#linux-sunxi on 2015-09-01 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-02-18 19:37 Turl changed the topic of #linux-sunxi to: Allwinner/sunxi /development discussion - did you try looking at our wiki? https://linux-sunxi.org - Don't ask to ask. Just ask and wait! - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/ - Logs at http://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-sunxi

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01:03 <wens> bpi-user: If you look at the user manual, you'll see that the dmaengine is only used by uart/spi/crypto/audio

01:03 <wens> audio seems to require dma

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01:53 <ddpl> I created an account about 2 hours ago, but I've yet to receive any validation request. I've checked my junk folders as well. The wiki mentioned that this is the place to go for help about this. Can someone help me complete my wiki registration?

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03:13 <Net147> is there any documentation on how to configure pullups for the gpios when using mainline?

03:19 <wens> you have to use the pinctrl dt nodes

03:20 <Net147> wens: do I write a devicetree overlay and then install it somehow?

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03:23 <wens> Net147: probably, i have no experience with such though

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05:06 <montjoie_> bpi-user the DMA need to be used by driver, for example I am writing the support for it in crypto, but for the moment very bad performance

05:06 <montjoie_> very very bad

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06:06 <mripard> montjoie_: DMA has never been a guarantee of performances

06:07 <mripard> it's even often the opposite, with DMA being slower than the CPU to transfer data

06:11 <Net147> mripard: I am trying to set pull up on a GPIO in the DTS and use it through /sys/class/gpio. can you see any issues? http://pastebin.com/gvXFdGpY

06:16 <mripard> Net147: it looks fine, but you'll have to have a device grabing that node for the configuration to be applied

06:19 <Net147> mripard: is there a dummy device I can use? if a device is grabbing the node then wouldn't trying to export it via /sys/class/gpio fail?

06:29 <mripard> no

06:29 <mripard> this is a pinctrl node, not a gpio one.

06:30 <mripard> and you can make the pinctrl device grab that node

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06:37 <Net147> mripard: do you have an example?

06:38 <wens> having the pinctrl device grab its own pins... would that result in a chicken and egg problem...

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06:47 <Net147> ideally there should be a guide for converting gpio configuration in fex to mainline devicetree in the wiki

06:47 <vishnup> wens: do you have axp81x datasheet?

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06:58 <wens> vishnup: nope

06:59 <vishnup> wens: as you've played with most of axp chips, is there any similarities in those chips?

07:00 <vishnup> I mean how to deal with it, if we don't have datasheet

07:00 <wens> vishnup: simply put, you can't

07:01 <wens> a datasheet or reference driver is crucial for these things, unless you want to accidentally break your device

07:01 <vishnup> wens: :(

07:02 <vishnup> well, we've reference code, that'll help.

07:03 <vishnup> wens: I'll try to get it form simos if he has

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07:12 <libv> hrm, are wiki emails broken again?

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07:16 <mripard> Net147: just add a pinctrl-0 and pinctrl-names property to the pinctrl node

07:16 <mripard> wens: yep, but there's some special handling for that

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07:42 <Net147> mripard: thanks. it is working

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07:55 <vishnup> simosx: ping

07:55 <simosx> vishnup, pong

07:56 <simosx> saw your message about the datasheet.

07:56 <vishnup> simosx: can we get axp818 datasheet?

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07:56 <simosx> I'll ask.

07:56 <vishnup> thanks

07:56 <plaes> simosx: could they also add A23 datasheet to github repo?

07:57 <plaes> It's already hosted on linux-sunxi, but still would be nice to have in the "official" place

07:57 <simosx> plaes, I'll ask that as well.

08:02 <JohnDoe_71Rus> and ask mali hardware 3D acceleration code :)

08:05 <ssvb> even an up to date mali binary blob would be nice :)

08:06 <simosx> ssvb, there was a discussion on the list regarding what to ask for (version, does it matter which SoCs to target, etc).

08:06 <JohnDoe_71Rus> beter without blob. but this is a dream

08:08 <ssvb> simosx: I need to check it, what was the subject line of this discussion?

08:08 <simosx> JohnDoe_71Rus, regarding Mali, you can ask at ARM. See http://malideveloper.arm.com/ Then, check their forum link (http://community.arm.com/groups/arm-mali-graphics/).

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08:11 <simosx> ssvb, one discussion was "Licensing GPU binaries (WAs: Re: [linux-sunxi] r3p2 version of the Mali driver A20)"

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08:12 <ssvb> simosx: ok

08:13 <simosx> ssvb, cannot find the order discussion regarding the versions. As far as I recollect, that discussion did not conclude.

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08:14 <simosx> order=other.

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08:27 <Net147> would mali blob work on mainline?

08:30 <plaes> probably not

08:30 <ssvb> Net147: if somebody compiles the kernel driver, then yes

08:32 <vishnup> simosx: some of the required docs are mentioned here https://github.com/allwinner-zh/documents/issues/

08:33 <ssvb> Net147: it's not too big of a task, but might require patching/fixing a few things too

08:35 <Net147> ssvb: but it would only work in a single display configuration because of missing KMS?

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08:38 <ssvb> Net147: yes, and also suffer from tearing problems

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08:49 <JohnDoe_71Rus> https://olimex.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/allwinner-did-it-again-new-quad-core-powerful-chip-pin-to-pin-compatible-with-a10-and-a20/ true or fake?

