuff
<TheLinuxBug> try his release and see if still issues
<TheLinuxBug> personally I run Bananian on Mine with 7.8
<Zugschlus> will try his stuff
<TheLinuxBug> 3.4.108+ #2 SMP PREEMPT Mon Aug 24 08:55:25 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
<TheLinuxBug> and its stable
<TheLinuxBug> anyhow
<Zugschlus> if it works I can reckon out the difference
<TheLinuxBug> have to run out
<TheLinuxBug> bbl
<Zugschlus> I have 4.1
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<codekipper> wens, linux-next is definitely broke http://pastebin.com/QMNSb5AU
<codekipper> tried linux-20150924 and linux-20150923.....both didn't work
<codekipper> applied revert of defconfig to linux-20150924 and netbooting works again
<mripard> codekipper: can you bisect it ?
<codekipper> sun4i-emac 1c0b000.ethernet eth0: cannot probe MDIO bus
<mripard> the phy apparently never probes
<codekipper> there isn't many diffs
<codekipper> just sunxi_defconfig with module unload and CAN being added.
<mripard> codekipper: it doesn't have to be in the defconfig or the drivers we have
<mripard> we're far from being alone doing kernel development...
<codekipper> would it be safer to make CAN a module instead
<codekipper> all was ok on next-20150922
<mripard> what changed in there ?
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<mripard> something in the net stack ? phy framework ?
<codekipper> let me check
<jelle> o/
<codekipper> well the multi and sunxi_defconfigs, some A13 and A23/A33 dts' and shit loads of other kernel stuff
<codekipper> let me grab the names of the files changes
<mripard> again, it's very likely that it isn't one of our patches
<codekipper> s/changes/changed
<mripard> bisecting would really help
* jelle wonders how far the orange pi pc will work
<codekipper> yeah....I can't really be bisecting at the mo......
<mripard> have you looked on kernelci.org if there's some similar breakages on other boards / SoC?
<codekipper> I've haven't looked elsewhere...just saw that just as I wanted to deliver my spdif patches then suddenly it didn't work
<plaes> btw, how it's possible that you have sun4i_can ?
<plaes> was it merged?
<codekipper> why is CAN built into the kernel and not a load module?, is that the way forward with one kernel fits all?
<mripard> plaes: yep
<plaes> even after all your comments?
<mripard> plaes: they all got addressed
<plaes> oh.. nice
<codekipper> a918a7d can: Allwinner A10/A20 CAN Controller support - Defconfig
<plaes> I only saw v5 in the list
<mripard> codekipper: it's a default configuration... feel free to have your own
<mripard> plaes: there's been something like a v8 that got merged
<codekipper> I do...but where is can being used..compared to network booting?
<plaes> ok, never saw those
<mripard> codekipper: whether network booting is useful depends on both your board, your preference, and your use case
<mripard> sunxi_defconfig is simply a minimal defconfig enabling all the SoC related configuration optinos
<mripard> you won't have all the FS options, all the network protocols, etc.
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<mripard> if you want something complete, use multi_v7
<mripard> if you want something else, use your own configuration
<codekipper> so if multi_v7 doesn't allow network booting then do with have a problem?
<mripard> it does
<codekipper> I can always have a try...it just that I came across a problem and thought I'd share....
<codekipper> it only took a few minutes for me to get round so not too much hair was pulled out
<mripard> it's not a problem
<codekipper> I'll sleep better then
<mripard> it's a default configuration
<mripard> it's not a one size fits all configuration
<codekipper> I've mutilated mine
<mripard> why don't you keep that in your .config ?
<codekipper> my build scripts over write it!
<codekipper> and I like to be ontop!
<mripard> why your build script overwrites it ?
<codekipper> because I'm too lazy to change it
<codekipper> and I don't want anybody saying...DIDN'T YOU READ LINE 2 OFF THE FILE
<codekipper> s/OFF/OF
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<codekipper> mripard, MDIO isn't probing on multi_v7 either
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<codekipper> disabling CAN hasn't helped....this is also on next-20150922 which works when using vanilla sunxi_defconfig
<jelle> is the allwinner H3 still unsupported as stated on the wiki?
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<destroyedlolo> Hello,
<destroyedlolo> I have some random crash while playing with DirectFB.
<destroyedlolo> Is any tool to test the memory of a device from a linux shell ?