08:49 <BroderTuck> poking allwinner about updating the A83T datasheet/manual with an actual description about DE2.0 may be a good idea as well

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08:56 <bpi-user> wens: Thanks for your reply earlier today. You wrote, DMA is only used by uart/spi/crypto/audio. What about USB and Ethernet? The A20 manual also mentions USB and Ethernet in the register descriptions for the DMA engine. I'm not used to reading datasheets, so maybe I get it all wrong. But can USB and Ethernet make use of the DMA driver as well?

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09:08 <bpi-user> I gotta go again. But, as before, I'll check the logs for replies. Thanks.

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09:11 <ssvb> simosx: posted a new reply to that old mali thread

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09:12 <wens> bpi-user: they have their own internal dma engines connected to the memory bus, and don't use the SoC's

09:15 <ssvb> simosx: the new up to date mali blob is hypothetically interesting if only if we want to make it work with the mainline kernel

09:16 <ssvb> simosx: because the newer blob has also a matching newer kernel driver (with devicetree support, etc.)

09:23 <simosx> ssvb, I now have a good idea on the licence text issue. Thanks.

09:24 <simosx> ssvb, regarding the mali blob: Is there interest to make it work with the mainline kernel? We need to describe well what is needed, and it should be something that many people will benefit from.

09:30 <ssvb> simosx: it was just a question about the mali blob and the mainline kernel asked by Net147 here

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09:35 <ssvb> Net147: what are your plans regarding boot.scr support for fel boot?

09:36 <rellla> simosx: isn't the real issue for possible mainline usage the missing display driver?

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09:55 <libv> ssvb: did some mails in that thread disappear?

09:55 <libv> ssvb: nice answer btw

10:06 <adj__> libv, some people have asked on the lima channel, now that gitorious.org/lima is down, what is the best place to get the source from?

10:07 <adj__> sorry, I mean the lima driver source code

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11:12 <libv> adj__: i should push it to github

11:12 <libv> i think i already have a lima project there

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11:23 <NiteHawk> libv: you have ;) https://github.com/limadriver/lima

11:24 <libv> wow, that old already :)

11:24 <libv> NiteHawk: thanks :)

11:24 <libv> that's like right after the fosdem where i announced lima

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11:49 <ddpl> For the record, it looks like outlook.com won't accept Wiki email confirmation messages, but other email hosts do.

11:52 <libv> ddpl: cool, thanks

11:52 <libv> that kind of disappeared from my radar after breakfast

11:53 <libv> but we did have issues with our wiki and sending emails some months ago

11:53 <libv> but thanks for figuring this out

11:53 <ddpl> No problem!

12:14 <camh> Is it ok to update the H3/PIO page with info from the H3 datasheet?

12:15 <camh> I just fixed some of the PDNN pins, but am not sure about the promise at the end of the editing text

12:16 <libv> camh: yes and no. if this is like an errata, then definitely, but don't just copy paste from the datasheet for copy/pasting sake

12:16 <libv> ajeandet: mail arrived just fine with me

12:16 <camh> the wiki page was incorrect, so not just for copy/paste sake. I don't know where the original info came from

12:17 <camh> It had LCD/LVDS on some pins which I don't think the H3 has

12:17 <libv> then definitely update the wiki :)

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12:18 <camh> done

12:18 <libv> :)

12:19 <ajeandet> libv: Sory for the mistake, the mail activation doesn't seems to works with my gmail, I didn't succeed to get any mail yet.

12:20 <camh> ajeandet: check your spam folder. I just got my email there

12:20 <libv> ajeandet: no need to apologize for what is not a mistake

12:20 <libv> ajeandet: i just stated that mail arrived fine for me

12:22 <camh> device tree ethernet question: The H3 has MII, RMII and RGMII on the same pins on the same mux (mux 2)...

12:22 <ajeandet> camh: nice it was there.

12:22 <camh> should the device tree have three devices under PIO for this, or just one?

12:26 <ajeandet> Does anyone know the manufacturer of this device http://linux-sunxi.org/A70x? I'm trying to add the A70x1 in the wiki.

12:30 <libv> ajeandet: not enough info for that one

12:30 <libv> ajeandet: just add a new one, we can sort things out later :)

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12:31 <ajeandet> libv: ok I will add the maximum I have.

12:32 <libv> ajeandet: but please follow the ndh as much as possible

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13:19 <wens> camh: pio only cares which ip block it routes the signals to

13:20 <wens> camh: ethernet controller takes care of the rest

13:20 <wens> but MII/RMII/RGMII have different number of pins, the latter having less

13:20 <wens> so you would probably use the leftovers for other stuff

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14:19 <pirea> how can i enable NAND support in uboot-sunxi ?

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15:12 <ajeandet> The A70X1 wiki page isn't complete, I will continue it later, at least now it exists.

15:19 <traeak> is there basic h3 support for stuff like usb and ether?

15:20 <libv> ajeandet: nice start already

15:24 <ajeandet> I would also like to update the Fedora page(really outdated) is it ok?

15:25 <libv> ajeandet: it's a wiki, of course that is ok

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17:32 <ssvb> Net147: hi

17:34 <ssvb> Net147: sorry for shamelessly trying to dump this boot.scr handling in FEL boot mode on you ;-)

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19:56 <ssvb> Net147: ^ sorry, I have somehow confused you with NiteHawk

19:58 * ssvb does not understand who is who anymore :(

20:01 <NiteHawk> hehehe

20:02 <NiteHawk> ssvb: it's okay - i'm a bit short on time and not sure what i can do, but i'll try to have a closer look at that FEL SPL stuff

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20:08 <ssvb> NiteHawk: thanks! I'm just going to have my hands full with another non-sunxi open source project until the end of this week

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22:58 <camh> wens: thanks. that makes sense. I'll add a device for each of MII/MII/RGMII

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