<destroyedlolo> (I've not been able to find out the uart on my tablet :( )
<plaes> destroyedlolo: please start with new device howto
<destroyedlolo> I did : http://linux-sunxi.org/MID-KLIPAD_HC-913 :)
<destroyedlolo> lot of things still missing.
<destroyedlolo> I mean I even been able to retreave lot of information, including the Android fex.
<destroyedlolo> and started to populate the unknown device page.
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<plaes> destroyedlolo: similar to this: http://linux-sunxi.org/Q88#Locating_the_UART ?
<destroyedlolo> unfortunately, the camera is not at the same place.
<jelle> destroyedlolo: A33 board?
<plaes> A13
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<destroyedlolo> But I'm able to boot with mid_A13 fex file.
<destroyedlolo> I found memtester : is it safe on a runing system ?
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<libv> destroyedlolo: cool, finally a 9" a13
<destroyedlolo> Yep :)
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<destroyedlolo> now, I'll start with "new device support" with Uboot.
<destroyedlolo> I wander if crashes came from :
<destroyedlolo> 1/ my code (but it work perfectly on a bananapi)
<destroyedlolo> 2/ from directfb
<destroyedlolo> 3/ from a fault in the device.
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<ssvb> destroyedlolo: yes, you can run memtester on a running system
<ssvb> in fact, there are no (decent) dedicated bootloader based memory testers on arm, unlike memtest86 on x86
<destroyedlolo> Ok, running. And is it a way to test Nand ?
<ssvb> unless that's what you are running at the moment :-)
<destroyedlolo> Is it dangerous for the content?
<ssvb> which content?
<ssvb> what kind of system (bootloader & kernel & rootfs) are you using now?
<destroyedlolo> The Nand content.
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<destroyedlolo> I'm currently booting Gentoo with an SunXi kernel from an SD card.
<ssvb> I'm not aware of any nand testers
<destroyedlolo> The Nand is supposed to hold Android but it is bricked and a friend of mine said it may be due to broken nand.
<ssvb> as you are running the system from an SD card, your directfb crashes can't be possibly related to nand
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<destroyedlolo> Yes, I know, is another task : trying to resurect Android.
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<libv> ouch
<libv> that's just nasty
<libv> U-Boot 2011.09-rc1-00000-g50f09b6 (Oct 26 2013 - 17:49:35)
<libv> Board: A20-Cubieboard2
<libv> (that icnova thing)
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<libv> and the script.bin is of course cubieboard style.
<libv> it has a few differences to our cubieboard2.fex though
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<ssvb> libv: do they provide schematics? it may be more useful than such half-arsed fex file
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<libv> they do for the daughterboard, but not for the actual som
<libv> it does seem useful though
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<ssvb> wens, mripard: heh, nice timing - https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/24/507
<ssvb> maybe some of the voltage/frequency cpufreq operating points need correction on the bananapi board
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<dburner> hello
<dburner> i buyed an Orange PI 2 a couple of days ago
<dburner> and from what i've read on the forms wiki the H3 drivers arent quite good at playing h264 video yet
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<dburner> i would verry much like to help develp drivers or integrate the H3
<dburner> problem is i dont really know where to start
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<ssvb> dburner: there is an experimental branch for u-boot - http://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-sunxi/2015-08-10#13664563
<ssvb> dburner: for the allwinner-h3 kernel support, see http://linux-sunxi.org/Mainlining_Effort
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<dburner> lol :D i missed the H3 from that page
<dburner> i've been researching Cedar, Cedrus for the past 3 days
<dburner> btw I guess you guys know that Zidoo published their code for the XBMC for the H3 in the past couple of days :)
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<ssvb> I'm not sure if anyone is even working on h3 support for cedrus
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<dburner> well I'll give it a try I guess :)
<dburner> problem is the board hasnt arrived
<dburner> btw the official VLC dosen't have support for CedarX right?
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<dburner> anyway thanks for the help, il try to contribute as much as I can once the board will arrive :)
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<mmarker> Hmm, what is the status of CedarX/Cedrus on a A20 running mainline? I'm going to assume that encoding isn't in scope/working.
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<libv> actually, which do you guys prefer: $shit_pi or $hit_pi?
<libv> the first makes it more 13 a dozen, the second turns it into a bad l33t pun
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<linuxphan> hey guys, any examples of setting up a boot from nand with signed images from u-boot's verified boot?
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